Johnson should be #2

[fatty fat fat]

patton 

[ksuno1stunner]

patton 

Look at his legs 

[catdude33]

Patton switched to #9?

[FBWillie]

As long as he doesn't remind me of Meier, I'm okay with him wearing #9... 

[BRULL]

What's Brock looking at?

[Bullfn33]

Johnson is better at navigating through poor blocking and making moves while Patton has more raw speed and is a little tougher to bring down because of his more compact size.  I still think they should committee it unless one really emerges.  Patton is going to be a beast by his JR year and will be the clear starter over anyone.

[ksuno1stunner]

Johnson is better at navigating through poor blocking and making moves while Patton has more raw speed and is a little tougher to bring down because of his more compact size.  I still think they should committee it unless one really emerges.  Patton is going to be a beast by his JR year and will be the clear starter over anyone.

Except Bryce Brown.

[fatty fat fat]

Patton will be the best RB in the north.

[BBF$$Cat]

Stunner, won't it be another year off before BB would be able to join us thus putting Patton in his senior year, not competiting in the junior year with BB:confused:

[Pittcat]

Patton looks like he's been in the weight room a little more, but still more compact.  But doesn't JJ have better field vision?

[treysolid]

patton = severe opposition ankle breakage

johnson = only use within the 10 yard line going for the TD, or when patton is tired from breaking loose for 50 yard runs.

[Legore]

Johson can play and he looks much bigger and stronger.  Last year the dude had no muscle tone at all looked like he had never lifted a weight in his life.  We need to keep rotating these guys not sure Patton has the size to carry it 25 times a game he'll be better when he's in a rotation and kept fresh.  Both have the speed to take it the distance if you doubt Johnson's speed watch the replay of the kick off return he had for a TD against ku.  But I agree Patton is more explosive he's one of the more explosive players in the league he can hit full speed in a couple of steps. 

[McGrowlTowelZac]

I like using them both, they compliment each other well.  Though I like Patton as the starter, and bring JJ in second.

Regardless of who plays more, they both should have huge years if the o-line can be a force.

[Andy]

pass catching ability is a big factor, wasn't patton better here?

blocking wise i think johnson got the nod. 

either way we dont lose much no matter whose out there.

[Pittcat]

It's six of one half-a-dozen of another.  Either way, they can both contribute in their own way.  But I still think Patton hit the weight room more.  Compare the muscle tone of their legs.

[WildCatzPhreak]

Johnson is a good receiver.  I say this of course thinking only of the Texas game.

[Pittcat]

Johnson is a good receiver.  I say this of course thinking only of the Texas game.

Did anyone have a bad game against Texas?

[FBWillie]

Johnson is a good receiver.  I say this of course thinking only of the Texas game.

Did anyone have a bad game against Texas?

Meier?

[ksu_FAN]

Use Patton/Johnson like Hickson/Lawrence*.  Early with Gallon and later with Scobey/Sproles was when Snyder used primarly 1 RB, in between he used the hot hand/RB by committee approach.  No reason it can't work with these two b/c I don't think one has a clear lead on the other.

*When both were healthy. 

[michigancat]

Patton should have a clear lead, based on...performance.

[chum1]

We'll be using two backs.  It's the latest furore in the NFL.

[Pittcat]

I'd like to see Patton double his production on the ground this coming season.  (If not more than double)  I think with his obvious work ethic, and drive this could happen.  But I'd also take 1800-2000 yds b/t JJ and Patton.  

[ksu_FAN]

I can see that.  I think Patton definately finished the season stronger than Johnson.  It will be interesting to see with both having the same offseason conditioning and Johnson not coming in late.  

[Pittcat]

I know I'm being redundant, but Patton just looks like he hit the training in the offseason harder than JJ.  Of course we all know that rippling biceps doesn't necesarilly(sp?) transfer into more talent  at RB.  *cough* Clayton! *cough*

[Legore]

I know I'm being redundant, but Patton just looks like he hit the training in the offseason harder than JJ.  Of course we all know that rippling biceps doesn't necesarilly(sp?) transfer into more talent  at RB.  *cough* Clayton! *cough*

Patton is just naturally more built and more muscular then Johnson.   Patton was well built when he got here and Johnson had the upper body of a 15 year old boy when he showed up.  I don't think it's a matter of one hitting the weights harder in the off season as much as it is genetics and one having much more of a base to start out with.  Both guys put on weight and strength in the off season.  Doesn't really matter which one starts you need two good backs and I think we have them.  Plenty of carries to go around for both of them and it sounds like we are using some two back sets with both on the field at the same time. 

[cireksu]

They are both solid, obviously Patton has more upside right now because he's younger.  I think JJ does a very good job of being patient and getting positive yds.

[michigancat]

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RUSHING GP Att Gain Loss Net Avg TD Long Avg/G
Patton, Leon 12 108 640 31 609 5.6 6 44 50.8
Johnson, James 10 98 428 25 403 4.1 2 37 40.3
Based on this, I'd say Patton is about 37% more solid, but the coach only thinks he's 10% more solid.

[Pittcat]

Maybe a little offset "I" with JJ at FB.  I'd buy that.  I could see Prince put a FB/RB option in the playbook, just to see if defenses still know how to defend it.  Can you imagine JJ cutting up the field with Patton on his hip?  

[catzacker]

I doesn't matter who's at TB as long as John McCardle is leading the way at FB. 

[Pittcat]

When's the last time a major college defense saw the wishbone?