Our chances of bowling in 2007 are about 99.9%

[ksuno1stunner]

We've got three patsies and a game vs. Auburn, who will be rusty.  We've got Baylor at home, sure win.  We've got ISU on the road, sure win.  We've got CU at home, sure win.  MU at home could easily be a win.  ku at home is winnable.  At UT, OSU, and NU are far from impossible.

I don't see a game on our schedule that is a sure loss, and 6 sure wins.

If we don't go bowlin', this would be the biggest flop in the history of KSU football.  So leave yourself some vacation to go watch us play in a bowl.

[ds43fan]

i agree, excpet Auburn and Texas are 10 % winnable

[GoldbrickGangBoss]

Nuh uh.

[hemmy]

Please provide work for those calculations.

[ds43fan]

Sept. 1 at Auburn (ESPN) Auburn, Ala. .1
Sept. 8 San Jose State Manhattan, Kan. .9
Sept. 15 Missouri State Manhattan, Kan. .95
Sept. 29 at Texas Austin, Texas .1
Oct. 6 Kansas Manhattan, Kan. .75
Oct. 13 Colorado Manhattan, Kan. .9
Oct. 20 at Oklahoma State Stillwater, Okla. .65
Oct. 27 Baylor Manhattan, Kan. .85
Nov. 3 at Iowa State Ames, Iowa .6
Nov. 10 at Nebraska Lincoln, Neb. .45
Nov. 17 Missouri Manhattan, Kan. .65
Nov. 24 at Fresno State (ESPN) Fresno, Calif. .85
8.5 so an 8 or 9 win season sounds about right

[waks]

We are more likely to lose to OSU than to beat them.

[AzCat]

I see some of you have been hanging with the powertards again.  More like:

L Sept. 1 at Auburn (ESPN) Auburn, Ala.
W Sept. 8 San Jose State Manhattan, Kan.
W Sept. 15 Missouri State Manhattan, Kan.
L Sept. 29 at Texas Austin, Texas
W Oct. 6 Kansas Manhattan, Kan.
L Oct. 13 Colorado Manhattan, Kan.
L Oct. 20 at Oklahoma State Stillwater, Okla.
W Oct. 27 Baylor Manhattan, Kan.
W Nov. 3 at Iowa State Ames, Iowa
L Nov. 10 at Nebraska Lincoln, Neb.
L Nov. 17 Missouri Manhattan, Kan.
L Nov. 24 at Fresno State (ESPN) Fresno, Calif.

5-7 is probable, 6-6 if a miracle occurs.

[Pittcat]

Sept. 1 at Auburn (ESPN) Auburn, Ala. .1
Sept. 8 San Jose State Manhattan, Kan. .9
Sept. 15 Missouri State Manhattan, Kan. .95
Sept. 29 at Texas Austin, Texas .1
Oct. 6 Kansas Manhattan, Kan. .75
Oct. 13 Colorado Manhattan, Kan. .9
Oct. 20 at Oklahoma State Stillwater, Okla. .65
Oct. 27 Baylor Manhattan, Kan. .85
Nov. 3 at Iowa State Ames, Iowa .6
Nov. 10 at Nebraska Lincoln, Neb. .45
Nov. 17 Missouri Manhattan, Kan. .65
Nov. 24 at Fresno State (ESPN) Fresno, Calif. .85
8.5 so an 8 or 9 win season sounds about right

Wow, My stats prof. would be proud.   

[Pittcat]

I see some of you have been hanging with the powertards again.  More like:

L Sept. 1 at Auburn (ESPN) Auburn, Ala.
W Sept. 8 San Jose State Manhattan, Kan.
W Sept. 15 Missouri State Manhattan, Kan.
L Sept. 29 at Texas Austin, Texas
W Oct. 6 Kansas Manhattan, Kan.
L Oct. 13 Colorado Manhattan, Kan.
L Oct. 20 at Oklahoma State Stillwater, Okla.
W Oct. 27 Baylor Manhattan, Kan.
W Nov. 3 at Iowa State Ames, Iowa
L Nov. 10 at Nebraska Lincoln, Neb.
L Nov. 17 Missouri Manhattan, Kan.
L Nov. 24 at Fresno State (ESPN) Fresno, Calif.

5-7 is probable, 6-6 if a miracle occurs.

Wow, you have absolutely no faith. 

[Pittcat]

Just realized I like the word "wow."   

[Houstoncat93]

If we don't go bowlin', this would be the biggest flop in the history of KSU football.  So leave yourself some vacation to go watch us play in a bowl.

That is quite a statement considering our past....

[AzCat]

I see some of you have been hanging with the powertards again.  More like:

L Sept. 1 at Auburn (ESPN) Auburn, Ala.
W Sept. 8 San Jose State Manhattan, Kan.
W Sept. 15 Missouri State Manhattan, Kan.
L Sept. 29 at Texas Austin, Texas
W Oct. 6 Kansas Manhattan, Kan.
L Oct. 13 Colorado Manhattan, Kan.
L Oct. 20 at Oklahoma State Stillwater, Okla.
W Oct. 27 Baylor Manhattan, Kan.
W Nov. 3 at Iowa State Ames, Iowa
L Nov. 10 at Nebraska Lincoln, Neb.
L Nov. 17 Missouri Manhattan, Kan.
L Nov. 24 at Fresno State (ESPN) Fresno, Calif.

5-7 is probable, 6-6 if a miracle occurs.

Wow, you have absolutely no faith. 

I have a great deal of faith ... that we'll win 5 games (+/- 1) next season.

[Dirty Sanchez]

If we don't go bowlin', this would be the biggest flop in the history of KSU football.  So leave yourself some vacation to go watch us play in a bowl.

That is quite a statement considering our past....

Not really.  The first 100 years weren't a flop.  I think you have to be up at some point to flop.

[Pittcat]

I see some of you have been hanging with the powertards again.  More like:

L Sept. 1 at Auburn (ESPN) Auburn, Ala.
W Sept. 8 San Jose State Manhattan, Kan.
W Sept. 15 Missouri State Manhattan, Kan.
L Sept. 29 at Texas Austin, Texas
W Oct. 6 Kansas Manhattan, Kan.
L Oct. 13 Colorado Manhattan, Kan.
L Oct. 20 at Oklahoma State Stillwater, Okla.
W Oct. 27 Baylor Manhattan, Kan.
W Nov. 3 at Iowa State Ames, Iowa
L Nov. 10 at Nebraska Lincoln, Neb.
L Nov. 17 Missouri Manhattan, Kan.
L Nov. 24 at Fresno State (ESPN) Fresno, Calif.

5-7 is probable, 6-6 if a miracle occurs.

Wow, you have absolutely no faith. 

I have a great deal of faith ... that we'll win 5 games (+/- 1) next season.

Doom and gloom, doom and gloom.   

[Houstoncat93]

If we don't go bowlin', this would be the biggest flop in the history of KSU football.  So leave yourself some vacation to go watch us play in a bowl.

That is quite a statement considering our past....

Not really.  The first 100 years weren't a flop.  I think you have to be up at some point to flop.

                   PF    PA
1905  6-2-0  149   52    Mike Ahearn
1906  5-2-0  103   37    Mike Ahearn
1907  5-3-0  135   56    Mike Ahearn
1908  6-2-0  182   74    Mike Ahearn
1909  7-2-0  320   11    Mike Ahearn
1910  10-1-0 336   23    Mike Ahearn

We had a nice little run during the "ought" years with Coach Ahearn......after that it was all flop.

[Houstoncat93]

I see some of you have been hanging with the powertards again.  More like:

L Sept. 1 at Auburn (ESPN) Auburn, Ala.
W Sept. 8 San Jose State Manhattan, Kan.
W Sept. 15 Missouri State Manhattan, Kan.
L Sept. 29 at Texas Austin, Texas
W Oct. 6 Kansas Manhattan, Kan.
L Oct. 13 Colorado Manhattan, Kan.
L Oct. 20 at Oklahoma State Stillwater, Okla.
W Oct. 27 Baylor Manhattan, Kan.
W Nov. 3 at Iowa State Ames, Iowa
L Nov. 10 at Nebraska Lincoln, Neb.
L Nov. 17 Missouri Manhattan, Kan.
L Nov. 24 at Fresno State (ESPN) Fresno, Calif.

5-7 is probable, 6-6 if a miracle occurs.

Wow, you have absolutely no faith. 

I have a great deal of faith ... that we'll win 5 games (+/- 1) next season.

Doom and gloom, doom and gloom.   

You are right...Az is way too pessimistic.  My more optimistic view is we win at least 6 games....maybe 7 if we find a shock the world type game ala Texas last year.

[Huskerfan]

Your games with Nebraska, Texas, and Auburn are almost certain losses, you're playing better teams on the road.

Oklahoma State and Fresno State are probable losses, especially since they're on the road.
Missouri is a probable loss, they're just a better team.
Kansas and Iowa State are tossups.

So three certain losses, three more probable ones, and two tossups. Assuming you loss the games you should, and win one of the tossups, that puts you at 5-7. I actually think Freeman's talent might help you to win a game or two you shouldn't, so you might up doing as well at 7-5. That would make you bowl eligible.

The good news is that while you have some tough road games this year, assuming those are home and away series, you'll at least have those opponents in Manhattan for the '08 season.

[Pittcat]

Maybe I'm a little too optimistic, but I think 8-4 or 9-3 is do-able.  Oh the power of talented QB & RB's + the will of a bunch of potentially underrated players out to prove people wrong = good season.  Not great, but good.  I've said it before:  We've done more with less in the past.


  Oh no, we don't have a team full of 5 stars!!! Our season is ruined!

[Pittcat]

So, assuming we lose to Auburn and Fresno State, should we revert back to the Snyder ways and schedule four gimme's.  I don't think so-A tough loss in a well played game against a high caliber team with national exposure, ie Auburn, is still better than an "oops" loss to Massachusetts School for the Blind.  Still, 8-4 or 9-3 is possible.

[WildCatzPhreak]

We lose: (25%)Nebraska, (10%)Texas, (10%)Auburn
We win: (75%)Baylor, (90%)Missouri State, (75%)Colorado, (70%)Iowa State, (95%)San Jose State, (70%)Fresno State
Toss ups: (55%)Missouri, (60%)Kansas, (40%) Oklahoma State

I'm thinking 7 wins average, 6 wins minimum, 8 wins max.  Anything above 8, tear up Prince's contract and give him a better one.

[WildCatzPhreak]

I don't get the "assuming we lose to Fresno" talk.

They beat us in 2004, when we won four games total and had a horrible team.

Fresno was bad last year.  No bowl game, and in a pathetic conference.  I don't see why that's pinned as a loss, even on the road.

[Pittcat]

I don't get the "assuming we lose to Fresno" talk.

They beat us in 2004, when we won four games total and had a horrible team.

Fresno was bad last year.  No bowl game, and in a pathetic conference.  I don't see why that's pinned as a loss, even on the road.

That was completely hypothetical, mainly directed at bandwagon NU/Creighton and various local doom and gloomers.  I think we'll beat Fresno State.  I think we'll do better than alot of people on here think we will.

[Dan Rydell]

Sept. 1 at Auburn (ESPN) Auburn, Ala. .1               Yeah, right.
Sept. 8 San Jose State Manhattan, Kan. .9            They're no Illinois State.
Sept. 15 Missouri State Manhattan, Kan. .95          Woot.
Sept. 29 at Texas Austin, Texas .1                       Hahahahahahahahaha!
Oct. 6 Kansas Manhattan, Kan. .6                         .1 for home field.  They'd be favored in Lawrence.
Oct. 13 Colorado Manhattan, Kan. .75                    I don't think Hawk turns it around quickly enough to win.
Oct. 20 at Oklahoma State Stillwater, Okla. .25       Gundys have that ship headed in the right direction.
Oct. 27 Baylor Manhattan, Kan. .85                       Ugh.
Nov. 3 at Iowa State Ames, Iowa .6                   
Nov. 10 at Nebraska Lincoln, Neb. .2                      Double the chance of winning at Auburn or Texas.  Ain't sayin' much.
Nov. 17 Missouri Manhattan, Kan. .5                      Late season slide time for Mizzou.  Hope it helps us.
Nov. 24 at Fresno State (ESPN) Fresno, Calif. .55    Yeah, going on the road to Fresno is TOTALLY easy!

Looks like about 6 wins.  Eyeballing it, that looks about right.

[waks]

Sept. 1 at Auburn (ESPN) Auburn, Ala. L
Sept. 8 San Jose State Manhattan, Kan. W
Sept. 15 Missouri State Manhattan, Kan. W
Sept. 29 at Texas Austin, Texas L
Oct. 6 Kansas Manhattan, Kan. W
Oct. 13 Colorado Manhattan, Kan. W
Oct. 20 at Oklahoma State Stillwater, Okla. L
Oct. 27 Baylor Manhattan, Kan. W
Nov. 3 at Iowa State Ames, Iowa W
Nov. 10 at Nebraska Lincoln, Neb. L
Nov. 17 Missouri Manhattan, Kan. L
Nov. 24 at Fresno State (ESPN) Fresno, Calif. W

I can see us beating Mizzou or OSU and I can see us losing to anyone other than the two patsies. 7 or 8 wins sounds about right..

[Pittcat]

Mark it on the calendar, this is the way it will be:


 Sept. 1 at Auburn (ESPN) Auburn, Ala.  Freeman has poor game, Campbell still adjusting to 3-4 L28-14
 Sept. 8 San Jose State Manhattan, Kan. Confidence booster for Soul Glo  W42-3
 Sept. 15 Missouri State Manhattan, Kan. Defense finds itself W45-0
 Sept. 29 at Texas Austin, Texas   Texas out for blood, KSU rallies in 2nd half but falls short L28-24
 Oct. 6 Kansas Manhattan, Kan.  Mangino dies on sidelines by choking on bologna sandwich, Patton burns birdies for 175 on ground.  W 31-13
 Oct. 13 Colorado Manhattan, Kan.  Freeman continues solid season, Buffs limp home W35-10
 Oct. 20 at Oklahoma State Stillwater, Okla.  Not a comeback this time, but close game W17-14
 Oct. 27 Baylor Manhattan, Kan.  Baylor's moving up but the team vet's want some redemption  W24-7
 Nov. 3 at Iowa State Ames, Iowa  The cats are on a roll but almost look past ISU, W17-14
 Nov. 10 at Nebraska Lincoln, Neb. Lucky back in hospital for no reason, defensive stops highlight of game for both sides L10-7
 Nov. 17 Missouri Manhattan, Kan.  All out battle, children avert your eyes, Cats pull ahead for good late in 4th W31-24
 Nov. 24 at Fresno State (ESPN) Fresno, Calif.  Cats role 'dogs with stellar all-around performance.  
W35-10

That's 9-3, Okie State and Missouri are swing games, but we will win atleast one of those two which would make it 8-4.  
Ladies and Gentleman THAT is our 2007 season.

[Snyderfanatic]

At Auburn- 21 point loss in much the same fashion as the road losses in 2006, teams that do not have the desire or ability to play smashmouth football are not great road teams. 0-1

San Jose State- A very good team in 2006, not sure what they got this season. Dick Tomey will not be outcoached by Prince. KSU wins 27-20, 1-1

Missouri State- The Bears are a bad 1-AA team, easy win 51-3, 2-1

@ Texas- Payback for the Horns, could be a very ugly 2:30 game in Austin, Texas 47-13, 2-2 (o-1)

Kansas- Must win game to preserve a slight advantage over ku, probably the biggest game to date for Prince. a loss and he is on the hotseat, a win and he is o.k. KSU 20-10, 3-2 (1-1)

Colorado- The hunch is the Buffs will be the most improved team in the North. KSU lost a heartbreaker in 2005 to the Buffs, not gonna happen this time, Cats 31-20, 4-2 (2-1)

@ Oklahoma State- We were fortunate to win in Manhattan in 2006, this game will not be as bad as the Texas game, but yet another road loss in the South, OSU 34-17, 4-3 (2-2)

Baylor- Simply put, Baylor whipped KSU bad in Waco. Will not happen two years in a row, an easy 37- 10 win at Bill Snyder family Stadium for KSU. 5-3 (3-2)

@ Iowa State- The Clones have a good QB and WR, but always seem to be challenged on the defensive side. ISU can be a spoiler late in the season in Ames (MU last year, NU in 2002, KSU in 2005), not this time KSU 21-20, 6-3 (4-2)

@ Nebraska- This may be ugly, NU will be good, ready for Freeman and playing on Senior Day. NU rolls the Cats 40-13, Prince not feeling any love in his return to Nebraska. 6-4 (4-3)

Missouri- Last season the Tigers snapped a 13 game streak to KSU with total domination in Columbia. Mizzou has too many weapons for the Cats to pull off another home rally (Remember 2005), Tigers 38-27, 6-5 (4-4)   

@ Fresno State- The last time KSU visited the west coast in a regular season finale? 42-3 in Vegas. The Bulldogs slipped big time in 2006 and will not be bad two straight seasons. This will be a rugged environment against a really hard hitting and overly aggressive team. KSU loses 31-20, 6-6

Prediction: People will accept the .500 season if Freeman is improved and the Cats sneak into a minor bowl.

[Pittcat]

No one expected us to do anything last season.  Well guess what: More talent, more experience, more motivation = better season. 

[Dan Rydell]

No one expected us to do anything last season.  Well guess what: More talent, more experience, more motivation = better season. 

No one expected Colt McCoy to get injured in the first quarter of the KSU game, either.  It's amazing how one injury can drastically change the expectations for a team. 

[cireksu]

we have 5 automatic losses on the sched.  @NU, @UA, @UT, Mizzou, and @OSU.  winning any of those games would be astronomically hard to do next year.

[fatty fat fat]

No one expected us to do anything last season.  Well guess what: More talent, more experience, more motivation = better season. 

No one expected Colt McCoy to get injured in the first quarter of the KSU game, either.  It's amazing how one injury can drastically change the expectations for a team. 

Any team can play that game. We beat Texas fair n square.