will pogue to pitt help our chances with oj?

[PoetWarrior]

Now we're talkin'.

[ksuno1stunner]

LOL. Nothing like using imaginary polls and statistics to back your argument. Since you want to talk about national perception let's talk about Huggy's reputation. Outside of Cincy and Manhattan Huggins has a reputation of a scumbag. Is it 100% deserved? No but that's the perception. If you ask every AD and university president who they would rather have coaching their bball program 100% would say Turg and most would say "That's a retarded f-ing question! I wouldn't touch Huggins with your dick!"

Yes...me and every A.D. and university president are right.

nice way to change the subject.  i really don't care about reputation.  no top 10 recruit is saying "I want to play for Turgeon"

btw, here's some REAL facts for you


Huggins, 52, has compiled a 399-127 record (.759) in his 16 years at Cincinnati, making him the winningest coach in terms of victories and percentage in the school's rich basketball history. Huggins has directed Cincinnati to 10 conference regular season titles and eight league tournament titles. The Bearcats have been to postseason play in each of Huggins' 16 seasons at UC, advancing to the Elite Eight of the NCAA tournament two times and in 1991-92, appearing once in the Final Four.


Huggins earned the Ray Meyer Award as the Conference USA Coach of the Year a record three times (1997-98, 1998-99 and 1999-00), and was a unanimous choice for C-USA Coach of the Decade. He was selected national coach of the year by ESPN.com in 2001-02. He was named co-national coach of the year by The Sporting News last season and was Basketball Times' national coach of the year in 1997-98. He earned national coach of the year recognition from Hoop Scoop in 1991-92 and Playboy in 1992-93. During this time the program also gained a reputation for a rough style of play and academic underperformance as well as numerous criminal convictions and arrests for many of his players, thus comparing Huggins to Jerry Tarkanian's successful, yet controversial, UNLV programs. Huggins's program was put on NCAA probation for lack of institutional control in 1998 . Huggins was suspended indefinitely following a drunken-driving charge before resigning in 2005.

Huggins is a proven success as a program-builder, recruiter, game strategist and inspirational leader, and he is believed by fans to have demonstrated this in of varying situations during his tenure at Cincinnati. He has also directed star-studded teams, while developing the individual talents of players such as consensus All-Americans Danny Fortson, Kenyon Martin and Steve Logan, to a succession of conference championships and NCAA tournament runs. Huggins has achieved similar success on the recruiting trails. He has attracted three No. 1-rated junior college players and five McDonald's All-Americans, while six of his last nine recruiting classes have been ranked among the nation's top ten. Inheriting a team short on numbers upon his arrival at Cincinnati, Huggins coached that 1989-90 squad to a postseason tournament berth. Two seasons later, he assimilated the talents of four junior college transfers and a smattering of seasoned veterans into a cohesive unit which he directed to successive finishes in the Final Four and Elite Eight.

Over the ensuing seasons, he developed young and inexperienced teams with as many as three freshmen starters into squads which captured two more league titles and made another pair of NCAA appearances. Huggins surprised some astute college basketball followers in 1997-98 by directing a team which had only one returning starter to a 27-6 record, conference regular season and tournament titles, a No. 2 seed in the NCAA tournament and a Top 10 finish in the polls. Huggins' 2001-02 team, unranked when the season began, posted a 31-4 record, setting a UC mark for victories, made a clean sweep of the Conference USA regular season and tournament titles and was a No. 1 seed in the NCAA tournament. In 2002-03, Huggins suffered a major heart attack on the last Saturday of September but was present for the team's first practice two weeks later and coached the Bearcats with the same intensity that has become his trademark.

The 2003-04 season was business as usual for Huggins, who piloted UC to C-USA regular season and tournament titles and an NCAA tourney berth while amassing a 25-7 record. The 2004-05 Bearcats posted a 25-8 ledger, the ninth season in the past ten years that UC has won 25 or more games.

Turgeon was hired for his first head coaching job at Jacksonville State in Alabama, but in 2000, he jumped back to his home state, taking over as the head coach of Wichita State.

In the 2006 NCAA Tournament, Turgeon guided his 7th seeded Shocker team to the Sweet 16 after an upset of 2nd seeded Tennessee.

check out wikipedia btw

congrats on that one run.

 

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i wish we'd play WSU every game we may lose like once

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Re: will pogue to pitt help our chances with oj?
« Reply #37 on: August 24, 2006, 10:17:37 am »
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It is hilarious isn't it! A school that hasn't gone to the NCAAs since you were born talking smack on a team that just went to the sweet sixteen!  Freaking hilarious!


You make it sound like WSU has become an established power house or something. They had a very good year,especally with their level of talent. Are they heads and tails above KSU? I don't believe they are.In my opinion WSU played to 110% of their potential. Will they be improved next year? Hard to say. If you weigh improved prospects KSUs  is greater than WSUs. Will KSU be a sweet 16 team next year. Most likely not. Will they make the NCAA tourney? More likely than not they will. Will WSU make the tourney? Probably. Sweet 16 return? Depends on who they draw? Shocker dude not sure your cockyness or superiority is warranted given WSUs program leading up to last year.

[ksuno1stunner]

Now that I've given you guys a little bit of background information about these two, I'll tell you what the workout was like. The intensity of the workout was unparalleled. Walker and Mayo went for approximately an hour and a half non-stop and at full speed through a series of NBA drills. These drills included reading screens, full court dribbling drills leading right into jump shots, mid range jump shots, and attacking the basket. Just about the only knock on Bill Walker coming into this year was that he wasn't quite the strongest ball handlerboy, has that changed. Bill was extremely fluid going up and down the floor at full speed in the ball handling drills. He was able to change directions and speeds very easily while keeping his head up and the ball low and tight. Bill began to shoot NBA three pointers off of these drills with absolute ease. At one time, we counted that Bill made 7 straight NBA three pointers in a row after dribbling full speed up the floor with a defender on him. Walker then showed off his midrange game, in which he has an absolutely astonishing lift on his shot, making it impossible for any defender to block. Walker then started attacking the basket, where he used his giant strides to get to the basket in the blink of an eye. He finished every one of his takes to the rim with an explosive dunk, where he was at least a foot above the rim on each and every one of them.

O.J. was going through the workout even though he had sprained his ankle in the high school state championship just two days earlier, showing his great toughness. In the full court ball handling drills that lead to NBA three pointers, O.J. handled the ball as if it was on a string and showed unlimited range. At one point, we counted him hitting 9 straight three pointers from NBA range (following which he missed one and then proceeded to hit 5 more in a row). Mayo did not have the usual (great) lift on his shot due to the ankle injury, but his mechanics were very impressive. Like Walker, O.J. showed a great midrange jumper with very quick release and good form. When it came to exploding to the basket, he was a bit limited because of the bum ankle, but he was still easily dunking the ball in all of the drills. We would see in a few minutes that even with a bad ankle, Mayo could still leap higher then the majority of college players.

At the conclusion of their workout, O.J. and Bill decided to have an impromptu dunk contest. Bill started off getting loose by easily touching the top of the square on the backboard. He then started off by throwing the ball off of the backboard and doing a reverse windmill dunk. This dunk would have easily gotten a perfect score in the NBA dunk contest. He then continued with a flurry of windmill, 360, and between the legs dunks that would have definitely given Josh Smith a run for his money. As for O.J., even though he was suffering from an ankle injury, he was still able to throw the ball off of the shot clock and dunk it (a la Gerald Green in the 2005 McDonald's dunk contest). He followed that with a flurry of windmill dunks and dunked 2 balls at the same time, reminiscent of the dunk Amir Johnson did in the McDonald's dunk contest.

While I had seen these two play before in person a few times and was fully aware of their talents, I had never seen anything like this in my life. These two looked like pro prospects, and they were only sophomores in high school. Both I and Prerak Shah (the other staff member in attendance) agreed that Mayo and Walker were more impressive than ANY of the players playing in the Roundball Classic. Only Gerald Green even came close. This should tell you how immensely talented these two sophomores are. Whether they are able to come out in the 2007 NBA draft right out of high school, or if they have to go to college for two years, you will hear the names of O.J. Mayo and Bill Walker very, very early on draft night.

can't play in the nba as sophmores?