It's Del Miller!

[Ameroogie]

I value that kind of flexibility in the establishments that I frequent women I date.

fyp

[Panjandrum]

Wait, guys.  Let's at least let Bill complete his staff before we judge the hire.

 

I'm beginning to wonder if some of these guys came back to work because their 401k shrivled up after the economy went in the tank.

Maybe Snyder came back because he had most of his retirement stashed away in Starbucks and Home Depot stock?

[Panjandrum]

I value that kind of flexibility in the establishments that I frequent women I date.

fyp

QFT.  I married a former ballerina FWIW.

Much hotter than I deserve.

[JTKSU]

I value that kind of flexibility in the establishments that I frequent women I date.

fyp

QFT.  I married a former ballerina man. FWIW.

Much hotter than I deserve.

[Ameroogie]

Former Ballerina?  Did she get fat or something?

[Panjandrum]

I value that kind of flexibility in the establishments that I frequent women I date.

fyp

QFT.  I married a former ballerina man. FWIW.

Much hotter than I deserve.

Well played.

[Chingon]

The lack of respect for Del Miller in this thread is sickening.

It seems like some of you need some re-education information from our glorious leader.

[mcmwcat]

The lack of respect for Del Miller in this thread is sickening.

It seems like some of you need some re-education information from our glorious leader.

we are w/o a doubt blessed to have such greatness returning to our humble community.

[Arthur Carlson]

Awesome.  So, Del Miller, who is now 3+ years older & lazier from the time where he couldn't be bothered to watch film of an Elite 11 QB in his own backyard, is part of the answer.  Sweet.

Here's something I never thought I'd type...would rather have Michael Smith.

 

[pissclams]

for those of you who would like to understand this hire from a different perspective:
google image search "del miller"
go to the 13th page of search results
go to the 4th column of images
go to the 3rd image down in that column.  examine that picture.

next, google image search "VENTRILUCUO DEL CHAT"
go to the first image found

now tell me that didn't just a) blow your mind and b) shed a little more light on the hiring

[elkwc]

If true just proves what I feared and said when Snyder was rehired. He has way too much loyalty to those who failed him in the past. Del was willing to come here because he was umemployed and he isn't on the wish list of many programs. But he could depend on Coach Snyder to put him on the welfare system again. A very disappointing hire. And Coach Snyder said he wanted to calm the waters. All he wanted to do was create jobs for a few unemployed ex assistants.

[fatty fat fat]

at least we will have the retarded perception of being a "well-coached" team. 

[KCcat28]

If true just proves what I feared and said when Snyder was rehired. He has way too much loyalty to those who failed him in the past. Del was willing to come here because he was umemployed and he isn't on the wish list of many programs. But he could depend on Coach Snyder to put him on the welfare system again. A very disappointing hire. And Coach Snyder said he wanted to calm the waters. All he wanted to do was create jobs for a few unemployed ex assistants.

 

[GoldbrickGangBoss]

Failed hire followed by many other failed hires.

History, its happening again.

[Pete]

If true just proves what I feared and said when Snyder was rehired. He has way too much loyalty to those who failed him in the past. Del was willing to come here because he was umemployed and he isn't on the wish list of many programs. But he could depend on Coach Snyder to put him on the welfare system again. A very disappointing hire. And Coach Snyder said he wanted to calm the waters. All he wanted to do was create jobs for a few unemployed ex assistants.

 

Actually, I agree with most of that statement.  However, I do not doubt that Snyder WANTS to "calm the waters," but it appears to me that he is trying to do so with the same formula that produced 2004 and 2005.  I fully expect similar results going forward.

[mikeycat]

for those of you who would like to understand this hire from a different perspective:
google image search "del miller"
go to the 13th page of search results
go to the 4th column of images
go to the 3rd image down in that column.  examine that picture.

next, google image search "VENTRILUCUO DEL CHAT"
go to the first image found

now tell me that didn't just a) blow your mind and b) shed a little more light on the hiring

LOL!


Did you actually do this, or just make this crap up?

[leawoodcat]

Failed hire followed by many other failed hires.

History, its happening again.

Great. I would accept another 2 bad years along with another DOD!

[Panjandrum]

If true just proves what I feared and said when Snyder was rehired. He has way too much loyalty to those who failed him in the past. Del was willing to come here because he was umemployed and he isn't on the wish list of many programs. But he could depend on Coach Snyder to put him on the welfare system again. A very disappointing hire. And Coach Snyder said he wanted to calm the waters. All he wanted to do was create jobs for a few unemployed ex assistants.

 

Actually, I agree with most of that statement.  However, I do not doubt that Snyder WANTS to "calm the waters," but it appears to me that he is trying to do so with the same formula that produced 2004 and 2005.  I fully expect similar results going forward.

+1.  However, I think with the 12th game, Snyder will consistently find a way to schedule us to a bowl game nearly every year.

People should have gotten extremely nervous when Snyder threw two titles at Chris Cosh, who is nothing more than a glorified linebackers coach.  We gave a Co-DC and Assistant HC title to a guy who was going to get fired, this year or the next, for having an underperforming defense in the ACC.  Why?

Now, he's 'supposedly' hired Del Miller.  When Snyder was hired, we were all told that he was going to attract some of the brightest up-and-coming coaches to set this thing straight.  So far, he's hired one very in-demand coordinator (Koenning), one coordinator that was embattled at his last two stops (Ludwig), and the rest are guys he coached with in '04-'05, or are holdovers from the Prince staff.  I don't know how you spin that into a positive.  Even if you like Brock and Rodgers (which I do), I would have 'liked' to see Snyder haul in an upgrade.  But, hey, what do I know?

When the ace recruiters on your staff are going to be Joe Bob Clements and Dave Brock, you're asking for it.  Just my opinion.

[Ameroogie]

Billy Gonzales.  Discuss amongst yourselves.

[ew2x4]

Billy Gonzales.  Discuss amongst yourselves.

Is this supposed to be an original thought? Like we haven't heard his name being mentioned?

[Ameroogie]

Not at all.  Just figured that we've wasted two days on a Del Miller rumor and might as well hi-jack this thread as opposed to starting a new one about Gonzales.

[Weird Roberts foam finger]

I will add fuel to the fire and add that it's very interesting Urban passed on Gonzo for his OC replacement.  Either we're dealing with a short bus kind of guy, or Urban just plain doesn't like him. 

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/football/ncaa/12/27/Florida.Addazio.ap/index.html

Either way, he's as good as ours!   

[elkwc]

If true just proves what I feared and said when Snyder was rehired. He has way too much loyalty to those who failed him in the past. Del was willing to come here because he was umemployed and he isn't on the wish list of many programs. But he could depend on Coach Snyder to put him on the welfare system again. A very disappointing hire. And Coach Snyder said he wanted to calm the waters. All he wanted to do was create jobs for a few unemployed ex assistants.

 

How original. Hope you aren't a KSU grad. Would hate to think that is all you learned while at the best university in KS.

[ew2x4]

I will add fuel to the fire and add that it's very interesting Urban passed on Gonzo for his OC replacement.  Either we're dealing with a short bus kind of guy, or Urban just plain doesn't like him. 

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/football/ncaa/12/27/Florida.Addazio.ap/index.html

Either way, he's as good as ours!   

He's being rumored to be OC at UTen.

The reason Del Miller is being discussed is there are alot of people saying this is a done deal. While this isn't solid, it's a hell of a lot closer to happening than someone mentioning a name and wishing it to be discussed.

[Bill Effing Snyder]

I don't have as much anxiety about this staff possibly not being able to recruit majorly well considering I have faith they can coach kids up.  The last staff could do neither.

[steve dave]

I have faith they can coach kids up

[catzacker]

I have faith they can coach kids up

dood, all Houlik needs is better coaching. 

[~WabashRoll~]

Because the best teams of the DOD never had any talent.

See the difference between Michael Bishop and Dlyan Meier.  Lack of coaching up.

[Panjandrum]

I don't have as much anxiety about this staff possibly not being able to recruit majorly well considering I have faith they can coach kids up.  The last staff could do neither.

I second the comments of people questioning the "coaching up" comment.

The problem isn't "coaching up" talent.  The problem is getting it here in the first place.

The frightening thing is that, presumably, six of the nine assistant coaches were here between 2004-present, when we couldn't coach up talent, and/or what talent we did bring in, was mostly overrated by the recruiting services (i.e. - Neither Webb or Evridge were three star talent, Calvin and Pomele as four stars...eh, no.).

Good recruiters find good players and bring them in.  The common thread between Snyder's last staff and Prince's staff(s) were that they had problems with both of these things.  They either incorrectly identified Big 12 calibur talent (Any QB on Snyder's last staff, Houlik, Coffman, Sekona, Pierson, etc.), or they whiffed on good players vs. other schools (Reesing, Temple, Brown brothers, Chris Harper, etc.).

We can always fall back on the feel good fable that is "Hoosiers", but the fact of the matter is that all of the DOD teams were loaded with NFL talent, and you don't get to the NFL because you're "coached up".  You go to the NFL because you have the size, speed, and athletcism to compete at that level.

At one point in time, we recruited those types of players.  I don't see how the same group of coaches, and a select few others who don't really do much recruiting themselves, can rectify the main problem that we had before Snyder retired.

[cireksu]

I don't have as much anxiety about this staff possibly not being able to recruit majorly well considering I have faith they can coach kids up.  The last staff could do neither.

I second the comments of people questioning the "coaching up" comment.

The problem isn't "coaching up" talent.  The problem is getting it here in the first place.

The frightening thing is that, presumably, six of the nine assistant coaches were here between 2004-present, when we couldn't coach up talent, and/or what talent we did bring in, was mostly overrated by the recruiting services (i.e. - Neither Webb or Evridge were three star talent, Calvin and Pomele as four stars...eh, no.).

Good recruiters find good players and bring them in.  The common thread between Snyder's last staff and Prince's staff(s) were that they had problems with both of these things.  They either incorrectly identified Big 12 calibur talent (Any QB on Snyder's last staff, Houlik, Coffman, Sekona, Pierson, etc.), or they whiffed on good players vs. other schools (Reesing, Temple, Brown brothers, Chris Harper, etc.).

We can always fall back on the feel good fable that is "Hoosiers", but the fact of the matter is that all of the DOD teams were loaded with NFL talent, and you don't get to the NFL because you're "coached up".  You go to the NFL because you have the size, speed, and athletcism to compete at that level.

At one point in time, we recruited those types of players.  I don't see how the same group of coaches, and a select few others who don't really do much recruiting themselves, can rectify the main problem that we had before Snyder retired.