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Title: Future schedule summary
Post by: michigancat on February 13, 2007, 09:34:19 AM
2007:

Auburn
@ Fresno


2008:

@ Louisville
Fresno


2009:

@UCLA


2010:

UCLA


2011:

@Miami
Oregon


2012:

Miami
@Oregon

2014:

@VaTech
Auburn


2016:

VaTech

:eek:
Title: Re: Future schedule summary
Post by: fatty fat fat on February 13, 2007, 09:37:06 AM
I love the ESPN (twice)
Title: Re: Future schedule summary
Post by: michigancat on February 13, 2007, 09:39:55 AM
I love the ESPN (twice)

People don't realize how valuable that really is.
Title: Re: Future schedule summary
Post by: michigancat on February 13, 2007, 10:00:01 AM
I'm surprised more people don't have comments on this.
Title: Re: Future schedule summary
Post by: ChiefCatchacold on February 13, 2007, 10:08:56 AM
I'm surprised more people don't have comments on this.

Predictably bold, daring.  But I like it.
Title: Re: Future schedule summary
Post by: chum1 on February 13, 2007, 10:19:43 AM
Our MOL is going to skyrocket.
Title: Re: Future schedule summary
Post by: coitus on February 13, 2007, 10:23:17 AM
it locks up my season ticket commitment.

as if there was a doubt, but seeing those teams in manhattan is going to be a blast.  now recruit and coach those boys to be able to win the games.
Title: Re: Future schedule summary
Post by: catzacker on February 13, 2007, 10:25:51 AM
I'd be more excited about facing good teams if we were a good team.  But by 2014, who knows,   maybe Zorcon, ruler of the new world, will have outlawed football and the discussion will be moot.  
Title: Re: Future schedule summary
Post by: michigancat on February 13, 2007, 10:27:39 AM
I don't get the "only play good teams if we're good" mentality.

Why not just make the move to C-USA until we're good enough to play UT, OU, etc.?
Title: Re: Future schedule summary
Post by: coitus on February 13, 2007, 10:28:38 AM
it looks like the objective is two tough non-cons each year, one home and one away.  i presume that means more announcements coming.

a series with virginia would be sweet.
Title: Re: Future schedule summary
Post by: michigancat on February 13, 2007, 10:32:37 AM
it looks like the objective is two tough non-cons each year, one home and one away.  i presume that means more announcements coming.

a series with virginia would be sweet.

I'd look for a 2009-10 series announcement.
Title: Re: Future schedule summary
Post by: WILDCAT NATION on February 13, 2007, 10:41:28 AM
needless to say, I love it.
Title: Re: Future schedule summary
Post by: catzacker on February 13, 2007, 11:02:09 AM
I don't get the "only play good teams if we're good" mentality.

Why not just make the move to C-USA until we're good enough to play UT, OU, etc.?

That's not what I'm saying.  What I'm saying is that I'd be more excited if I felt that, right now, we had any shot at winning those games in the near future.  I'm excited that we have convinced multiple quality teams to come to manhattan (whether it's because those teams believe they have a better shot at winning or because we didn't take some of the same stances as BS did).  That makes the home games more fun.  I'd personally rather have one top 15 team a year (home or away) and then play 3 patsies at home in the OOC.
Title: Re: Future schedule summary
Post by: Joker on February 13, 2007, 11:03:19 AM
Quote
"Games like the one we will play at Auburn not only provide our program with the type of national exposure that we believe is beneficial for our organization, but also allow us to accurately measure just where we are in relation to the top programs in college football in terms of speed, strength, skill level and toughness,"


Interesting.

I don't need to get into the ring with Wladimir Klitschko to know that I would get my ass beat.
Title: Re: Future schedule summary
Post by: ksuno1stunner on February 13, 2007, 11:11:29 AM
It will help our recruiting a little, although I don't know how much it could help when we get destroyed by Auburn.
Title: Re: Future schedule summary
Post by: fatty fat fat on February 13, 2007, 11:13:45 AM
I'd be more excited about facing good teams if we were a good team.  But by 2014, who knows,   maybe Zorcon, ruler of the new world, will have outlawed football and the discussion will be moot. 

7 years isn't much. 2000 seems like yesterday.
Title: Re: Future schedule summary
Post by: michigancat on February 13, 2007, 11:16:58 AM
I don't get the "only play good teams if we're good" mentality.

Why not just make the move to C-USA until we're good enough to play UT, OU, etc.?

That's not what I'm saying.  What I'm saying is that I'd be more excited if I felt that, right now, we had any shot at winning those games in the near future.  I'm excited that we have convinced multiple quality teams to come to manhattan (whether it's because those teams believe they have a better shot at winning or because we didn't take some of the same stances as BS did).  That makes the home games more fun.  I'd personally rather have one top 15 team a year (home or away) and then play 3 patsies at home in the OOC.

Why don't you feel like we have a shot against any of those teams?

Miami just fired their coach after a 6-6 season and hired from within.

Oregon's last five seasons have been 7-6, 10-2, 5-6, 8-5, 7-6.  WTF?  We can't compete with that?

UCLA has gone 7-6, 10-2, 6-6, and 6-7 over the last 4 years.  Again, we have no chance against these guys?

Beamer will be on his deathbed by the time we play them.

UL will have an inevitible dropoff under Kragthorpe (even though I think they got a good one).

Auburn next year is the only game that you can chalk up as a loss next year.  By 2014 Tubberville will likely be canned for not winning enough SEC titles.


So again, WTF are we really afraid of?
Title: Re: Future schedule summary
Post by: catzacker on February 13, 2007, 11:31:48 AM
I don't get the "only play good teams if we're good" mentality.

Why not just make the move to C-USA until we're good enough to play UT, OU, etc.?

That's not what I'm saying.  What I'm saying is that I'd be more excited if I felt that, right now, we had any shot at winning those games in the near future.  I'm excited that we have convinced multiple quality teams to come to manhattan (whether it's because those teams believe they have a better shot at winning or because we didn't take some of the same stances as BS did).  That makes the home games more fun.  I'd personally rather have one top 15 team a year (home or away) and then play 3 patsies at home in the OOC.

Why don't you feel like we have a shot against any of those teams?

Miami just fired their coach after a 6-6 season and hired from within.

Oregon's last five seasons have been 7-6, 10-2, 5-6, 8-5, 7-6.  WTF?  We can't compete with that?

UCLA has gone 7-6, 10-2, 6-6, and 6-7 over the last 4 years.  Again, we have no chance against these guys?

Beamer will be on his deathbed by the time we play them.

UL will have an inevitible dropoff under Kragthorpe (even though I think they got a good one).

Auburn next year is the only game that you can chalk up as a loss next year.  By 2014 Tubberville will likely be canned for not winning enough SEC titles.


So again, WTF are we really afraid of?

What has KSU shown in the past 3 years that would say that we have a greater than 50% shot at beating a decent to above decent teams, especially on the road?  The Texas game has been proven to be a fluke.  That's why I said "right now".  Who knows, maybe we get good under Prince, but if we played all of those teams right now, we'd probably lose all of them, home or away. 
Title: Re: Future schedule summary
Post by: michigancat on February 13, 2007, 11:40:47 AM
What has KSU shown in the past 3 years that would say that we have a greater than 50% shot at beating a decent to above decent teams, especially on the road?

You're backtracking.  You've gone from "we have no shot at winning any of those games" to "we probably don't have a greater than 50% shot".  That's a big difference.


The Texas game has been proven to be a fluke.

Not enough games have been played for anything to be a fluke right now...that includes the UT win and the ku and BU losses.


Who knows, maybe we get good under Prince, but if we played all of those teams right now, we'd probably lose all of them, home or away. 

All of those teams, except Auburn and UL, are VERY compareable to OSU, who we beat in Freeman's first start.
Title: Re: Future schedule summary
Post by: coitus on February 13, 2007, 11:58:47 AM
Interesting.

I don't need to get into the ring with Wladimir Klitschko to know that I would get my ass beat.

i would pay to see this as well.
Title: Re: Future schedule summary
Post by: catzacker on February 13, 2007, 12:10:31 PM
What has KSU shown in the past 3 years that would say that we have a greater than 50% shot at beating a decent to above decent teams, especially on the road?

You're backtracking.  You've gone from "we have no shot at winning any of those games" to "we probably don't have a greater than 50% shot".  That's a big difference.


The Texas game has been proven to be a fluke.

Not enough games have been played for anything to be a fluke right now...that includes the UT win and the ku and BU losses.


Who knows, maybe we get good under Prince, but if we played all of those teams right now, we'd probably lose all of them, home or away. 

All of those teams, except Auburn and UL, are VERY compareable to OSU, who we beat in Freeman's first start.

UT was an fluke.  Doesn't mean we are a bad team.  It was like Marshall beating us in '03. 

I'm excited about  KSU playing in those games, but I guess I'm just not as optimistic as you are about the future of KSU football.  Right now, if we were playing all those teams at home (and this is excluding Fresno) I'd say we'd probalby lose.  You obviously disagree with that assessment. 
Title: Re: Future schedule summary
Post by: FBWillie on February 13, 2007, 12:14:44 PM
I wouldn't say a single one of those teams we've scheduled are better right now, than Louisville was when we played them.  
If our offense was clicking like they were in the middle of the season, Do you think we would have had a chance at knocking them off?  
I really don't feel like any of these teams are world beaters.  Auburn's clearly the closest, but what did they do last season?  Limp over a team in their bowl game that we all agree is over-rated?  
Title: Re: Future schedule summary
Post by: coitus on February 13, 2007, 12:17:55 PM
ucla/oregon/miami/fsu none of those teams are all that great right now.  opinions may vary, but ksu and those teams are all in kinda the same boat.

if ksu improves at least as fast as those teams do, we'll be very competitive.


Title: Re: Future schedule summary
Post by: McGrowlTowelZac on February 13, 2007, 12:38:22 PM
I like the expose obviously, but not if we get killed.  Which I would free for this upcoming Auburn game.  The others there are no way of knowing what the state of the program will be then.

I would have prefered the Auburn game to have been maybe the 3rd or 4th game of the season instead of the 1st.  Just so we could have had some warm up games. 

Either way, I am excited for this game.  The build up will be great, it will make the summer training that much more hyped and critical.  I will also go a head and say we won't get blown out.  Lose by 10-14 maybe, but not get blown out.  It will be a game for atleast a half. 

In Sol glo I trust!
Title: Re: Future schedule summary
Post by: Joker on February 13, 2007, 12:46:20 PM
It really is an equal trade-off when considering whether it would be better to play them 1st game or 4th game. Both teams will likely be a little rusty and raw in their first game of the season.  And likewise, I would expect each team to improve over the next several games.

Besides the obvious talent gap between the two teams, I would think the next biggest advantage would be whoever returns the most starters.
Title: Re: Future schedule summary
Post by: Pike on February 13, 2007, 02:15:30 PM
Is it possible to fluke 45 points on any team?
Title: Re: Future schedule summary
Post by: Andy on February 13, 2007, 03:32:31 PM
i think the scheduling is win-win.

if you are a bad/mediocre team, it would have proven out in the big 12 anyway so you may as well get some exposure and who knows, perhaps it does what louisville did for us this season which was speed up the inevitable turnover of the roster/development of young players which i think propelled us to a bowl game.  (i.e. we roll 4 easy opponents with dylon meier/thomas clayton then start the conf 0-4 instead of pulling that osu game out which saved the season...)

if you are a good/great team you need this game to compete at the highest levels for schedule strength/legitimacy and being ready for the conference.  plus if you do lose a close one, its been proven 1 loss teams can recover from early trip-ups.

bring em on.

Title: Re: Future schedule summary
Post by: coitus on February 13, 2007, 03:46:47 PM
Is it possible to fluke 45 points on any team?

only if you're bold and daring.
Title: Re: Future schedule summary
Post by: tmramrod91 on February 13, 2007, 05:01:15 PM
As long as RP keeps it to 2 toughies a yr, i'm pretty good with that. As long as he doesnt go gary barnett and schedule every top 5 team in the country then i think its a good thing. LSnyder scheduled cream puffs so we wouldnt get a loss so we can make a run for the NC (in his finest yrs). It will be interesting to see how this all works out.

  :popcorn:
Title: Re: Future schedule summary
Post by: waks on February 13, 2007, 05:09:29 PM
NC next year. Count it.
Title: Re: Future schedule summary
Post by: McGrowlTowelZac on February 13, 2007, 05:22:01 PM
NC next year. Count it.

i holding you to that... :hope: