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Title: BU loses top football recruiter to K-State
Post by: catsfan20012002 on January 08, 2007, 03:55:09 PM
http://www.wacotrib.com/sports/content/sports/college/2007/01/08/01082007wacmcgriff.html
Title: Re: BU loses top football recruiter to K-State
Post by: catsfan20012002 on January 08, 2007, 03:57:36 PM
Baylor recruiting coordinator Wesley McGriff will coach running backs for Ron Prince at Kansas State after working with the Baylor cornerbacks for the last four seasons. He is reportedly leaving to replace first-year running backs coach Tim Horton, who is returning to the Air Force Academy.
Title: Re: BU loses top football recruiter to K-State
Post by: FBWillie on January 08, 2007, 04:42:02 PM
no offense... but do you actually read any threads before you post new ones?
Title: Re: BU loses top football recruiter to K-State
Post by: greasd up deaf guy on January 08, 2007, 06:44:03 PM
no offense... but do you actually read any threads before you post new ones?
http://www.ksufans.com/forums/index.php?topic=5887.0
That's not '01-02's only problem.
Title: Re: BU loses top football recruiter to K-State
Post by: BWisavag on January 09, 2007, 12:49:47 PM
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Title: Re: BU loses top football recruiter to K-State
Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 09, 2007, 01:01:53 PM
Baylor has higher academic standards then everybody else in the Big 12 except CU.   Therefore it's more difficult to recruit there . . . it would seem an AgSquawk would know this.

Title: Re: BU loses top football recruiter to K-State
Post by: BWisavag on January 09, 2007, 01:41:26 PM
are you kidding me???

OU's academic standards are crap

Baylor's academic standards are as following; You have money, Check, ok, you get admitted

A&M and Texas are the two hardest schools to get into academically each year, they are the hardest schools to get into in the south... look at the average SAT numbers and class ranking for the following schools,

Texas A&M
Texas
Baylor
OU

OU will be 3rd in the list behind Texas then Texas A&M

you are an idiot
Title: Re: BU loses top football recruiter to K-State
Post by: BWisavag on January 09, 2007, 01:45:51 PM
National school rankings are as follows

47. Texas
60. Texas A&M
81. Baylor
112. Oklahoma
124. Kansas State

sorry i was wrong, baylor is ahead of oklahoma

you are an idiot
Title: Re: BU loses top football recruiter to K-State
Post by: BWisavag on January 09, 2007, 01:53:12 PM
http://www.usnews.com/usnews/edu/college/rankings/brief/t1natudoc_brief.php
Title: Re: BU loses top football recruiter to K-State
Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 09, 2007, 02:01:22 PM
No Big 12 School outside of Baylor and CU requires more then the NCAA minimum requirements for freshmen athletes.

Academic rankings and such have NOTHING to do with entrance requirements for Freshman athletes at all Big 12 schools . . . NOTHING.

You're a total dumbass . . . but by all means, keep posting.

Title: Re: BU loses top football recruiter to K-State
Post by: BWisavag on January 09, 2007, 02:23:02 PM
i backed mine up, you didnt, lets see it

idiot :jerkoff:
Title: Re: BU loses top football recruiter to K-State
Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 09, 2007, 02:44:12 PM
The only thing you backed up was academic rankings, that had nothing to do with athletics.   

Lets read the Ags Self-Study for Athletic Admission . . . here is what qualifies as "Non-Admitted":


Non-Admission
The admission process ends with the student-athlete not being admitted when any of the following conditions apply:

1. NCAA core-curriculum or cumulative core course GPA requirement(s) is not met at the time of graduation as certified by the NCAA Initial Eligibility Clearinghouse. [NOTE: According to NCAA guidelines, learning disabled students may meet the core curriculum and/or GPA requirements by taking core courses in the summer immediately following their regularly scheduled date for high school graduation.]

2. SAT/ACT score not met after final test period as certified by the NCAA Initial Eligibility Clearinghouse.

3. The student-athlete fails to graduate from high school.


Translation-If you don't meet the NCAA minimum requirements, you don't get to be an Ag Athlete.

Nothing more, Nothing less.


http://www.aggieathletics.com/nonsports/FOOT/self-study/academic.htm

The document also discusses the differences between Ag Freshman athletes and regular student body Freshman . . . and again, (if you're smart enough to read the document) it clearly shows that all that's required is the NCAA minimum.



Title: Re: BU loses top football recruiter to K-State
Post by: BWisavag on January 09, 2007, 02:48:05 PM
you have not backed anything up
Title: Re: BU loses top football recruiter to K-State
Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 09, 2007, 02:54:07 PM
I backed everything up . . . it's the offiical admission process of Texas A&M athletics.

Again, nothing more then the NCAA minimum requirements for incoming scholarship freshman athletes.

Apparently you're not capable of reading the document.

You're a total dumbass.

Title: Re: BU loses top football recruiter to K-State
Post by: BWisavag on January 09, 2007, 03:01:35 PM
you gave A&M's

not gaylors

man it seems KSU has pretty weak admissions
Title: Re: BU loses top football recruiter to K-State
Post by: BWisavag on January 09, 2007, 03:05:17 PM
to back up your statement you need to provide both and compare them...

this would be like this situation;

KSUck fan :"Yeah man we did great against Father Kansas yesterday, we scored 82 points"
Father Kansas: "Too bad we scored 124"

yeah 82 points tells half the story

i award you no points,
may God have mercy on your soul
Title: Re: BU loses top football recruiter to K-State
Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 09, 2007, 03:06:24 PM
LOL!!

You just went on and on about how tough it was to get into A&M (which is true for non-athletes) painting with a broad brush.  You "backed  up" your weak smack with general student body related academic rankings . . . which don't have anything to do with athletic admissions.

But now you've been proven wrong even about your own school and you still want to be a dumbass.

Sad . . .
Title: Re: BU loses top football recruiter to K-State
Post by: BWisavag on January 09, 2007, 03:07:22 PM
what school is my school again...

and by the way... you have no backed up any argument
Title: Re: BU loses top football recruiter to K-State
Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 09, 2007, 03:09:31 PM
Okay . . . and the only argument you've  backed up is that some Big 12 schools are rated high in academic ranking rags.  You've done NOTHING to disprove my original statement . . . NOTHING.   It's not me who is questioning anything, it's you who is questioning my statement about Baylor and CU.   You PROVE me wrong.

What school are you from Sock??



Title: Re: BU loses top football recruiter to K-State
Post by: BWisavag on January 09, 2007, 03:11:56 PM
it seems you have given up on trying to find baylor's standards...

the burden of proof is on the originator of the statement...
Title: Re: BU loses top football recruiter to K-State
Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 09, 2007, 03:13:22 PM
Baylor's admission for athletes who do not meet Baylor's standard requirements is as follows:


Admission By Individual Approval
In addition, applicants who possess special or unique talents or abilities in music, the visual or performing arts, athletics, or other extenuating circumstances who wish to pursue a degree but who do not qualify for admission may be offered admission at the discretion of the Admissions Committee upon the request of the dean, department chair, or athletic coach. Such admission may require attendance in summer school and/or entrance with special requirements.

What's your school again Sock??




Title: Re: BU loses top football recruiter to K-State
Post by: BWisavag on January 09, 2007, 03:18:17 PM
1st post URL

2nd there is nothing noting that you need anything more then minimum NCAA requirements..

it basically says, "Get Guymo to talk to the dean and you are in"
Title: Re: BU loses top football recruiter to K-State
Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 09, 2007, 03:21:08 PM
Difference . . . all incoming freshman at Baylor are required to through the same admissions process.

Texas A&M Freshman Athletes . . . just get through the NCAA Clearinghouse, standards far below the institutions standards for non student athletes, and the most basic admissions process that exists.



Title: Re: BU loses top football recruiter to K-State
Post by: BWisavag on January 09, 2007, 03:26:27 PM
this is speculation, please back it up with proof
Title: Re: BU loses top football recruiter to K-State
Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 09, 2007, 03:30:21 PM
I've already proved it.

You only get moved to the individual admission process at Baylor if you don't meet the standard entrance requirements.

At A&M . . . just get through the Clearinghouse if you're an athlete.

Game . . . set . . . match.

Now what school are you at Sock??

Tell us again how academic rankings predicate admissions standards for athletes.

Title: Re: BU loses top football recruiter to K-State
Post by: BWisavag on January 09, 2007, 03:37:39 PM
again, if trying to prove something URL must be given

second, it just says that you gotta get Guymo to write you a letter and then the dean to sign it... its clearinghouse as well... i have a friend that went to baylor on a ftball and he is literally retarded
Title: Re: BU loses top football recruiter to K-State
Post by: Ameroogie on January 09, 2007, 03:42:02 PM
again, if trying to prove something URL must be given

second, it just says that you gotta get Guymo to write you a letter and then the dean to sign it... its clearinghouse as well... i have a friend seat partner on the short bus we rode to school that went to baylor on a ftball and he is literally retarded. Given he was the valedictorian of our class, my only hope was to spread my gayness on message boards.

Appropriate edits made...
Title: Re: BU loses top football recruiter to K-State
Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 09, 2007, 03:43:13 PM
again, if trying to prove something URL must be given

second, it just says that you gotta get Guymo to write you a letter and then the dean to sign it... its clearinghouse as well... i have a friend that went to baylor on a ftball and he is literally retarded

Oh okay, so you're incapable of finding Baylor's entrance requirements.  

You're second sentence is unmitigated speculation.  

Lets review . . . you attempted to:  1.  Back up your claim that Aggie (or whatever school you're for) and UT had tougher entrance requirements for athletes by rolling out 3rd party general student body/institutional academic rankings.  2.  You then attempt to refute my statement by saying things that are nothing but hearsay, innuendo and speculation.  Yet I am the one that has to provide all the URL's and cut and pastes from the official (Not 3rd Party Sources) websites??

Good gawd you are Aggie/Sock dumb.

Title: Re: BU loses top football recruiter to K-State
Post by: BWisavag on January 09, 2007, 03:57:19 PM
you have to be the dumbest poster ever...

you realize liars go to hell right?
Title: Re: BU loses top football recruiter to K-State
Post by: BWisavag on January 09, 2007, 04:01:03 PM
also, even if you were able to put forth the url, (which you seem scared to because you are making it up) that statement still proves nothing, it proves there is a different admissions process, not a harder... it just says there is more beuracracy, and at all schools once you are in you must be admitted to a college within the school, and through that admission you must mean minimum college requirements

honestly, give up, God hates you
Title: Re: BU loses top football recruiter to K-State
Post by: mjrod on January 09, 2007, 04:03:09 PM
Where are the academic admission standards for Baylor?

I'm just wanting to compare Dax's link to the Texas A&M link he provided.

Also, can someone tell me where it says academic admissions standards are included in this explanation (http://www.usnews.com/usnews/edu/college/rankings/about/weight_brief.php) for ranking the schools from the (only) link provided by the Aggy Gay dude?

Thanks.
Title: Re: BU loses top football recruiter to K-State
Post by: BWisavag on January 09, 2007, 04:06:23 PM
from the link you just gave, simply look at the row called "STUDENT SELECTIVITY"

Title: Re: BU loses top football recruiter to K-State
Post by: BWisavag on January 09, 2007, 04:06:53 PM
SELF PWN3D :nahnah:
Title: Re: BU loses top football recruiter to K-State
Post by: mjrod on January 09, 2007, 04:09:02 PM
from the link you just gave, simply look at the row called "STUDENT SELECTIVITY"

Did you even read how they factor the score?

No?  Cool.


Title: Re: BU loses top football recruiter to K-State
Post by: BWisavag on January 09, 2007, 04:20:15 PM
cant dig outta this hole champ
Title: Re: BU loses top football recruiter to K-State
Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 09, 2007, 04:22:55 PM
And student selectivity on the genearl student basis has NOTHING to do with athletics as I have clearly demonstrated.   Sexually confused sock tried to make an argument using unrelated items from 3rd party sources that had nothing to do with athletics, nor institutional policy.

With the "owned" part we can now start narrowing down where Sexually Conflicted Sock is really from.

http://www.baylor.edu/admissions/
Title: Re: BU loses top football recruiter to K-State
Post by: BWisavag on January 09, 2007, 04:25:08 PM
again, your post is inept in proving your point

you post a URL that does not prove your point

Title: Re: BU loses top football recruiter to K-State
Post by: BWisavag on January 09, 2007, 04:28:47 PM
since you dont understand i will continue to post this until you show proof otherwise...

what you have said, even if backed up by url is inept in proving the point you are attempting to make...

if you found said URL it would prove one thing, there is more of a bearacracy at baylor than at a&m... its that simple, i know that may be hard for someone from a school ranked so low to figure it out, so i will continue to post this so you can reread it.

 :popcorn:
Title: Re: BU loses top football recruiter to K-State
Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 09, 2007, 04:33:54 PM
At schools that only require the NCAA minumum, like 10 schools in the Big 12, there is in place a seperate admissions processs only for freshman student athletes.  At Baylor all incoming Freshman go through the same process.

The NCAA Clearinghouse allows for a high enough GPA to circumvent a non-qualifying standardized test score, at Baylor, ALL FRESHMAN must have a qualifying GPA and a qualifying test score.  

. Baylor should, because admissions standards need to be tied to the university's unique academic demands, maintain its current standards of a minimum SAT of 820 (or ACT of 68) and a qualifying core GPA, despite the fact that NCAA initial eligibility legislation now features an index with no minimum score required on the SAT/ACT as long as the core high school GPA is high enough.

http://www.baylor.edu/pr/news.php?action=story&story=8145

Plus for the last time, your URL's have NOTHING to do with athletics, NOTHING.  They are from 3rd parties, and are not based on any official documentation whatsoever . . . shame on me for continuing this.

The rest of your bilge is nothing but personal opinion backed up by nothing.







Title: Re: BU loses top football recruiter to K-State
Post by: mjrod on January 09, 2007, 04:38:15 PM
cant dig outta this hole champ

Nice tapout.
Title: Re: BU loses top football recruiter to K-State
Post by: BWisavag on January 09, 2007, 04:40:02 PM
""The task force produced conclusions that indicate a wide range of participation and broad-based commitment, especially the use of the athletic department as a resource and the head coaches for all sports who were invited to participate in the formulation of the final recommendations," Sloan said. "I look forward to the implementation of their work.""

IT HASNT BEEN IMPLEMENTED YET IDIOT!!! i was waiting for you to post this!!! its okay, you were perfectly baited, most would have fallen into the trap... Baylor made the recommendations and never implemented them...

for this you are an idiot...

God hates you

people like you make baby Jesus cry
Title: Re: BU loses top football recruiter to K-State
Post by: BWisavag on January 09, 2007, 04:41:21 PM
again, you are an idiot... they made the recommendation 2 and a half years ago and never followed through because Guymo told them it would hurt recruiting...  :ustupid:
Title: Re: BU loses top football recruiter to K-State
Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 09, 2007, 04:45:06 PM
I guess the word MAINTAIN is completely lost on a dumbass such as yourself. 

Baylor should, because admissions standards need to be tied to the university's unique academic demands, maintain its current standards of a minimum SAT of 820 (or ACT of 68) and a qualifying core GPA, despite the fact that NCAA initial eligibility legislation now features an index with no minimum score required on the SAT/ACT as long as the core high school GPA is high enough.
Title: Re: BU loses top football recruiter to K-State
Post by: BWisavag on January 09, 2007, 05:31:23 PM
tell me, what is the range of scores one may recieve on the ACT?

there ya go... didnt think this one through did you???
Title: Re: BU loses top football recruiter to K-State
Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 09, 2007, 05:34:49 PM
Sure . . . and the NCAA minimum standards, which 10 of 12 Big 12 Schools use to determine the admittance of Freshman Athletes allows for an freshman athlete with a high enough GPA to by-pass the standardized test score issue all together.

No charge dumbass.

Now . . . continue to use 3rd party sources that have nothing to do with athletics to try and "back up" your "argument".

You never think do you??



Title: Re: BU loses top football recruiter to K-State
Post by: BWisavag on January 09, 2007, 05:39:53 PM
tell me, what is the range of scores one may recieve on the ACT?

and then look at the Baylor statement...

just look
Title: Re: BU loses top football recruiter to K-State
Post by: BWisavag on January 09, 2007, 05:44:33 PM
did ya look?
Title: Re: BU loses top football recruiter to K-State
Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 09, 2007, 05:47:23 PM
400 to 1010 on SAT or 37 to 86 on the ACT (Source-NCAA. Org) if you have a 3.55 GPA or above you can score a 400 on the SAT or a 37 on the ACT (akin to doing nothing  more then signing your name) you can get through the clearinghouse.

With Grade Inflation particularly for athletes, it makes the NCAA Clearinghouse minimum requirements even a bigger joke.  Props to Baylor.



Title: Re: BU loses top football recruiter to K-State
Post by: BWisavag on January 09, 2007, 05:54:53 PM
what is the highest score you can get on the ACT?

just answer the question then review previous posts
Title: Re: BU loses top football recruiter to K-State
Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 09, 2007, 06:00:34 PM
The Highest score you can get is a 36 which is a 99 on all sections.   So using ACT's scale, if you score a 68 (Baylor's minimum) on the composite that's compareable to getting a 22.5-23 overall as far as I can tell.

The NCAA Minimum Clearinghouse Requirement would allow someone to score a 17-18 overall, and IF they have a 3.55 GPA or above, they can get through.   

Props to Baylor for having higher requirements then the NCAA minimum like all other Big 12 Schools have for Freshman Athletes except CU.





Title: Re: BU loses top football recruiter to K-State
Post by: BWisavag on January 09, 2007, 06:03:32 PM
you have to be the biggest idiot i have ever seen post on any forum, to tell you plain and simple exactly where you are wrong and you still are too stupid to see it... please go off and die somewhere... you are rediculously stupid its no use even showing how retarded you are because you are too stupid to understand it...


"The world needs ditchdiggers too!"
this pretty much sums up why you were allowed to live
Title: Re: BU loses top football recruiter to K-State
Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 09, 2007, 06:06:42 PM
Nice tap out.
Title: Re: BU loses top football recruiter to K-State
Post by: FBWillie on January 09, 2007, 11:10:40 PM
since you dont understand i will continue to post this until you show proof otherwise...

what you have said, even if backed up by url is inept in proving the point you are attempting to make...

if you found said URL it would prove one thing, there is more of a bearacracy at baylor than at a&m... its that simple, i know that may be hard for someone from a school ranked so low to figure it out, so i will continue to post this so you can reread it.

 :popcorn:

What does "bearacracy" mean?
Title: Re: BU loses top football recruiter to K-State
Post by: catsfan20012002 on January 12, 2007, 10:52:54 AM
Now I get it!!!!! Coach McGriff's main responsibility will be to recruit the state of Texas.