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Sports => Frank Martin's OOD sponsored by the "Angriest Fans in America" => Topic started by: Olivia Neutron Bomb on January 21, 2010, 11:10:05 AM
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OK, watching the Baylor game was a study in contrast. Bramlage Monday night compared to Phag Allen last night when ku played Baylor was night and day different, which led to some thoughts people here may know more about than I do:
1. We let students have seats around the entire court at Bramlage, giving it the awesomeness that is making a name for K-State nationwide.
2. ku basically sells it's courtside seats to outsiders, who pay a growing premium to get those seats. One of the results is that ku has a much larger revenue stream from basketball than does K-State, but they get that money at the expense of atmosphere. ku will try to glorify that mausoleum as being one of the best basketball venues in the country, but I don't buy it. They've sold their soul for money.
So, I've heard suggestions that we do something similar to ku to raise money to pay Frank Martin and his staff more money for the success they've brought to the program. Thoughts on this apparent trade-off?
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There are lots of ways to increase revenue. One way would be to stop selling tix to young alumni and Alumni association members for 60 bucks for the season.
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There are lots of ways to increase revenue. One way would be to stop selling tix to young alumni and Alumni association members for 60 bucks for the season.
They are cheap but not that cheap. I bought young alum last year and paid $150 plus $30 handle fee. I also think the young alumni seats are limited in number.
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agreed....the whiners here complain about high prices, yet they want big salaries. And I guarantee most of them don't give a dime beyond the ticket price.
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There are lots of ways to increase revenue. One way would be to stop selling tix to young alumni and Alumni association members for 60 bucks for the season.
If young alumni tickets are supposed to be 60 bucks then I've been getting screwed bigtime.
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OK, watching the Baylor game was a study in contrast. Bramlage Monday night compared to Phag Allen last night when ku played Baylor was night and day different, which led to some thoughts people here may know more about than I do:
1. We let students have seats around the entire court at Bramlage, giving it the awesomeness that is making a name for K-State nationwide.
2. ku basically sells it's courtside seats to outsiders, who pay a growing premium to get those seats. One of the results is that ku has a much larger revenue stream from basketball than does K-State, but they get that money at the expense of atmosphere. ku will try to glorify that mausoleum as being one of the best basketball venues in the country, but I don't buy it. They've sold their soul for money.
So, I've heard suggestions that we do something similar to ku to raise money to pay Frank Martin and his staff more money for the success they've brought to the program. Thoughts on this apparent trade-off?
We need money, but changing the student section in any way would totally blow imo.
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OK, watching the Baylor game was a study in contrast. Bramlage Monday night compared to Phag Allen last night when ku played Baylor was night and day different, which led to some thoughts people here may know more about than I do:
1. We let students have seats around the entire court at Bramlage, giving it the awesomeness that is making a name for K-State nationwide.
2. ku basically sells it's courtside seats to outsiders, who pay a growing premium to get those seats. One of the results is that ku has a much larger revenue stream from basketball than does K-State, but they get that money at the expense of atmosphere. ku will try to glorify that mausoleum as being one of the best basketball venues in the country, but I don't buy it. They've sold their soul for money.
So, I've heard suggestions that we do something similar to ku to raise money to pay Frank Martin and his staff more money for the success they've brought to the program. Thoughts on this apparent trade-off?
We need money, but changing the student section in any way would totally blow imo.
The student section is way larger than most big time programs...and if we're going to be big time we need big time seats to sell. Time for the waiting lists.... At ku, forget about being able to buy GA student ticket unless you're a senior.
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OK, watching the Baylor game was a study in contrast. Bramlage Monday night compared to Phag Allen last night when ku played Baylor was night and day different, which led to some thoughts people here may know more about than I do:
1. We let students have seats around the entire court at Bramlage, giving it the awesomeness that is making a name for K-State nationwide.
2. ku basically sells it's courtside seats to outsiders, who pay a growing premium to get those seats. One of the results is that ku has a much larger revenue stream from basketball than does K-State, but they get that money at the expense of atmosphere. ku will try to glorify that mausoleum as being one of the best basketball venues in the country, but I don't buy it. They've sold their soul for money.
So, I've heard suggestions that we do something similar to ku to raise money to pay Frank Martin and his staff more money for the success they've brought to the program. Thoughts on this apparent trade-off?
We need money, but changing the student section in any way would totally blow imo.
The student section is way larger than most big time programs...and if we're going to be big time we need big time seats to sell. Time for the waiting lists.... At ku, forget about being able to buy GA student ticket unless you're a senior.
Yeah it would be great to decrease the student attendance and add old people who don't cheer. :rolleyes:
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I'd disagree, I think we can make enough money while still having the students where they are. For starters our students pay some of the highest student ticket cost in the country.
Also, Frank makes the same Wolly did. So if our basketball program could afford Wolly when he was putting under half as many people in the stands you think they could give Frank a raise with the current seating arrangement.
Another way of making more money would be upping the cost of advertisement since we are on national TV 6 or 7 times a year. Has anyone thought of adding an advertisers name in front of Bramlage. And lets just raise the ticket cost for the people who have money. I doubt raising the cost of the seats across from the students is going to run any of those people off. Just some ideas.
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Take all the courtside media and put them in the rafters or in the open spaces at the ends of the court where a void of nothingness exists for no reason.
Sell those new seats that just opened for top dollar.
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I think we should decrease the # of rows for students and have them spread over to the tunnel & put GA above them (say >row 25). It keeps them up close, but allows the AD to sell more tix for more $$. In otherwords, sell that last few rows for those sections as GA and then charge a base $50/ticket for all other ticket sections that are currently fee-less.
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There are lots of ways to increase revenue. One way would be to stop selling tix to young alumni and Alumni association members for 60 bucks for the season.
Sorry, that should have been $160. If you're a young alum and an alumni association member, you get 20 bucks off that 180. Its like less than 10 bucks a game.
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OK, watching the Baylor game was a study in contrast. Bramlage Monday night compared to Phag Allen last night when ku played Baylor was night and day different, which led to some thoughts people here may know more about than I do:
1. We let students have seats around the entire court at Bramlage, giving it the awesomeness that is making a name for K-State nationwide.
2. ku basically sells it's courtside seats to outsiders, who pay a growing premium to get those seats. One of the results is that ku has a much larger revenue stream from basketball than does K-State, but they get that money at the expense of atmosphere. ku will try to glorify that mausoleum as being one of the best basketball venues in the country, but I don't buy it. They've sold their soul for money.
So, I've heard suggestions that we do something similar to ku to raise money to pay Frank Martin and his staff more money for the success they've brought to the program. Thoughts on this apparent trade-off?
We need money, but changing the student section in any way would totally blow imo.
The student section is way larger than most big time programs...and if we're going to be big time we need big time seats to sell. Time for the waiting lists.... At ku, forget about being able to buy GA student ticket unless you're a senior.
Yeah it would be great to decrease the student attendance and add old people who don't cheer. :rolleyes:
that's not what I'm advocating...I'm just saying our student section is one of the largest and takes up far more seating than UNC, Duke, ku, Kentucky, and its not even an argument.
And yeah, the old people aren't near as into it and loud as the students but they WILL cheer for a winner...and that is what we experienced Monday. Even the old folks in sec. 5-6-7 were making noise.....and will for the forseeable future. We're going to be a good team for quite a while*
*as long as Currie-Martin pans out
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Take all the courtside media and put them in the rafters
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Kellis Fitz
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KSU student tickets are not among the highest priced in the country.
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We have to trust Currie to do the right thing by Frank and his staff, and believe he will. Hope he's reading this thread and getting on the revenue production yesterday.
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OK, watching the Baylor game was a study in contrast. Bramlage Monday night compared to Phag Allen last night when ku played Baylor was night and day different, which led to some thoughts people here may know more about than I do:
1. We let students have seats around the entire court at Bramlage, giving it the awesomeness that is making a name for K-State nationwide.
2. ku basically sells it's courtside seats to outsiders, who pay a growing premium to get those seats. One of the results is that ku has a much larger revenue stream from basketball than does K-State, but they get that money at the expense of atmosphere. ku will try to glorify that mausoleum as being one of the best basketball venues in the country, but I don't buy it. They've sold their soul for money.
So, I've heard suggestions that we do something similar to ku to raise money to pay Frank Martin and his staff more money for the success they've brought to the program. Thoughts on this apparent trade-off?
We need money, but changing the student section in any way would totally blow imo.
The student section is way larger than most big time programs...and if we're going to be big time we need big time seats to sell. Time for the waiting lists.... At ku, forget about being able to buy GA student ticket unless you're a senior.
Yeah it would be great to decrease the student attendance and add old people who don't cheer. :rolleyes:
that's not what I'm advocating...I'm just saying our student section is one of the largest and takes up far more seating than UNC, Duke, ku, Kentucky, and its not even an argument.
And yeah, the old people aren't near as into it and loud as the students but they WILL cheer for a winner...and that is what we experienced Monday. Even the old folks in sec. 5-6-7 were making noise.....and will for the forseeable future. We're going to be a good team for quite a while*
*as long as Currie-Martin pans out
I understand that our student section is one of the largest in the nation. The media hasn't stopped talking about how big and amazing it is. I think making it smaller or changing it should be a last resort.
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without cash to pay a staff = 1992 KSU basketball.
Sorry students, you may pay a high price, but you also sit mid-court. Make everyone happy, move the students to the end with cheaper tix, sell midcourt tix at a premium, sell a reduced number of student tix at midcourt at a premium (or at the same price but FCFS), move the media to the other end (tunnel) and be done.
Oh, and sell beer, at least outside the stadium in the parking lots or something, then you would see the revenues skyrocket.
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without cash to pay a staff = 1992 KSU basketball.
Sorry students, you may pay a high price, but you also sit mid-court. Make everyone happy, move the students to the end with cheaper tix, sell midcourt tix at a premium, sell a reduced number of student tix at midcourt at a premium (or at the same price but FCFS), move the media to the other end (tunnel) and be done.
Let's just get rid of the students. Who needs a good atmosphere when there's a chance to make money?
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I think we're ignoring the whole underdog aspect of things. Once we are no longer the underdog, the fans just won't be as vicious. That's when we go for the cash w/ seating.
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I think we're ignoring the whole underdog aspect of things. Once we are no longer the underdog, the fans just won't be as vicious. That's when we go for the cash w/ seating.
great insight dude (??)
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OK, watching the Baylor game was a study in contrast. Bramlage Monday night compared to Phag Allen last night when ku played Baylor was night and day different, which led to some thoughts people here may know more about than I do:
1. We let students have seats around the entire court at Bramlage, giving it the awesomeness that is making a name for K-State nationwide.
2. ku basically sells it's courtside seats to outsiders, who pay a growing premium to get those seats. One of the results is that ku has a much larger revenue stream from basketball than does K-State, but they get that money at the expense of atmosphere. ku will try to glorify that mausoleum as being one of the best basketball venues in the country, but I don't buy it. They've sold their soul for money.
So, I've heard suggestions that we do something similar to ku to raise money to pay Frank Martin and his staff more money for the success they've brought to the program. Thoughts on this apparent trade-off?
We need money, but changing the student section in any way would totally blow imo.
The student section is way larger than most big time programs...and if we're going to be big time we need big time seats to sell. Time for the waiting lists.... At ku, forget about being able to buy GA student ticket unless you're a senior.
Uh, you are incredibly wrong.
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OK, watching the Baylor game was a study in contrast. Bramlage Monday night compared to Phag Allen last night when ku played Baylor was night and day different, which led to some thoughts people here may know more about than I do:
1. We let students have seats around the entire court at Bramlage, giving it the awesomeness that is making a name for K-State nationwide.
2. ku basically sells it's courtside seats to outsiders, who pay a growing premium to get those seats. One of the results is that ku has a much larger revenue stream from basketball than does K-State, but they get that money at the expense of atmosphere. ku will try to glorify that mausoleum as being one of the best basketball venues in the country, but I don't buy it. They've sold their soul for money.
So, I've heard suggestions that we do something similar to ku to raise money to pay Frank Martin and his staff more money for the success they've brought to the program. Thoughts on this apparent trade-off?
We need money, but changing the student section in any way would totally blow imo.
The student section is way larger than most big time programs...and if we're going to be big time we need big time seats to sell. Time for the waiting lists.... At ku, forget about being able to buy GA student ticket unless you're a senior.
Uh, you are incredibly wrong.
I agree with you, getting rid of the students is very wrong. Have you forgot that this is a higher learning institution. Student tuition pays for most everything. This isn't the NBA. Taking care of the students should be numero uno and I think that KSU has done an excellent job at it.
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anyone who advocates moving students out of 19,20,21 is a &@#%ing idiot. Make ICAT the way it was. Charge significantly more, go BACK to reserved seating and raise the rest of the seats 15%-20%. More then enough for raises and faculties.
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I think we're ignoring the whole underdog aspect of things. Once we are no longer the underdog, the fans just won't be as vicious. That's when we go for the cash w/ seating.
great insight dude (??)
thanks
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I think we're ignoring the whole underdog aspect of things. Once we are no longer the underdog, the fans just won't be as vicious. That's when we go for the cash w/ seating.
great insight dude (??)
thanks
if you are correct, we can perhaps bring back the halftime pizza contest to keep the crowd fired up.
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There are lots of ways to increase revenue. One way would be to stop selling tix to young alumni and Alumni association members for 60 bucks for the season.
was $100 when huggs was here, which was my first young alum yr. its gone up every season, i fully expect to pay $200+ next yr which is still a great deal. Was kinda surprised they extended the young alum thing from 3 yrs to 5 yrs.
no matter how you look at this, theres so much untapped revenue out there, $ can't be the reason this doesn't get done unless our new AD is just incredibly lazy and stupid.
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The students should be left where they are at and with the same amount of tickets. Makes the atmosphere better for everyone (except for maybe those who dislike obscenities being chanted).
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anyone who advocates moving students out of 19,20,21 is a fracking idiot. Make ICAT the way it was. Charge significantly more, go BACK to reserved seating and raise the rest of the seats 15%-20%. More then enough for raises and faculties.
icat used to be reserve seating?
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There are lots of ways to increase revenue. One way would be to stop selling tix to young alumni and Alumni association members for 60 bucks for the season.
was $100 when huggs was here, which was my first young alum yr. its gone up every season, i fully expect to pay $200+ next yr which is still a great deal. Was kinda surprised they extended the young alum thing from 3 yrs to 5 yrs.
no matter how you look at this, theres so much untapped revenue out there, $ can't be the reason this doesn't get done unless our new AD is just incredibly lazy and stupid.
If you don't take care of the young alumni then they won't write the checks when they become old alumni.
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The original poster made a great point. If you want the University to give the coach more money, that money has to come from somewhere. It doesn't grow on trees. It isn't merely a matter of Currie wanting to keep him. He has to have the money. And perhaps they need to get more revenue out of Bramlage. If that means turning some student seating into higher revenue seating, so be it. This isn't socialism. This is capitalism. If you want to give money to someone, you have to get money from someone.
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anyone who advocates moving students out of 19,20,21 is a fracking idiot. Make ICAT the way it was. Charge significantly more, go BACK to reserved seating and raise the rest of the seats 15%-20%. More then enough for raises and faculties.
icat used to be reserve seating?
all of them use to be. circa 2001/02
students should be willing to pay a crap ton more for that. the system is already rigged to allow the same people to get those seats.
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yeah we should definitely move the students.
i don't like how our program is getting national attention for having a great home atmosphere either. we need to do something immediately to make sure possible recruits don't mistake us for anything out of the ordinary.
:ksu: ?
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anyone who advocates moving students out of 19,20,21 is a fracking idiot. Make ICAT the way it was. Charge significantly more, go BACK to reserved seating and raise the rest of the seats 15%-20%. More then enough for raises and faculties.
icat used to be reserve seating?
Yes, it was awful.
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When Kansas State elected to build a new stadium, student tuition was raised in order to pay for it (unlike cigarette taxes in Nebraska). To get this increase to pass, compensations to the students were made: number of student tickets available and where these seats would be located. Best deal that they ever made, both for the students and K-State.
Without the current support of the student, Kansas State basketball would not be where it is at today.
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When Kansas State elected to build a new stadium, student tuition was raised in order to pay for it (unlike cigarette taxes in Nebraska). To get this increase to pass, compensations to the students were made: number of student tickets available and where these seats would be located. Best deal that they ever made, both for the students and K-State.
Without the current support of the student, Kansas State basketball would not be where it is at today.
Do you think it is important to K-State basketball to keep the coach? Where do you think the money should come from which will pay him more than he could get elsewhere?
Basically, I hear a lot of people saying, "We have to keep this number of student seats and in these prime spots" and "The University has to pay Frank Martin what he deserves!" Do you see how those two things are in conflict? It's like wanting the government to give you great services, but not wanting to pay taxes. That doesn't work.
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Basically, I hear a lot of people saying, "We have to keep this number of student seats and in these prime spots" and "The University has to pay Frank Martin what he deserves!" Do you see how those two things are in conflict? It's like wanting the government to give you great services, but not wanting to pay taxes. That doesn't work.
they aren't in conflict. men's bball is substantially in the black (ca. 1.2 mill per last year's budget and currie yesterday). the money is just being spent on stuff that isn't men's bball.
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When Kansas State elected to build a new stadium, student tuition was raised in order to pay for it (unlike cigarette taxes in Nebraska). To get this increase to pass, compensations to the students were made: number of student tickets available and where these seats would be located. Best deal that they ever made, both for the students and K-State.
Without the current support of the student, Kansas State basketball would not be where it is at today.
Do you think it is important to K-State basketball to keep the coach? Where do you think the money should come from which will pay him more than he could get elsewhere?
Take it out of JC fat ass contract. If FM takes the Cats to the NCAA, his bonus should go towards the new contract of FM.
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When Kansas State elected to build a new stadium, student tuition was raised in order to pay for it (unlike cigarette taxes in Nebraska). To get this increase to pass, compensations to the students were made: number of student tickets available and where these seats would be located. Best deal that they ever made, both for the students and K-State.
Without the current support of the student, Kansas State basketball would not be where it is at today.
Do you think it is important to K-State basketball to keep the coach? Where do you think the money should come from which will pay him more than he could get elsewhere?
Basically, I hear a lot of people saying, "We have to keep this number of student seats and in these prime spots" and "The University has to pay Frank Martin what he deserves!" Do you see how those two things are in conflict? It's like wanting the government to give you great services, but not wanting to pay taxes. That doesn't work.
Good point. I guess the only thing I can think of is: The students are helping to make this program a winner, and it is easier to find financial support for a winner.
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students have CHEAP &@#%ING TICKETS FOR GREAT SEATS. MAKE THEM PAY. Add 20% to all other tickets. Make ICAT worth it again!
anyone who advocates moving students out of 19,20,21 is a fracking idiot. Make ICAT the way it was. Charge significantly more, go BACK to reserved seating and raise the rest of the seats 15%-20%. More then enough for raises and faculties.
icat used to be reserve seating?
Yes, it as awful.
justify your statement because you look like a retard right now.
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yeah we should definitely move the students.
i don't like how our program is getting national attention for having a great home atmosphere either. we need to do something immediately to make sure possible recruits don't mistake us for anything out of the ordinary.
:ksu: ?
:kstatriot:
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The Chairbacks are the only seats that should be assigned seating. This keeps the priority points system in place for the donors.
The rest of the arena should be GA, priced by section so you can purchase tickets at the price you can afford. Your price for the section you want would be a base price. You then get a discount for 1-donation level, 2 - discount for young alumni that goes down every year you are out of school, 3 - discount for active students, 4 - discounts for purchasing season tickets to other sports.
Keep sections 18-21 students only. The rest of the arena would be FCFS. This allows the students to buy premium tickets at a good price. Student ID would be required in this section. You also get the best fans closest to the action because they will be the ones who are willing to show up early to get the seats they want. These are the fans that make the most noise. Keeping them closest to the floor will make the entire arena look crazy.
Keep one section for day of game walk up tickets. That would make tickets available to everyone. College athletics should be available to everyone.
Just some thoughts. Begin criticism now.
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i like this idea
1. The student section should be cutoff around row 15. But, to keep to same allocation, the student section section should extend out behind the basketball goals. And students should be crammed into floor seats behind the goals.
(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a279/mirak/bramdog.jpg)
2. New "premium" chairback seats should be installed on the east side above the student section. Boost ticket prices.
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The Chairbacks are the only seats that should be assigned seating. This keeps the priority points system in place for the donors.
The rest of the arena should be GA, priced by section so you can purchase tickets at the price you can afford. Your price for the section you want would be a base price. You then get a discount for 1-donation level, 2 - discount for young alumni that goes down every year you are out of school, 3 - discount for active students, 4 - discounts for purchasing season tickets to other sports.
Keep sections 18-21 students only. The rest of the arena would be FCFS. This allows the students to buy premium tickets at a good price. Student ID would be required in this section. You also get the best fans closest to the action because they will be the ones who are willing to show up early to get the seats they want. These are the fans that make the most noise. Keeping them closest to the floor will make the entire arena look crazy.
Keep one section for day of game walk up tickets. That would make tickets available to everyone. College athletics should be available to everyone.
Just some thoughts. Begin criticism now.
:kstatriot: :kstatriot: :kstatriot: :kstatriot: :kstatriot: :kstatriot: :kstatriot:
your donation idea is backwards to common sense. Right now your donation allows you purchase in a certain section. go research on ahearnfund.com to see the details.
I have no problem with the current system. Pay for what you want with your donation and you get closer to the floor based on your longevity.
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We've had this discussion before when it didn't really matter. One of the major problems with the OOD is the design; its basically a hole in the ground with cement stair steps. It makes it really tough to make a distinguished upper and lower level and set vastly different prices. Now they've got the old man-ish chair backs on seats and charge a little more, but overally its just a lot different when you can't clearly distinguish an upper and lower level for fans to choose from.
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When Kansas State elected to build a new stadium, student tuition was raised in order to pay for it (unlike cigarette taxes in Nebraska). To get this increase to pass, compensations to the students were made: number of student tickets available and where these seats would be located. Best deal that they ever made, both for the students and K-State.
Without the current support of the student, Kansas State basketball would not be where it is at today.
Do you think it is important to K-State basketball to keep the coach? Where do you think the money should come from which will pay him more than he could get elsewhere?
Basically, I hear a lot of people saying, "We have to keep this number of student seats and in these prime spots" and "The University has to pay Frank Martin what he deserves!" Do you see how those two things are in conflict? It's like wanting the government to give you great services, but not wanting to pay taxes. That doesn't work.
They're not really in conflict because there is a BBALL surplus there to pay Frank Martin. Just means taking away some of the money that is going to other sports and letting bball keep it. Also to me a winner pays for itself therefore it makes no sense not to pony up to keep a winner. Say we pay Frank 1.5 Mill or we get a SLTH and pay him 850K which is probably the going rate for a SLTH. Frank will easily make up the 650K in increased ticket revenue, donations, merchandise sales, shoe contracts etc.
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students have CHEAP frackING TICKETS FOR GREAT SEATS. MAKE THEM PAY. Add 20% to all other tickets. Make ICAT worth it again!
anyone who advocates moving students out of 19,20,21 is a fracking idiot. Make ICAT the way it was. Charge significantly more, go BACK to reserved seating and raise the rest of the seats 15%-20%. More then enough for raises and faculties.
icat used to be reserve seating?
Yes, it as awful.
justify your statement because you look like a retard right now.
I look like a retard because assigned seats in the student section is an awful idea?
1. Half the people sat in their assigned seats and half didn't, so the first 10 minutes of the game was spent arguing over where people shout sit.
2. It rewarded 6-year morons who couldn't graduate because they got first row, leaving the real fans that are freshmen in the back row (since seats were assigned at enrollment).
3. There was no reason to show up more than 5 minutes before the game since you already had seats and if anyone sat there you could get them kicked out so there was no atmosphere whatsoever.
I wouldn't mind splitting it into sections and charging more for the first 10 rows or something but assigned seating in a student section is absurd.
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i like this idea
1. The student section should be cutoff around row 15. But, to keep to same allocation, the student section section should extend out behind the basketball goals. And students should be crammed into floor seats behind the goals.
(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a279/mirak/bramdog.jpg)
2. New "premium" chairback seats should be installed on the east side above the student section. Boost ticket prices.
Same here. If anything is changed, this would be a good plan. The students would still be together and even closer to the floor. The seats would, for the most part, still be good and the only ones with 'bad' seats would be those on the extreme ends.
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i like this idea
1. The student section should be cutoff around row 15. But, to keep to same allocation, the student section section should extend out behind the basketball goals. And students should be crammed into floor seats behind the goals.
(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a279/mirak/bramdog.jpg)
2. New "premium" chairback seats should be installed on the east side above the student section. Boost ticket prices.
it sounds nice but i dont think too many big money people are going to pay to stand the whole game in order to see.
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They also get horrible seats
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i like this idea
1. The student section should be cutoff around row 15. But, to keep to same allocation, the student section section should extend out behind the basketball goals. And students should be crammed into floor seats behind the goals.
(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a279/mirak/bramdog.jpg)
2. New "premium" chairback seats should be installed on the east side above the student section. Boost ticket prices.
it sounds nice but i dont think too many big money people are going to pay to stand the whole game in order to see.
lol exactly my first thought. the way it is now, only a couple hundred people are subjected to being near the students, which I'm sure they're glad for.
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maybe you build an elevated level behind the students.
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The "cut student tickets for chairbacks" crowd needs to realize that we're not a commuter school and can't pack the 'bram for tuesday night games against iowa state. Manhattan's size limits us and the balance between student and reserved seats we have now suits us well, financially and audibly.
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I'm admittedly jealous of K-State's student section. It would have been awesome sitting in the equivalent of $100,000 seats for less than $200 a year.
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It might be nice to sit that close but the Fieldhouse is still the best and loudest place to watch a college basketball game. It is so funny how k-staters think that you guys have this great home court advantage when win one game against the #1 team in the nation. Whenever anyone talks about best atmosphere at a college b-ball game K-state is never brought up lol. It's always ku, Duke, Kentucky, Carolina. K-state is not even in the conversation.
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I'm admittedly jealous of K-State's student section. It would have been awesome sitting in the equivalent of $100,000 seats for less than $200 a year.
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As you should be, it's awesome.
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It might be nice to sit that close but the Fieldhouse is still the best and loudest place to watch a college basketball game. It is so funny how k-staters think that you guys have this great home court advantage when win one game against the #1 team in the nation. Whenever anyone talks about best atmosphere at a college b-ball game K-state is never brought up lol. It's always ku, Duke, Kentucky, Carolina. K-state is not even in the conversation.
This is the loudest arena we've seen all season
There. BTW, "The Phog" sounded like a morgue against Baylor.
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haha nice try! he didnt say it was the loudest. He said the most rowdy big difference! And it was not quiet at the Baylor game at all. There coaches had to write out plays on a dry erase board just so they could get set up. I know you k-staters are new to this whole camping and getting excited for basketball thing. But don't try to think to that you are better then your big bro to the east of you! Rock Chalk!!!
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There coaches had to write out plays on a dry erase board just so they could get set up.
This is a great point. Coaches commonly just tell their players verbally what to do in a set without drawing it up. Just look at the last shot for Jimmy Chitwood in Hoosiers as an example.
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haha nice try! he didnt say it was the loudest. He said the most rowdy big difference! And it was not quiet at the Baylor game at all. There coaches had to write out plays on a dry erase board just so they could get set up. I know you k-staters are new to this whole camping and getting excited for basketball thing. But don't try to think to that you are better then your big bro to the east of you! Rock Chalk!!!
Laugh Out Loud :lol: at not knowing coaches use dry-erase boards to write out plays. Play organized basketball much? Before dry-erase boards, they used small chalk boards. This has been going on for a very long time by the way.
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ku4life... :lol:
I mean...you're joking right?
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I'm not talking about during timeouts, they had to write out there play on the board during gametime action so they would know what play to run because it was to loud to call out the play!
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ku4Life... they hate ku. Reality is a distant memory for these people.
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Sure they can get more revenue next year, but this big demand for tickets didn't materialize until just a couple weeks ago. Making revenue projections is sort of a crapshoot right now.
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K-State folks were camping out at Ahearn Fieldhouse decades ago.
In Bramlage it's been so loud that the TV commentators just had to give up because they couldn't yell over the noise even with a microphone 1 inch from their mouth.
AFH is a freaking tennis match most of the time.
Ben quick question for you . . . how much love and admiration is K-State getting on phog.net or kusports.com or jayhawkslant??
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If you guys are so loud then how come no one in the college sports world is like wow i just got to go to Manhattan to watch a basketball game. Everyone wants to come to watch ku in the fieldhouse. O and you guys have been camping out for decades?? Why did you stop? Looks like you guys are just great fans!
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If you guys are so loud then how come no one in the college sports world is like wow i just got to go to Manhattan to watch a basketball game. Everyone wants to come to watch ku in the fieldhouse. O and you guys have been camping out for decades?? Why did you stop? Looks like you guys are just great fans!
Yea...why would something like Gameday want to come to Manhattan?
We are taking your attention. Jealousy noted.
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The only reason gameday is coming is because of ku! haha. Get back at me when gameday comes to Manhattan when you aren't playing ku! Might be waiting for awhile haha.
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Bramlage... such an intimidating force that ku has only lost there once in its entire existence.
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If you guys are so loud then how come no one in the college sports world is like wow i just got to go to Manhattan to watch a basketball game. Everyone wants to come to watch ku in the fieldhouse. O and you guys have been camping out for decades?? Why did you stop? Looks like you guys are just great fans!
Yes ku4life . . . nobody is talking about the crowds at K-State, nobody has ever talked about the crowds at K-State before just recently ever. :rolleyes:
In addition, we know how kutards operate, you literally beat people down and demand that they validate ku, and make sure they say over and over how going to a ku game was the greatest sporting experience of their lives. You see it again and again in press conferences, "coach can you affirm for us again what a great and fantastic atmosphere the Fieldhouse was tonight, and it really was the greatest moment of your life to play a game here wasn't it."
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Once again, the media is in love with us. We have no control over that. Direct your anger and jealousy somewhere else.
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Wake me up when K-State wins a Big 12 title and makes it past the 2nd round of the NCAA tournament.
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the funny thing here is that you are trying be all sarcastic making fun of the fieldhouse but actually that is true. A lot of players and coaches really do say that. Hey what about you guys camping again?? I thought you guys have been doing it for decades??? How come it just got picked up again this last week?
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Oh, oh, lets send the the lap dog ku beat guy from the LJWorld over to the phone and we'll get X oppossing team that's coming into the Fieldhouse to play on the line, and we'll ask all these leading questions to get them to affirm for us that they are just overwhelmed at the prospect of playing in the greatest basketball venue on earth.
Next up . . . we'll discuss the "smartest college football fans in the country" propaganda machine at Cornhole.
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The only reason gameday is coming is because of ku! haha. Get back at me when gameday comes to Manhattan when you aren't playing ku! Might be waiting for awhile haha.
If ku playing was all that mattered then how come they didn't just have it in Lawrence when ku plays Iowa State or some sh*t?
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haha nice try! he didnt say it was the loudest. He said the most rowdy big difference! And it was not quiet at the Baylor game at all. There coaches had to write out plays on a dry erase board just so they could get set up. I know you k-staters are new to this whole camping and getting excited for basketball thing. But don't try to think to that you are better then your big bro to the east of you! Rock Chalk!!!
Ignore the naysayers "ku4life". That atmosphere sounds incredible. What an absolute mecca of college basketball. A dry erase board you say??? Cuz it was so loud?? Speechless. Please post here more, TIA.
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It just picked up again last week ku4life for the same reason the top all time record crowd list for ku football stayed static for 30 years, and that ku football season ticket sales took 30 years to set a new record.
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Tell (insert visiting player name here) us about the glorious experience of playing in the Fieldhouse and remind us again how you didn't sleep for 8 weeks knowing that you'd be playing here tonight?
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we can't have it both ways, the demand for student tickets isn't that high either, I think it has only been full 2x- Big Monday and maybe one other time? There isn't enough demand to have that many student tickets, make it so student tickets sell out or are oversold. GA tickets are sold out for the rest of the season...I like the idea of putting the students around 1/2 the court in the lower 15 rows and behind the baskets, similar capacity for seating, but behind row 15 take out a row or two so people can see over the standing students.
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Tell (insert visiting player name here) us about the glorious experience of playing in the Fieldhouse and remind us again how you didn't sleep for 8 weeks knowing that you'd be playing here tonight?
Yeah... it's just one big conspiracy. Nothing special at all about playing at Allen Fieldhouse.
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It just picked up again last week ku4life for the same reason the top all time record crowd list for ku football stayed static for 30 years, and that ku football season ticket sales took 30 years to set a new record.
It picked up cause we started winning just like you guys. But the difference here is that our football fans arent saying wow we got the best and loudest stadium in the nation just because we sold more tickets. You have to be realistic. We only hold 50K. You guys are having one great year and all of a sudden you are the best and loudest fans in the nation. Remember who has won 53 games in a row at home compared to you guys at what 9?
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The only reason gameday is coming is because of ku! haha. Get back at me when gameday comes to Manhattan when you aren't playing ku! Might be waiting for awhile haha.
If ku playing was all that mattered then how come they didn't just have it in Lawrence when ku plays Iowa State or some sh*t?
Because Iowa State sucks.
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we can't have it both ways, the demand for student tickets isn't that high either, I think it has only been full 2x- Big Monday and maybe one other time? There isn't enough demand to have that many student tickets, make it so student tickets sell out or are oversold. GA tickets are sold out for the rest of the season...I like the idea of putting the students around 1/2 the court in the lower 15 rows and behind the baskets, similar capacity for seating, but behind row 15 take out a row or two so people can see over the standing students.
Sounds like Michigan State's or Oregon's coliseum. Which is terrible btw. Anything else you would like to do to ruin the atmosphere that's been getting so much attention from the media?
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The only reason gameday is coming is because of ku! haha. Get back at me when gameday comes to Manhattan when you aren't playing ku! Might be waiting for awhile haha.
If ku playing was all that mattered then how come they didn't just have it in Lawrence when ku plays Iowa State or some sh*t?
Because Iowa State sucks.
Thanks for proving my point, dipsh*t. They aren't coming to Manhattan JUST for ku.
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Yes ku4life that's it . . . for example in 2008 when the place was sold out everybody just sat on their ass and didn't make a sound, nor in 2007. In fact prior to that, when K-State basketball even remotely hinted that it may actually do something decent . . . nobody made a peep. It was only this year that suddenly everybody got really loud and we decided that we had a great crowd. :rolleyes:
Coach (insert visiting team coach name here) tell us about how you dreamed about playing in the Fieldhouse and how you were just in awe of the entire experience (UDK cup reporter).
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Why didnt they come to Manhattan for another Big 12 team then??? If this arena of yours is so loud and great I think the whole country would just be so excited to see you guys in action against any team??
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Try selling out Bramlage for more than two or three games a year... then we'll talk.
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Try selling out Bramlage for more than two or three games a year... then we'll talk.
BMWJhawk-- Exactly what I was gonna say. Before this year you guys were never talking about how loud and great Bramlage was. And yes before you didnt sell out against other big 12 teams. I can recall watching many games where there were empty seats everywhere.
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Why didnt they come to Manhattan for another Big 12 team then??? If this arena of yours is so loud and great I think the whole country would just be so excited to see you guys in action against any team??
Classic dumbass kutard logic?
ESPN slobbers all over Duke's knob . . . why doesn't gameday show up unless they're playing UNC??
Ohio State has one of the greatest college football atmospheres in the country everytime they play in Columbus . . . why does college football gameday only show up if their playing USC or another marquee team??
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Try selling out Bramlage for more than two or three games a year... then we'll talk.
BMWJhawk-- Exactly what I was gonna say. Before this year you guys were never talking about how loud and great Bramlage was.
"Bramlage is louder than Allen Field House"- Chris Piper during the K-State vs. Mizzou game in 2007
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Try selling out Bramlage for more than two or three games a year... then we'll talk.
The entire 2007-2008 season was sold out, every conference game this year has sold out, 9 out of the final 10 home games of the season have sold out, the other game against a nobody had over 10,000 on a $hitty weather day during winter break.
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Why didnt they come to Manhattan for another Big 12 team then??? If this arena of yours is so loud and great I think the whole country would just be so excited to see you guys in action against any team??
Classic dumbass kutard logic?
ESPN slobbers all over Duke's knob . . . why doesn't gameday show up unless they're playing UNC??
Ohio State has one of the greatest college football atmosphere's in the country everytime they play in Columbus . . . why does college football gameday only show up if their playing USC or another marquee team??
Those are all great rivalries. You can't call ku-K-state a great rivalry unless you want to talk about ku beating you every time except for twice in 25 years. I think its gonna be quite humorous on gameday when they start talking about how ku has just owned the series especially recently. I mean its obvious that gameday wants to see the Hawks and this was the only time that would work. BTW. ku has hosted gameday agaist Texas and A&M before. Come talk to me when you guys host gameday against someone other than ku!
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Man ku fans are annoying. You guys still upset Baylor didn't slob your knob during your highlight video the other night?
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Is it true that the longest homecourt winning streak at Bramlage is 14 games?
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BACK ON TOPIC:
I hope Currie turns out to be the kind of ruthless ball cutter that Lew Perkins is. I hope Currie jacks up the prices for tickets and parking next year. And I hope he moves the students to the ends of the coliseum and opens up a new premium seating area in its place.
KSU will always be middling and "never have nice things" until it puts on it's big-boy pants and slaps the alumns with the cold, hard realities of increasing revenue. I simply can't believe all of the posters here (not all of them) who want Martin to get a pay raise but don't want to pay for it personally. That's not how the world works. (I could go on a political rant here, but this isn't the place...)
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BACK ON TOPIC:
I hope Currie turns out to be the kind of ruthless ball cutter that Lew Perkins is. I hope Currie jacks up the prices for tickets and parking next year. And I hope he moves the students to the ends of the coliseum and opens up a new premium seating area in its place.
KSU will always be middling and "never have nice things" until it puts on it's big-boy pants and slaps the alumns with the cold, hard realities of increasing revenue. I simply can't believe all of the posters here (not all of them) who want Martin to get a pay raise but don't want to pay for it personally. That's not how the world works. (I could go on a political rant here, but this isn't the place...)
which ones are complaining but not willing to pay? i want a list.
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http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=1974962
That article is from 2005 before you guys were such the powerhouse in basketball. I'm still looking for K-state and Bramlage on that list. But yet every single person has the fieldhouse on there list.
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BACK ON TOPIC:
I hope Currie turns out to be the kind of ruthless ball cutter that Lew Perkins is. I hope Currie jacks up the prices for tickets and parking next year. And I hope he moves the students to the ends of the coliseum and opens up a new premium seating area in its place.
KSU will always be middling and "never have nice things" until it puts on it's big-boy pants and slaps the alumns with the cold, hard realities of increasing revenue. I simply can't believe all of the posters here (not all of them) who want Martin to get a pay raise but don't want to pay for it personally. That's not how the world works. (I could go on a political rant here, but this isn't the place...)
which ones are complaining but not willing to pay? i want a list.
I haven't been keeping a list, and I don't know who donates, but some of the posters in this thread who don't want to give up prime student seating, for example.
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what a miserable thread.
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You comparison has nothing to do with nothing ku4life.
Please read back through my posts and tell me just where I mentioned anything about a "great rivalry" vis a vis K-State vis ku . . . good luck.
But I do love the phogtard spin . . . ESPN college basketball gameday couldn't have possibly found any other day to "fit" a stop for a game with Kansas in, except for the game at K-State. Whatever you need to make yourselves feel better I guess. By my count, since the gameday tour started this year, ku will playe 6 Saturday games NOT against K-State . . . but K-State is the only one that would "work".
Just admit it, you and the rest of phog, just like Ben are extremely pissed off that K-State is getting so much publicity . . . you can't stand it, and that's why you are here in full blown kutard validation and affirmation mode.
The same thing happened when Snyder was winning all those games in football, you, Jayhoax and the 7 other phogtards who bothered to pay attention to football were absolutely out of your minds with rage.
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BACK ON TOPIC:
I hope Currie turns out to be the kind of ruthless ball cutter that Lew Perkins is. I hope Currie jacks up the prices for tickets and parking next year. And I hope he moves the students to the ends of the coliseum and opens up a new premium seating area in its place.
KSU will always be middling and "never have nice things" until it puts on it's big-boy pants and slaps the alumns with the cold, hard realities of increasing revenue. I simply can't believe all of the posters here (not all of them) who want Martin to get a pay raise but don't want to pay for it personally. That's not how the world works. (I could go on a political rant here, but this isn't the place...)
Yeah I'd personally pay a sh*tload to keep Martin. But I'm not going to support changing our student section and ruining the OOD atmosphere thats been getting so much national attention lately.
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FACT: STUDENTS CAN'T GET CRAZY IN AN END ZONE
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They can, it'd just be like every other school in the Big 12. But who wants to be original? We should change everything about our school to make it just like Nebraska.
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BACK ON TOPIC:
I hope Currie turns out to be the kind of ruthless ball cutter that Lew Perkins is. I hope Currie jacks up the prices for tickets and parking next year. And I hope he moves the students to the ends of the coliseum and opens up a new premium seating area in its place.
KSU will always be middling and "never have nice things" until it puts on it's big-boy pants and slaps the alumns with the cold, hard realities of increasing revenue. I simply can't believe all of the posters here (not all of them) who want Martin to get a pay raise but don't want to pay for it personally. That's not how the world works. (I could go on a political rant here, but this isn't the place...)
which ones are complaining but not willing to pay? i want a list.
I haven't been keeping a list, and I don't know who donates, but some of the posters in this thread who don't want to give up prime student seating, for example.
but did these posters also want martin to get a pay raise? did you crosscheck this?
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If this continues, they need to look at expanding the seating . I suspect moving the walls back a few feet is possible and adding another couple of rows of seats around most of the top is possible, but they'd have to also re-do the concourses as well to make up for the lost space.
They also need to look at putting in portable seating at the top of the tunnel that can be folded back when they don't need it, but brought down when they do for games.
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BACK ON TOPIC:
I hope Currie turns out to be the kind of ruthless ball cutter that Lew Perkins is. I hope Currie jacks up the prices for tickets and parking next year. And I hope he moves the students to the ends of the coliseum and opens up a new premium seating area in its place.
KSU will always be middling and "never have nice things" until it puts on it's big-boy pants and slaps the alumns with the cold, hard realities of increasing revenue. I simply can't believe all of the posters here (not all of them) who want Martin to get a pay raise but don't want to pay for it personally. That's not how the world works. (I could go on a political rant here, but this isn't the place...)
which ones are complaining but not willing to pay? i want a list.
I haven't been keeping a list, and I don't know who donates, but some of the posters in this thread who don't want to give up prime student seating, for example.
but did these posters also want martin to get a pay raise? did you crosscheck this?
Good point. I'm running a program right now to cross-check. Also, I'll spend the weekend hacking into the Alumni Association's database to find out which posters actually donate. No more pretending here, folks...
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You comparison has nothing to do with nothing ku4life.
Please read back through my posts and tell me just where I mentioned anything about a "great rivalry" vis a vis K-State vis ku . . . good luck.
But I do love the phogtard spin . . . ESPN college basketball gameday couldn't have possibly found any other day to "fit" a stop for a game with Kansas in, except for the game at K-State. Whatever you need to make yourselves feel better I guess. By my count, since the gameday tour started this year, ku will playe 6 Saturday games NOT against K-State . . . but K-State is the only one that would "work".
Just admit it, you and the rest of phog, just like Ben are extremely pissed off that K-State is getting so much publicity . . . you can't stand it, and that's why you are here in full blown kutard validation and affirmation mode.
The same thing happened when Snyder was winning all those games in football, you, Jayhoax and the 7 other phogtards who bothered to pay attention to football were absolutely out of your minds with rage.
I could care less if you guys are good this year. Because this is your best team in a long time and we are still better haha! Until you guys win just 1 Big 12 title just 1 then we might start comparing a little bit. I mean we have won 5 in a row so if you win one then that would be impressive. I just cant stand it when you guys think you are so good because you are having one good year. Win about 50 conference title and about 5 National Championships and then we will talk about who is better.
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BACK ON TOPIC:
I hope Currie turns out to be the kind of ruthless ball cutter that Lew Perkins is. I hope Currie jacks up the prices for tickets and parking next year. And I hope he moves the students to the ends of the coliseum and opens up a new premium seating area in its place.
KSU will always be middling and "never have nice things" until it puts on it's big-boy pants and slaps the alumns with the cold, hard realities of increasing revenue. I simply can't believe all of the posters here (not all of them) who want Martin to get a pay raise but don't want to pay for it personally. That's not how the world works. (I could go on a political rant here, but this isn't the place...)
which ones are complaining but not willing to pay? i want a list.
I haven't been keeping a list, and I don't know who donates, but some of the posters in this thread who don't want to give up prime student seating, for example.
but did these posters also want martin to get a pay raise? did you crosscheck this?
Good point. I'm running a program right now to cross-check. Also, I'll spend the weekend hacking into the Alumni Association's database to find out which posters actually donate. No more pretending here, folks...
i guess i just figured that the overall condescending/belittling tone of your post combined with the usage of the phrase "all of the posters here" probably meant that there was at least one person fitting into your imagined little category. must have misunderstood or something. good luck on the alumni association database hacking thing though. let me know if you have any luck.
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You comparison has nothing to do with nothing ku4life.
Please read back through my posts and tell me just where I mentioned anything about a "great rivalry" vis a vis K-State vis ku . . . good luck.
But I do love the phogtard spin . . . ESPN college basketball gameday couldn't have possibly found any other day to "fit" a stop for a game with Kansas in, except for the game at K-State. Whatever you need to make yourselves feel better I guess. By my count, since the gameday tour started this year, ku will playe 6 Saturday games NOT against K-State . . . but K-State is the only one that would "work".
Just admit it, you and the rest of phog, just like Ben are extremely pissed off that K-State is getting so much publicity . . . you can't stand it, and that's why you are here in full blown kutard validation and affirmation mode.
The same thing happened when Snyder was winning all those games in football, you, Jayhoax and the 7 other phogtards who bothered to pay attention to football were absolutely out of your minds with rage.
I could care less if you guys are good this year. Because this is your best team in a long time and we are still better haha! Until you guys win just 1 Big 12 title just 1 then we might start comparing a little bit. I mean we have won 5 in a row so if you win one then that would be impressive. I just cant stand it when you guys think you are so good because you are having one good year. Win about 50 conference title and about 5 National Championships and then we will talk about who is better.
Then why are you here??
Plus, when have I compared anything to ku in this thread, and frankly ever said K-State basketball was on par with ku??
You're response only proves my point . . . you are absolutely beside yourself with rage that K-State is getting so much publicity right now. You clearly are carrying your rage towards the retards from kstatefans or gopowercat, or your boss the K-State alum out on us.
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You comparison has nothing to do with nothing ku4life.
Please read back through my posts and tell me just where I mentioned anything about a "great rivalry" vis a vis K-State vis ku . . . good luck.
But I do love the phogtard spin . . . ESPN college basketball gameday couldn't have possibly found any other day to "fit" a stop for a game with Kansas in, except for the game at K-State. Whatever you need to make yourselves feel better I guess. By my count, since the gameday tour started this year, ku will playe 6 Saturday games NOT against K-State . . . but K-State is the only one that would "work".
Just admit it, you and the rest of phog, just like Ben are extremely pissed off that K-State is getting so much publicity . . . you can't stand it, and that's why you are here in full blown kutard validation and affirmation mode.
The same thing happened when Snyder was winning all those games in football, you, Jayhoax and the 7 other phogtards who bothered to pay attention to football were absolutely out of your minds with rage.
I could care less if you guys are good this year. Because this is your best team in a long time and we are still better haha! Until you guys win just 1 Big 12 title just 1 then we might start comparing a little bit. I mean we have won 5 in a row so if you win one then that would be impressive. I just cant stand it when you guys think you are so good because you are having one good year. Win about 50 conference title and about 5 National Championships and then we will talk about who is better.
Then why are you here??
Plus, when have I compared anything to ku in this thread, and frankly ever said K-State basketball was on par with ku??
You're response only proves my point . . . you are absolutely beside yourself with rage that K-State is getting so much publicity right now. You clearly are carrying your rage towards the retards from kstatefans or gopowercat, or your boss the K-State alum out on us.
You guys are talkin trash on the fieldhouse. Saying Bramlage is way louder and better when I think we all know that is false. Rock Chalk to Allen Fieldhouse the greatest college basketball arena in the nation. 53 in a row just doesn't happen by chance!
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I could care less if you guys are good this year. Because this is your best team in a long time and we are still better haha! Until you guys win just 1 Big 12 title just 1 then we might start comparing a little bit. I mean we have won 5 in a row so if you win one then that would be impressive. I just cant stand it when you guys think you are so good because you are having one good year. Win about 50 conference title and about 5 National Championships and then we will talk about who is better.
Then why are you here??
Plus, when have I compared anything to ku in this thread, and frankly ever said K-State basketball was on par with ku??
You're response only proves my point . . . you are absolutely beside yourself with rage that K-State is getting so much publicity right now. You clearly are carrying your rage towards the retards from kstatefans or gopowercat, or your boss the K-State alum out on us.
We just wanted to come over here and tell you we don't care. We don't care at all. Just wanted to come spend some time telling you how much we don't care.
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Wow, I never knew what a complete tard ku4life was until now.
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Wow, I never knew what a complete tard ku4life was until now.
how is that? because you guys think you guys are finally good because your in the top ten but yet again the one year that you are actually good your big bro still is better. gosh it must suck! haha
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Wow, I never knew what a complete tard ku4life was until now.
how is that? because you guys think you guys are finally good because your in the top ten but yet again the one year that you are actually good your big bro still is better. gosh it must suck! haha
We need an emot that yawns really big.
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Wow, I never knew what a complete tard ku4life was until now.
how is that? because you guys think you guys are finally good because your in the top ten but yet again the one year that you are actually good your big bro still is better. gosh it must suck! haha
This thread was about K-State basketball generating more revenue . . . then you and the other ku tard showed up, gave us example 1,256,789 how thin skinned ku bandwagoners are . . . and then you proved what a complete tard you are.
Nothing else needs to be said.
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without cash to pay a staff = 1992 KSU basketball.
Sorry students, you may pay a high price, but you also sit mid-court. Make everyone happy, move the students to the end with cheaper tix, sell midcourt tix at a premium, sell a reduced number of student tix at midcourt at a premium (or at the same price but FCFS), move the media to the other end (tunnel) and be done.
Let's just get rid of the students. Who needs a good atmosphere when there's a chance to make money?
Maybe we should just take the argument to the logical extreme and make the whole thing student section and kick out the people who actually pay the bills so we can get extra, super duper loud. So, loud that Frank and staff decide to work for minimum wage just because they like the super duper loudness.
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Can't believe I let this thread get to 4 pages before chiming in with this
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Please keep letting students sit in $100,000 seats. I love the fact that ku generates almost twice as much revenue as K-State.
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Twice as much revenue as K-State would be $94.78 million dollars Ben. ku athletics generated $70.6 million dollars in revenue in FY 2009.
I guess if "nearly twice as much" means $23.18 million less than "twice as much" than you've got a point.
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Why do you guys let trolls wreck so many threads around here?