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Sports => Snyder's Electronic Cyber Space World => Topic started by: mikeycat on December 21, 2009, 05:24:00 PM
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Cosh is the new sole DC.
KSU will hire a secondary coach in the next few days according to Bill.
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Cosh is the new sole DC.
KSU will hire a secondary coach in the next few days according to Bill.
This will return:
:steadymobbin':
:kstatriot: :ksu:
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Are we going to get a special teams coach for next season as well?
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:-X
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jfc. may Allah help us all.
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welcome back 04/05 defense.
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:woohoo: :excited: :dancin: :santachimney: :suicideispainless:
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/cs
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would think that Cosh coordinated the D in 04/05, though I will admit most of us would like to block Bobby Elliott from our memories.
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welcome back 04/05 defense.
To be fair, this year pretty much was the equivalent of our '04 and '05 defenses (40th overall).
Those defenses were ranked 43rd and 45th in total D, respectively, and just seemed a lot worst than they actually were given the fact we were ranked in the top 6 for seven years in a row prior to that.
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welcome back 04/05 defense.
To be fair, this year pretty much was the equivalent of our '04 and '05 defenses (40th overall).
Those defenses were ranked 43rd and 45th in total D, respectively, and just seemed a lot worst than they actually were given the fact we were ranked in the top 6 for seven years in a row prior to that.
Completely retarded statement.
Actually, the last place losers of 04' - 05' were much closer to 07' - 08' in points allowed, at the end of the day, the only defensive stat that matters.
By all means post-rationalize this bush league move to promote Cosh to sole DC, though. I expect nothing less, Special.
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I'm not anti-Cosh just yet. DON'T MAKE ME REGRET THIS COSH!
:steadymobbin':
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:sport028:
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couple of things on cosh:
1 - he's been soley responsible for, at best, average defenses. been part of horrible and average defenses at ksu.
2 - who the hell has he recruited in his 3+ years at KSU (that wasn't directly related to him, and even the, gmafb)?
conclusion: sucksville and Cosh is the mayor.
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The lug nuts on the wheels are becoming loose. I will just hope that Cosh had a "I could've had a V8 moment" - smacked his forehead when he heard VK's pearls of wisdom and has become awesome.
It is overall a little depressing that with the news that OBz was returning - I got a little worked up with the OC from Utah and VK on the D and kind of :excited: but now we are reduced to Cosh and Dimel. and now I am more :crybaby:
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I've seen this f- ucking movie before and the ending sucks.
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welcome back 04/05 defense.
To be fair, this year pretty much was the equivalent of our '04 and '05 defenses (40th overall).
Those defenses were ranked 43rd and 45th in total D, respectively, and just seemed a lot worst than they actually were given the fact we were ranked in the top 6 for seven years in a row prior to that.
Completely retarded statement.
Actually, the last place losers of 04' - 05' were much closer to 07' - 08' in points allowed, at the end of the day, the only defensive stat that matters.
By all means post-rationalize this bush league move to promote Cosh to sole DC, though. I expect nothing less, Special.
This. 30+ PPG both years I think.
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also, is there any way this guy doesn't smell like aqua velva, rogaine and shame?
(http://vmedia.rivals.com/IMAGES/Coach/PHOTO/CHRIS-COSH.JPG)
i guarantee that he low balled us to. b. cosh was like no commit if my dad doesn't get d-coord job. snyds panicked. so yeah the cosh's totally f^cked us.
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welcome back 04/05 defense.
To be fair, this year pretty much was the equivalent of our '04 and '05 defenses (40th overall).
Those defenses were ranked 43rd and 45th in total D, respectively, and just seemed a lot worst than they actually were given the fact we were ranked in the top 6 for seven years in a row prior to that.
Completely retarded statement.
Actually, the last place losers of 04' - 05' were much closer to 07' - 08' in points allowed, at the end of the day, the only defensive stat that matters.
By all means post-rationalize this bush league move to promote Cosh to sole DC, though. I expect nothing less, Special.
Neither statement is completely accurate.
04- 28 ppg 360 ypg
05- 31 ppg 350 ypg
07- 31 ppg 401 ypg
08- 36 ppg 479 ypg
09- 23 ppg 340 ypg
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welcome back 04/05 defense.
To be fair, this year pretty much was the equivalent of our '04 and '05 defenses (40th overall).
Those defenses were ranked 43rd and 45th in total D, respectively, and just seemed a lot worst than they actually were given the fact we were ranked in the top 6 for seven years in a row prior to that.
Completely retarded statement.
Actually, the last place losers of 04' - 05' were much closer to 07' - 08' in points allowed, at the end of the day, the only defensive stat that matters.
By all means post-rationalize this bush league move to promote Cosh to sole DC, though. I expect nothing less, Special.
Neither statement is completely accurate.
04- 28 ppg 360 ypg GARBAGE DIVISION
05- 31 ppg 350 ypg GARBAGE DIVISION
07- 31 ppg 401 ypg
08- 36 ppg 479 ypg
09- 23 ppg 340 ypg
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welcome back 04/05 defense.
To be fair, this year pretty much was the equivalent of our '04 and '05 defenses (40th overall).
Those defenses were ranked 43rd and 45th in total D, respectively, and just seemed a lot worst than they actually were given the fact we were ranked in the top 6 for seven years in a row prior to that.
Completely retarded statement.
Actually, the last place losers of 04' - 05' were much closer to 07' - 08' in points allowed, at the end of the day, the only defensive stat that matters.
By all means post-rationalize this bush league move to promote Cosh to sole DC, though. I expect nothing less, Special.
Neither statement is completely accurate.
04- 28 ppg 360 ypg
05- 31 ppg 350 ypg
07- 31 ppg 401 ypg
08- 36 ppg 479 ypg
09- 23 ppg 340 ypg
Looks pretty accurate to me.
And Vic made the 09' leap from an 08' defense that statistically was one of the worst in school histroy and all of Div. 1 football last year.
The Bobby Elliot/Cosh two year debacle came off of a fracking Big XII Title.
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This, this all seems so familar . . . its deja vu all over again.
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This, this all seems so familar . . . its deja vu all over again.
The Old Gang is BACK!!! Mediocraty has returned to "calm the waters" $h!t - if this is calming the waters, we are FCKED!!!
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This, this all seems so familar . . . its deja vu all over again.
I almost remember like yesterday the tards were saying we wouldn't miss a beat with Bobby Elliot after Bielema cut and ran for Wisconsin.
Weird. :scared:
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If you look at overall ppg given up, the '04 defense gave up 30.6 which was the worst since fracking 1989 (31.7). And the '05 defense gave up 27.7 which outside of 04 was the worst since 1989. and that was all before offenses actually started putting up insane numbers league wide. cosh is dogsh*t and snyds is dogsh*t for allowing dogsh*t coaches like Cosh, Clements, Del, Smith, Mo, and even Rahne back onto his staff after they wrecked it the first time around. I half expect Snyds to name Greg Peterson as DB coach.
Merry Christmas (http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/weihnachten/xmas-smiley-040.gif)
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But he's learned his lesson . . . come on everybody.
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Eff it, let's go ahead and bring Elliot back.
Might as well complete the circle and at least it would provide some comedy and speed up Snyder's second retirement.
:bballonlyfan:
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Completely retarded statement.
Actually, the last place losers of 04' - 05' were much closer to 07' - 08' in points allowed, at the end of the day, the only defensive stat that matters.
By all means post-rationalize this bush league move to promote Cosh to sole DC, though. I expect nothing less, Special.
No that's not the only defensive stat that matters and if you knew an ounce about football you would understand how retarded that statement was.
This year our TOP was second nationally. Yes, second. In '05 we were 49, as a basis for comparison. That means that this season we ran the ball, kept our offense on the field, kept our defense off and let them rest, allowing fewer possessions for the opponent to score on us with, a luxury those '04 and '05 defenses didn't have, and, despite that, those '04 and '05 defenses were comparable to this year's in total yards allowed.
The high point totals given up in '04 and '05 were more a result of the large amounts of turnovers given up and in inopportune locations on the field than the defense allowing it. Like remember how in '04 we couldn't field a punt to save our lives (Sproles with multiple muffs), interceptions/fumbles in our own territory, punts/kickoffs returned for TDs, etc.
Like, what if in 2005, we were ranked 107th in yards penalized or 104th in turnovers lost (28 total) or 112th in fumbles lost (tied for 2nd last in NCAA at 16 fumbles), all things allowing the other team to score more easily despite having little to do with our defense's performance.
Completely bush league statement by Wabashroll.
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The only defensive stat that matters is points allowed.
The others are fun to look at, sure.
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The only defensive stat that matters is points allowed.
The others are fun to look at, sure.
And it doesn't tell the whole story either. What if we punted the ball 7 times and 4 times it got returned for a TD, allowing 28 points, but our defense only gave up 3 points in the game and 100 yards total.
That would mean our D gave up 3 points and 100 total yards, a great defensive performance, but the score would read that there were 31 points allowed, 28 of which had nothing to do with defense and everything to do with special teams.
It's why total yards is the used as the measuring stick for total defense and not points allowed.
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the best defenses allow the least amount of points. (non-offensive, of course)
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Good defenses do allow few points but the statistic "points allowed" as it's recorded isn't always a reflection of that.
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welcome back 04/05 defense.
To be fair, this year pretty much was the equivalent of our '04 and '05 defenses (40th overall).
Those defenses were ranked 43rd and 45th in total D, respectively, and just seemed a lot worst than they actually were given the fact we were ranked in the top 6 for seven years in a row prior to that.
Completely retarded statement.
Actually, the last place losers of 04' - 05' were much closer to 07' - 08' in points allowed, at the end of the day, the only defensive stat that matters.
By all means post-rationalize this bush league move to promote Cosh to sole DC, though. I expect nothing less, Special.
Neither statement is completely accurate.
04- 28 ppg 360 ypg GARBAGE DIVISION
05- 31 ppg 350 ypg GARBAGE DIVISION
07- 31 ppg 401 ypg
08- 36 ppg 479 ypg
09- 23 ppg 340 ypg
You trying to say that the North's offenses were worse in 04 and 05 than they were in 09? Mizzou was the only team in the north that really scored points at a decent rate once conference play began this year.
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Good defenses do allow few points but the statistic "points allowed" as it's recorded isn't always a reflection of that.
Thanks for the hfbiq breakdown, Special_K. Because, the dominant K-State defenses of the 90's that never gave up points just appeared to be pretty good because our special teams were able to stop punt and kick-off returns.
Hey, by the way, is Cosh a good DC or not? I get confused because the post rationalization to defend Snyder seems to change daily. Last week we needed "new blood". Now, not so much.........
Remember this?
Let's be honest did anyone on this site honestly believe Vic was the long-term solution to our defense?
Not saying Cosh is, but Vic wasn't exactly tearing it up on the recruiting trail and the fundamentals our defensive staff taught the same players that Tibs did such a shbt-azz job on was more responsible for our improvement on defense than any play-calling by Vic.
We desperately need some young blood on the staff with this hire, though.
Weird.
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I've seen this f- ucking movie before and the ending sucks.
How stupid are you bastards? Give me Cosh over Tibesar and the colored guy anyday of the week.
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I've seen this f- ucking movie before and the ending sucks.
How stupid are you bastards? Give me Cosh over Tibesar and the colored guy anyday of the week.
:nono:
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Thanks for the hfbiq breakdown, Special_K. Because, the dominant K-State defenses of the 90's that never gave up points just appeared to be pretty good because our special teams were able to stop punt and kick-off returns.
Hey, by the way, is Cosh a good DC or not? I get confused because the post rationalization to defend Snyder seems to change daily. Last week we needed "new blood". Now, not so much.........
LOL, if you're trying to even compare anything we've put on the field defensively the last 6 six years to our DOD defenses then you are further out there than even I'd initially thought.
As for Cosh, where did I ever say he was the solution? Post rationalization? LOL, I was merely pointing out that it's ludicrous to try to say this season's defense was any better than those '04 and '05 defenses, which it wasn't.
I stand by my statement that what this staff needs is young blood for recruiting. I'm not sold on Cosh yet, but I don't think the guy is nearly as bad at Xs and Os and player development as some would believe, but none of it will mean a lick of we don't continue to improve in recruiting on that side of the ball.