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Title: Kevin Sumlin
Post by: BMWJhawk on November 17, 2009, 02:23:04 PM
My #1 choice for the next ku football coach. 



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Title: Re: Kevin Sumlin
Post by: Pete on November 17, 2009, 02:23:44 PM
Would be HUGE for ku.

BTW, you are of the opinion that Mangino is gone, correct?
Title: Re: Kevin Sumlin
Post by: Dirty Sanchez on November 17, 2009, 02:24:07 PM
Not going to happen.
Title: Re: Kevin Sumlin
Post by: jmlynch1 on November 17, 2009, 02:25:34 PM
Is anyone able to get on Phog or is it broken?
Title: Re: Kevin Sumlin
Post by: steve dave on November 17, 2009, 02:26:32 PM
Great hire if they get that done.  I'm so f^cking jealous that ku gets to have a legit coaching search run by people who aren't old and who don't have my best interests at heart.  
Title: Re: Kevin Sumlin
Post by: RonLongshaft on November 17, 2009, 02:29:09 PM
black coaches don't work  :-X
Title: Re: Kevin Sumlin
Post by: CaptainCrap on November 17, 2009, 02:31:43 PM
Better hope you never play UTEP or Central Florida...
Title: Re: Kevin Sumlin
Post by: Jeffrey_Martin on November 17, 2009, 02:32:16 PM
Not going to happen, and yes, I've asked about this. Coogs are loaded, and Keenum has another year. If they go undefeated or have one less next year, he'll have his choice of jobs.
Title: Re: Kevin Sumlin
Post by: Pete on November 17, 2009, 02:33:35 PM
Not going to happen, and yes, I've asked about this. Coogs are loaded, and Keenum has another year. If they go undefeated or have one less next year, he'll have his choice of jobs.

Depending on how the dominoes fall, he may well have his pick THIS year.
Title: Re: Kevin Sumlin
Post by: The42Yardstick on November 17, 2009, 02:39:13 PM
Why the hell would anyone wanna stay at Cougar High? That'd be an awesome hire for us :love: :love: :love:
Title: Re: Kevin Sumlin
Post by: ksuno1stunner on November 17, 2009, 02:42:18 PM
wonder how he would get along with self.  might be awkward iyam
Title: Re: Kevin Sumlin
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 17, 2009, 02:45:46 PM
Poor Ben . . . he's gone from defending Mangino at every turn just a mere 3 months ago, consistantly repeating the same mantra of NCOY/Orange Bowl/a 4 or 5 TD win in Manhattan . . . to telling us who he wishes will replace Mangino.

Karma . . . Irony??

Tough break kid . . .

Title: Re: Kevin Sumlin
Post by: BMWJhawk on November 17, 2009, 02:50:12 PM
Would be HUGE for ku.

BTW, you are of the opinion that Mangino is gone, correct?



Yep.  It looks like it's all but official at this point.




 :dancin:
Title: Re: Kevin Sumlin
Post by: catzacker on November 17, 2009, 02:58:51 PM
if not Sumlin, who's next?

p.s. stay the hell away from Venzy.
Title: Re: Kevin Sumlin
Post by: Pete on November 17, 2009, 03:01:51 PM
if not Sumlin, who's next?

p.s. stay the hell away from Venzy.

I haven't even been willing to joke about that.... :curse:
Title: Re: Kevin Sumlin
Post by: Dirty Sanchez on November 17, 2009, 03:02:01 PM
if not Sumlin, who's next?

p.s. stay the hell away from Venzy.

Must be prince.  He remembers seeing the fan club he has in lawrence.
Title: Re: Kevin Sumlin
Post by: wildcat79 on November 17, 2009, 03:14:22 PM
Yep, I vote for Prince!
Title: Re: Kevin Sumlin
Post by: WillieWannabe on November 17, 2009, 03:17:56 PM
would be a good hire. His defense has come under fire this year though, not sure if that's his fault or not.
Title: Re: Kevin Sumlin
Post by: BMWJhawk on November 17, 2009, 03:19:29 PM
Poor Ben . . . he's gone from defending Mangino at every turn just a mere 3 months ago, consistantly repeating the same mantra of NCOY/Orange Bowl/a 4 or 5 TD win in Manhattan . . . to telling us who he wishes will replace Mangino.

Karma . . . Irony??

Tough break kid . . .





I wanted to believe.... I really did.  I've never been a huge Mangino fan, though.  It's actually a pretty exciting time for me right now.  Could you imagine if ku was able to get Sumlin?



 :love:
Title: if not KS
Post by: The Kaiser on November 17, 2009, 03:27:27 PM
then I understand the list of backups includes Les Miles, Urban Meyer and Pete Carroll. 

Get real, please.  Why would Kevin Sumlin take ku at this point?  Maryland, Florida State, Virginia, Notre Dame, Colorado, Illinois, Louisville...all those jobs are going to open up, and when they do, the dominoes are going to start to fall.  Just an example, but Notre Dame is talking a ton about Bob Stoops...Sumlin could easily be on the OU short list.  Oh, and just an opinion here, but all of those jobs are better than ku.  Plus, ku is "outing" a guy who just won NCOY and a BCS bowl...not exactly "attractive" at this point.
Title: Re: Kevin Sumlin
Post by: Ameroogie on November 17, 2009, 03:33:55 PM
Turner Gill.
Title: Re: Kevin Sumlin
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 17, 2009, 03:36:15 PM
Poor Ben . . . he's gone from defending Mangino at every turn just a mere 3 months ago, consistantly repeating the same mantra of NCOY/Orange Bowl/a 4 or 5 TD win in Manhattan . . . to telling us who he wishes will replace Mangino.

Karma . . . Irony??

Tough break kid . . .





I wanted to believe.... I really did.  I've never been a huge Mangino fan, though.  It's actually a pretty exciting time for me right now.  Could you imagine if ku was able to get Sumlin?



 :love:

Sure it would be exciting, but I also remember watching gametracker as Sumlin's team gave up 600 yards of total offense to UTEP.   The guys running Gametracker could barely keep up.

Thing is, Houston has plenty of money, and right now football is king on that campus . . . I bet Sumlin holds out for another year with what he has returning and then parlays that into a huge new contract or moves on.





Title: Re: Kevin Sumlin
Post by: novembereleven on November 17, 2009, 03:39:29 PM
Someone, not partaking in hallucinogens, on the other board mentioned the early short list as Skip Holtz and Randy Edsell.  Holtz was the head coach at UCONN prior to Edsell.

Either would be logical, safe and very average hires.  
Title: Re: Kevin Sumlin
Post by: pissclams on November 17, 2009, 03:42:21 PM
LOL @ early short list
Title: Re: Kevin Sumlin
Post by: Fledermaus on November 17, 2009, 03:44:57 PM
Art Briles was 9-3 and 8-4 at UH in the two years before Sumlin.  Beat a couple decent, but over-rated teams, and lost to a couple of mediocre teams.  Seems to be a good coach, but it's not like he suddenly created a monster from nothing.
Title: Re: Kevin Sumlin
Post by: Bookcat on November 17, 2009, 03:45:58 PM
LOL @ early short list

ku fans should take their first 5 targets, write them down...crumple up the paper and start with a new list not using those 5.
Title: Re: Kevin Sumlin
Post by: BMWJhawk on November 17, 2009, 03:50:47 PM
Someone, not partaking in hallucinogens, on the other board mentioned the early short list as Skip Holtz and Randy Edsell.  Holtz was the head coach at UCONN prior to Edsell.

Either would be logical, safe and very average hires.  





LOL.  I can literally smell the fear. 
Title: Re: Kevin Sumlin
Post by: BostonPancake on November 17, 2009, 03:53:54 PM
My #1 choice for the next ku football coach. 



(http://thematadorsports.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/Kevin-Sumlin.jpg)



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Shut up.  You'll get Gary DiNardo and like it.
Title: Re: Kevin Sumlin
Post by: WildcatNkilt on November 17, 2009, 03:54:29 PM
Someone, not partaking in hallucinogens, on the other board mentioned the early short list as Skip Holtz and Randy Edsell.  Holtz was the head coach at UCONN prior to Edsell.

Either would be logical, safe and very average hires.  





LOL.  I can literally smell the fear. 

I can sense the fear from you  :pray: uk doesn't fall back to the Terry Allen days.
Title: Re: Kevin Sumlin
Post by: WillieWannabe on November 17, 2009, 03:59:31 PM
Is there a better looking man wearing a visor?? Don't think so.
Title: Re: Kevin Sumlin
Post by: catzacker on November 17, 2009, 04:15:42 PM
mike leach should consider moving to the North.  He'd go to the Big 12CG like every year. 
Title: Re: Kevin Sumlin
Post by: Chingon on November 17, 2009, 04:22:26 PM
Bill Young returns?
Title: Re: Kevin Sumlin
Post by: Del Tremens on November 17, 2009, 04:26:24 PM
I know most of you will deny it, but losing to Kansas hurts you more than losing to anyone else in the country.  I won't argue that beating Kansas is as important to you guys as beating Texas/Oklahoma, but it's up there.  You're in denial if you can't admit that you're a little nervous about the way that the rivalry has evolved.  Kansas is becoming a lot like Bill Snyder's program at Kansas State.  

I will admit that when ku fan admits that losing to KSU in Basketball is important. Oh, comparing ku/Mangina to what Bill Snyder did is ridiculous. If you compare what Mangina has done this year to when Marshall was undefeated a while back I will buy that. Again refer to above as to where the ku win stands.

I think that most Kansas fans would admit that any rivalry game is important.  However, in basketball, individual games aren't as important as they are in football, so it's hard to really compare.  Kansas also plays its rivals (K-State and Mizzou) twice in conference play, so there's always the chance of getting redemption in the same season.  

On the Synder/Mangino comparison, you've got to take a look at what both coaches had done at this point in their careers.  Here are some interesting facts (found this on phog):

Both of their first seasons were awful, Snyder 1-10, Mangino 2-10, mostly because of inheriting a bad team. Both coaches’ teams struggled on the road. Through the first five and a half years of Snyder’s career, Kansas State was 5-21 away from Manhattan. Through five and a half years, Kansas is 6-21 under Mangino away from Lawrence.

The formula Bill Snyder used for making Kansas State a national power is also similar to what Mangino did to gain national recognition. Both coaches have added wins to the schedule by playing soft opponents during the nonconference part of the season. Through five and a half seasons, Snyder’s nonconference record was 18-6. Mangino, through the first five and a half season’s of his career, has gone 18-6 in nonconference play.

For a team near the cellar of college football, recruiting can be tricky, and coaches have to find players that marquis schools overlook. Players that come from a junior college or players that are undersized for their position are what Snyder capitalized on and what Mangino is also doing.

On Oct. 22, 1994, the Kansas State Wildcats were 4-2 (1-2 Big 8 ) under Bill Snyder and went on to finish the season 9-3 (5-2 Big 8 ). They finished the season ranked No. 19 in the AP poll, and No. 16 in the CNN/USA Today Coaches’ Poll. They were nearly a permanent fixture in the rankings for the next ten years.

Today, Oct. 22, 2007, Kansas is ranked No. 12 in the AP poll, No. 10 in the USA Today Coaches Poll and No. 9 in the BCS poll. Kansas is undefeated at 7-0 under Mark Mangino. Though Bill Snyder was well on his way in establishing Kansas State as a national power five years into his coaching career, it was not until 1998 when Kansas State went 7-0.

Mark Mangino was an assistant coach at Kansas State from 1991-1998 and was around to witness Bill Snyder build a football team from a laughing stock to a national power. Through five and a half years of coaching, both coaches careers look similar. It was clear that Mangino learned a thing or two under Bill Snyder. It will not be surprising to see Kansas football enjoy success similar to that which Snyder brought to Kansas State.
Title: Re: Kevin Sumlin
Post by: BMWJhawk on November 17, 2009, 04:29:05 PM
if not Sumlin, who's next?

p.s. stay the hell away from Venzy.



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Title: Re: Kevin Sumlin
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 17, 2009, 04:31:33 PM
So Sumlin has already been tossed under the Bus??

Title: Re: Kevin Sumlin
Post by: kougar24 on November 17, 2009, 04:31:57 PM
Did this go completely unnoticed or something?


Not going to happen, and yes, I've asked about this. Coogs are loaded, and Keenum has another year. If they go undefeated or have one less next year, he'll have his choice of jobs.
Title: Re: Kevin Sumlin
Post by: Andy on November 17, 2009, 04:32:11 PM
LOL @ early short list

ku fans should take their first 5 targets, write them down...crumple up the paper and start with a new list not using those 5.

prob more like top 10.
Title: Re: Kevin Sumlin
Post by: BMWJhawk on November 17, 2009, 04:35:01 PM
So Sumlin has already been tossed under the Bus??





if not Sumlin, who's next?

p.s. stay the hell away from Venzy.



(http://www.gatorcountry.com/images/uploads/football/StrongCharlie_090912_7054_TCasey.jpg)




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Title: Re: Kevin Sumlin
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 17, 2009, 04:36:21 PM
LOL at Ben . . . now acting all big and bold after 2 years of doing nothing but heap praise on Mangino and telling us how Mangino was going to bury K-State . . . love ya Ben.

Title: Re: Kevin Sumlin
Post by: BMWJhawk on November 17, 2009, 04:37:19 PM
LOL at Ben . . . now acting all big and bold after 2 years of doing nothing but heap praise on Mangino and telling us how Mangino was going to bury K-State . . . love ya Ben.






Bullsh*t, 'Pad.  You know I've been highly critical of Mangino in the past.  I've never been a big fan of his to be honest.
Title: Re: Kevin Sumlin
Post by: Mizzou Mafia on November 17, 2009, 04:37:25 PM
Would be HUGE for ku.

BTW, you are of the opinion that Mangino is gone, correct?


Yep.  It looks like it's all but official at this point.



Well, as long as you're AUTHORITATIVE ....

Title: Re: Kevin Sumlin
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 17, 2009, 04:38:58 PM
LOL at Ben . . . now acting all big and bold after 2 years of doing nothing but heap praise on Mangino and telling us how Mangino was going to bury K-State . . . love ya Ben.






Bullsh*t, 'Pad.  You know I've been highly critical of Mangino in the past.  I've never been a big fan of his to be honest.

You really don't want me to do a dumpster dive do you Ben . . . good gawd, that is just so sad . . . so very, very sad.

Title: Re: Kevin Sumlin
Post by: The42Yardstick on November 17, 2009, 04:40:14 PM
Would be HUGE for ku.

BTW, you are of the opinion that Mangino is gone, correct?


Yep.  It looks like it's all but official at this point.



Well, as long as you're AUTHORITATIVE ....



The42Yardstick is to be the next HC of the Kansas football dynasty. I will bury you motherf*ckers so that you will never see the sun again. I am my own authority.

Also,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDLPwkOlwO0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDLPwkOlwO0)

(http://i41.tinypic.com/33fgtg2.jpg)
Title: Re: Kevin Sumlin
Post by: BMWJhawk on November 17, 2009, 04:50:27 PM
LOL at Ben . . . now acting all big and bold after 2 years of doing nothing but heap praise on Mangino and telling us how Mangino was going to bury K-State . . . love ya Ben.






Bullsh*t, 'Pad.  You know I've been highly critical of Mangino in the past.  I've never been a big fan of his to be honest.

You really don't want me to do a dumpster dive do you Ben . . . good gawd, that is just so sad . . . so very, very sad.






Did you forget about the sh*t storm I riled up on phog.net last year after the losses to Texas Tech and Nebraska?  I've never been a big Mangino fan.  Not sure why that bothers you so much.
Title: Re: Kevin Sumlin
Post by: CatsNShocks on November 17, 2009, 04:55:12 PM
Someone, not partaking in hallucinogens, on the other board mentioned the early short list as Skip Holtz and Randy Edsell.  Holtz was the head coach at UCONN prior to Edsell.

Either would be logical, safe and very average hires.  





LOL.  I can literally smell the fear. 

You go from "History Awaits" to this?
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Kevin Sumlin
Post by: Mizzou Mafia on November 17, 2009, 05:00:06 PM
Would be HUGE for ku.

BTW, you are of the opinion that Mangino is gone, correct?


Yep.  It looks like it's all but official at this point.



Well, as long as you're AUTHORITATIVE ....



The42Yardstick is to be the next HC of the Kansas football dynasty. I will bury you motherf*ckers so that you will never see the sun again. I am my own authority.

Also,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDLPwkOlwO0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDLPwkOlwO0)

(http://i41.tinypic.com/33fgtg2.jpg)

LOL. Thanks for the link. I've never seen this.
 8-)
Title: Re: Kevin Sumlin
Post by: kst8cat on November 17, 2009, 05:49:33 PM
ku should piss off all the Colorado fans and hire Dave Logan.  Would be very funny from two angles.
Title: Re: Kevin Sumlin
Post by: Bullfn33 on November 17, 2009, 06:13:44 PM
Fran
Title: Re: Kevin Sumlin
Post by: The Whale on November 17, 2009, 06:27:14 PM
As long as you're dreaming big, how about Charlie Weis?  He's about to get fired by ND...



As an added bonus, we'd get to keep the fat jokes.
Title: Re: Kevin Sumlin
Post by: BMWJhawk on November 17, 2009, 06:31:23 PM
As long as you're dreaming big, how about Charlie Weis?  He's about to get fired by ND...



As an added bonus, we'd get to keep the fat jokes.




I'd rather have Mangino than Weis.
Title: Re: Kevin Sumlin
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 17, 2009, 06:33:11 PM
ku should piss off all the Colorado fans and hire Dave Logan.  Would be very funny from two angles.

That's very funny . . . netbuffs has been crying for Logan for like a decade now. 

Title: Re: Kevin Sumlin
Post by: fatty fat fat on November 17, 2009, 06:37:23 PM
mike leach should consider moving to the North.  He'd go to the Big 12CG like every year. 

where he would lose in the the title game very year.
Title: Re: Kevin Sumlin
Post by: Pett on November 17, 2009, 06:42:56 PM
Ben, keep dreaming bud, good football coaches don't want to end up in Lawrence and ALWAYS be second to the basketball team...

Sorry, but try again. Like how about the Temple coach or something? :shy:

To be honest, if I were you, I would try to hold on to Mangino until he dies because that's the best football coach that you will ever sniff (pun intended).
Title: Re: Kevin Sumlin
Post by: Oklahoma_Cat on November 17, 2009, 07:34:26 PM
LOL @ ku fans.  Nationwide, KSU is more well-known as the "football school" in the state, and we've all seen how difficult it is to get anyone to even look at us without laughing their asses off. 

ku isn't going to get a big up-and-coming name.  Their either going to keep someone from the current staff, get an unknown assistant from a mid-major, or a coach past his prime.  Bet on it.
Title: Re: Kevin Sumlin
Post by: BMWJhawk on November 17, 2009, 07:35:59 PM
You guys remind me of the ku fans who were in denial about K-State getting a coach like Bob Huggins.
Title: Re: Kevin Sumlin
Post by: PowercatPat on November 17, 2009, 07:39:50 PM
You guys remind me of the ku fans who were in denial about K-State getting a coach like Bob Huggins.

Bob Huggins was a legit coach. Turner Gill hasn't really done anything besides win a MAC championship for a school nobody cares about. BTW, Buffalo is 3-7 and 1-5 in the MAC this season.

 :lol:
Title: Re: Kevin Sumlin
Post by: PowercatPat on November 17, 2009, 07:42:12 PM
I know most of you will deny it, but losing to Kansas hurts you more than losing to anyone else in the country.  I won't argue that beating Kansas is as important to you guys as beating Texas/Oklahoma, but it's up there.  You're in denial if you can't admit that you're a little nervous about the way that the rivalry has evolved.  Kansas is becoming a lot like Bill Snyder's program at Kansas State.  

I will admit that when ku fan admits that losing to KSU in Basketball is important. Oh, comparing ku/Mangina to what Bill Snyder did is ridiculous. If you compare what Mangina has done this year to when Marshall was undefeated a while back I will buy that. Again refer to above as to where the ku win stands.

I think that most Kansas fans would admit that any rivalry game is important.  However, in basketball, individual games aren't as important as they are in football, so it's hard to really compare.  Kansas also plays its rivals (K-State and Mizzou) twice in conference play, so there's always the chance of getting redemption in the same season.  

On the Synder/Mangino comparison, you've got to take a look at what both coaches had done at this point in their careers.  Here are some interesting facts (found this on phog):

Both of their first seasons were awful, Snyder 1-10, Mangino 2-10, mostly because of inheriting a bad team. Both coaches’ teams struggled on the road. Through the first five and a half years of Snyder’s career, Kansas State was 5-21 away from Manhattan. Through five and a half years, Kansas is 6-21 under Mangino away from Lawrence.

The formula Bill Snyder used for making Kansas State a national power is also similar to what Mangino did to gain national recognition. Both coaches have added wins to the schedule by playing soft opponents during the nonconference part of the season. Through five and a half seasons, Snyder’s nonconference record was 18-6. Mangino, through the first five and a half season’s of his career, has gone 18-6 in nonconference play.

For a team near the cellar of college football, recruiting can be tricky, and coaches have to find players that marquis schools overlook. Players that come from a junior college or players that are undersized for their position are what Snyder capitalized on and what Mangino is also doing.

On Oct. 22, 1994, the Kansas State Wildcats were 4-2 (1-2 Big 8 ) under Bill Snyder and went on to finish the season 9-3 (5-2 Big 8 ). They finished the season ranked No. 19 in the AP poll, and No. 16 in the CNN/USA Today Coaches’ Poll. They were nearly a permanent fixture in the rankings for the next ten years.

Today, Oct. 22, 2007, Kansas is ranked No. 12 in the AP poll, No. 10 in the USA Today Coaches Poll and No. 9 in the BCS poll. Kansas is undefeated at 7-0 under Mark Mangino. Though Bill Snyder was well on his way in establishing Kansas State as a national power five years into his coaching career, it was not until 1998 when Kansas State went 7-0.

Mark Mangino was an assistant coach at Kansas State from 1991-1998 and was around to witness Bill Snyder build a football team from a laughing stock to a national power. Through five and a half years of coaching, both coaches careers look similar. It was clear that Mangino learned a thing or two under Bill Snyder. It will not be surprising to see Kansas football enjoy success similar to that which Snyder brought to Kansas State.

LMFAO. BMW's post is absolutely hilarious.


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Title: Re: Kevin Sumlin
Post by: BMWJhawk on November 17, 2009, 07:45:30 PM
You guys remind me of the ku fans who were in denial about K-State getting a coach like Bob Huggins.

Bob Huggins was a legit coach. Turner Gill hasn't really done anything besides win a MAC championship for a school nobody cares about. BTW, Buffalo is 3-7 and 1-5 in the MAC this season.

 :lol:



You're preaching to the choir.  Kevin Sumlin is #1 on my wish list.  See sig.
Title: Re: Kevin Sumlin
Post by: wildcat79 on November 17, 2009, 11:33:10 PM
Who can eat the most. I think they should have tryouts. What we have here are big shoes to fill and I mean big! :beerchug: