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Title: 2009 Big 12 North Tiebreaker??
Post by: Haverhill on October 27, 2009, 06:04:25 PM
This is on Cyclone Fanatic right now.

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09 Big XII North = 08 Big XII South?
   
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Not in terms of how good the teams are but in how the champion could be decided.

I could see KSU, ISU and NU all tied at the end with KSU having the tie-breaker over ISU, ISU having the tie-breaker over NU and NU having the tie-breaker over KSU. Is this a real possibility?

Quote from: dunar on CycloneFanatic.com
1. The records of the three teams will be compared against each other
2. The records of the three teams will be compared within their division
3. The records of the three teams will be compared against the next highest placed teams in their division in order of finish (4, 5 and 6)
4. The records of the three teams will be compared against all common conference opponents;
5. The highest ranked team in the first Bowl Championship Series Poll following the completion of Big 12 regular season conference play shall be the representative
6. The team with the best overall winning percentage [excluding exempted games] shall be the representative
7. The representative will be chosen by draw.

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#1 would knock KSU out (2-2 non conference), and then I think head-to-head would decide for... ISU!
Title: Re: 2009 Big 12 North Tiebreaker??
Post by: bfred on October 27, 2009, 06:08:02 PM
can we disown haverhill? I will burn his adoption papers if no one else is willing to do it
Title: Re: 2009 Big 12 North Tiebreaker??
Post by: fatty fat fat on October 27, 2009, 06:09:16 PM
I have no interest winning the division at 4-4.
Title: Re: 2009 Big 12 North Tiebreaker??
Post by: Cem Blasoflas on October 27, 2009, 06:10:05 PM
We have to win in Lincoln.

I don't want to back in to the CCG on a loss.  That's a very Huskerish way to win a banner.
Title: Re: 2009 Big 12 North Tiebreaker??
Post by: Haverhill on October 27, 2009, 06:10:20 PM
can we disown haverhill? I will burn his adoption papers if no one else is willing to do it

I apologize for not being EMAW, but this is a real possibility if you lose to Nebraska. Don't shoot the messenger.
Title: Re: 2009 Big 12 North Tiebreaker??
Post by: Bookie Pimp on October 27, 2009, 06:17:56 PM
This is on Cyclone Fanatic right now.

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09 Big XII North = 08 Big XII South?
   
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Not in terms of how good the teams are but in how the champion could be decided.

I could see KSU, ISU and NU all tied at the end with KSU having the tie-breaker over ISU, ISU having the tie-breaker over NU and NU having the tie-breaker over KSU. Is this a real possibility?

Quote from: dunar on CycloneFanatic.com
1. The records of the three teams will be compared against each other
2. The records of the three teams will be compared within their division
3. The records of the three teams will be compared against the next highest placed teams in their division in order of finish (4, 5 and 6)
4. The records of the three teams will be compared against all common conference opponents;
5. The highest ranked team in the first Bowl Championship Series Poll following the completion of Big 12 regular season conference play shall be the representative
6. The team with the best overall winning percentage [excluding exempted games] shall be the representative
7. The representative will be chosen by draw.

source

#1 would knock KSU out (2-2 non conference), and then I think head-to-head would decide for... ISU!

I don't mean to burst your bubble, but the "records of the three teams will be compared" in #1 is "conference records only...


Nice try, though. 

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 2009 Big 12 North Tiebreaker??
Post by: Haverhill on October 27, 2009, 06:21:33 PM
This is on Cyclone Fanatic right now.

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09 Big XII North = 08 Big XII South?
   
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Not in terms of how good the teams are but in how the champion could be decided.

I could see KSU, ISU and NU all tied at the end with KSU having the tie-breaker over ISU, ISU having the tie-breaker over NU and NU having the tie-breaker over KSU. Is this a real possibility?

Quote from: dunar on CycloneFanatic.com
1. The records of the three teams will be compared against each other
2. The records of the three teams will be compared within their division
3. The records of the three teams will be compared against the next highest placed teams in their division in order of finish (4, 5 and 6)
4. The records of the three teams will be compared against all common conference opponents;
5. The highest ranked team in the first Bowl Championship Series Poll following the completion of Big 12 regular season conference play shall be the representative
6. The team with the best overall winning percentage [excluding exempted games] shall be the representative
7. The representative will be chosen by draw.

source

#1 would knock KSU out (2-2 non conference), and then I think head-to-head would decide for... ISU!

I don't mean to burst your bubble, but the "records of the three teams will be compared" in #1 is "conference records only...


Nice try, though. 

 :thumbsup:


At the top, I said "this is on Cyclone Fanatic." I didn't start this lol.
Title: Re: 2009 Big 12 North Tiebreaker??
Post by: Bookie Pimp on October 27, 2009, 06:29:21 PM
Understood, Haver....  But, now that I re-read it, I'm a bit confused myself.

It would seem that it could mean overall record, however that would almost seem to render step #6 a moot point.

Hell, who knows??  Let's just hope it doesn't come down to all this and somebody actually wins it on the playing field.

 :popcorn:
Title: Re: 2009 Big 12 North Tiebreaker??
Post by: PowercatPat on October 27, 2009, 06:57:00 PM
I'm pretty sure it means conference record.
Title: Re: 2009 Big 12 North Tiebreaker??
Post by: bfred on October 27, 2009, 07:06:08 PM
I suppose I could let this one go  :'(
Title: Re: 2009 Big 12 North Tiebreaker??
Post by: EllToPay on October 27, 2009, 07:09:41 PM
Haverhill is getting very annoying.

Like, BMW annoying.
Title: Re: 2009 Big 12 North Tiebreaker??
Post by: Houstoncat93 on October 27, 2009, 07:15:42 PM
Understood, Haver....  But, now that I re-read it, I'm a bit confused myself.

It would seem that it could mean overall record, however that would almost seem to render step #6 a moot point.

Hell, who knows??  Let's just hope it doesn't come down to all this and somebody actually wins it on the playing field.

 :popcorn:

Crap has it really been that long since we've been out of it that nobody remembers how this works.

#1 refers to the records of the 3 teams among the games they played against each other.
Title: Re: 2009 Big 12 North Tiebreaker??
Post by: ew2x4 on October 27, 2009, 07:24:37 PM
This is on Cyclone Fanatic right now.

Quote
09 Big XII North = 08 Big XII South?
   
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Not in terms of how good the teams are but in how the champion could be decided.

I could see KSU, ISU and NU all tied at the end with KSU having the tie-breaker over ISU, ISU having the tie-breaker over NU and NU having the tie-breaker over KSU. Is this a real possibility?

Quote from: dunar on CycloneFanatic.com
1. The records of the three teams will be compared against each other
2. The records of the three teams will be compared within their division
3. The records of the three teams will be compared against the next highest placed teams in their division in order of finish (4, 5 and 6)
4. The records of the three teams will be compared against all common conference opponents;
5. The highest ranked team in the first Bowl Championship Series Poll following the completion of Big 12 regular season conference play shall be the representative
6. The team with the best overall winning percentage [excluding exempted games] shall be the representative
7. The representative will be chosen by draw.

source

#6 would knock KSU out (2-2 non conference), and then I think head-to-head would decide for... NOT ISU!

FYP.
Title: Re: 2009 Big 12 North Tiebreaker??
Post by: Dirty Sanchez on October 27, 2009, 09:37:12 PM
The 3 way tie breaker for the Big 12 is #5 FWIW.

Uhhh...no.   The bcs poll is a top 25 only.  No one in the north is in it now.  If a tie happens, there still won't be anyone in it.  May not be anyone in it without a tie. 
Title: Re: 2009 Big 12 North Tiebreaker??
Post by: Bookcat on October 27, 2009, 10:06:41 PM
Iowa State will lose @ ATM and we can put this to bed
Title: Re: 2009 Big 12 North Tiebreaker??
Post by: Dirty Sanchez on October 27, 2009, 10:14:38 PM
Iowa State will lose @ ATM and we can put this to bed

+1

No way they go into two difficult places to win at in a row.  They'll be coming down off their post cornshucking high.  May get trounced if aTm has it in them for 2 weeks in a row.
Title: Re: 2009 Big 12 North Tiebreaker??
Post by: Dick Knewheizel on October 27, 2009, 10:32:08 PM
Understood, Haver....  But, now that I re-read it, I'm a bit confused myself.

It would seem that it could mean overall record, however that would almost seem to render step #6 a moot point.

Hell, who knows??  Let's just hope it doesn't come down to all this and somebody actually wins it on the playing field.

 :popcorn:

Crap has it really been that long since we've been out of it that nobody remembers how this works.

#1 refers to the records of the 3 teams among the games they played against each other.

This is how I read it.