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Title: Is Scott Pollard a liar and probably commited a violation? New info (link)
Post by: Pete on October 08, 2009, 11:08:22 AM
For our lurkers, I'd like to point out that you can got to this thread http://www.ksufans.com/forums/index.php?topic=44602.150 and observe title information regarding Scott Pollard's suburban, which was allegedly obtained TODAY.

Apparently, he has a lien on the truck.  If that's the case...if this is factual information, then he has not completed a sale to anyone else, because he would FIRST have to obtain a lien release to get a title, which you need to transfer ownership.  Of course if that document isn't accurate then Scott and ku have nothing to worry about  :lol:

So, if the info in the linked thread is accurate  :thumbsup:, Scott did indeed commit a violation.  It's possible that Scott is not a liar, per se, and merely ignorant of the law.  However, that would still constitute an NCAA violation...ignorance is no excuse (Kelvin can tell you ALL about that one).


 :kstatriot:

Title: Re: Is Scott Pollard a liar and probably commited a violation? New info (link)
Post by: Rick Daris on October 08, 2009, 11:18:30 AM
yes. i recently asked a knowledgable person about what the linked thread showed us and this was his response (more/less)...

 If Taylor bought the vehicle... he has 30 days to register it, in his name, from the date of the sale. To drive it, he has to at least get a 30 day tag. If Pollard was going to sell it, he would have done a lien release. It really doesn't appear that he sold it.

Title: Re: Is Scott Pollard a liar and probably commited a violation? New info (link)
Post by: feralchat on October 08, 2009, 11:21:13 AM
Bwhahahhahahahahahahaha
Title: Re: Is Scott Pollard a liar and probably commited a violation? New info (link)
Post by: ew2x4 on October 08, 2009, 11:22:23 AM
yes. i recently asked a knowledgable person about what the linked thread showed us and this was his response (more/less)...

 If Taylor bought the vehicle... he has 30 days to register it, in his name, from the date of the sale. To drive it, he has to at least get a 30 day tag. If Pollard was going to sell it, he would have done a lien release. It really doesn't appear that he sold it.



Not to mention Pollard went on record as saying he took the plates and sold it. The plates that are registered to Pollard are the same as the ones in the police report that were on the Tahoe the night of the accident.
Title: Re: Is Scott Pollard a liar and probably commited a violation? New info (link)
Post by: Rick Daris on October 08, 2009, 11:24:42 AM
yes. i recently asked a knowledgable person about what the linked thread showed us and this was his response (more/less)...

 If Taylor bought the vehicle... he has 30 days to register it, in his name, from the date of the sale. To drive it, he has to at least get a 30 day tag. If Pollard was going to sell it, he would have done a lien release. It really doesn't appear that he sold it.



Not to mention Pollard went on record as saying he took the plates and sold it. The plates that are registered to Pollard are the same as the ones in the police report that were on the Tahoe the night of the accident.

well if anything, we know that pollard would not lie. assuming (obviously) that he did NOT lie about anything and did indeed take the plates with him when he sold it...morris was driving the car before it was sold or the plates wouldn't have been pol725. morris driving this car before it was sold would be an obvious violation, no?
Title: Re: Is Scott Pollard a liar and probably commited a violation? New info (link)
Post by: Pete on October 08, 2009, 11:24:56 AM
yes. i recently asked a knowledgable person about what the linked thread showed us and this was his response (more/less)...

 If Taylor bought the vehicle... he has 30 days to register it, in his name, from the date of the sale. To drive it, he has to at least get a 30 day tag. If Pollard was going to sell it, he would have done a lien release. It really doesn't appear that he sold it.



Not to mention Pollard went on record as saying he took the plates and sold it. The plates that are registered to Pollard are the same as the ones in the police report that were on the Tahoe the night of the accident.

Kevin Kietzman's show isn't exactly "on the record" for the purposes of the NCAA, but for the purposes of human beings who heard the lies come out of Scott's mouth, it's kinda a bad thing for Scott.  Makes him seem like a liar.....errrrr, PROVES that he is a liar?  

Again, probably just one big mix up.  :blindfold:
Title: Re: Is Scott Pollard a liar and probably commited a violation? New info (link)
Post by: ew2x4 on October 08, 2009, 11:32:57 AM
yes. i recently asked a knowledgable person about what the linked thread showed us and this was his response (more/less)...

 If Taylor bought the vehicle... he has 30 days to register it, in his name, from the date of the sale. To drive it, he has to at least get a 30 day tag. If Pollard was going to sell it, he would have done a lien release. It really doesn't appear that he sold it.



Not to mention Pollard went on record as saying he took the plates and sold it. The plates that are registered to Pollard are the same as the ones in the police report that were on the Tahoe the night of the accident.

Kevin Kietzman's show isn't exactly "on the record" for the purposes of the NCAA, but for the purposes of human beings who heard the lies come out of Scott's mouth, it's kinda a bad thing for Scott.  Makes him seem like a liar.....errrrr, PROVES that he is a liar?  

Again, probably just one big mix up.  :blindfold:

"On the record" can also apply to media. And having a recording of it. Not saying he was under oath or anything.
Title: Re: Is Scott Pollard a liar and probably commited a violation? New info (link)
Post by: Pete on October 08, 2009, 11:35:56 AM
yes. i recently asked a knowledgable person about what the linked thread showed us and this was his response (more/less)...

 If Taylor bought the vehicle... he has 30 days to register it, in his name, from the date of the sale. To drive it, he has to at least get a 30 day tag. If Pollard was going to sell it, he would have done a lien release. It really doesn't appear that he sold it.



Not to mention Pollard went on record as saying he took the plates and sold it. The plates that are registered to Pollard are the same as the ones in the police report that were on the Tahoe the night of the accident.

Kevin Kietzman's show isn't exactly "on the record" for the purposes of the NCAA, but for the purposes of human beings who heard the lies come out of Scott's mouth, it's kinda a bad thing for Scott.  Makes him seem like a liar.....errrrr, PROVES that he is a liar?  

Again, probably just one big mix up.  :blindfold:

"On the record" can also apply to media. And having a recording of it. Not saying he was under oath or anything.

So, if we find that it is true that the lien still exists on Scott's truck, then we do have it "on the record" that Scott is a liar.  Thanks!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Is Scott Pollard a liar and probably commited a violation? New info (link)
Post by: Pete on October 08, 2009, 11:47:28 AM
From Rick Dari's point in another thread...



also, lol at pollard saying he took the tags off when he sold it, but the tag on the car when morris got pulled over at one in the morning with a sixteen year old in the front seat was still pol725.


sure seems that a former ku basketball player was letting a current ku basketball player use his car to chauffer sixteen year old girls around town at 1:00am.  :nono:

Good point Daris.  It would seem then that when Scott Pollard told Kevin Keitzman that he removed the plates from the car, he was lying.
Title: Re: Is Scott Pollard a liar and probably commited a violation? New info (link)
Post by: sys on October 08, 2009, 11:49:35 AM
It would seem then that when Scott Pollard told Kevin Keitzman that he removed the plates from the car, he was lying.

afraid so, i don't think there's any way around it.  we are just going to have accept that pollard is not a truthful person.
Title: Re: Is Scott Pollard a liar and probably commited a violation? New info (link)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 08, 2009, 11:53:17 AM
I don't know about you guys, but I just never pictured Scott Pollard as being a big, fat liar . . . I for one, am . . . shocked . . . and frankly a bit sad about this situation.

Title: Re: Is Scott Pollard a liar and probably commited a violation? New info (link)
Post by: Pete on October 08, 2009, 11:53:46 AM
It would seem then that when Scott Pollard told Kevin Keitzman that he removed the plates from the car, he was lying.

afraid so, i don't think there's any way around it.  we are just going to have accept that pollard is not a truthful person.

Well, it certainly does make you wonder why Scott acted so indigent and downright mean to Kevin Kietzman on the radio.  Sure, we are proving out that he is a liar, but now we are finding out that he is a bad person.  I don't know how I am going to break this to my 80+ year old grandmother.  She loves all those old Hawk players.   :'(
Title: Re: Is Scott Pollard a liar and probably commited a violation? New info (link)
Post by: QuinnMac on October 08, 2009, 11:53:53 AM
It would seem then that when Scott Pollard told Kevin Keitzman that he removed the plates from the car, he was lying.

afraid so, i don't think there's any way around it.  we are just going to have accept that pollard and Marchiony are not truthful people.
:frown:
Title: Re: Is Scott Pollard a liar and probably commited a violation? New info (link)
Post by: jester66 on October 08, 2009, 11:55:11 AM
What makes it even funnier is that he pointed out that he approached the station and refused to discuss things off the air.  Meaning everything he said yesterday is on the record and would be admissible.  Still think this a relatively minor, but would be all the sweeter if this idiot helped ku get an extension of their probation.
Title: Re: Is Scott Pollard a liar and probably commited a violation? New info (link)
Post by: jswabash on October 08, 2009, 11:55:45 AM
I'm still very curious to hear the timeline of when this supposed deal took place.
Scott says late July/August.
Accident in mid-september.
My sundial tells me this is more than 30 days. If that's true, then wouldn't the vehicle have expired tags on it?

Wait a second, it didn't have tags because Scott said he took them off.

But wait, how did the LPD get the information that it was registered to Scott?

I'm tellin ya what, that LPD should be ashamed of themselves for making a former ku bball player look so shady.
Title: Re: Is Scott Pollard a liar and probably commited a violation? New info (link)
Post by: steve dave on October 08, 2009, 11:56:08 AM
All the evidence in one post:

Some sort of document obtained today?
(http://i893.photobucket.com/albums/ac132/bigshotattorneycat/sp1.gif)


The police report showing Pollard's tags still on the car, and two females in the car with Markief (THE 16 YEAR OLD IN THE FRONT SEAT!) at 1:30AM on a f^cking sunday:
Police Report Link (http://www.whbsports.com/kansas/stories/Morris-wreck.pdf)

Link to Pollard's blog where he is proven to be a liar a lot:
SMELLY LINK (http://planetpollard.com/wordpress/?p=43)
Title: Re: Is Scott Pollard a liar and probably commited a violation? New info (link)
Post by: jswabash on October 08, 2009, 11:57:58 AM
Can any smartypants decipher what the abbreviated bold letters in the top half of the photo stand for?
Title: Re: Is Scott Pollard a liar and probably commited a violation? New info (link)
Post by: sys on October 08, 2009, 12:03:06 PM
But wait, how did the LPD get the information that it was registered to Scott?

well now that i'm thinking it through a bit more, i may have jumped the gun on accepting that pollard is a liar.  there may be a perfectly reasonable explanation.

for example, pollard is a big shot x-nbaer right?  and in a hick, flyover town like lawrence probably everyone knows him.  so the police probably didn't even run the tags when they pulled morris over.  they were likely just "hey, this is polly's old black tahoe, isn't it?... i'll just write down that it is, save some time on the radio"

and then since lawrence is so all hicksvilley and pollard so super famousey, the cops probably had pollard's tag # memorized and filled that in too.
Title: Re: Is Scott Pollard a liar and probably commited a violation? New info (link)
Post by: jswabash on October 08, 2009, 12:04:24 PM
But wait, how did the LPD get the information that it was registered to Scott?

well now that i'm thinking it through a bit more, i may have jumped the gun on accepting that pollard is a liar.  there may be a perfectly reasonable explanation.

for example, pollard is a big shot x-nbaer right?  and in a hick, flyover town like lawrence probably everyone knows him.  so the police probably didn't even run the tags when they pulled morris over.  they were likely just "hey, this is polly's old black tahoe, isn't it?... i'll just write down that it is, save some time on the radio"

and then since lawrence is so all hicksvilley and pollard so super famousey, the cops probably had pollard's tag # memorized and filled that in too.


absolutely brilliant. makes complete sense
Title: Re: Is Scott Pollard a liar and probably commited a violation? New info (link)
Post by: steve dave on October 08, 2009, 12:04:41 PM
But wait, how did the LPD get the information that it was registered to Scott?

well now that i'm thinking it through a bit more, i may have jumped the gun on accepting that pollard is a liar.  there may be a perfectly reasonable explanation.

for example, pollard is a big shot x-nbaer right?  and in a hick, flyover town like lawrence probably everyone knows him.  so the police probably didn't even run the tags when they pulled morris over.  they were likely just "hey, this is polly's old black tahoe, isn't it?... i'll just write down that it is, save some time on the radio"

and then since lawrence is so all hicksvilley and pollard so super famousey, the cops probably had pollard's tag # memorized and filled that in too.

Prolly the same thing with the girl in the front seat.  They knew Markieff liked to tag team junior high girls so they just filled in the age.
Title: Re: Is Scott Pollard a liar and probably commited a violation? New info (link)
Post by: sys on October 08, 2009, 12:06:00 PM
Prolly the same thing with the girl in the front seat.  They knew Markieff liked to tag team junior high girls so they just filled in the age.

lol.
Title: Re: Is Scott Pollard a liar and probably commited a violation? New info (link)
Post by: ltrain37 on October 08, 2009, 12:09:59 PM
Anyone catch Scot's comment that the Tahoe in question was the first car he bought with his NBA contract (which would have been in 1997).  

Quote from:  Scot's garbage website
Long story short, I sold a car I didn’t need anymore (my first car when I got an NBA contract, actually)

And supposedly he still had a loan out on it in 2009?  I'm no math super genius...but thats 12 fracking years.  Who the frack pays a car off over 12 years.  I call  :bs:

I for one am very disappointed in Scot and his web of lies...very disappointed.   :frown:

Title: Re: Is Scott Pollard a liar and probably commited a violation? New info (link)
Post by: steve dave on October 08, 2009, 12:21:04 PM
Anyone catch Scot's comment that the Tahoe in question was the first car he bought with his NBA contract (which would have been in 1997).  

And supposedly he still had a loan out on it in 2009?  I'm no math super genius...but thats 12 fracking years.  Who the frack pays a car off over 12 years.  I call  :bs:

I for one am very disappointed in Scot and his web of lies...very disappointed.   :frown:

Yep, doesn't add up at all. 

(http://static.bigstockphoto.com/thumbs/4/0/1/large/1048014.jpg)
Title: Re: Is Scott Pollard a liar and probably commited a violation? New info (link)
Post by: Dick Knewheizel on October 08, 2009, 12:30:23 PM
Someone should paste a link to this thread into a comment on his blog and ask if he could further explain.  [I'd say pretend to be a uk fan, but this post would ruin that, so be as virulent as you want].  Pretty damning evidence against him, but every man deserves his day in KSUFans court.

What a friggin' disaster they have going on over there...
Title: Re: Is Scott Pollard a liar and probably commited a violation? New info (link)
Post by: steve dave on October 08, 2009, 12:43:36 PM
Someone should paste a link to this thread into a comment on his blog and ask if he could further explain.  [I'd say pretend to be a uk fan, but this post would ruin that, so be as virulent as you want].  Pretty damning evidence against him, but every man deserves his day in KSUFans court.

What a friggin' disaster they have going on over there...

Already did.  It takes a while and you may not get it posted because he has to approve all comments. 
Title: Re: Is Scott Pollard a liar and probably commited a violation? New info (link)
Post by: jswabash on October 08, 2009, 12:46:13 PM
He approves all comments on his blog?
This means one of two things:

1) No one ever posts comments on his blog
2) He is one pathetic loser
Title: Re: Is Scott Pollard a liar and probably commited a violation? New info (link)
Post by: Dick Knewheizel on October 08, 2009, 12:46:54 PM
Someone should paste a link to this thread into a comment on his blog and ask if he could further explain.  [I'd say pretend to be a uk fan, but this post would ruin that, so be as virulent as you want].  Pretty damning evidence against him, but every man deserves his day in KSUFans court.

What a friggin' disaster they have going on over there...

Already did.  It takes a while and you may not get it posted because he has to approve all comments. 

Internet Fascist?
Title: Re: Is Scott Pollard a liar and probably commited a violation? New info (link)
Post by: doom on October 08, 2009, 01:05:09 PM
Someone should paste a link to this thread into a comment on his blog and ask if he could further explain.  [I'd say pretend to be a uk fan, but this post would ruin that, so be as virulent as you want].  Pretty damning evidence against him, but every man deserves his day in KSUFans court.

What a friggin' disaster they have going on over there...

Already did.  It takes a while and you may not get it posted because he has to approve all comments. 

That is the one intelligible thing Scott Pollard has done. 
Title: Re: Is Scott Pollard a liar and probably commited a violation? New info (link)
Post by: jeffy on October 08, 2009, 01:09:21 PM


And supposedly he still had a loan out on it in 2009?  I'm no math super genius...but thats 12 fracking years.  Who the frack pays a car off over 12 years.  I call  :bs:


That could just be laziness.  I think I still have a lien listed on my truck title.  It was paid off 5 years ago and I've got a lien release letter in my files.  Probably a Grade A Felony to not have my title updated....
Title: Re: Is Scott Pollard a liar and probably commited a violation? New info (link)
Post by: pissclams on October 08, 2009, 01:19:43 PM
safe to assume all of this has been forwarded to:
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]

 :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Is Scott Pollard a liar and probably commited a violation? New info (link)
Post by: Thin Blue Line on October 08, 2009, 02:00:43 PM
Can any smartypants decipher what the abbreviated bold letters in the top half of the photo stand for?

Let's see if I can decipher them for you:

LIC: License plate number
LIT: License type (Standard on this one)
ADT: Last time it registration was renewed (8-28-2008)
LIM: Month the tag expires (September)
LIY: Year the tag expires (2009)
RST: Restrictions (Current/No problem, expired, suspended, cancelled)
VYR: Vehicle year of manufacture (1997)
VMA: Vehicle's manufacturer (Chevy)
VMO: Vehicle model (Tahoe)
VST: Vehicle style (This one shows it to be a registered as a "utility" (same as SUV)
VTP: Vehicle type (This one shows as a passenger car)
VIN: Vehicle Identification Number
VSTS: Vehicle status (Shows it is currently registered for operation in Kansas)
DCL: The number on the year decal on the plate
VEW: Vehicle empty weight
TRKCLS: Truck class
WIPSTS: No freaking clue
TTL: Title number
TISDT: Date title was granted
TTYP: Title type
TSTS: Title status

The rest is self explanatory, or should be

Title: Re: Is Scott Pollard a liar and probably commited a violation? New info (link)
Post by: dmartin on October 08, 2009, 03:15:31 PM
maybe he did take the tags off. and then maybe he put them right back on.
Title: Re: Is Scott Pollard a liar and probably commited a violation? New info (link)
Post by: jswabash on October 08, 2009, 03:31:15 PM
Can any smartypants decipher what the abbreviated bold letters in the top half of the photo stand for?

Let's see if I can decipher them for you:

LIC: License plate number
LIT: License type (Standard on this one)
ADT: Last time it registration was renewed (8-28-2008)
LIM: Month the tag expires (September)
LIY: Year the tag expires (2009)
RST: Restrictions (Current/No problem, expired, suspended, cancelled)
VYR: Vehicle year of manufacture (1997)
VMA: Vehicle's manufacturer (Chevy)
VMO: Vehicle model (Tahoe)
VST: Vehicle style (This one shows it to be a registered as a "utility" (same as SUV)
VTP: Vehicle type (This one shows as a passenger car)
VIN: Vehicle Identification Number
VSTS: Vehicle status (Shows it is currently registered for operation in Kansas)
DCL: The number on the year decal on the plate
VEW: Vehicle empty weight
TRKCLS: Truck class
WIPSTS: No freaking clue
TTL: Title number
TISDT: Date title was granted
TTYP: Title type
TSTS: Title status

The rest is self explanatory, or should be



Excellent. Thanks