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Sports => Snyder's Electronic Cyber Space World => Topic started by: ednksu on October 18, 2006, 11:19:04 AM

Title: A big reason for our problems
Post by: ednksu on October 18, 2006, 11:19:04 AM: http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/natlRank.jsp?year=2006&div=4&rpt=IA_teamtop&site=org

especially in the big 12, we will not be going to a bowl game if we cant move up this list.
Title: Re: A big reason for our problems
Post by: michigancat on October 18, 2006, 11:23:37 AM: I think TOP is a silly statistic. There's a lot of good teams at the bottom of the list, and a lot of bad teams at the top (Temple #7!)

I agree with Prince, 3rd down conversions and starting drive position are much more important and telling.
Title: Re: A big reason for our problems
Post by: Stillwater Cat on October 18, 2006, 11:24:18 AM: Arkansas seems to be doing fine in 118th position.
Title: Re: A big reason for our problems
Post by: PoetWarrior on October 18, 2006, 11:45:10 AM: The most meaningless stat in the history of the world.

Anyone going to turn down one minute TD drives?!
Title: Re: A big reason for our problems
Post by: michigancat on October 18, 2006, 11:45:55 AM: Quote from: PoetWarrior on October 18, 2006, 11:45:10 AM
Anyone going to turn down one minute TD drives?!

Incredibly, there are people that subscribe to that logic.
Title: Re: A big reason for our problems
Post by: pissclams on October 18, 2006, 11:46:27 AM: Quote from: PoetWarrior on October 18, 2006, 11:45:10 AM
The most meaningless stat in the history of the world.

Anyone going to turn down one minute TD drives?!
I honestly heard Herm Edwards talking about how Vermeil's offense was too "quick strike" on KK's show a few weeks back.
Title: Re: A big reason for our problems
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 18, 2006, 11:52:16 AM: Why score fast when you can not score at all.

Scoring seems so ... so ... mean.
Title: Re: A big reason for our problems
Post by: ksu_FAN on October 18, 2006, 12:36:09 PM: 2 major problems with this offense; 3rd down conversions and red zone offense.

28.3% on 3rd down conversions is horrendous. A big part of our 3rd down problems is that we are constantly in 3rd and long, which limits our options and makes things much easier for the defense. In our last 4 games, we've needed nearly 9 yards per 3rd down.

52.6% and only 4 TDs in 19 trips in the redzone is worse. 1st, we've made only 19 trips (lowest in the league) to the redzone. We've turned it over twice, turned it over on downs twice, and missed 3 FGs as well as had one blocked. Then we had one meaningless trip into the redzone where we ran out the clock (Marshall).

Of course, both of those are symptoms of overall problems with the offense. Our problems on 3rd down and in the redzone reflect overall issues in the offense that have been discussed over and over here. Until we can establish a running game consistently, find a way to mix things up either by formation or playcalling consistently, or make more big plays in the passing game, then those statistics will continue to drag the bottom of the league, and we'll struggle to win games.