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Title: &@#%ing Epps gets a buyout?
Post by: mikeycat on June 16, 2009, 08:22:28 PM
Seriously, I'm a long time season ticket holder.   Where's my buyout?
Title: Re: fracking Epps gets a buyout?
Post by: steve dave on June 16, 2009, 08:26:34 PM
 :frown:
Title: Re: fracking Epps gets a buyout?
Post by: Pett on June 16, 2009, 08:27:18 PM
I swear to fracking god I'm gonna injure Krause. :curse:
Title: Re: fracking Epps gets a buyout?
Post by: Pete on June 16, 2009, 08:41:59 PM
(http://www.kstatecollegian.com/polopoly_fs/1.1745186!image/1376334289.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_260/1376334289.jpg)

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Title: Re: fracking Epps gets a buyout?
Post by: pissclams on June 16, 2009, 08:52:17 PM
he gets a buyout if he's terminated without cause. 
he doesn't get a buyout if he's terminated with cause.
he doesn't get a buyout if he's not terminated.
with the mess our athletic dept is in, it would be difficult to not have cause to fire everyone that's ever worked near it.

now, chill the frack out.
Title: Re: fracking Epps gets a buyout?
Post by: Pete on June 16, 2009, 08:54:40 PM
he gets a buyout if he's terminated without cause. 
he doesn't get a buyout if he's terminated with cause.
he doesn't get a buyout if he's not terminated.
with the mess our athletic dept is in, it would be difficult to not have cause to fire everyone that's ever worked near it.

now, chill the frack out.

We'll refuse to pay it and will have a law suit on our hands, and will settle either way for half or so.
Title: Re: fracking Epps gets a buyout?
Post by: LimestoneOutcropping on June 16, 2009, 08:54:58 PM
Pete, Operation Garbage Truck* is in effect.








*Pete and I getting real drunk and confronting Weefs at the KC catbacker summerfest event on Thursday.
Title: Re: fracking Epps gets a buyout?
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 16, 2009, 08:55:50 PM
Bob Claus . . . the gift that just keeps on giving the whole year.



Title: Re: fracking Epps gets a buyout?
Post by: steve dave on June 16, 2009, 08:56:13 PM
Pete, Operation Garbage Truck* is in effect.








*Pete and I getting real drunk and confronting Weefs at the KC catbacker summerfest event on Thursday.

Great name for the operation.  Take cell phone vid if it goes down.
Title: Re: fracking Epps gets a buyout?
Post by: LimestoneOutcropping on June 16, 2009, 08:58:51 PM
Operation Garbage Truck update:  The event is sold out.  Pete and I are considering dressing as waiters or as former players to gain access.
Title: Re: fracking Epps gets a buyout?
Post by: steve dave on June 16, 2009, 08:59:38 PM
Operation Garbage Truck update:  The event is sold out.  Pete and I are considering dressing as waiters or as former players to gain access.

This thing seems more full of shenanigans by the minute  :dancin:
Title: Re: fracking Epps gets a buyout?
Post by: LimestoneOutcropping on June 16, 2009, 09:05:49 PM
OGT Update II:  Pete and are will be posing as wealthy industrialists and wind farmers from Finney county.  Mustaches will be present.
Title: Re: fracking Epps gets a buyout?
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 16, 2009, 09:06:48 PM
QGT Update II:  Pete and are will be posing as wealthy industrialists and wind farmers from Finney county.  Mustaches will be present.

Wear large belt buckles and alligator and snakeskin cowboy boots.

Title: Re: fracking Epps gets a buyout?
Post by: Pete on June 16, 2009, 09:10:56 PM
QGT Update II:  Pete and are will be posing as wealthy industrialists and wind farmers from Finney county.  Mustaches will be present.

Wear large belt buckles and alligator and snakeskin cowboy boots.



No way we can pull off being wind farmers dressed like that.
Title: Re: fracking Epps gets a buyout?
Post by: LimestoneOutcropping on June 16, 2009, 09:12:22 PM
QGT Update II:  Pete and are will be posing as wealthy industrialists and wind farmers from Finney county.  Mustaches will be present.

Wear large belt buckles and alligator and snakeskin cowboy boots.



No way we can pull off being wind farmers dressed like that.

QFT.  A shark like Weefs will sniff us out like a fart in a car dressed like that.
Title: Re: fracking Epps gets a buyout?
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 16, 2009, 09:14:55 PM
Okay . . . well, that settles that then.

Title: Re: fracking Epps gets a buyout?
Post by: Pete on June 16, 2009, 09:18:09 PM
QGT Update II:  Pete and are will be posing as wealthy industrialists and wind farmers from Finney county.  Mustaches will be present.

Wear large belt buckles and alligator and snakeskin cowboy boots.



No way we can pull off being wind farmers dressed like that.

QFT.  A shark like Weefs will sniff us out like a fart in a car dressed like that.

We gotta go like this:

(https://www.wizardacademypress.com/ProdImages/full/Petermanbig.jpg)


Also,  looks like the hate wagon is getting good and warmed up for it's trip to Weefer's house... :eek:

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Whatever good things Wefald did are dead to me. His affirmative action hire of the fraud is what started all of this. He makes me sick. I'd like to take them both out back and beat the sh@t out of them.



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Title: Re: fracking Epps gets a buyout?
Post by: LimestoneOutcropping on June 16, 2009, 09:20:40 PM
OGT Update III:  I have secured a Hybrid Ford F-350 dualie with Finney County vanity plate "WIND$"
Title: Re: fracking Epps gets a buyout?
Post by: catzacker on June 16, 2009, 09:35:57 PM
dear christ.  we're approaching 11 million dollars in buyout money for Krausketeers. for f*ck sake, the goddamn stadium renovation in '98 cost something like 13million.
Title: Re: fracking Epps gets a buyout?
Post by: A-Lishious on June 16, 2009, 09:43:19 PM
Pete, Operation Garbage Truck* is in effect.








*Pete and I getting real drunk and confronting Weefs at the KC catbacker summerfest event on Thursday.

Great name for the operation.  Take cell phone vid if it goes down.

Frack me... i want go to this badboy.  :cheers: Sounds like pure madness... my kind of scene.  :runaway:
Title: Re: fracking Epps gets a buyout?
Post by: LimestoneOutcropping on June 16, 2009, 09:49:15 PM
Pete, Operation Garbage Truck* is in effect.








*Pete and I getting real drunk and confronting Weefs at the KC catbacker summerfest event on Thursday.

Great name for the operation.  Take cell phone vid if it goes down.

Frack me... i want go to this badboy.  :cheers: Sounds like pure madness... my kind of scene.  :runaway:

We need an androgenous man-servant for Pete's character...you're in.
Title: Re: fracking Epps gets a buyout?
Post by: Pete on June 16, 2009, 09:54:13 PM
Pete, Operation Garbage Truck* is in effect.








*Pete and I getting real drunk and confronting Weefs at the KC catbacker summerfest event on Thursday.

Great name for the operation.  Take cell phone vid if it goes down.

Frack me... i want go to this badboy.  :cheers: Sounds like pure madness... my kind of scene.  :runaway:

We need an androgenous man-servant for Pete's character...you're in.

Jesus this is going to be great.  I will call him Scooter.
Title: Re: fracking Epps gets a buyout?
Post by: kougar24 on June 16, 2009, 10:21:13 PM
JFC.

 :blank:
Title: Re: fracking Epps gets a buyout?
Post by: Trim on June 16, 2009, 10:33:16 PM
Operation Garbage Truck update:  The event is sold out.  Pete and I are considering dressing as waiters or as former players to gain access.

Still seats available here:

http://www.ksufans.com/forums/index.php?topic=41431.0

QGT Update II:  Pete and are will be posing as wealthy industrialists and wind farmers from Finney county.  Mustaches will be present.

Wear large belt buckles and alligator and snakeskin cowboy boots.


A buddy of mine from GC who has to frequently interact with Finney County wealthy industrialists and wind farmers bought some cowboy boots when we were in OKC on Memorial Day weekend.  Ostrich skin.  There was a LONG discussion over how well those would go over.  So far all reports are that Finney Countians are down with the ostrich.
Title: Re: fracking Epps gets a buyout?
Post by: GoldbrickGangBoss on June 16, 2009, 10:48:55 PM
he gets a buyout if he's terminated without cause.  
he doesn't get a buyout if he's terminated with cause.
he doesn't get a buyout if he's not terminated.
with the mess our athletic dept is in, it would be difficult to not have cause to fire everyone that's ever worked near it.

now, chill the frack out.

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“If the termination were deemed to be not ‘for cause,’ then they would essentially be paying him as if he were an employee until June 14, 2013,” Fincher said. “Under the agreement, it’s not really clear what ‘for cause’ means in this instance. “Lots of times employers, for purposes of certainty, will want to very clearly define what a ‘for cause’ event means. Otherwise, you leave it to the courts or some other arbiter to figure out whether or not the termination event was truly for cause or without cause.”

So what was the cause? They flat out said it wasn't for disciplinary reasons if I remember correctly.

Pay up Bish.
Title: Re: fracking Epps gets a buyout?
Post by: kougar24 on June 16, 2009, 11:08:04 PM
I think it's going to be hard to cite "cause" after Currie himself made the following statement:


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"What I can tell you is all I can tell you," Currie said in a telephone interview. "The second sentence of our statement is pretty instructive."

The second sentence states, "This decision is not based upon any concerns about misconduct on the part of either individual."

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=4249813

:dunno:
Title: Re: fracking Epps gets a buyout?
Post by: Pett on June 16, 2009, 11:10:58 PM
What are the chances that Currie re-signs if another secret buyout is found out about?
Title: Re: fracking Epps gets a buyout?
Post by: CerpinTaxt on June 16, 2009, 11:14:20 PM
I swear to fracking god I'm gonna injure murder Krause. :curse:
and I'll help you do it
Title: Re: fracking Epps gets a buyout?
Post by: Bookcat on June 16, 2009, 11:17:38 PM
Man, Howie's Trash Service is sure getting expensive.  :mad:
Title: Re: fracking Epps gets a buyout?
Post by: pissclams on June 16, 2009, 11:24:33 PM
he gets a buyout if he's terminated without cause.  
he doesn't get a buyout if he's terminated with cause.
he doesn't get a buyout if he's not terminated.
with the mess our athletic dept is in, it would be difficult to not have cause to fire everyone that's ever worked near it.

now, chill the frack out.

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“If the termination were deemed to be not ‘for cause,’ then they would essentially be paying him as if he were an employee until June 14, 2013,” Fincher said. “Under the agreement, it’s not really clear what ‘for cause’ means in this instance. “Lots of times employers, for purposes of certainty, will want to very clearly define what a ‘for cause’ event means. Otherwise, you leave it to the courts or some other arbiter to figure out whether or not the termination event was truly for cause or without cause.”

So what was the cause? They flat out said it wasn't for disciplinary reasons if I remember correctly.

Pay up Bish.
Epps has not been terminated.  he is on suspension.  the reason for the suspension is to allow Currie to investigate the past events that occurred, not because of insubordination.  Currie is correct in his assertion that Epps is on suspension for reasons other than disciplinary reasons.  Currie has not commented on anything beyond Epps' suspension.   the ultimate reason Currie uncovers as to why the events occurred may be cause for Epps' termination at which time Currie will have the pass he needs to do what needs to be done without worrying about paying Epps a dime.

logic, use it.  he can't say Epps was insubordinate before being able to prove it.
Title: Re: fracking Epps gets a buyout?
Post by: Iceberg on June 17, 2009, 08:45:08 AM
OGT Update II:  Pete and are will be posing as wealthy industrialists and wind farmers from Finney county.  Mustaches will be present.

Make it Grey county and you'll be more accurate.
Title: Re: fracking Epps gets a buyout?
Post by: LimestoneOutcropping on June 17, 2009, 09:34:36 AM
OGT Update II:  Pete and are will be posing as wealthy industrialists and wind farmers from Finney county.  Mustaches will be present.

Make it Grey county and you'll be more accurate.

Please.
Title: Re: fracking Epps gets a buyout?
Post by: Kat Kid on June 17, 2009, 10:15:49 AM
Definitely make it clear that you send your kids to/live in HOLCOMB NOT GARDEN CITY!  Lots of white people from Finney make this extremely clear, multiple times to whoever is within shouting distance.
Title: Re: fracking Epps gets a buyout?
Post by: steve dave on June 17, 2009, 10:18:03 AM
Definitely make it clear that you send your kids to/live in HOLCOMB NOT GARDEN CITY!  Lots of white people from Finney make this extremely clear, multiple times to whoever is within shouting distance.

lol, so true
Title: Re: fracking Epps gets a buyout?
Post by: Oklahoma_Cat on June 17, 2009, 10:20:30 AM
Definitely make it clear that you send your kids to/live in HOLCOMB NOT GARDEN CITY!  Lots of white people from Finney make this extremely clear, multiple times to whoever is within shouting distance.

Very true.  Holcomb has lots of rich farm-y kids.  Not everybody can handle the mean halls of GCHS like OK_Cat and Chingon.
Title: Re: fracking Epps gets a buyout?
Post by: Kat Kid on June 17, 2009, 10:24:13 AM
I was out there last week and learned that the big pool they have out there is not actually for recreational purposes, but rather serves as a bathtub for Garden City's Spanish population, Chingon can you confirm/deny?
Title: Re: fracking Epps gets a buyout?
Post by: Oklahoma_Cat on June 17, 2009, 10:44:16 AM
While we wait for Chingon's mexican answer, I will confirm that they use the big pool as a bathtub for the elephants across the street at the zoo during the winter.
Title: Re: fracking Epps gets a buyout?
Post by: vanro03 on June 17, 2009, 02:50:20 PM
K-State may have another buyout
Kansas State must reinstate Jim Epps as its deputy athletic director or face the prospect of another expensive buyout.

Records obtained by The Topeka Capital-Journal show that Epps would be owed the remaining value of a five-year contract he signed in 2008 should he be terminated without cause, a buyout worth roughly $900,000 as it stands.

Epps, who was placed on indefinite administrative leave last week by new athletic director John Currie, earns $225,000.01 annually under the five-year agreement that took effect in June 2008. In the event of early termination, Epps would be entitled to the full salary through June 2013.

Max Urick, a former athletic director at K-State and Iowa State, said it was unusual for an associate AD to receive a multi-year contract.

“There would have to be some really compelling reasons for that to take place,” said Urick, who directed K-State’s athletic department from 1993-2001. “That doesn’t mean it doesn’t take place, but it is unusual in my opinion, and there would have to be some very compelling reasons for that to occur.”

Asked if he could envision a scenario in which such a deal would be warranted, Urick replied, “Nothing comes to mind quickly. If someone is that outstanding, then maybe they ought to be the athletic director.”

Epps’ contract is the latest in a string of expensive deals brokered during Bob Krause's tenure as athletic director. Krause's predecessor, Tim Weiser, received a $1.9 million settlement from the university, and K-State recently discovered an agreement that would pay former football coach Ron Prince $3.2 million on top of the $1.2 million buyout written into his contract. The university has filed suit seeking to invalidate the agreement.

Research conducted by The Capital-Journal revealed that the University of Kansas does not give contracts to its associate athletic directors, but K-State attorney Jacque Butler said Epps' agreement was not out of the ordinary for K-State.

“I don’t really have a comment on that,” she said. “I wouldn’t say it’s unusual, I guess. I’ll just tell you, some employees have addendums and some don’t.”

The five-year contract was written in the form of an employment addendum to Epps’ one-year term appointment and signed by Epps, Krause and former president Jon Wefald.

Butler declined to comment on K-State’s potential liability should Epps be terminated as deputy AD.

“I don’t want to be giving any kind of legal interpretation of the contract,” Butler said. “I think that puts me at odds with my duties to my client.”

Doug Fincher, a Topeka lawyer asked to provide an independent interpretation of the deal, verified that the agreement appears to commit K-State to the remaining balance of Epps’ salary unless he is fired for cause.

“If the termination were deemed to be not ‘for cause,’ then they would essentially be paying him as if he were an employee until June 14, 2013,” Fincher said. “Under the agreement, it’s not really clear what ‘for cause’ means in this instance. “Lots of times employers, for purposes of certainty, will want to very clearly define what a ‘for cause’ event means. Otherwise, you leave it to the courts or some other arbiter to figure out whether or not the termination event was truly for cause or without cause.”

The term appointment does list certain actions that could result in suspension without pay or termination, including NCAA violations, criminal convictions or “any conduct that constitutes moral turpitude, or which would tend to bring public disrespect, contempt or ridicule upon Kansas State University.”

Epps’ future at the university was cast into doubt when he and associate AD Bob Cavello were placed on paid leave last week. Currie said the decision to suspend the two longtime administrators was not based on concerns of misconduct but declined further comment. Epps did not return a phone message.

Epps, a 30-year veteran of K-State’s athletic department, has served in the deputy AD role since April 2008. The position gave Epps responsibility for the day-to-day operations of the department as Krause’s second-in-command.

The employment addendum does not address the possibility of reassigning Epps to another position within the department, but Fincher said it’s possible K-State would owe the full value of the contract regardless.

“Looking at the contract, it appears that K-State and Epps have agreed that if his employment specifically as deputy director of athletics is terminated, that’s the triggering event,” Fincher said. “The contract doesn’t clearly provide that they could reassign him somewhere laterally within the administration and not trigger that early termination provision.”

A request for Cavello’s contract returned only a one-year term agreement under which he received a base salary of $120,854. Butler said there were no other financial agreements in place for Cavello.
Title: Re: fracking Epps gets a buyout?
Post by: KSUTOMMY on June 17, 2009, 07:42:44 PM
What in the FiretrUCK is going on here? This all stems from Weef... legacy done. The Weef will be remembered for trying to bankrupt this university through senility - nothing more.
Title: Re: fracking Epps gets a buyout?
Post by: yoman on June 17, 2009, 10:08:51 PM
you know what's sad? bob krause's name is on a bench out side of the vanier complex.
Title: Re: fracking Epps gets a buyout?
Post by: The42Yardstick on June 18, 2009, 11:37:02 AM
you know what's sad? bob krause's name is on a bench out side of the vanier complex.

You should take a dump on it
Title: Re: fracking Epps gets a buyout?
Post by: SUPERKSUFAN on June 18, 2009, 11:38:32 AM
Anyone else meet him - man, this guy was/is a real dick head in person
Title: Re: fracking Epps gets a buyout?
Post by: LimestoneOutcropping on June 18, 2009, 11:44:58 AM
you know what's sad? bob krause's name is on a bench out side of the vanier complex.

You should take a dump on it

Operation Angry Weasel will handle the bench.  Please leave as-is for now.  TIA
Title: Re: fracking Epps gets a buyout?
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 18, 2009, 11:45:59 AM
It's all part of a vast conspiracy to keep people quiet.

Warmest Regards:

Doc "hey big J what's your take on this, and can I give you a reach around" StalkSmith
JayHoax
BigJkutard (expert on everything)
Title: Re: fracking Epps gets a buyout?
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 18, 2009, 10:54:18 PM
It was a secret slush fund to get recruits (for that big 2015 recruiting class). 

Best Wishes:

Tardville