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Title: MLB Draft
Post by: bigDcat on June 08, 2009, 01:21:00 AM
is on tuesday. will be interesting to see when A.J. will be picked. i would guess third round. heres his report.
http://www.withthefirstpick.net/aj-morris (http://www.withthefirstpick.net/aj-morris)

Title: Re: MLB Draft
Post by: PowercatPat on June 08, 2009, 09:17:32 AM
Has AJ declared yet?
Title: Re: MLB Draft
Post by: cas on June 08, 2009, 10:04:14 AM
You don't declare. They pick you and if you want to go you go.
Title: Re: MLB Draft
Post by: KCcat28 on June 08, 2009, 10:28:05 AM
You don't declare. They pick you and if you want to go you go.

Exactly... This is part of the reason why there are 50 or so rounds plus supplemental picks... About 1/4 or so of players that each team drafts is unlikely to sign, especially players selected in the late rounds.
Title: Re: MLB Draft
Post by: bigDcat on June 09, 2009, 12:39:24 AM
heres a link to a video from mlb.com
http://mlb.mlb.com/media/video.jsp?topic_id=4961152&content_id=4738639 (http://mlb.mlb.com/media/video.jsp?topic_id=4961152&content_id=4738639)
fastball high 80s/low 90s
curveball high 70s
Title: Re: MLB Draft
Post by: KCcat28 on June 09, 2009, 03:55:00 PM
I'm gonna say Morris goes late 2nd to early 3rd round...
Title: Re: MLB Draft
Post by: Pett on June 09, 2009, 05:21:37 PM
I'm gonna say Morris goes late 2nd to early 3rd round...

He'd most likely go if he went this high, correct?
Title: Re: MLB Draft
Post by: KCcat28 on June 09, 2009, 05:27:46 PM
I'm gonna say Morris goes late 2nd to early 3rd round...

He'd most likely go if he went this high, correct?

Unless he doesn't get the money he wants... Considering he had probably his best season he will ever have this year I'd say he needs to go now or risk something bad happening next year...
Title: Re: MLB Draft
Post by: doom on June 09, 2009, 05:34:10 PM
I'm gonna say Morris goes late 2nd to early 3rd round...

He'd most likely go if he went this high, correct?

Unless he doesn't get the money he wants... Considering he had probably his best season he will ever have this year I'd say he needs to go now or risk something bad happening next year... like winning the CWS

Don't listen to these bastards, A.J!  But seriously how does the MLB get away with drafting kids and then letting them choose?  Could the NFL or NBA change their systems to make that work for them? 
Title: Re: MLB Draft
Post by: KCcat28 on June 09, 2009, 05:41:07 PM
Pittsburgh with the first questionable pick in the draft... They just brought up their catcher of the future and now they select a decent catcher with the 4th pick... very interesting...
Title: Re: MLB Draft
Post by: Chingon on June 09, 2009, 05:47:43 PM
My mock draft has been spot on.  No misses thus far.

How you doing 0506?  Not as well I bet.
Title: Re: MLB Draft
Post by: doom on June 09, 2009, 06:09:36 PM
 :curse:
Title: Re: MLB Draft
Post by: KCcat28 on June 09, 2009, 06:18:50 PM
Looking through everyone that was left this was probably one of the better choices they could have made to select Crow... I think taking that shortstop Grant Greene would have been a good pick to but I think Crow was a safe pick and will be solid for the Royals in the future.
Title: Re: MLB Draft
Post by: bigDcat on June 09, 2009, 06:59:38 PM
Kyle Gibson, Missouri pitcher, goes 22nd to the Twins
Title: Re: MLB Draft
Post by: steve dave on June 09, 2009, 07:14:02 PM
My mock draft has been spot on.  No misses thus far.

How you doing 0506?  Not as well I bet.
:lol:
Title: Re: MLB Draft
Post by: hemmy on June 09, 2009, 08:08:10 PM
I'm gonna say Morris goes late 2nd to early 3rd round...

He'd most likely go if he went this high, correct?

Unless he doesn't get the money he wants... Considering he had probably his best season he will ever have this year I'd say he needs to go now or risk something bad happening next year... like winning the CWS

Don't listen to these bastards, A.J!  But seriously how does the MLB get away with drafting kids and then letting them choose?  Could the NFL or NBA change their systems to make that work for them? 

It works because of the minor leagues, would NEVER work in the NFL.
Title: Re: MLB Draft
Post by: bigDcat on June 09, 2009, 08:09:04 PM
Baylor's LHP Aaron Miller selected 36th by the Dodgers
Title: Re: MLB Draft
Post by: bigDcat on June 09, 2009, 08:59:07 PM
end of the 2nd round...
Title: Re: MLB Draft
Post by: doom on June 09, 2009, 10:57:40 PM
Glad to have you back, AJ!  :AA:
Title: Re: MLB Draft
Post by: KCcat28 on June 09, 2009, 11:42:25 PM
Yeah i'd say he should come back now... obviously teams aren't buying the hype and they think he is just a one year wonder... His signing bonus will be nothing special now the he will be in the 4+ round range... I say he should come back now.
Title: Re: MLB Draft
Post by: mizzousteve on June 10, 2009, 08:23:08 AM
Yeah i'd say he should come back now... obviously teams aren't buying the hype and they think he is just a one year wonder... His signing bonus will be nothing special now the he will be in the 4+ round range... I say he should come back now.

He'll still almost certainly leave. He'll also still get a good signing bonus too. If he comes back he will have no leverage.
Title: Re: MLB Draft
Post by: jeffy on June 10, 2009, 08:34:02 AM
so the Royals to Hochever Junior?
Title: Re: MLB Draft
Post by: mizzousteve on June 10, 2009, 08:52:24 AM
so the Royals to Hochever Junior?

Crow is a much better pitching prospect than Hochevar IMO. Throws with more velocity and is more of a competitor.
Title: Re: MLB Draft
Post by: KCcat28 on June 10, 2009, 10:45:26 AM
Yeah i'd say he should come back now... obviously teams aren't buying the hype and they think he is just a one year wonder... His signing bonus will be nothing special now the he will be in the 4+ round range... I say he should come back now.

He'll still almost certainly leave. He'll also still get a good signing bonus too. If he comes back he will have no leverage.

I don't get what would make you think his signing bonus is gonna be all that high... You have to think that the reason why one of the best pitchers in college baseball this past season hasn't been taken yet is because teams are worried about a one year wonder situation and he would flame out once in the minors...
Title: Re: MLB Draft
Post by: LimestoneOutcropping on June 10, 2009, 10:59:36 AM
So Hochevar the second had better sign QUICKLY or he is an idiot.
Title: Re: MLB Draft
Post by: Paul11 on June 10, 2009, 11:26:03 AM
Morris drafted with the 112th pick by the Nationals.
Title: Re: MLB Draft
Post by: KCcat28 on June 10, 2009, 11:29:01 AM
Morris drafted with the 112th pick by the Nationals.

This may be good... the Nats are going to be throwing the bank at Strasburg... probably won't have much else to offer Morris after that...

Edit: Oh and Daris what do you think about the Royals taking a catcher with their 2nd pick?  :jerkoff:
Title: Re: MLB Draft
Post by: EmporiaWildcat on June 10, 2009, 11:36:29 AM
Morris drafted with the 112th pick by the Nationals.

Hopefully AJ follows MLB and realizes that the Nats are a horrible organization and comes back in 2010. :pray:
Title: Re: MLB Draft
Post by: mizzousteve on June 10, 2009, 11:42:29 AM
Yeah i'd say he should come back now... obviously teams aren't buying the hype and they think he is just a one year wonder... His signing bonus will be nothing special now the he will be in the 4+ round range... I say he should come back now.

He'll still almost certainly leave. He'll also still get a good signing bonus too. If he comes back he will have no leverage.

I don't get what would make you think his signing bonus is gonna be all that high... You have to think that the reason why one of the best pitchers in college baseball this past season hasn't been taken yet is because teams are worried about a one year wonder situation and he would flame out once in the minors...

The 4th round is very high in a 50 round draft. I can only think of a couple of college juniors that have been taken in the 5th round or better that have ever come back to college. It is extremely rare. AJ will get offered a bonus of at least $100,000 I would say. I think it'll be difficult to turn down because he won't get a better offer next year.
Title: Re: MLB Draft
Post by: KCcat28 on June 10, 2009, 11:46:41 AM
Yeah i'd say he should come back now... obviously teams aren't buying the hype and they think he is just a one year wonder... His signing bonus will be nothing special now the he will be in the 4+ round range... I say he should come back now.

He'll still almost certainly leave. He'll also still get a good signing bonus too. If he comes back he will have no leverage.

I don't get what would make you think his signing bonus is gonna be all that high... You have to think that the reason why one of the best pitchers in college baseball this past season hasn't been taken yet is because teams are worried about a one year wonder situation and he would flame out once in the minors...

The 4th round is very high in a 50 round draft. I can only think of a couple of college juniors that have been taken in the 5th round or better that have ever come back to college. It is extremely rare. AJ will get offered a bonus of at least $100,000 I would say. I think it'll be difficult to turn down because he won't get a better offer next year.

So if he comes back next year and does exactly what he did this year or close to you think he will still be a 4th round or so pick with a somewhat small signing bonus? If he comes back and does what he did this year he has to be a top 2 round draft pick ... if not a top 15 overall pick...
Title: Re: MLB Draft
Post by: mizzousteve on June 10, 2009, 11:57:58 AM
Yeah i'd say he should come back now... obviously teams aren't buying the hype and they think he is just a one year wonder... His signing bonus will be nothing special now the he will be in the 4+ round range... I say he should come back now.

He'll still almost certainly leave. He'll also still get a good signing bonus too. If he comes back he will have no leverage.

I don't get what would make you think his signing bonus is gonna be all that high... You have to think that the reason why one of the best pitchers in college baseball this past season hasn't been taken yet is because teams are worried about a one year wonder situation and he would flame out once in the minors...

The 4th round is very high in a 50 round draft. I can only think of a couple of college juniors that have been taken in the 5th round or better that have ever come back to college. It is extremely rare. AJ will get offered a bonus of at least $100,000 I would say. I think it'll be difficult to turn down because he won't get a better offer next year.

So if he comes back next year and does exactly what he did this year or close to you think he will still be a 4th round or so pick with a somewhat small signing bonus? If he comes back and does what he did this year he has to be a top 2 round draft pick ... if not a top 15 overall pick...

I doubt he would go higher. Maybe a round or two if he came close to replicating this past season's performance. At that point he would have no leverage so I doubt he would get a better bonus which is more important ultimately than where you are picked.

I'm obviously not a scout and I think AJ is a very good pitcher but he doesn't hit 95 on the gun that often and isn't 6'5'' either. That has more to do with where he was picked than teams wondering if he is a one year wonder IMHO.
Title: Re: MLB Draft
Post by: Rick Daris on June 10, 2009, 12:03:36 PM
Morris drafted with the 112th pick by the Nationals.

This may be good... the Nats are going to be throwing the bank at Strasburg... probably won't have much else to offer Morris after that...

Edit: Oh and Daris what do you think about the Royals taking a catcher with their 2nd pick?  :jerkoff:

I think he's an 18 yr old catcher/third basemen who will never be a catcher in the major leagues. sounds like he has a great bat though. hopefully the royals can sign him, get him into a corner outfield position and if everything works out he'll be up to help out in four or five years.
Title: Re: MLB Draft
Post by: EmporiaWildcat on June 10, 2009, 12:04:48 PM
http://www.kstatesports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=3226&SPID=222&DB_OEM_ID=400&ATCLID=3748719

Posted in record speed
Title: Re: MLB Draft
Post by: KCcat28 on June 10, 2009, 12:19:34 PM
Well I think we know what management wants in this draft... They have drafted 4 right handed pitchers, 2 left handers, and 2 catchers...
Title: Re: MLB Draft
Post by: Paul11 on June 10, 2009, 02:47:28 PM
Bloxom drafted with the 322nd pick again by the Nats. The nations capitol loves us.  :ksu: We should change the Royals sign to a Nationals sign. Just a though.
Title: Re: MLB Draft
Post by: Winters on June 10, 2009, 03:33:18 PM
 :kstatriot:
Title: Re: MLB Draft
Post by: QuinnMac on June 10, 2009, 10:07:50 PM
Yeah i'd say he should come back now... obviously teams aren't buying the hype and they think he is just a one year wonder... His signing bonus will be nothing special now the he will be in the 4+ round range... I say he should come back now.

He'll still almost certainly leave. He'll also still get a good signing bonus too. If he comes back he will have no leverage.

I don't get what would make you think his signing bonus is gonna be all that high... You have to think that the reason why one of the best pitchers in college baseball this past season hasn't been taken yet is because teams are worried about a one year wonder situation and he would flame out once in the minors...

The 4th round is very high in a 50 round draft. I can only think of a couple of college juniors that have been taken in the 5th round or better that have ever come back to college. It is extremely rare. AJ will get offered a bonus of at least $100,000 I would say. I think it'll be difficult to turn down because he won't get a better offer next year.

So if he comes back next year and does exactly what he did this year or close to you think he will still be a 4th round or so pick with a somewhat small signing bonus? If he comes back and does what he did this year he has to be a top 2 round draft pick ... if not a top 15 overall pick...
Doubt it scouts are not impressed with his arm

Best link I could find: 2006 Top 10 Bonuses (http://www.angelfire.com/vt/prospectwatch/index1551.html)
Title: Re: MLB Draft
Post by: k-state87 on June 10, 2009, 10:36:10 PM
Here are the K-State players that have been drafted so far:

P A.J. Morris 4th Round (112 overall) Washington Nationals

1B Justin Bloxom 11th round (322 overall) Washington Nationals

SS Drew Biery 22nd round (657 overall) San Francisco Giants

C Rob Vaughn 30th round (913 overall) Chicago White Sox

 :kstatriot:

Quote
Kansas State signee Gerardo Esquivel, who just completed his senior season at De La Salle Institute in Chicago, Ill., was also selected on Wednesday. The right-handed pitcher was taken by the Chicago Cubs with the 29th pick in the 24th round (No. 740 overall).

^Gerardo Esquivel needs to come to K-State, the Cubs suck.

 :ksu: :kstatriot:
Title: Re: MLB Draft
Post by: CrushNasty on June 11, 2009, 12:22:36 AM
so the Royals to Hochever Junior?

Crow is a much better pitching prospect than Hochevar IMO. Throws with more velocity and is more of a competitor.

 :rolleyes:
Went to high school with Crow.  Competitor? That guy sucked at dodgeball and now he's going to be a MLB pitcher?
Title: Re: MLB Draft
Post by: Paul11 on June 11, 2009, 09:25:01 AM
Esquivel is 6-1, 170 lbs. Threw a one-hitter against Kenwood while striking out 13.

Obviously he is expected to accept the scholarship than sign.  :ksu:
Title: Re: MLB Draft
Post by: mizzousteve on June 11, 2009, 11:16:46 AM
so the Royals to Hochever Junior?

Crow is a much better pitching prospect than Hochevar IMO. Throws with more velocity and is more of a competitor.

 :rolleyes:
Went to high school with Crow.  Competitor? That guy sucked at dodgeball and now he's going to be a MLB pitcher?

He went 13-0 his junior year at Mizzou and had a 40+ scoreless inning streak at one point in the heart of the Big XII schedule. Yeah, he sucks.
Title: Re: MLB Draft
Post by: KCcat28 on June 11, 2009, 11:21:54 AM
so the Royals to Hochever Junior?

Crow is a much better pitching prospect than Hochevar IMO. Throws with more velocity and is more of a competitor.

 :rolleyes:
Went to high school with Crow.  Competitor? That guy sucked at dodgeball and now he's going to be a MLB pitcher?

He went 13-0 his junior year at Mizzou and had a 40+ scoreless inning streak at one point in the heart of the Big XII schedule. Yeah, he sucks.

Na I think Crow is really good... He will have a better career than Hochevar ever will. I just want to get one thing clear with ya MS, are you saying that Morris isn't good?
Title: Re: MLB Draft
Post by: mizzousteve on June 11, 2009, 12:50:29 PM
so the Royals to Hochever Junior?

Crow is a much better pitching prospect than Hochevar IMO. Throws with more velocity and is more of a competitor.

 :rolleyes:
Went to high school with Crow.  Competitor? That guy sucked at dodgeball and now he's going to be a MLB pitcher?

He went 13-0 his junior year at Mizzou and had a 40+ scoreless inning streak at one point in the heart of the Big XII schedule. Yeah, he sucks.

Na I think Crow is really good... He will have a better career than Hochevar ever will. I just want to get one thing clear with ya MS, are you saying that Morris isn't good?

No, I think AJ Morris is really good. You don't get drafted that high if you are not. I didn't see him pitch in person this season, but in watching him in the Regionals and against Baylor in the Big XII Tournament I am impressed. He put together one of the best seasons in Big XII history on the mound too. If I was the Nationals I would throw a lot of money at him and ignore the whole slotting issue. K-State fasn should be very proud of what he, Vaughn, Bloxom, and Biery accomplished in turning around the program.
Title: Re: MLB Draft
Post by: CrushNasty on June 12, 2009, 09:22:38 AM
so the Royals to Hochever Junior?

Crow is a much better pitching prospect than Hochevar IMO. Throws with more velocity and is more of a competitor.

 :rolleyes:
Went to high school with Crow.  Competitor? That guy sucked at dodgeball and now he's going to be a MLB pitcher?

He went 13-0 his junior year at Mizzou and had a 40+ scoreless inning streak at one point in the heart of the Big XII schedule. Yeah, he sucks.

That was half sarcastic after the first sentence.  He improved a ton at mizzou, he could be a good pick for KC, but I mean he wasn't a great athlete in high school really.  But yes, now, he can deal.
Title: Re: MLB Draft
Post by: LimestoneOutcropping on June 12, 2009, 04:59:44 PM
Hoch put up some sick numbers at Tennessee too.  I think he and Crow project about the same.