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Title: jon and kate
Post by: Rick Daris on May 07, 2009, 01:21:30 PM
guys,

you think all these horrible rumors are true. i sure hope not, but i really don't know. been trying to get more info all morning on the j&k message boards but to no avail.

you guys think the guy in that video leaving that house was really him? you guys really think he'd cheat on kate? what do you guys think this will do to the kids? i mean, we all know how sensitive maddy is. i dunno. feel free to weigh in here. i'll moderate conversation kind of tight here though so def be aware of this. don't need any mudslinging here. just good, honest j/k opinions as well as any substantiated facts. thanks.
Title: Re: jon and kate
Post by: steve dave on May 07, 2009, 01:22:38 PM
Kate is mean
Title: Re: jon and kate
Post by: EllToPay on May 07, 2009, 01:24:53 PM
Ok, might be kinda dumb, but I'm lost.

:dunno:
Title: Re: jon and kate
Post by: yoga-lika_abana on May 07, 2009, 01:28:08 PM
Kate is mean
Definetly true. Cheating has to be true who wouldn't cheat on Kate.

Wouldn't even let Aunt Jodi get any money I mean GMAFB Kate. http://truthbreedshatred.blogspot.com/
Title: Re: jon and kate
Post by: Oklahoma_Cat on May 07, 2009, 01:28:51 PM
Jon and Kate plus 9, if you know what I mean.

Title: Re: jon and kate
Post by: Rick Daris on May 07, 2009, 01:54:37 PM
Jon and Kate plus 9, if you know what I mean.



 :comehere:

oklahomacat-

this is the exact type of disgusting, abhorrent j&k personal attacks that i would like to avoid in this thread. you might want to look at the original post where i stated something to this effect. i believe the goslings have earned this much. i've docked you one point and reported this to the moderators. this should also serve as a warning to future thread posters.

thanks,
rick
Title: Re: jon and kate
Post by: willie83 on May 07, 2009, 01:58:29 PM
Kate treats Jon like sh#t, I'd go find a nice whore, too. He seems like a good guy.
Title: Re: jon and kate
Post by: Rick Daris on May 07, 2009, 02:08:37 PM
Kate treats Jon like sh#t, I'd go find a nice whore, too. He seems like a good guy.

willie83,

i'll go ahead and give you just a warning here. stating gossip as fact is a good way to get reported and/or get a point taken away. let's try and be a little more thoughful with our comments here.

thanks,
rick
Title: Re: jon and kate
Post by: ew2x4 on May 07, 2009, 02:10:25 PM
Kate treats Jon like sh#t, I'd go find a nice whore, too. He seems like a good guy.

willie83,

i'll go ahead and give you just a warning here. stating gossip as fact is a good way to get reported and/or get a point taken away. let's try and be a little more thoughful with our comments here.

thanks,
rick

You're really close to not being a cub.
Title: Re: jon and kate
Post by: Brock Landers on May 07, 2009, 02:12:15 PM
Good for John, Kate is a terrible person.  They will need to come up with a new title for next season's shows:


Kate plus 8.

John Ate But it Wasn't Kate

John and Kate Equals Hate

Kate and That Crazy Octomom plus 22


Title: Re: jon and kate
Post by: steve dave on May 07, 2009, 02:14:00 PM
Kate and That Crazy Octomom plus 22




would watch
Title: Re: jon and kate
Post by: yoga-lika_abana on May 07, 2009, 02:15:05 PM


John Ate But it Wasn't Kate

:lol:
Title: Re: jon and kate
Post by: pissclams on May 07, 2009, 02:18:21 PM
Kate treats Jon like sh#t, I'd go find a nice whore, too. He seems like a good guy.

willie83,

i'll go ahead and give you just a warning here. stating gossip as fact is a good way to get reported and/or get a point taken away. let's try and be a little more thoughful with our comments here.

thanks,
rick
if you don't stop with the poster intimidation, i will stop it for you. 
Title: Re: jon and kate
Post by: Oklahoma_Cat on May 07, 2009, 02:20:53 PM
Jon and Kate plus 9, if you know what I mean.



 :comehere:

oklahomacat-

this is the exact type of disgusting, abhorrent j&k personal attacks that i would like to avoid in this thread. you might want to look at the original post where i stated something to this effect. i believe the goslings have earned this much. i've docked you one point and reported this to the moderators. this should also serve as a warning to future thread posters.

thanks,
rick

rick daris,

whoa, bra.  i believe in the sanctity of marriage, and i want nothing but happiness for my favorite television family.  i am just letting you know what i heard, so that in case it is true then you will have had a chance to mentally (and physically?) prepare yourself.  i'm keeping my fingers crossed that susan at my office was just lying to me, she was kinda having a bad day.

peace,

okcat
Title: Re: jon and kate
Post by: Rick Daris on May 07, 2009, 02:28:33 PM
Kate treats Jon like sh#t, I'd go find a nice whore, too. He seems like a good guy.

willie83,

i'll go ahead and give you just a warning here. stating gossip as fact is a good way to get reported and/or get a point taken away. let's try and be a little more thoughful with our comments here.

thanks,
rick
if you don't stop with the poster intimidation, i will stop it for you. 

clams,

Ha, the way that you responded almost makes it look like you're replying to me. HA! LOL! don't be so hard on willie83, i'm pretty sure that he didn't realize this comments were out of bounds. this just isn't one of those "types" of threads and i think he knows it now. anyway, i've already taken care of it with the warning, but thanks any.

-Rick
Title: Re: jon and kate
Post by: Rick Daris on May 07, 2009, 02:31:18 PM
guys,

good news. goslin_fan85 from the "other board" is reporting that these rumors were started by a former disgruntled key grip for j/k/8 staff. hope this turns out to be true and we can all have a good laugh about what a crazy last 48 hours it's been.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: jon and kate
Post by: Rick Daris on May 07, 2009, 03:09:08 PM
meanwhile...things are beginning to heat up over on the sweetin boards. lot's of good j/k talk over on there. haven't been over there since the news broke until just now but they have some very knowledgable j/k posters and always have great open discussion with no namecalling/fingerpointing.

http://www.sweetin.com/cgi-local/listresponses.pl?potpourri&4277107
Title: Re: jon and kate
Post by: willie83 on May 07, 2009, 03:13:09 PM
Kate treats Jon like sh#t, I'd go find a nice whore, too. He seems like a good guy.

willie83,

i'll go ahead and give you just a warning here. stating gossip as fact is a good way to get reported and/or get a point taken away. let's try and be a little more thoughful with our comments here.

thanks,
rick

Sorry bro, but she really chaps my hide. Blames the dude for EVERYTHING.  :curse:
Title: Re: jon and kate
Post by: Rick Daris on May 07, 2009, 03:18:13 PM
Kate treats Jon like sh#t, I'd go find a nice whore, too. He seems like a good guy.

willie83,

i'll go ahead and give you just a warning here. stating gossip as fact is a good way to get reported and/or get a point taken away. let's try and be a little more thoughful with our comments here.

thanks,
rick

Sorry bro, but she really chaps my hide. Blames the dude for EVERYTHING.  :curse:

well, maybe if john would just listen a little more...
Title: Re: jon and kate
Post by: willie83 on May 07, 2009, 03:37:55 PM
Kate treats Jon like sh#t, I'd go find a nice whore, too. He seems like a good guy.

willie83,

i'll go ahead and give you just a warning here. stating gossip as fact is a good way to get reported and/or get a point taken away. let's try and be a little more thoughful with our comments here.

thanks,
rick

Sorry bro, but she really chaps my hide. Blames the dude for EVERYTHING.  :curse:

well, maybe if john would just listen a little more...

Now you sound just like her, jeeze!
Title: Re: jon and kate
Post by: ew2x4 on May 07, 2009, 03:51:54 PM
I watched a repeat episode on TLC the other day. I was very surprised at how harsh Kate actually was on Jon. They were carving pumpkins for Halloween for the children. They were out in the garage, on a large table covered with butcher paper. It was no more a mess than the usual carving of the pumpkins...with "guts" and seeds from the pumpkins scooped out on the table. But, Kate was FREAKING OUT! She HAD to make Jon let her roll up the paper (he kept saying, 'Kate. just let me finish this one pumpkin and then you can clean up') she started saying she couldn't breathe until she "cleaned the mess up!" she was ridiculous. He SHOULD have told her to go inside, and he would call her when he was finished. It ruined the special, bonding moment for he and the children they were all enjoying! She had her way. Then later, when they were talking in the room she kept saying to him when he actually got a word in over her to talk about something..."Stop rambling Jon! You never SAY anything you just ramble on!" That had to embarrass him! He just stopped talking and sat there red faced and she started yammering. I hadn't actually noticed this before. She is emasculating him! She is always doing these little "calling downs" like he is one of her children, not her husband. There seems to be zero respect for him from her. This doesn't sit well with any man!

Yes, it's so sad. I do feel for the beautiful children. However, they really DO need serious counseling and intervention as a couple so that Kate sees what she does to push Jon away.

I'm not making excuses. If he has cheated. That's NEVER right and nothing can validate it. However,
you can see how Jon would fall out of love with someone who treated you this way all the time.

Hope they work it all out. Changes need to be made.
I remember Ash saying she watched her and wanted to start treating Danny better because of it. I feel the same way. I have learned from watching her about respect, and kindness and not being so anal about things like cleaning up messes children are bound to make right NOW! It's just disturbing.
Title: Re: jon and kate
Post by: LimestoneOutcropping on May 07, 2009, 03:59:00 PM
I called this since the re-exchange of vows in Hawaii.  Something in the body language told me he just wasn't in it.  Also, you can see him texting in the background....who do you supoose that is?  HMMM?  Not Kate.

I have also heard from a close friend of a friend that John may go both ways.  John & Nate plus 8(hamsters)?
Title: Re: jon and kate
Post by: Rick Daris on May 07, 2009, 04:01:09 PM
I called this since the re-exchange of vows in Hawaii.  Something in the body language told me he just wasn't in it.  Also, you can see him texting in the background....who do you supoose that is?  HMMM?  Not Kate.

I have also heard from a close friend of a friend that John may go both ways.  John & Nate plus 8(hamsters)?

link?  :hope: :fatty:
Title: Re: jon and kate
Post by: YouHaveHugeFitz22 on May 07, 2009, 05:48:57 PM
Kate treats Jon like sh#t, I'd go find a nice whore, too. He seems like a good guy.

willie83,

i'll go ahead and give you just a warning here. stating gossip as fact is a good way to get reported and/or get a point taken away. let's try and be a little more thoughful with our comments here.

thanks,
rick

Sorry bro, but she really chaps my hide. Blames the dude for EVERYTHING.  :curse:

You know how I know you guys are gay??
You argue over some show about a crazy chick and an asain computer programmer.
Title: Re: jon and kate
Post by: willie83 on May 07, 2009, 06:04:16 PM
Kate treats Jon like sh#t, I'd go find a nice whore, too. He seems like a good guy.

willie83,

i'll go ahead and give you just a warning here. stating gossip as fact is a good way to get reported and/or get a point taken away. let's try and be a little more thoughful with our comments here.

thanks,
rick

Sorry bro, but she really chaps my hide. Blames the dude for EVERYTHING.  :curse:

You know how I know you guys are gay??
You argue over some show about a crazy chick and an asain computer programmer.

 :lol:
Title: Re: jon and kate
Post by: PCR on May 07, 2009, 06:49:55 PM
And you homos made fun of me for watching the Bachelor.

 :royals:  Just had to use that in honor of me busting out the Royals shirt for the first time in 2 years. 
Title: Re: jon and kate
Post by: willie83 on May 07, 2009, 07:00:30 PM
Kate treats Jon like sh#t, I'd go find a nice whore, too. He seems like a good guy.

willie83,

i'll go ahead and give you just a warning here. stating gossip as fact is a good way to get reported and/or get a point taken away. let's try and be a little more thoughful with our comments here.

thanks,
rick

Sorry bro, but she really chaps my hide. Blames the dude for EVERYTHING.  :curse:

You know how I know you guys are gay??
You argue over some show about a crazy chick and an asain computer programmer.

I did not know he was a computer programmer, you have very high J&K+8IQ.
Title: Re: jon and kate
Post by: Rick Daris on May 07, 2009, 07:11:03 PM
alright guys, lets all post our favorite jk+8 pix. i'll go first. love this one below. really brings out each individuals personality imo. great family pic.


(http://image.examiner.com/images/blog/wysiwyg/image/u1_GosselinJonKate(1).gif)
Title: Re: jon and kate
Post by: Darth Kramer on May 07, 2009, 07:11:28 PM
she's gotten older/heavier/looks are gone...he's gotten richer..time to move on...
Title: Re: jon and kate
Post by: Rick Daris on May 07, 2009, 07:17:58 PM
And you homos made fun of me for watching the Bachelor.
 

 :lol:

 :ku: :ku: :ku:
Title: Re: jon and kate
Post by: yoga-lika_abana on May 07, 2009, 08:46:22 PM


 :royals:  Just had to use that in honor of me busting out the Royals shirt for the first time in 2 years. 
hate fairweather fans
Title: Re: jon and kate
Post by: yoga-lika_abana on May 07, 2009, 08:49:26 PM
alright guys, lets all post our favorite jk+8 pix. i'll go first. love this one below. really brings out each individuals personality imo. great family pic.


(http://i42.tinypic.com/2my6pkw.jpg)

(http://glosslip.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/jongosselinbar.jpg)

way to go jon. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: jon and kate
Post by: willie83 on May 07, 2009, 09:42:44 PM
I like this one, they still looked happy.
(http://www.urbanhonking.com/warmglow/images/jonkate.jpg)
Title: Re: jon and kate
Post by: steve dave on May 07, 2009, 09:46:02 PM
You know how I know you guys are gay??
You argue over some show about a crazy chick and an asain computer programmer.

Wait, Jon is a computer programmer? 
Title: Re: jon and kate
Post by: Hercules Antigua on May 07, 2009, 10:27:57 PM
I like this one, they still looked happy.
(http://www.urbanhonking.com/warmglow/images/jonkate.jpg)
Except for Mady, but when is she ever happy AMIRITE?!

Title: Re: jon and kate
Post by: Thin Blue Line on May 07, 2009, 10:49:19 PM
alright guys, lets all post our favorite jk+8 pix. i'll go first. love this one below. really brings out each individuals personality imo. great family pic.


(http://image.examiner.com/images/blog/wysiwyg/image/u1_GosselinJonKate(1).gif)

Hmm. Haven't seen the show, so I'll have to just make my assumptions from the family photo.
1) The Mrs. seems to be a nice person, who's feeling as if her life is slipping away and will not let her husband forget it. She has a nice little black box that she keeps in the bedside table.

2) The Mr. looks like his mind is elsewhere. He doesn't look like he's had sex since far before the children were born. His testicles are in the nice little black box. I fear for his psycho-sexual sanity.

3) The pack-o-kids look like they were stolen from a Tibetan orphanage. I feel they should die their hair blonde to go with their glowing eyes.

JMO
Title: Re: jon and kate
Post by: Rick Daris on May 12, 2009, 05:39:39 PM
guys,

oh no, it just keeps getting worse.  :frown:

http://omg.yahoo.com/news/kate-gosselin-horrified-by-claims-she-cheated-with-bodyguard/22420?nc
Title: Re: jon and kate
Post by: ChokeSlam on May 12, 2009, 10:57:41 PM
I watched a repeat episode on TLC the other day. I was very surprised at how harsh Kate actually was on Jon. They were carving pumpkins for Halloween for the children. They were out in the garage, on a large table covered with butcher paper. It was no more a mess than the usual carving of the pumpkins...with "guts" and seeds from the pumpkins scooped out on the table. But, Kate was FREAKING OUT! She HAD to make Jon let her roll up the paper (he kept saying, 'Kate. just let me finish this one pumpkin and then you can clean up') she started saying she couldn't breathe until she "cleaned the mess up!" she was ridiculous. He SHOULD have told her to go inside, and he would call her when he was finished. It ruined the special, bonding moment for he and the children they were all enjoying! She had her way. Then later, when they were talking in the room she kept saying to him when he actually got a word in over her to talk about something..."Stop rambling Jon! You never SAY anything you just ramble on!" That had to embarrass him! He just stopped talking and sat there red faced and she started yammering. I hadn't actually noticed this before. She is emasculating him! She is always doing these little "calling downs" like he is one of her children, not her husband. There seems to be zero respect for him from her. This doesn't sit well with any man!

This and obesity make me realize how lazy Americans are.  Beating up women is not that hard.  Most times it only takes one punch.
Title: Re: jon and kate
Post by: Thin Blue Line on May 12, 2009, 10:58:53 PM
I watched a repeat episode on TLC the other day. I was very surprised at how harsh Kate actually was on Jon. They were carving pumpkins for Halloween for the children. They were out in the garage, on a large table covered with butcher paper. It was no more a mess than the usual carving of the pumpkins...with "guts" and seeds from the pumpkins scooped out on the table. But, Kate was FREAKING OUT! She HAD to make Jon let her roll up the paper (he kept saying, 'Kate. just let me finish this one pumpkin and then you can clean up') she started saying she couldn't breathe until she "cleaned the mess up!" she was ridiculous. He SHOULD have told her to go inside, and he would call her when he was finished. It ruined the special, bonding moment for he and the children they were all enjoying! She had her way. Then later, when they were talking in the room she kept saying to him when he actually got a word in over her to talk about something..."Stop rambling Jon! You never SAY anything you just ramble on!" That had to embarrass him! He just stopped talking and sat there red faced and she started yammering. I hadn't actually noticed this before. She is emasculating him! She is always doing these little "calling downs" like he is one of her children, not her husband. There seems to be zero respect for him from her. This doesn't sit well with any man!

This and obesity make me realize how lazy Americans are.  Beating up women is not that hard.  Most times it only takes one punch.

This
Title: Re: jon and kate
Post by: ArchE_Cat on May 13, 2009, 09:53:49 PM
It's over  :crybaby:

http://omg.yahoo.com/news/brother-confirms-jon-feared-kate-was-having-affair-with-bodyguard/22492?nc (http://omg.yahoo.com/news/brother-confirms-jon-feared-kate-was-having-affair-with-bodyguard/22492?nc)  :runaway:

(http://cdn.buzznet.com/media-cdn/jj1/headlines/2009/05/kate-gosselin-bodyguard-steve-neild.jpg)
Title: Re: jon and kate
Post by: Bookcat on May 13, 2009, 11:44:16 PM
Kate is mean

qft.

she rides him like a champion racehorse.
Title: Re: jon and kate
Post by: Bookcat on May 13, 2009, 11:49:16 PM
My gal watches this constantly and even she thinks the biyyatch rides Jon like mad.

One time the kids were all eating ice cream cones and of course they were getting a little on their shirts and Jon was having fun with his kids...

and hell bit ch freaked out because their shirts were getting ice cream on them.

SO FRANKING WHAT!!@ Get messy. It's ICE CREAM. Live a little will ya? The ice cream will wash off or get new shirts.

To quote American Beauty:

"ITS JUST A COUCH!!! THIS ISN"T LIFE!!!!"
Title: Re: jon and kate
Post by: YouHaveHugeFitz22 on May 13, 2009, 11:56:18 PM
You know how I know you guys are gay??
You argue over some show about a crazy chick and an asain computer programmer.

Wait, Jon is a computer programmer? 

I have no god damn clue, but you know he is asian and stuff so he is either some sort of dry-cleaner or a computer programmer of some type, its just logic really.

(http://www.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/246468/2/istockphoto_246468-asian-student-on-the-computer.jpg)
(http://wwwdelivery.superstock.com/WI/223/1433/PreviewComp/SuperStock_1433R-949208.jpg)
Title: Re: jon and kate
Post by: willie83 on May 14, 2009, 11:18:39 AM
You know how I know you guys are gay??
You argue over some show about a crazy chick and an asain computer programmer.

Wait, Jon is a computer programmer? 

I have no god damn clue, but you know he is asian and stuff so he is either some sort of dry-cleaner or a computer programmer of some type, its just logic really.

(http://www.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/246468/2/istockphoto_246468-asian-student-on-the-computer.jpg)
(http://wwwdelivery.superstock.com/WI/223/1433/PreviewComp/SuperStock_1433R-949208.jpg)


It took you a week to come up with that? Just admit you can't live without watching J&K+8.  :scarymovie:
Title: Re: jon and kate
Post by: fatty fat fat on May 14, 2009, 11:20:16 AM
what the hell is this
Title: Re: jon and kate
Post by: Winters on May 14, 2009, 11:22:05 AM
what the hell is this
Some show on TLC? they have like 8 kids and the wife is cheating :dunno:
Title: Re: jon and kate
Post by: willie83 on May 14, 2009, 11:58:21 AM
LOL at people trying to pretend they don't watch!  :lol:
Title: Re: jon and kate
Post by: pwrcat1 on May 14, 2009, 03:32:28 PM
Kate's really hot.
Title: Re: jon and kate
Post by: I_have_purplewood on May 14, 2009, 04:31:22 PM
Am I the only one who has been wondering how large her vagina is?  Eight kids got shucked out of that thing.  Would it ever snap back?  Ever? :confused: (ftp://:confused:)
Title: Re: jon and kate
Post by: ArchE_Cat on May 14, 2009, 04:58:50 PM
Am I the only one who has been wondering how large her vagina is?  Eight kids got shucked out of that thing.  Would it ever snap back?  Ever? :confused: (ftp://:confused:)

For the sake of that is good and holy I hope she had c-sections. If not it must be like throwing a hot dog down a hallway.
Title: Re: jon and kate
Post by: YouHaveHugeFitz22 on May 14, 2009, 05:11:00 PM
Am I the only one who has been wondering how large her vagina is?  Eight kids got shucked out of that thing.  Would it ever snap back?  Ever? :confused: (ftp://:confused:)

For the sake of that is good and holy I hope she had c-sections. If not it must be like throwing a hot dog down a hallway.

^^^THAT^^^^^ :lol:
Title: Re: jon and kate
Post by: pwrcat1 on May 14, 2009, 05:28:56 PM
Am I the only one who has been wondering how large her vagina is?  Eight kids got shucked out of that thing.  Would it ever snap back?  Ever? :confused: (ftp://:confused:)

Apparently you could just ask her bodyguard...


Title: Re: jon and kate
Post by: Winters on May 15, 2009, 10:45:23 AM
LOL at people trying to pretend they don't watch!  :lol:
I watched it like twice  :ugh:
Title: Re: jon and kate
Post by: Rick Daris on May 15, 2009, 11:03:41 AM
what stage is everybody at in the whole kubler ross stages of grief thing. i think i had moved into depression for a few days (was really bummed out) but now feel like maybe with the recent kate news i'm back into anger. why did this have to happen? why can't they just make it work? they've got the kids to think about.  :curse:
Title: Re: jon and kate
Post by: steve dave on May 15, 2009, 11:07:06 AM
Kate's really hot.

On "So Opposite You Have To Say Something That Makes You Puke Day"  :yuck:
Title: Re: jon and kate
Post by: pwrcat1 on May 15, 2009, 01:08:10 PM
Kate's really hot.

On "So Opposite You Have To Say Something That Makes You Puke Day"  :yuck:

No. Normal days, too.
Title: Re: jon and kate
Post by: PCR on May 15, 2009, 04:32:55 PM
I'm watching this show right now, and I have to say that having a wife like that is the kind of nightmare I'm hoping to avoid should I decide to get married.  He obviously hates his life.  He probably just married her cuz she used to be hot, and now he's got fame he can move on to better things. 

Also the same phenomenon of having seen a show like 3 times and seeing the same episode over and over.  They're &@#%ing making shelves for the garage.  Why is this interesting? 
Title: Re: jon and kate
Post by: LimestoneOutcropping on May 15, 2009, 04:37:32 PM
If they get divorced and I have to choose sides I am going to be in Kate's camp.  There, I said it.  I know she isn't the popular one around here but this isn't a popularity contest, its a 8 kid raising contest.
Title: Re: jon and kate
Post by: PCR on May 15, 2009, 05:45:51 PM
Dr. Drew tweeted:

Tonight, may appear on "Larry King Live". Topic undecided. Marijuana, or Multiple Madness? Pray for Jon & Kate's 8.
Title: Re: jon and kate
Post by: TAFNA Dude on May 16, 2009, 03:59:12 AM
http://www.calgaryherald.com/entertainment/Kate+Plus+scandal+primer+truth+will+free/1596799/story.html
Title: Re: jon and kate
Post by: hemmy on May 16, 2009, 10:30:32 AM
http://www.calgaryherald.com/entertainment/Kate+Plus+scandal+primer+truth+will+free/1596799/story.html


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