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Title: Windows XP mode in Windows 7
Post by: ew2x4 on April 24, 2009, 05:37:44 PM
http://community.winsupersite.com/blogs/paul/archive/2009/04/24/secret-no-more-revealing-virtual-windows-xp-for-windows-7.aspx

How pimp is that.
Title: Re: Windows XP mode in Windows 7
Post by: Perry on April 24, 2009, 07:52:29 PM
Very, very []D [] []\/[] []D
Title: Re: Windows XP mode in Windows 7
Post by: hemmy on April 24, 2009, 08:59:32 PM
Windows 7 is going to be HUGE, IMO.

Been using it since pre-beta and plan on grabbing the RC.
Title: Re: Windows XP mode in Windows 7
Post by: ew2x4 on April 24, 2009, 09:30:25 PM
Windows 7 is going to be HUGE, IMO.

Been using it since pre-beta and plan on grabbing the RC.

Put 7077 on a spare box. Very impressed. Half way done downloading 7100 now. I'll put it on my main machine tomorrow probably.
Title: Re: Windows XP mode in Windows 7
Post by: hemmy on April 24, 2009, 09:37:27 PM
yes currently waiting for ubuntu to update to 9.04 but its slow as hell.

Currently 5 os's installed on my desktop, no idea why though
Title: Re: Windows XP mode in Windows 7
Post by: Perry on April 25, 2009, 12:35:32 AM
How user-friendly is Ubuntu? I've seen what you can do with it and it's really neat, but I've heard it takes a lot of configuration for things.
Title: Re: Windows XP mode in Windows 7
Post by: ew2x4 on April 25, 2009, 01:46:04 AM
How user-friendly is Ubuntu? I've seen what you can do with it and it's really neat, but I've heard it takes a lot of configuration for things.

I haven't used it since version 7 or so. It's by far the friendliest linux distro I've seen. That's not to say it's a cake walk. It's still linux.
Title: Re: Windows XP mode in Windows 7
Post by: Perry on April 25, 2009, 03:47:09 AM
I think I might want to get it later and put it on my pc which currently just has Vista on it (along with Windows 7 eventually). I like options   :D
Title: Re: Windows XP mode in Windows 7
Post by: hemmy on April 25, 2009, 11:32:08 AM
If you don't have wireless pretty much everything in Ubuntu is plug and play

Wireless is definitely a different story, depending on what model wireless card your laptop/desktop has

You can install Ubuntu inside of windows just like any other application if you want to try it

Then when you boot it will be added to the Windows boot manager

Also, FYI to anyone grabbing W7 betas, not all builds are legit, some have been modified by a 3rd party
Title: Re: Windows XP mode in Windows 7
Post by: ew2x4 on April 25, 2009, 10:31:50 PM
If you don't have wireless pretty much everything in Ubuntu is plug and play

Wireless is definitely a different story, depending on what model wireless card your laptop/desktop has

You can install Ubuntu inside of windows just like any other application if you want to try it

Then when you boot it will be added to the Windows boot manager

Also, FYI to anyone grabbing W7 betas, not all builds are legit, some have been modified by a 3rd party

I just ordered a new hard drive for my laptop, so I'll probably just wait for the legit one from MS.
Title: Re: Windows XP mode in Windows 7
Post by: hemmy on April 25, 2009, 11:39:46 PM
Will be on MS's site May 5th I think
Title: Re: Windows XP mode in Windows 7
Post by: ew2x4 on April 26, 2009, 12:12:21 AM
Will be on MS's site May 5th I think

Technet the 30th  :peek:
Title: Re: Windows XP mode in Windows 7
Post by: hemmy on April 26, 2009, 10:02:21 AM
Paid subscription :dunno:
Title: Re: Windows XP mode in Windows 7
Post by: ew2x4 on April 26, 2009, 12:52:19 PM
Paid subscription :dunno:

I know peeps who know peeps. Way too cheap to get it myself.
Title: Re: Windows XP mode in Windows 7
Post by: ew2x4 on May 01, 2009, 07:25:54 PM
Just got it installed on my new hard drive.

This thing fracking flies.
Title: Re: Windows XP mode in Windows 7
Post by: hemmy on May 01, 2009, 09:00:55 PM
Am currently backing up my stuff gonna setup raid 0 + w7  :love:
Title: Re: Windows XP mode in Windows 7
Post by: ew2x4 on May 02, 2009, 01:13:41 AM
Am currently backing up my stuff gonna setup raid 0 + w7  :love:
:love: indeed

Installed in 16 minutes from DVD. Restarts in less than a minute. I love it.

Title: Re: Windows XP mode in Windows 7
Post by: hemmy on May 02, 2009, 04:35:15 PM
Am currently backing up my stuff gonna setup raid 0 + w7  :love:
:love: indeed

Installed in 16 minutes from DVD. Restarts in less than a minute. I love it.



Well my raid setup uses a jmicron chip that I can't get working  :'byecruelworld:

I just cleaned my OS HDDs (Had XP, Vista, Ubuntu, W7 build 7068 installed) and now only have W7 RC

Very fast still, try to go raid when I jump to Core i7
Title: Re: Windows XP mode in Windows 7
Post by: ew2x4 on May 04, 2009, 11:07:45 PM
Just got a new CPU for my laptop. Will install it tomorrow and get the "official" x64 RC.
Title: Re: Windows XP mode in Windows 7
Post by: Saulbadguy on May 04, 2009, 11:30:53 PM
Paid subscription :dunno:
Our work has a technet and msdn sub.  It still took like a day to download, the site was hammered.  Got it installed today.  Haven't really messed w/ it too much.  Ultimate edition 64 bit. 
Title: Re: Windows XP mode in Windows 7
Post by: hemmy on May 04, 2009, 11:48:05 PM
Ya, I grabbed off torrent @ 1.5 MB/s  :love: (64 bit)

New Windows Sounds added since previous beta releases  :drool:

Paid subscription :dunno:
Our work has a technet and msdn sub.  It still took like a day to download, the site was hammered.  Got it installed today.  Haven't really messed w/ it too much.  Ultimate edition 64 bit. 

http://www.dailytech.com/Windows+7+RC+Demand+Briefly+Crashes+Microsoft+Servers/article15020.htm
Title: Re: Windows XP mode in Windows 7
Post by: pissclams on May 05, 2009, 09:13:43 AM
why is Microsoft pushing a new OS already?  Vista?   :confused:

why run XP mode (VERY OLD!) in a new and exciting and better OS?     :confused:

 :lol:

Title: Re: Windows XP mode in Windows 7
Post by: Saulbadguy on May 05, 2009, 11:07:33 AM
why is Microsoft pushing a new OS already?  Vista?   :confused:

why run XP mode (VERY OLD!) in a new and exciting and better OS?     :confused:

 :lol:


Cause Vista wasn't well received. Rebranding and adding some neat new features, and "streamlining" will make it better received - whether or not the product is any better, or worst.
Title: Re: Windows XP mode in Windows 7
Post by: Skycat on May 05, 2009, 11:15:06 AM
By the time Windows 7 comes out for retail next year some time, it will have been about 3 years since Vista came out.  That's a pretty typical delay between OS releases for Microsoft. 

And like Kat Hoopz recruiting classes, they alternate between being pretty good and sucking.
Title: Re: Windows XP mode in Windows 7
Post by: pissclams on May 05, 2009, 11:18:25 AM
so the lesson from this thread is that the great part about MS's new OS is that it can act like the one that came out 8 yrs ago, got it.
Title: Re: Windows XP mode in Windows 7
Post by: Saulbadguy on May 05, 2009, 12:31:56 PM
By the time Windows 7 comes out for retail next year some time, it will have been about 3 years since Vista came out.  That's a pretty typical delay between OS releases for Microsoft. 

And like Kat Hoopz recruiting classes, they alternate between being pretty good and sucking.
Yeah - they aren't like MAC's that do a new OS "release" every years and just add a couple of stupid apps to = new version.
Title: Re: Windows XP mode in Windows 7
Post by: hemmy on May 05, 2009, 12:37:54 PM
They are including XP because many business use very old legacy productivity applications that have not seen updates in years, and are incompatible with anything newer than XP
Title: Re: Windows XP mode in Windows 7
Post by: Saulbadguy on May 05, 2009, 12:50:22 PM
They are including XP because many business use very old legacy productivity applications that have not seen updates in years, and are incompatible with anything newer than XP
I hate that. Really do.  We tend to try to stick w/ Microsoft products for anything like that but unfortunately Microsoft doesn't do everything.  :cheers:
Title: Re: Windows XP mode in Windows 7
Post by: ew2x4 on May 05, 2009, 12:54:14 PM
Newer versions of Windows not focusing on legacy support will be  :love:
Title: Re: Windows XP mode in Windows 7
Post by: pissclams on May 05, 2009, 01:33:28 PM
They are including XP because many business use very old legacy productivity applications that have not seen updates in years, and are incompatible with anything newer than XP

they're including XP because many enterprise users realized that Vista was junk and refused to "upgrade" to microsoft's new OS.  microsoft is hoping to trick the enterprise user into believing that 7 is not Vista related, even though it's exactly what Saul said it was a few posts back- a rebranded Vista that now has the ability to appear like the OS they're used to using.

if i'm an enterprise user why do i need my productivity applications to be compatible with anything newer than XP?  you do realize who's fault it is, if my productivity aps are not compatible with anything newer than XP, right?  microsofts.  MS chose to invent the need for a new OS.

they should have just continued NT's development through XP with their service pack crap & figure out a way to charge people for its development and continued support.  instead, they're now launching Vista Part 2.   i'm sure the new OS will launch will a lot fewer problems but the whole mess could have been avoided.
Title: Re: Windows XP mode in Windows 7
Post by: ew2x4 on May 05, 2009, 02:48:06 PM
They are including XP because many business use very old legacy productivity applications that have not seen updates in years, and are incompatible with anything newer than XP

they're including XP because many enterprise users realized that Vista was junk and refused to "upgrade" to microsoft's new OS.  microsoft is hoping to trick the enterprise user into believing that 7 is not Vista related, even though it's exactly what Saul said it was a few posts back- a rebranded Vista that now has the ability to appear like the OS they're used to using.

if i'm an enterprise user why do i need my productivity applications to be compatible with anything newer than XP?  you do realize who's fault it is, if my productivity aps are not compatible with anything newer than XP, right?  microsofts.  MS chose to invent the need for a new OS.

they should have just continued NT's development through XP with their service pack crap & figure out a way to charge people for its development and continued support.  instead, they're now launching Vista Part 2.   i'm sure the new OS will launch will a lot fewer problems but the whole mess could have been avoided.

You're more boring than bentard.
Title: Re: Windows XP mode in Windows 7
Post by: pissclams on May 05, 2009, 03:20:02 PM
They are including XP because many business use very old legacy productivity applications that have not seen updates in years, and are incompatible with anything newer than XP

they're including XP because many enterprise users realized that Vista was junk and refused to "upgrade" to microsoft's new OS.  microsoft is hoping to trick the enterprise user into believing that 7 is not Vista related, even though it's exactly what Saul said it was a few posts back- a rebranded Vista that now has the ability to appear like the OS they're used to using.

if i'm an enterprise user why do i need my productivity applications to be compatible with anything newer than XP?  you do realize who's fault it is, if my productivity aps are not compatible with anything newer than XP, right?  microsofts.  MS chose to invent the need for a new OS.

they should have just continued NT's development through XP with their service pack crap & figure out a way to charge people for its development and continued support.  instead, they're now launching Vista Part 2.   i'm sure the new OS will launch will a lot fewer problems but the whole mess could have been avoided.

You're more boring than bentard.

talk about boring... :blank:

Title: Re: Windows XP mode in Windows 7
Post by: ew2x4 on May 05, 2009, 03:54:16 PM
They are including XP because many business use very old legacy productivity applications that have not seen updates in years, and are incompatible with anything newer than XP

they're including XP because many enterprise users realized that Vista was junk and refused to "upgrade" to microsoft's new OS.  microsoft is hoping to trick the enterprise user into believing that 7 is not Vista related, even though it's exactly what Saul said it was a few posts back- a rebranded Vista that now has the ability to appear like the OS they're used to using.

if i'm an enterprise user why do i need my productivity applications to be compatible with anything newer than XP?  you do realize who's fault it is, if my productivity aps are not compatible with anything newer than XP, right?  microsofts.  MS chose to invent the need for a new OS.

they should have just continued NT's development through XP with their service pack crap & figure out a way to charge people for its development and continued support.  instead, they're now launching Vista Part 2.   i'm sure the new OS will launch will a lot fewer problems but the whole mess could have been avoided.

You're more boring than bentard.

talk about boring... :blank:



I was...  8-)
Title: Re: Windows XP mode in Windows 7
Post by: Saulbadguy on May 05, 2009, 05:28:20 PM
They are including XP because many business use very old legacy productivity applications that have not seen updates in years, and are incompatible with anything newer than XP

they're including XP because many enterprise users realized that Vista was junk and refused to "upgrade" to microsoft's new OS.  microsoft is hoping to trick the enterprise user into believing that 7 is not Vista related, even though it's exactly what Saul said it was a few posts back- a rebranded Vista that now has the ability to appear like the OS they're used to using.

if i'm an enterprise user why do i need my productivity applications to be compatible with anything newer than XP?  you do realize who's fault it is, if my productivity aps are not compatible with anything newer than XP, right?  microsofts.  MS chose to invent the need for a new OS.

they should have just continued NT's development through XP with their service pack crap & figure out a way to charge people for its development and continued support.  instead, they're now launching Vista Part 2.   i'm sure the new OS will launch will a lot fewer problems but the whole mess could have been avoided.
Vista, and now Windows 7 really make an admins life easier, in a perfect world.  Most developers are making their apps Vista/W7 compatible now a days, but it is still tough for businesses to adopt the new standard.  I think Vista/W7 offer features for admins and users that are valuable over what XP offers. XP is a solid OS but it's getting long in the tooth and relies on old technology, especially the x86 versions.

I don't think it's Microsofts fault for not provide support for legacy applications.  Hell, we still run apps that are designed for 95 just because the new app would cost more to buy than supporting the old app does.  I do like that we are getting thrown a bone here with the Windows XP mode, it will make migration alot easier.
Title: Re: Windows XP mode in Windows 7
Post by: hemmy on May 05, 2009, 10:35:52 PM
XP 64bit is really Windows Server ne way :dunno:

'clams is just a tard who loves to set bait
Title: Re: Windows XP mode in Windows 7
Post by: pissclams on May 06, 2009, 08:49:52 AM
XP 64bit is really Windows Server ne way :dunno:

'clams is just a tard who loves to set bait
what part of my post was inaccurate  :confused: :dunno:

Title: Re: Windows XP mode in Windows 7
Post by: ew2x4 on May 06, 2009, 09:35:54 AM
XP 64bit is really Windows Server ne way :dunno:

'clams is just a tard who loves to set bait
what part of my post was inaccurate  :confused: :dunno:



Quote
you do realize who's fault it is, if my productivity aps are not compatible with anything newer than XP, right?  microsofts.

That would be a good start.
Title: Re: Windows XP mode in Windows 7
Post by: pissclams on May 06, 2009, 09:48:37 AM
XP 64bit is really Windows Server ne way :dunno:

'clams is just a tard who loves to set bait
what part of my post was inaccurate  :confused: :dunno:



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you do realize who's fault it is, if my productivity aps are not compatible with anything newer than XP, right?  microsofts.

That would be a good start.
so you agree that there was a definite need for microsoft to create Vista and in doing so, rebuild the kernel.   :lol: 
i like you ew2x4, you're crazy, but i like you.   :lol:
Title: Re: Windows XP mode in Windows 7
Post by: ew2x4 on May 06, 2009, 12:38:12 PM
XP 64bit is really Windows Server ne way :dunno:

'clams is just a tard who loves to set bait
what part of my post was inaccurate  :confused: :dunno:



Quote
you do realize who's fault it is, if my productivity aps are not compatible with anything newer than XP, right?  microsofts.

That would be a good start.
so you agree that there was a definite need for microsoft to create Vista and in doing so, rebuild the kernel.   :lol: 
i like you ew2x4, you're crazy, but i like you.   :lol:

Why do you think we should have stuck with XP? It's not perfect by any means. Networking is poorly done. You have to use a FLOPPY DISC to install to a SATA drive. Very poor multi-core support. Poor home theater/entertainment options. Can't uninstall windows programs (IE, WMP, etc). It sucks at ending crashing programs. It has awful registry bloat. etc. etc. Would you prefer to get ripped off like MAC OWNERS and pay $150 for "updates" every year or so?

And now I feel bad for  :baityes:
Title: Re: Windows XP mode in Windows 7
Post by: steve dave on May 06, 2009, 12:39:17 PM
I like vista pretty good I guess :dunno: