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Title: Sounds like BS and Crew are already coach'n 'em up
Post by: cireksu on April 15, 2009, 06:34:58 AM
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Coffman, a sophomore, said he is adjusting to the quarterback run game, primarily the option, which is part of Snyder’s “broad-based” offense. Coffman said he has been getting instruction in the art of the pitch from passing-game coordinator Del Miller and running-game coordinator Dana Dimel.

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Title: Re: Sounds like BS and Crew are already coach'n 'em up
Post by: steve dave on April 15, 2009, 07:51:25 AM
Sounds good to me :dunno:  (other than the Miller/Dimel part)
Title: Re: Sounds like BS and Crew are already coach'n 'em up
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 15, 2009, 07:55:47 AM
I kind of like Dana Dimel  . . . don't mind that he's on our staff at all.   

Del Miller . . . he should just stick to breaking down film.

Title: Re: Sounds like BS and Crew are already coach'n 'em up
Post by: catzacker on April 15, 2009, 07:58:39 AM
they have to teach pitching the ball?
Title: Re: Sounds like BS and Crew are already coach'n 'em up
Post by: RonLongshaft on April 15, 2009, 08:09:26 AM
they have to teach pitching the ball?

apparently its an art
Title: Re: Sounds like BS and Crew are already coach'n 'em up
Post by: Purple_PhotoShopper on April 15, 2009, 08:17:56 AM
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Coffman, a sophomore, said he is adjusting to the quarterback run game, primarily the option, which is part of Snyder’s “broad-based” offense. Coffman said he has been getting instruction in the art of the pitch from passing-game coordinator Del Miller and running-game coordinator Dana Dimel.

 :angry:
I picture Marc Dunn running the option. Now THAT was a work of art.
Title: Re: Sounds like BS and Crew are already coach'n 'em up
Post by: TheCatsMeow on April 15, 2009, 08:33:05 AM
Of cours they have to coach pitching.  More so if the kid didn't run it in high school.  Let's pretend that you guys actually played football.
Title: Re: Sounds like BS and Crew are already coach'n 'em up
Post by: yoga-lika_abana on April 15, 2009, 08:39:59 AM
they have to teach pitching the ball?

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Title: Re: Sounds like BS and Crew are already coach'n 'em up
Post by: ksu_FAN on April 15, 2009, 08:42:00 AM
Of cours they have to coach pitching.  More so if the kid didn't run it in high school.  Let's pretend that you guys actually played football.

Yeah, the bagging on our staff is cute and all (and sometimes justified), but some of the criticism is just piling on.  Of course, I don't know how much is legit and how much is just ksufans being ksufans.
Title: Re: Sounds like BS and Crew are already coach'n 'em up
Post by: mcmwcat on April 15, 2009, 08:59:43 AM
they have to teach pitching the ball?

wtf.  don't you learn this in like 2nd grade?
Title: Re: Sounds like BS and Crew are already coach'n 'em up
Post by: Bhyaaaaa! on April 15, 2009, 09:07:20 AM
they have to teach pitching the ball?

wtf.  don't you learn this in like 2nd grade?

Why don't you go ahead and tell us what your second grade teacher taught you about the proper pitch...
Title: Re: Sounds like BS and Crew are already coach'n 'em up
Post by: Chad May Lover on April 15, 2009, 09:18:01 AM
Easier said than done.
Title: Re: Sounds like BS and Crew are already coach'n 'em up
Post by: TheCatsMeow on April 15, 2009, 09:24:57 AM
You don't just pick up a fb and realize that spinning end over end is the best.  There is timing involved that is very important.  Plus the speed of the pitch is also a biggie.
Title: Re: Sounds like BS and Crew are already coach'n 'em up
Post by: catdude33 on April 15, 2009, 09:26:33 AM
The pitch is hard.  I remember on "Remember the Titans"  Sunshine really struggled making that pitch at first.
Title: Re: Sounds like BS and Crew are already coach'n 'em up
Post by: Poonhound69 on April 15, 2009, 09:47:47 AM
they have to teach pitching the ball?

wish jeff schwinn wouldn't have missed that practice.
Title: Re: Sounds like BS and Crew are already coach'n 'em up
Post by: mcmwcat on April 15, 2009, 09:57:55 AM
You don't just pick up a fb and realize that spinning end over end is the best.  There is timing involved that is very important.  Plus the speed of the pitch is also a biggie.

do they think they should be passing it like rugby players w/ the 2 handed scoop pass  :confused:
Title: Re: Sounds like BS and Crew are already coach'n 'em up
Post by: cireksu on April 15, 2009, 10:01:02 AM
You don't just pick up a fb and realize that spinning end over end is the best.  There is timing involved that is very important.  Plus the speed of the pitch is also a biggie.

do they think they should be passing it like rugby players w/ the 2 handed scoop pass  :confused:

Man I can't wait to see Coffman making plays with his feet.
Title: Re: Sounds like BS and Crew are already coach'n 'em up
Post by: Tulsa Cat on April 15, 2009, 10:16:15 AM
You don't just pick up a fb and realize that spinning end over end is the best.  There is timing involved that is very important.  Plus the speed of the pitch is also a biggie.

do they think they should be passing it like rugby players w/ the 2 handed scoop pass  :confused:

Man I can't wait to see Coffman making plays with his feet.

I really hope this is sarcasm. 

I really want to see Coffman hit a wide open Lamark across the middle for a long TD.  :ksu:

 :dive:
Title: Re: Sounds like BS and Crew are already coach'n 'em up
Post by: pissclams on April 15, 2009, 10:18:33 AM
 :flush:   <---this thread.  attempting to bitch about every bit of news that comes out of our football program is the lame.
Title: Re: Sounds like BS and Crew are already coach'n 'em up
Post by: Bookcat on April 15, 2009, 10:39:20 AM
:flush:   <---this thread.  attempting to bitch about every bit of news that comes out of our football program is the lame.
QFT QFT QFT

even if this site is supposed to be different and hip lets give our staff and team a chance and save the trash talk for our rival Texas.

I'm not asking everyone to turn into powertards, i'd just like to see some positive energy every now and then.
Title: Re: Sounds like BS and Crew are already coach'n 'em up
Post by: RonLongshaft on April 15, 2009, 11:04:12 AM
i suppose these coaches think its necessary to teach someone how to hold the ball on PAT and FGs... fracking amateurs, like we will ever need one of those
Title: Re: Sounds like BS and Crew are already coach'n 'em up
Post by: Joker on April 15, 2009, 11:14:02 AM
Aren't lack of fundamentals (ie tackling) what plagued Ronald's teams?
Title: Re: Sounds like BS and Crew are already coach'n 'em up
Post by: TheCatsMeow on April 15, 2009, 11:18:56 AM
Aren't lack of fundamentals (ie tackling) what plagued Ronald's teams?

Thank you, there are smart KSU fans!   :ksu:
Title: Re: Sounds like BS and Crew are already coach'n 'em up
Post by: KSUTOMMY on April 15, 2009, 11:25:15 AM
:flush:   <---this thread.  attempting to bitch about every bit of news that comes out of our football program is the lame.

Welcome to ksufans where we have made bitching an artform.
Title: Re: Sounds like BS and Crew are already coach'n 'em up
Post by: Duncan on April 15, 2009, 11:48:06 AM
they have to teach pitching the ball?

wish jeff schwinn wouldn't have missed that practice.

What are you talking about, that was a perfectly executed pitch to the Marshall DE. . .
Title: Re: Sounds like BS and Crew are already coach'n 'em up
Post by: Winters on April 15, 2009, 11:48:16 AM
they have to teach pitching the ball?

(http://content7.flixster.com/poll/91/78/91789_std.jpg)
Sunshine kinda looks like Sparkles.
Title: Re: Sounds like BS and Crew are already coach'n 'em up
Post by: kougar24 on April 15, 2009, 11:59:58 AM
:flush:   <---this thread.  attempting to bitch about every bit of news that comes out of our football program is the lame.

On the flip side, what else is there to talk about on this board at the moment?
Title: Re: Sounds like BS and Crew are already coach'n 'em up
Post by: pissclams on April 15, 2009, 12:34:21 PM
:flush:   <---this thread.  attempting to bitch about every bit of news that comes out of our football program is the lame.

On the flip side, what else is there to talk about on this board at the moment?

kougs your new posting style sucks, take it from someone who knows suckage.
Title: Re: Sounds like BS and Crew are already coach'n 'em up
Post by: kougar24 on April 15, 2009, 12:35:05 PM
:flush:   <---this thread.  attempting to bitch about every bit of news that comes out of our football program is the lame.

On the flip side, what else is there to talk about on this board at the moment?

kougs your new posting style sucks, take it from someone who knows suckage.

Same as it's always been.


.....Hey, wait a second...
Title: Re: Sounds like BS and Crew are already coach'n 'em up
Post by: catzacker on April 15, 2009, 12:35:19 PM
Of cours they have to coach pitching.  More so if the kid didn't run it in high school.  Let's pretend that you guys actually played football.

Yeah, the bagging on our staff is cute and all (and sometimes justified), but some of the criticism is just piling on.  Of course, I don't know how much is legit and how much is just ksufans being ksufans.

it was just the way it was worded. of course if a drop back-ish QB has to all of a sudden start running the option, the nuances of reading the force, pitch relationship, timiing, etc have to be ironed out.  it's just funny.  maybe Snyds shouldn't be forcing the option on a guy like Schwinn Coffman when he isn't suited for it....if it's such an expansive, all encompassing playbook then flip to the part where the slow white guy doesn't have to get to the edge.  
Title: Re: Sounds like BS and Crew are already coach'n 'em up
Post by: kougar24 on April 15, 2009, 12:45:58 PM
Of cours they have to coach pitching.  More so if the kid didn't run it in high school.  Let's pretend that you guys actually played football.

Yeah, the bagging on our staff is cute and all (and sometimes justified), but some of the criticism is just piling on.  Of course, I don't know how much is legit and how much is just ksufans being ksufans.

it was just the way it was worded. of course if a drop back-ish QB has to all of a sudden start running the option, the nuances of reading the force, pitch relationship, timiing, etc have to be ironed out.  it's just funny.  maybe Snyds shouldn't be forcing the option on a guy like Schwinn Coffman when he isn't suited for it....if it's such an expansive, all encompassing playbook then flip to the part where the slow white guy doesn't have to get to the edge.  

That is the Kavanaugh Chapter you speak of.
Title: Re: Sounds like BS and Crew are already coach'n 'em up
Post by: Bhyaaaaa! on April 15, 2009, 12:53:55 PM
Of cours they have to coach pitching.  More so if the kid didn't run it in high school.  Let's pretend that you guys actually played football.

Yeah, the bagging on our staff is cute and all (and sometimes justified), but some of the criticism is just piling on.  Of course, I don't know how much is legit and how much is just ksufans being ksufans.

it was just the way it was worded. of course if a drop back-ish QB has to all of a sudden start running the option, the nuances of reading the force, pitch relationship, timiing, etc have to be ironed out.  it's just funny.  maybe Snyds shouldn't be forcing the option on a guy like Schwinn Coffman when he isn't suited for it....if it's such an expansive, all encompassing playbook then flip to the part where the slow white guy doesn't have to get to the edge. 

That is the Kavanaugh Chapter you speak of.

Yup, I hope that Coffman isn't going to be getting his number called near as much as Ell - and rightfully so. I hope that it's an occasional option supplemented with Kassanavoid sometimes coming in or Thomas at the Wildcat to change it up. That's what I hope at least.

However, the Jeff Sch-lose Marshall game is relevant as it was an example of our gameplan not changing at all in lieu of a crapty, slow white guy coming in for a talented dual threat.
Title: Re: Sounds like BS and Crew are already coach'n 'em up
Post by: KSt8er on April 15, 2009, 12:54:38 PM
Of cours they have to coach pitching.  More so if the kid didn't run it in high school.  Let's pretend that you guys actually played football.

Yeah, the bagging on our staff is cute and all (and sometimes justified), but some of the criticism is just piling on.  Of course, I don't know how much is legit and how much is just ksufans being ksufans.

it was just the way it was worded. of course if a drop back-ish QB has to all of a sudden start running the option, the nuances of reading the force, pitch relationship, timiing, etc have to be ironed out.  it's just funny.  maybe Snyds shouldn't be forcing the option on a guy like Schwinn Coffman when he isn't suited for it....if it's such an expansive, all encompassing playbook then flip to the part where the slow white guy doesn't have to get to the edge.  

I'm not fooled by this tactic, the guys wanting the job from Coffman are the ones who Snyder is teaching to run the option, CC is just the one they can allow to be injured at his point.   Kass will rock that backfield come gameday.
Title: Re: Sounds like BS and Crew are already coach'n 'em up
Post by: Tulsa Cat on April 15, 2009, 01:22:30 PM
Of cours they have to coach pitching.  More so if the kid didn't run it in high school.  Let's pretend that you guys actually played football.

Yeah, the bagging on our staff is cute and all (and sometimes justified), but some of the criticism is just piling on.  Of course, I don't know how much is legit and how much is just ksufans being ksufans.

it was just the way it was worded. of course if a drop back-ish QB has to all of a sudden start running the option, the nuances of reading the force, pitch relationship, timiing, etc have to be ironed out.  it's just funny.  maybe Snyds shouldn't be forcing the option on a guy like Schwinn Coffman when he isn't suited for it....if it's such an expansive, all encompassing playbook then flip to the part where the slow white guy doesn't have to get to the edge.  

I'm not fooled by this tactic, the guys wanting the job from Coffman are the ones who Snyder is teaching to run the option, CC is just the one they can allow to be injured at his point.   Kass will rock that backfield come gameday.

1st sensible thing I've heard.  Well 23rd thing, but not in this thread, or today, this month, this year or..... :scared:

Is it just me or do any of you get a sense of at least this staff knows what their doing as opposed to the last bunch.  I mean some of prince caoches were good, in the NFL, but could they teach fundamentals?  Once your in the NFL you should know those.  I really feel this group will get more out of less as opposed to Prince who got less with ugh less. :confused:

No bunny ears anyway. :ksu:

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Title: Re: Sounds like BS and Crew are already coach'n 'em up
Post by: ksu_FAN on April 15, 2009, 01:29:36 PM
Of cours they have to coach pitching.  More so if the kid didn't run it in high school.  Let's pretend that you guys actually played football.

Yeah, the bagging on our staff is cute and all (and sometimes justified), but some of the criticism is just piling on.  Of course, I don't know how much is legit and how much is just ksufans being ksufans.

it was just the way it was worded. of course if a drop back-ish QB has to all of a sudden start running the option, the nuances of reading the force, pitch relationship, timiing, etc have to be ironed out.  it's just funny.  maybe Snyds shouldn't be forcing the option on a guy like Schwinn Coffman when he isn't suited for it....if it's such an expansive, all encompassing playbook then flip to the part where the slow white guy doesn't have to get to the edge.  

I'm not fooled by this tactic, the guys wanting the job from Coffman are the ones who Snyder is teaching to run the option, CC is just the one they can allow to be injured at his point.   Kass will rock that backfield come gameday.

Yeah, this isn't hard to figure out.  Its pretty clear no matter how broad the offense can be, Snyder will continue to use the QB run game and some option as part of it.  Heck, he had Chad May running the option back in the day, so its not like he hasn't taken QBs with little mobility and had them run before.  But Snyder bought in fully to the QB run game especially with Bishop, but probably starting with Miller who had pretty good mobility and running ability as well.  That is simply not going to go away and Snyder would be dumb to build the offense around Coffman.  If anything, this should be seen as a positive sign for Cat fans.
Title: Re: Sounds like BS and Crew are already coach'n 'em up
Post by: pissclams on April 15, 2009, 02:47:46 PM
:flush:   <---this thread.  attempting to bitch about every bit of news that comes out of our football program is the lame.

On the flip side, what else is there to talk about on this board at the moment?

kougs your new posting style sucks, take it from someone who knows suckage.

Same as it's always been.


.....Hey, wait a second...
no, no, no.  you've attempted to de-KSUFans.com yourself by being an overt negator. stop it now.    :kstatriot:
Title: Re: Sounds like BS and Crew are already coach'n 'em up
Post by: kougar24 on April 15, 2009, 04:10:11 PM
:flush:   <---this thread.  attempting to bitch about every bit of news that comes out of our football program is the lame.

On the flip side, what else is there to talk about on this board at the moment?

kougs your new posting style sucks, take it from someone who knows suckage.

Same as it's always been.


.....Hey, wait a second...
no, no, no.  you've attempted to de-KSUFans.com yourself by being an overt negator. stop it now.    :kstatriot:

I wish that were the case; I really do. But I really am just that pissed about the Snyder hiring. You don't seem to understand yet.
Title: Re: Sounds like BS and Crew are already coach'n 'em up
Post by: Purrrple on April 15, 2009, 06:22:56 PM
They are teaching the QB's how to read the LB's and safeties. Dumb@sses. And properly pitching a ball from either hand while reading the defense AND on the run is harder than most Playstation QB's realize. :jerkoff:
Title: Re: Sounds like BS and Crew are already coach'n 'em up
Post by: cireksu on April 15, 2009, 06:32:11 PM
Point being Carson coffman shouldn't have to make those decisions
Title: Re: Sounds like BS and Crew are already coach'n 'em up
Post by: Cole on April 15, 2009, 07:58:15 PM
they have to teach pitching the ball?

(http://content7.flixster.com/poll/91/78/91789_std.jpg)
Sunshine kinda looks like Sparkles.

so why did he ever kiss that one guy? never understood that part? or is it b/c he really is  :ku: