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Title: Still proud..Still EMAW
Post by: jester66 on March 03, 2009, 11:20:33 PM
Sucks we lost, but we played well overall.
Very much like the UT and A&M games except the pokes made the pivotal three at the end.
Think Frank is getting about 90% of potential this team; that's damn good.
We played much better this year than most would have thought and still can do some damage.
Plus, I still really like this team and program.  Not the best talent-wise, but play with a lot of heart and represent KSU well.

I'll slap it on myself to save you the trouble.
 :powertard:
Title: Re: Still proud..Still EMAW
Post by: nurple on March 03, 2009, 11:23:17 PM
It's really sad that some of us are content with going to the fracking NIT.  Sorry if I don't see home post-season games as a suitable replacement for going to the Dance.

 :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
Title: Re: Still proud..Still EMAW
Post by: PCR on March 03, 2009, 11:26:31 PM
Still need to beat uk to get into the NCAA.  Same situation as before the game. 
Title: Re: Still proud..Still EMAW
Post by: fatty fat fat on March 04, 2009, 12:02:41 AM
It's really sad that some of us are content with going to the fracking NIT.  Sorry if I don't see home post-season games as a suitable replacement for going to the Dance.

 :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

argyle square, plz.
Title: Re: Still proud..Still EMAW
Post by: nurple on March 04, 2009, 07:25:19 AM
It's really sad that some of us are content with going to the fracking NIT.  Sorry if I don't see home post-season games as a suitable replacement for going to the Dance.

 :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

argyle square, plz.

What a joke, Fatty.  I suppose I can only prove my EMAWness by pretending to be satisfied with the current situation.
Title: Re: Still proud..Still EMAW
Post by: catsfan20052006 on March 04, 2009, 08:00:04 AM
Sucks we lost, but we played well overall.
Very much like the UT and A&M games except the pokes made the pivotal three at the end.
Think Frank is getting about 90% of potential this team; that's damn good.
We played much better this year than most would have thought and still can do some damage.
Plus, I still really like this team and program.  Not the best talent-wise, but play with a lot of heart and represent KSU well.

I'll slap it on myself to save you the trouble.
 :powertard:

Agreed. If anybody would have told me before the season that we'd still have a shot at the NCAA's in March I would have been thrilled. NIT postseason experience is better than no postseason experience at all.
Title: Re: Still proud..Still EMAW
Post by: ksu_FAN on March 04, 2009, 08:02:45 AM
Sucks we lost, but we played well overall.
Very much like the UT and A&M games except the pokes made the pivotal three at the end.
Think Frank is getting about 90% of potential this team; that's damn good.
We played much better this year than most would have thought and still can do some damage.
Plus, I still really like this team and program.  Not the best talent-wise, but play with a lot of heart and represent KSU well.

I'll slap it on myself to save you the trouble.
 :powertard:

Favorable road for the Katz! (http://www.nitology.com/bracket3109.html)
Title: Re: Still proud..Still EMAW
Post by: catdude33 on March 04, 2009, 08:17:12 AM
It's really sad that some of us are content with going to the fracking NIT.  Sorry if I don't see home post-season games as a suitable replacement for going to the Dance.

 :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

argyle square, plz.

What a joke, Fatty.  I suppose I can only prove my EMAWness by pretending to be satisfied with the current situation.

Did you actually think we were going to make the NCAA's at the start of the year?  Our talent is garbage.  We start Luis Colon and Darren Kent.  It's amazing Frank has been able to "coach up" these losers to the NCAA bubble.  Next year, as the talent increases, I will have much higher expectations.
Title: Re: Still proud..Still EMAW
Post by: blackman-era-front-rower on March 04, 2009, 08:58:05 AM
Did you actually think we were going to make the NCAA's at the start of the year?  Our talent is garbage.  We start Luis Colon and Darren Kent.  It's amazing Frank has been able to "coach up" these losers to the NCAA bubble.  Next year, as the talent increases, I will have much higher expectations.

well said! (minus the insults) both of the players you named showed growth at times... this season is far from a waste, and the key players will be much improved for next year... i just hesitate to drop the "now we are a national contender" tag on the incoming recruits... we weren't with bill and mike, but might have been in their second year together... putting "higher expectations" on a batch of multi-star freshman is reasonable, expecting an automatic big12 championship and national contention is not only unfair but also insane... i'll just say we'll be better :kstatriot:

now let's do some EMAW damage in the big12 tourney and the nit
Title: Re: Still proud..Still EMAW
Post by: catsfan20052006 on March 04, 2009, 09:00:50 AM
It's really sad that some of us are content with going to the fracking NIT.  Sorry if I don't see home post-season games as a suitable replacement for going to the Dance.

 :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

argyle square, plz.

What a joke, Fatty.  I suppose I can only prove my EMAWness by pretending to be satisfied with the current situation.

Did you actually think we were going to make the NCAA's at the start of the year?  Our talent is garbage.  We start Luis Colon and Darren Kent.  It's amazing Frank has been able to "coach up" these losers to the NCAA bubble.  Next year, as the talent increases, I will have much higher expectations.

Darren Kent wasn't a loser when he made the plays that won the Nebraska game that put us in this position. The only loser I see here is you. The kind of person who is too dumb to understand when his own team lives up to expectations.
Title: Re: Still proud..Still EMAW
Post by: catdude33 on March 04, 2009, 09:15:28 AM
It's really sad that some of us are content with going to the fracking NIT.  Sorry if I don't see home post-season games as a suitable replacement for going to the Dance.

 :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

argyle square, plz.

What a joke, Fatty.  I suppose I can only prove my EMAWness by pretending to be satisfied with the current situation.

Did you actually think we were going to make the NCAA's at the start of the year?  Our talent is garbage.  We start Luis Colon and Darren Kent.  It's amazing Frank has been able to "coach up" these losers to the NCAA bubble.  Next year, as the talent increases, I will have much higher expectations.

Darren Kent wasn't a loser when he made the plays that won the Nebraska game that put us in this position. The only loser I see here is you. The kind of person who is too dumb to understand when his own team lives up to expectations.

You didn't understand my post.  Reread plz.
Title: Re: Still proud..Still EMAW
Post by: Saulbadguy on March 04, 2009, 09:16:53 AM
 :kstatriot:
Title: Re: Still proud..Still EMAW
Post by: catsfan20052006 on March 04, 2009, 09:30:29 AM
I read your post. You basically said that our talent is garbage which it obviously isn't.
Title: Re: Still proud..Still EMAW
Post by: pissclams on March 04, 2009, 09:40:32 AM
I read your post. You basically said that our talent is garbage which it obviously isn't.
It's really sad that some of us are content with going to the fracking NIT.  Sorry if I don't see home post-season games as a suitable replacement for going to the Dance.

 :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

argyle square, plz.

What a joke, Fatty.  I suppose I can only prove my EMAWness by pretending to be satisfied with the current situation.

Did you actually think we were going to make the NCAA's at the start of the year?  Our talent is garbage.  We start Luis Colon and Darren Kent.  It's amazing Frank has been able to "coach up" these losers to the NCAA bubble.  Next year, as the talent increases, I will have much higher expectations.

Darren Kent wasn't a loser when he made the plays that won the Nebraska game that put us in this position. 
yes he was, hOPE tHAT hELPS
Title: Re: Still proud..Still EMAW
Post by: Ghost of Stan Parrish on March 04, 2009, 09:48:12 AM
"Garbage talent" probably overstates the problem, but the talent on this team isn't obviously NCAA tourney-level.  Frank did a great job even getting us into the conversation, playing ABOVE our talent level (and recovering from the first half of the season when we played below our talent level IMHO).

Great season, Kahtz!  Let's roll the NIT (or win the Big XII tourney!).
Title: Re: Still proud..Still EMAW
Post by: sonofdaxjones on March 04, 2009, 09:53:59 AM
We Start Darren Kent and Lu Colon . . . the fact that Kent has become a "go to" guy should tell you all you need to know.   Kent is a nice story, essentially a no talent who has been coached up to produce something, but guys like Kent can only take you so far. 

I still question some of the stuff Frank does, but overall he's done a good job this year.

Title: Re: Still proud..Still EMAW
Post by: Saulbadguy on March 04, 2009, 09:57:23 AM
Our talent is 5-11 at best, tbh.  Coached up.  :kstatriot:
Title: Re: Still proud..Still EMAW
Post by: dyshod on March 04, 2009, 10:03:59 AM
Sucks we lost, but we played well overall.
Very much like the UT and A&M games except the pokes made the pivotal three at the end.
Think Frank is getting about 90% of potential this team; that's damn good.
We played much better this year than most would have thought and still can do some damage.
Plus, I still really like this team and program.  Not the best talent-wise, but play with a lot of heart and represent KSU well.

I'll slap it on myself to save you the trouble.
 :powertard:

Favorable road for the Katz! (http://www.nitology.com/bracket3109.html)

Possible opportunity for Denis to take revenge on Miami! :love:
Title: Re: Still proud..Still EMAW
Post by: Saulbadguy on March 04, 2009, 10:06:24 AM
Frank Martin vs Andy Kennedy possibility?   :fatty:
Title: Re: Still proud..Still EMAW
Post by: ksu_FAN on March 04, 2009, 10:11:18 AM
Call me whatever, but if we are in the NIT we might as well enjoy it as much as possible.  And frankly, this will be a solid NIT field.  Look at some of the teams and names in there and it certainly isn't some easy tournament to win.  Since the NIT was taken over by the NCAA, its become a much more legit tournament with a much more legit field.  Granted, the NCAA is still the goal and what you strive for, but getting NITs once in a while, especially in a transition year like it has been for us, shouldn't be viewed the way it once was IMO.  Make the most of it and enjoy more college basketball.
Title: Re: Still proud..Still EMAW
Post by: Saulbadguy on March 04, 2009, 10:19:28 AM
Call me whatever, but if we are in the NIT we might as well enjoy it as much as possible.  And frankly, this will be a solid NIT field.  Look at some of the teams and names in there and it certainly isn't some easy tournament to win.  Since the NIT was taken over by the NCAA, its become a much more legit tournament with a much more legit field.  Granted, the NCAA is still the goal and what you strive for, but getting NITs once in a while, especially in a transition year like it has been for us, shouldn't be viewed the way it once was IMO.  Make the most of it and enjoy more college basketball.
We used to be on the NIT bubble,  :hope: for it!!
Title: Re: Still proud..Still EMAW
Post by: dyshod on March 04, 2009, 10:30:34 AM
Call me whatever, but if we are the NIT we might as much enjoy it as much as possible.  And frankly, this will be a solid NIT field.  Look at some of the teams and names in there and it certainly isn't some easy tournament to win.  Since the NIT was taken over by the NCAA, its become a much more legit tournament with a much more legit field.  Granted, the NCAA is still the goal and what you strive for, but getting NITs once in a while, especially in a transition year like it has been for us, shouldn't be viewed the way it once was IMO.  Make the most of it and enjoy more college basketball.

Absolutely agree.  Of course I will always prefer an NCAA bid over the NIT, but I don't view being ok with the NIT as "settling" for the NIT.  It is what it is this year and postseason play is a positive result for this team.  I also think that playing in NIT semifinal and final games could be more mentally beneficial to this team than a first round exit in the NCAAs.
Title: Re: Still proud..Still EMAW
Post by: ltrain37 on March 04, 2009, 10:36:07 AM
Sucks to be out of the NCAA tourney picture, but it was fun getting wrapped up in all the bubble talk.  But its not like we'll never get another chance to make it, we've got help on the way next year.  Imagine what Frank can do if he doesn't have to rebuild the roster from one year to the next.

 :kstatriot:
Title: Re: Still proud..Still EMAW
Post by: jthutch on March 04, 2009, 11:36:27 AM
We are going to win the Big 12 championship so stop all this NIT talk!!  EMAW Mother FRANKERS. :kstatriot: :kstatriot:
Title: Re: Still proud..Still EMAW
Post by: EmporiaWildcat on March 04, 2009, 11:49:38 AM
Let's go for the CBI instead.
Title: Re: Still proud..Still EMAW
Post by: catdude33 on March 04, 2009, 11:53:43 AM
but it was fun getting wrapped up in all the bubble talk.

Disagree.  Hate bubble talk.  Will be nice to be solidly in next season and have "seed talk" instead.
Title: Re: Still proud..Still EMAW
Post by: Pett on March 04, 2009, 11:54:47 AM
Our talent is 5-11 at best, tbh.  Coached up.  :kstatriot:

I'm thinking 6-10. But yes, I do agree with this...

People have definitely taken the coaching job that this staff has put together this season for granted.
Title: Re: Still proud..Still EMAW
Post by: Jesus Shuttlesworth on March 04, 2009, 12:04:39 PM
It's really sad that some of us are content with going to the fracking NIT.  Sorry if I don't see home post-season games as a suitable replacement for going to the Dance.

Gift horse, etc...
Title: Re: Still proud..Still EMAW
Post by: EmporiaWildcat on March 04, 2009, 12:29:02 PM
but it was fun getting wrapped up in all the bubble talk.

Disagree.  Hate bubble talk.  Will be nice to be solidly in next season and have "seed talk" instead.

Couldn't agree more.
Title: Re: Still proud..Still EMAW
Post by: Bullfn33 on March 04, 2009, 12:56:36 PM
Sucks we lost, but we played well overall.
Very much like the UT and A&M games except the pokes made the pivotal three at the end.
Think Frank is getting about 90% of potential this team; that's damn good.
We played much better this year than most would have thought and still can do some damage.
Plus, I still really like this team and program.  Not the best talent-wise, but play with a lot of heart and represent KSU well.

I'll slap it on myself to save you the trouble.
 :powertard:

Favorable road for the Katz! (http://www.nitology.com/bracket3109.html)

LOL, we could beat USC for the third time in three years.

I remember back in '05 when we were all hoping to actually crash the NIT, then we got snubbed and everybody was all like "WTF?" Fast forward four years and we are about to finish with our third straight 20 win season, a third straight post-season appy and a third straight top four seed in the Big 12 tourney and everyone is livid we might have to settle for the NIT in a rebuilding year. And it is only going to keep getting better. Just a little more perspective.
Title: Re: Still proud..Still EMAW
Post by: Cougar2k on March 04, 2009, 02:07:35 PM
Since we're so "coached up", does that make frank a SLTH?
Title: Re: Still proud..Still EMAW
Post by: ksu_FAN on March 04, 2009, 02:12:36 PM
Since we're so "coached up", does that make frank a SLTH?

Good question. 

I'd say no b/c Frank uses a lot of anti-SLTH philosophy like offensive rebounding and transition basketball.
Title: Re: Still proud..Still EMAW
Post by: catdude33 on March 04, 2009, 03:07:03 PM
Since we're so "coached up", does that make frank a SLTH?

After his third season he'll have already coached 2, possibly 3 McDAA's.  Frank is not even in the SLTH discussion.
Title: Re: Still proud..Still EMAW
Post by: wildcat371 on March 04, 2009, 04:39:23 PM
It's really sad that some of us are content with going to the fracking NIT.  Sorry if I don't see home post-season games as a suitable replacement for going to the Dance.

 :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

After being predicted to not go anywhere and still have this kind of season?

Damn right I'm proud and happy with any post season bid :ksu:
Title: Re: Still proud..Still EMAW
Post by: ksuwildcats80591 on March 04, 2009, 07:18:53 PM
This year's team was very much like last year's Florida team, only with more talent coming in next year and Frank did a much better coaching job imho. Both teams were in a transitional year, both rode the bubble late into the season and had a chance to make a case for themselves at the end of the conference season (katz @ osu, uf @ uk1), and both, probably, will go to the NIT. All in all, after a horrible start and lack-luster talent (I agree white tiger is a great story, but come on he wouldn't start for most of the teams in the tourney) I am awfully happy with the way this team fought and played which is a true testament to Frank's coaching. I'll be the first to say it, next year it will be us and the squawks battling it out for the Big XII. :kstatriot: :kstatriot:
Title: Re: Still proud..Still EMAW
Post by: catdude33 on March 04, 2009, 08:48:20 PM
This year's team was very much like last year's Florida team

no.