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Fan Life => The Endzone Dive => Topic started by: yoga-lika_abana on January 20, 2009, 07:36:37 PM
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Anybody still watch it? Anybody excited? :shy:
http://abc.go.com/primetime/lost/index?pn=index
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omg sooo excited. Seriously, where did the island go?!
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:ksu: times like a million.
episode 3 from the new season preview
s much as I thoroughly enjoyed the first two episodes of this season, "Jughead," the third episode completely wiped the floor with me. I was alternately stunned, teary, shocked, and dismayed over the course of the forty-odd minutes that this episode ran. To say that this is a game-changing episode is a bit of an understatement, though not in the way that the flash-forwards or the rescue were. It's more the fact that this single installment answers so many of the underlying mini-mysteries that have kept us wondering for quite a while.
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not a spoiler, but a look at things to come.
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s much as I thoroughly enjoyed the first two episodes of this season, "Jughead," the third episode completely wiped the floor with me. I was alternately stunned, teary, shocked, and dismayed over the course of the forty-odd minutes that this episode ran. To say that this is a game-changing episode is a bit of an understatement, though not in the way that the flash-forwards or the rescue were. It's more the fact that this single installment answers so many of the underlying mini-mysteries that have kept us wondering for quite a while.
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yeah you kinda had to think they would start answering some ?'s this season. and its about damn time, hopefully all the "answers" don't suck.
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I'm really glad that they have an end-date for the series, that will make it much easier for them to give us all the answers in good time.
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I will be devastated when this show is over. Much more so than the wire maybe.
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people that watch this and "heros" piss me off. such stupid tv shows.
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:eek:
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people that watch this and "heros" piss me off. such stupid tv shows.
PEOPLE THAT WATCH THE SHOWS THAT YOU LIKE TO WATCH PISS ME OFF!!!!!1! BECAUSE THOSE SHOWS ARE ACTUALLY THE STUPID ONES!!! :mad:
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tried to watch "lost"
and did, bought season 1 and watched all 24 (?) episodes in one weekend. despite every episode lasting 40+ minutes, nothing ever seemed to happen. it was like a gaywad torture party with a fist attachment device.
just not my cup of tea.
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It got a lot better.
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It got a lot better.
it might have gotten better but I will never get that weekend back. :mad:
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It got a lot better.
it might have gotten better but I will never get that weekend back. :mad:
netflix? give it another chance? Don't lose that weekend in vain.
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it's gone brau, just let it go
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at the end of season 1 before the last episode, they had one of those "catch up" shows which show the highlights of the entire season....after I saw that, I was like "wow, incredible show" so i watched the final episode of that season and was hooked.....later I find out that the reason that "catch up" episode is so good is because they use the 5 minutes of non-garbage footage from each 1hr long episode.....but like a crack whore I can't quit it.
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at the end of season 1 before the last episode, they had one of those "catch up" shows which show the highlights of the entire season....after I saw that, I was like "wow, incredible show" so i watched the final episode of that season and was hooked.....later I find out that the reason that "catch up" episode is so good is because they use the 5 minutes of non-garbage footage from each 1hr long episode.....but like a crack whore I can't quit it.
pretty much how I got hooked but in season 2. Missed the whole first season and watched it during that long break in season 3.
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I've been watching since the beginning. :gocho: :users:
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Lost is pretty much the greatest thing on planet earth.
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Hey guys I just had a great idea. Let's all meet back here tomorrow and share our thoughts/reactions to the season premier!! Great idea, huh?
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Lost is pretty much the greatest thing on planet earth.
QFMFT
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Lost is good tv.
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giddy like a school girl
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Once that guy got sucked into a jet engine in the pilot I was all :excited:. Good show.
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Kate or Claire? :tongue:
Kate is hotter but Claire's accent is delicious. However, she has already pushed a baby through. Ewe.
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Juliet IMO.
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Lost is pretty much the greatest thing on planet earth.
QFMFT
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But, sometimes I get pissed off about it. I mean, stop and explain the &@#%ing polar bears already. Did one fall into a portal and end up on the island? Is that how one ended up dead in the desert? WTF?
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Lost is pretty much the greatest thing on planet earth.
QFMFT
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But, sometimes I get pissed off about it. I mean, stop and explain the fracking polar bears already. Did one fall into a portal and end up on the island? Is that how one ended up dead in the desert? WTF?
Here are my Top 15 questions in no particular order:
1. smoke monster?!
2. What's Dharma?
3. What is the goal of the others?!
4. Where did the fracking island go?!
5. Polar bears?
6. Why do people get healed on the island?
7. Who is Jacob? (or what is jacob?) :ohno:
8. Significance of lotto numbers?
9. Seeing dead people?
10. What is Charles Widmore's deal-eo?
11. What's up with Walt appearing everywhere?
12. Why doesn't that one "Other" dude get any older?!
13. How is it that Hurley is still incred. obese?
14. Is Ben good or is he bad?
15. Why is it that everyone on the island seems to have had connections before the plane crash?
:confused:
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Here are my Top 15 questions in no particular order:
1. smoke monster? No idea
2. What's Dharma? Widmore group that studied the island properties
3. What is the goal of the others? Keep widmore away.
4. Where did the fracking island go?! Another place in time?
5. Polar bears? part of experiment?
6. Why do people get healed on the island? One of several Island properties Dharma tried to understand/harness.
7. Who is Jacob? (or what is jacob?) Some person that we've probably met before stuck in time.
8. Significance of lotto numbers? Nothing, I think that i read from the producers the numbers were dead a while ago.
9. Seeing dead people? Not dead, popping in and out of time and space.
10. What is Charles Widmore's deal-eo? trying to find the Island, knows Ben destroyed Dharma
11. What's up with Walt appearing everywhere? Really want to know
12. Why doesn't that one "Other" dude get any older?! really want to know.
13. How is it that Hurley is still incred. obese? LOL
14. Is Ben good or is he bad? Bad, but so is widmore.
15. Why is it that everyone on the island seems to have had connections before the plane crash? want to know.
my thoughts.
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Here are my Top 15 questions in no particular order:
1. smoke monster? No idea
2. What's Dharma? Widmore group that studied the island properties
3. What is the goal of the others? Keep widmore away.
4. Where did the fracking island go?! Another place in time?
5. Polar bears? part of experiment?
6. Why do people get healed on the island? One of several Island properties Dharma tried to understand/harness.
7. Who is Jacob? (or what is jacob?) Some person that we've probably met before stuck in time.
8. Significance of lotto numbers? Nothing, I think that i read from the producers the numbers were dead a while ago.
9. Seeing dead people? Not dead, popping in and out of time and space.
10. What is Charles Widmore's deal-eo? trying to find the Island, knows Ben destroyed Dharma
11. What's up with Walt appearing everywhere? Really want to know
12. Why doesn't that one "Other" dude get any older?! really want to know.
13. How is it that Hurley is still incred. obese? LOL
14. Is Ben good or is he bad? Bad, but so is widmore.
15. Why is it that everyone on the island seems to have had connections before the plane crash? want to know.
my thoughts.
Wow, never even thought about the whole time/space angle. That just melted my brain. Thanks cireksu!!
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I read an interview with the writers that this season will frack with our heads even more. Before, they had flash-backs and flash-forwards....but this season, they'll just have "flashes." We won't really know if it is back or forward in time at the time we watch it.
:eek:
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I read an interview with the writers that this season will frack with our heads even more. Before, they had flash-backs and flash-forwards....but this season, they'll just have "flashes." We won't really know if it is back or forward in time at the time we watch it.
:eek:
I read where people will travel with the flashes, essentially what happened to Desmond and what will happen to Faraday.
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I heard there wasn't even a storyline and the writers didn't do anything. They just shot what they felt like and went with it so people at home would try to figure out what was going on when, in fact, nothing was going on.
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I heard there wasn't even a storyline and the writers didn't do anything. They just shot what they felt like and went with it so people at home would try to figure out what was going on when, in fact, nothing was going on.
gmaFb, go back to "Entourage," bra
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I heard there wasn't even a storyline and the writers didn't do anything. They just shot what they felt like and went with it so people at home would try to figure out what was going on when, in fact, nothing was going on.
gmaFb, go back to "Entourage," bra
Have honestly never watched an episode of entourage or lost.
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well that steals my thunder, doesn't it?
:curse:
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lost is very good.
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Hey guys, question: Do you want Kate to end up with Jack or Sawyer??
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Hey guys, question: Do you want Kate to end up with Jack or Sawyer??
claire :fatty:
just kidding. if i cared i'd prob have to say jack cause sawyer is kind of a tard, ya know.
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The non-watchers can catch up by reading this (http://throwingthings.blogspot.com/2009_01_18_archive.html#8633932775461248659).
Pretty simple story when you read it like that.
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Hey guys, question: Do you want Kate to end up with Jack or Sawyer??
Sawyer. Totally want him to dig tunnels.
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Hey guys, question: Do you want Kate to end up with Jack or Sawyer??
claire :fatty:
and Juliette..... yeah.....
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Hey guys, question: Do you want Kate to end up with Jack or Sawyer??
Sawyer. Totally want him to dig tunnels.
so that he can lay pipe?
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Good episode. Juliet had great sweaty cleavage action.
"We can't even get fire."
lolol
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Great episode. I'm glad Farahday met up with his constant, Desmond, and didn't have to start dyin like his woman..cant even remember her name..seein Hurley runnin around was also quite enjoyable. lookin forward to next week..should be intense! :popcorn:
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loved the return of Mrs. Hawking at the end. Wonder how they'll get back?
:eek:
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Faraday is quickly becoming my favorite character.
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Desmond is mine, like faraday.
sayid is meh now. Locke, meh
Alpert
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i agree, Locke is very meh lately.
Seems like they are making him out to be a big part of the rest of the show, though, so maybe he'll get more interesting.
Excited to see the mexican chick again.
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:runaway:
qft :runaway:
great episode should be a good season :woohoo:
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Hey guys, question: Do you want Kate to end up with Jack or Sawyer??
Me.
Seriously, Lost is like cocaine. The first season it was pure and I got addicted. Then the second season they started cutting the coke with baby laxative and I started to go through weird highs. Then the third season it was like 90% baby laxative and I couldn't get off anymore, so I went to rehab about midway.
I'm surprised people have had the patience to keep watching this thing. I don't think the writers have any real purpose or design, they're just throwing darts, and that is the sloppiest kind of storytelling there is. Hell, William Burroughs already did the "get stoned and write what I feel" shtick with Naked Lunch. Lost is so last year.
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Hey guys, question: Do you want Kate to end up with Jack or Sawyer??
Me.
Seriously, Lost is like cocaine. The first season it was pure and I got addicted. Then the second season they started cutting the coke with baby laxative and I started to go through weird highs. Then the third season it was like 90% baby laxative and I couldn't get off anymore, so I went to rehab about midway.
I'm surprised people have had the patience to keep watching this thing. I don't think the writers have any real purpose or design, they're just throwing darts, and that is the sloppiest kind of storytelling there is. Hell, William Burroughs already did the "get stoned and write what I feel" shtick with Naked Lunch. Lost is so last year.
Go watch Baby's Tears again, loser.
No offense.
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It was good then it got bad then it got good again.
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Juliet IMO.
Somebody has to take the ugly girls off the market for the team. Thanks for doing your part.
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Juliet IMO.
Somebody has to take the ugly girls off the market for the team. Thanks for doing your part.
it's the cleavage. And the kind of milfy look.
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Juliet IMO.
Somebody has to take the ugly girls off the market for the team. Thanks for doing your part.
it's the cleavage. And the kind of milfy look.
She always has that look in her eye like she's a monster in the sack. :tongue:
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Dudes, don't know if this has been posted ever but this website is krazy. Its some guys very, extremely elaborate theory about what's taking place on the show. Who knows if its correct, but its a good read. Let me warn you though, if you don't want to read a bunch of stuff that hasn't been revealed yet that may or may not be correct then don't read this.
http://www.timelooptheory.com/the_timeline.html (http://www.timelooptheory.com/the_timeline.html)
Check out the Q&A's also.
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I cannot wait for tomorrow.
this site has tons of great stuff. The show recaps are amazing.
http://darkufo.blogspot.com/
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Hey cireksu, did you check out my link? Did it blow your mind?
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Dudes, don't know if this has been posted ever but this website is krazy. Its some guys very, extremely elaborate theory about what's taking place on the show. Who knows if its correct, but its a good read. Let me warn you though, if you don't want to read a bunch of stuff that hasn't been revealed yet that may or may not be correct then don't read this.
http://www.timelooptheory.com/the_timeline.html (http://www.timelooptheory.com/the_timeline.html)
Check out the Q&A's also.
good stuff
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Dudes, don't know if this has been posted ever but this website is krazy. Its some guys very, extremely elaborate theory about what's taking place on the show. Who knows if its correct, but its a good read. Let me warn you though, if you don't want to read a bunch of stuff that hasn't been revealed yet that may or may not be correct then don't read this.
http://www.timelooptheory.com/the_timeline.html (http://www.timelooptheory.com/the_timeline.html)
Check out the Q&A's also.
good stuff
Great stuff. Though just like some people might spend too much time on a sports message board, others spend too much time thinking about Lost. Just sayin'.
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will miss the episode tonight because of the game :frown: luckily abc has it on there website.
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ABC always has episodes up. plus normally they'll re-air on saturday evenings, or at least have been lately.
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dvr dude.
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No thoughts on last night's episode yet? I thought it was pretty damn good.
A couple thoughts. Can Charlie be Desmond's son? Also, Is Ms. Hawking Faraday's mom? Is Ellie (the woman introduced in this episode that let Faraday to the Jughead by gunpoint) a younger Ms. Hawking?
Will be interesting seeing how this all plays out.
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I also thought about Charlie being Desmond's son.
Interesting that Whitmore was on the island in the 50's. This was one of those episodes that wasn't very exciting, but it helps progress the story.
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s much as I thoroughly enjoyed the first two episodes of this season, "Jughead," the third episode completely wiped the floor with me. I was alternately stunned, teary, shocked, and dismayed over the course of the forty-odd minutes that this episode ran. To say that this is a game-changing episode is a bit of an understatement, though not in the way that the flash-forwards or the rescue were. It's more the fact that this single installment answers so many of the underlying mini-mysteries that have kept us wondering for quite a while.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
not a spoiler, but a look at things to come.
Kind of disappointed. Good epi. but not really the "game changer" that I had been expecting.
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This was only the second episode, though...that talked about the third?
Or was there 2 episodes last night and I fracked up?
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No thoughts on last night's episode yet? I thought it was pretty damn good.
A couple thoughts. Can Charlie be Desmond's son? Also, Is Ms. Hawking Faraday's mom? Is Ellie (the woman introduced in this episode that let Faraday to the Jughead by gunpoint) a younger Ms. Hawking?
Will be interesting seeing how this all plays out.
I'm pretty sure Desmond named him after Charlie, since they 'bonded' before Charlie bit the big one for everyone.
I thought for a while Ms. Hawking is Faraday's mom. I'm not sure there is an Ellie connection anywhere. Finding out about Whitmore was huge. The Whitmore/Ben connection and Dharma's origin are the two biggest questions remaining. Seeing more and more of the island's past is intriguing. I wonder if we'll eventually see dinosaurs.
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This was only the second episode, though...that talked about the third?
Or was there 2 episodes last night and I fracked up?
There were 2 episodes the on the season premier. The quote references the 3rd episode "jughead" which was last nights episode I think.
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s much as I thoroughly enjoyed the first two episodes of this season, "Jughead," the third episode completely wiped the floor with me. I was alternately stunned, teary, shocked, and dismayed over the course of the forty-odd minutes that this episode ran. To say that this is a game-changing episode is a bit of an understatement, though not in the way that the flash-forwards or the rescue were. It's more the fact that this single installment answers so many of the underlying mini-mysteries that have kept us wondering for quite a while.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
not a spoiler, but a look at things to come.
Kind of disappointed. Good epi. but not really the "game changer" that I had been expecting.
I dunno, i was dissapointed at first too but realized that Widmore being an "OTHER" is pretty big, considering he and Ben are at such odds with eachother.
I think Ellie defn. could be Hawking.
also thought it was interesting that lock and alpert's meeting in the epi possibly led to alpert visiting locke as a child (timeloop).
still begs the question, what are the others and when/how did they get there?
I'm thinking Black rock?
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they talk so much about how they can't alter the past/future, but wouldn't locke be altering the future by telling alpert to visit him when he's a little guy?
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no because it happened regardless didn't it? It's fate.
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they talk so much about how they can't alter the past/future, but wouldn't locke be altering the future by telling alpert to visit him when he's a little guy?
You can change things, but whatever is meant to happen will happen regardless of what they do. This has been a long standing theory. Michael Crichton has used it in Timeline. Hell, Terminator thrives off it.
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desmond may be able to change things.
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yeah, but how do we know that he wasn't visiting because locke told him to?
maybe our "present" already happened?
i hate time-travel, confuses the piss out of me.
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yeah, but how do we know that he wasn't visiting because locke told him to?
maybe our "present" already happened?
i hate time-travel, confuses the piss out of me.
agreed.
this season is turning out to be pretty sweet though.
I wonder if Widdmore is going to get kicked off of the island or what happened there?
charlie was the name of desmonds baby, also odd.
whats happening with Charlotte?
How does Locke end up dying or does he actually die?
How do they stop the constant time travel?
etc. etc. etc.
so many questions, need more answers.
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thought it was worth mentioning that they did the whole episode last night with only 3 of the "originals"....Locke, Sawyer, Desmond. Wonder how much screen-time some actors will get now that they've split the cast into islanders and non-islanders.
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Finding out about Whitmore was huge. The Whitmore/Ben connection and Dharma's origin are the two biggest questions remaining.
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I am thinking that Whitmore may have been the leader of the others between Richard and Ben or at least next in line after Richard. Then, probably forced off the island.
Maybe Whitmore became the leader of the others and then created Dharma and that is why he was forced off the island? We know Ben didn't get along with the Dharma group.
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also we know the island has "magical powers'' as shown by Locke being able to walk their and many other things. But is it also like never never land, I mean the Alpert guy hasn't aged at all or something else?
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Widmore is after Dharma and the others are established, I believe. Hell, who knows.
What about this- If Elly is Ms. Hawking, is Faraday's father, what if Whidmore is Faraday's father? It would explain why he is funding the hospital bills. Much like Christian fathering Claire and funding for her mom's hospital bills.
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also we know the island has "magical powers'' as shown by Locke being able to walk their and many other things. But is it also like never never land, I mean the Alpert guy hasn't aged at all or something else?
Not to mention black lady doesn't have cancer. I think the island being as mysterious as it is is why everyone wants to be there and why everything is happening there.
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Locke can walk and the black lady doesn't have cancer because when the plane crashed on the island they went from 2004 back in time to 1996. That's why they have to follow those special coordinates to and from the island. Because they are going back in time!! In 1996 Locke's accident hasn't happened yet and black lady hasn't developed cancer.
Did you people not read my link??
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Locke can walk and the black lady doesn't have cancer because when the plane crashed on the island they went from 2004 back in time to 1996. That's why they have to follow those special coordinates to and from the island. Because they are going back in time!! In 1996 Locke's accident hasn't happened yet and black lady hasn't developed cancer.
Did you people not read my link??
Let me warn you though, if you don't want to read a bunch of stuff that hasn't been revealed yet that may or may not be correct then don't read this.
this is why/\
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Locke can walk and the black lady doesn't have cancer because when the plane crashed on the island they went from 2004 back in time to 1996. That's why they have to follow those special coordinates to and from the island. Because they are going back in time!! In 1996 Locke's accident hasn't happened yet and black lady hasn't developed cancer.
Did you people not read my link??
I appreciated the link. Doesn't say too much or give away what is going to happen in future episodes, but sure makes what is happening make more sense. That guy seems to have a theory that fits most of the things that have gone on so far.
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dudes, Jin is alive!! Sun is going to be so excited. Pretty good epi.
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pretty good, who were the doods shooting at them in the boat! With an Indian airline waterbottle WTF?
also anyone try and call the number on Kate's phone? :ohno:
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I could have sworn that life raft looked too modern to be rousoue's (sp). But apparently it is. Guess I'm not up to date on my life raft technologies of the past. did rousou and jin ever meet each other on the island after the plane crash?
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I could have sworn that life raft looked too modern to be rousoue's (sp). But apparently it is. Guess I'm not up to date on my life raft technologies of the past. did rousou and jin ever meet each other on the island after the plane crash?
I have a feeling that a lot of groups of people are just jumping around in time on that island...or that they have been stuck in the time loop before (but are already out of it).
The others, who focus a lot of Richard but we really don't know about the non-Richard others and if they seem to be non-aging. Maybe they are still jumping around as well and the show has hidden that fact over the last 4 seasons.
Russou's group may have a newer raft from another time period and found Gin in the 'present' - at some point, that group fixed the time jumping issue and Russou might of been the only one left. I did find it interesting that she was preggo. Surely that isn't ben's child and will be interesting to find out how that is worked in..
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No, ben took the girl/can't remember her name. Like Ethan was trying to do with Claire.
Interesting though, do you guys remember from season 1 if Rousseau remembered Jin or anything when she came to camp and stuff?
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No, ben took the girl/can't remember her name. Like Ethan was trying to do with Claire.
Interesting though, do you guys remember from season 1 if Rousseau remembered Jin or anything when she came to camp and stuff?
Oh, I didn't remember that at all about ben stealing the baby. I assumed they had the baby together since Russou didn't kill ben with the 10 opportunities that he had.
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No, ben took the girl/can't remember her name. Like Ethan was trying to do with Claire.
Interesting though, do you guys remember from season 1 if Rousseau remembered Jin or anything when she came to camp and stuff?
I don't think she did, and I don't think that's how it works. For instance, Desmond had no recollection of Farady even though he saw him before he met him....rather Desmond had a memory (in real time) of that event. So if Rousseau was alive now, she would have that memory of Jin.
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omfg
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omfg
didn't watch....I was at the game....looked like a good one though :ohno:
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What's the theory behind Jack's dad being all over the island? Is he Jacob?
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What's the theory behind Jack's dad being all over the island? Is he Jacob?
Yes. Jacob has taken the role of Jack's dad, Walt, etc. I'm also pretty sure it's the smoke monster. Remember the black powder around the cabin?
This almost makes me think Jacob is not a sentient being, but perhaps an AI or something built to defend the island.
I will say I'm losing interest in the time jumping. It really felt like it should have been condensed to one, maybe two episodes (I really did want to see dinosaurs though). Hopefully it's over now, though.
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I like the time twist.
I'm also not convinced that Christian is Jacob. Jacob might be good/ Christian evil. Hence Jacob calling for help, dissapearing and christian showing up since then.
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Very good episode. But now we've added to the mix the well and the temple as weird junk on the island. Still fitting with the timeloop guys theory for the most part, except for these new additions.
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Very good episode. But now we've added to the mix the well and the temple as weird junk on the island. Still fitting with the timeloop guys theory for the most part, except for these new additions.
That has some very good potential.
And who Faradays mom is :runaway: Suprised Faraday hasn't been killed yet it sounds like he has gone back in time some to try and alter the future.
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Very good episode. But now we've added to the mix the well and the temple as weird junk on the island. Still fitting with the timeloop guys theory for the most part, except for these new additions.
That has some very good potential.
And who Faradays mom is :runaway: Suprised Faraday hasn't been killed yet it sounds like he has gone back in time some to try and alter the future.
But Faraday also knows the secret of constants. He met with Desmond- his constant- in the hatch during the time shifts.
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Very good episode. But now we've added to the mix the well and the temple as weird junk on the island. Still fitting with the timeloop guys theory for the most part, except for these new additions.
That has some very good potential.
And who Faradays mom is :runaway: Suprised Faraday hasn't been killed yet it sounds like he has gone back in time some to try and alter the future.
But Faraday also knows the secret of constants. He met with Desmond- his constant- in the hatch during the time shifts.
Yeah I was just meaning I was suprised Ben or someone hasn't killed him yet.
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Very good episode. But now we've added to the mix the well and the temple as weird junk on the island. Still fitting with the timeloop guys theory for the most part, except for these new additions.
That has some very good potential.
And who Faradays mom is :runaway: Suprised Faraday hasn't been killed yet it sounds like he has gone back in time some to try and alter the future.
But Faraday also knows the secret of constants. He met with Desmond- his constant- in the hatch during the time shifts.
Yeah I was just meaning I was suprised Ben or someone hasn't killed him yet.
I don't recall, any Faraday/Ben interactions in the show? Faraday has definately taken a large leap forward in the importance of his character.
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Very good episode. But now we've added to the mix the well and the temple as weird junk on the island. Still fitting with the timeloop guys theory for the most part, except for these new additions.
That has some very good potential.
And who Faradays mom is :runaway: Suprised Faraday hasn't been killed yet it sounds like he has gone back in time some to try and alter the future.
But Faraday also knows the secret of constants. He met with Desmond- his constant- in the hatch during the time shifts.
Yeah I was just meaning I was suprised Ben or someone hasn't killed him yet.
I don't recall, any Faraday/Ben interactions in the show? Faraday has definately taken a large leap forward in the importance of his character.
I couldn't tell from ben's reaction to desmond saying "I'm here to see farady's mom" whether ben was surprised because desmond knew that fact or that ben didn't know that hawkins was farady's mom.
farady has had no "contact" with ben, but farady should (I would presume) know who ben is based on farady's time on the freighter with those mercenaries.
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Does Desmond have to go back also? He wasn't part of the Oceanic 6.
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Does Desmond have to go back also? He wasn't part of the Oceanic 6.
good question. I wouldn't think so. Other question does Jin and Sun's kid have to come back? It was conceived on the island but not born on the island?
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I was wondering about their kid. I was also wondering why not Michael and Walt? How does them leaving the island differ from the people on the chopper?
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I was wondering about their kid. I was also wondering why not Michael and Walt? How does them leaving the island differ from the people on the chopper?
wow I had totally forgotten about Walt but Michael is dead isn't he. I wonder if there are some people that are not supposed to leave the island and others that can. :dunno:
I love how the whole time they acted like everyone had to go back at the same time and then at the end of the episode all she and ben said was this was all you could get I guess it will work for now.
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I think the theme is that the "6" not including sun's kid and not including Walt and or Michael.
I think that's why walt and michael could go in the first place, ben/the Island don't need them.
Desmond is a wild card, things don't seem to apply to him the same way they apply to everyone else.
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GMAFB with the shoes...
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I think it's some sort of Wizard of oz reference? Henry Gale etc?
meh, but next week looked pretty awesome.
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ben is evil. pure, self-serving evil. which is awesome.
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ben is evil. pure, self-serving evil. which is awesome.
yeah, I liked when Jack asked if Ben was lying and Hawking was like "probably"
and when Ben was asked what happens to the other people on the plane he was all "GMAFB, who cares"
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is it not weird how basically everyone's parents are involved also? jacks dad, farradays mom, desmonds girlfriends dad, etc. kinda weird no?
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I have a feeling that all of them have a direct historical connection to the Island.
I got the feeling that Jack's grandfather knew something and the shoes thing was not just fate or dumb luck.
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Best episode of the season.
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What happened with Ben and Locke? I know Locke had to die and all but why did Ben save him then kill him? Was it because he said something about the Hawking lady?
:confused:
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Best episode of the season.
really? i dvr'd and have watched it all and didn't think it was all that great. i guess it was good at filling in some gaps and adding to the back story. maybe i'll watch it again. it was hard flip back and forth from bball.
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What happened with Ben and Locke? I know Locke had to die and all but why did Ben save him then kill him? Was it because he said something about the Hawking lady?
:confused:
ANY THEORIES ON THIS?
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What happened with Ben and Locke? I know Locke had to die and all but why did Ben save him then kill him? Was it because he said something about the Hawking lady?
:confused:
ANY THEORIES ON THIS?
yeah, dunno. i thought that ben prolly killed locke once he got all the info (hawking lady) he needed. maybe it's just that ben is supposed to be the one to kill him or that locke wasn't really going to follow through with killing himself and ben has jumped back and forth so many times that he knew this and had to kill locke himself. kinda like in groundhog day where bill murray keeps going back and going on dates with the girl until he learns enough about her to finally hook up w/ her.
either way it is kinda weird that both ben and whitmore both want ben back on the island but seem to be on different sides.
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What happened with Ben and Locke? I know Locke had to die and all but why did Ben save him then kill him? Was it because he said something about the Hawking lady?
:confused:
ANY THEORIES ON THIS?
dunno, but it looked like a lightbulb went off in ben's head when locke said that did it not?
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also, the plane is on the hydra Island! not the main Island!
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Best episode of the season.
really? i dvr'd and have watched it all and didn't think it was all that great. i guess it was good at filling in some gaps and adding to the back story. maybe i'll watch it again. it was hard flip back and forth from bball.
yeah wasn't that great, plus I dunno about them adding more characters to the show.
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I thought it was interesting how Locke's personality completely changed when he left the island. He was passive, quiet and nice just like back in his former life. Couldn't convince anyone to do anything. Just thought it was interesting. Anyone else find this interesting?
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I thought it was interesting how Locke's personality completely changed when he left the island. He was passive, quiet and nice just like back in his former life. Couldn't convince anyone to do anything. Just thought it was interesting. Anyone else find this interesting?
Yeah but I came to expect that since he was such a vag w/ his relationship w/ his dad. On the Island he is a different person and that is why he loves it so much.
My question is does anyone think this is the last we have seen of Walt or will he get back on the Island.
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Yeah but I came to expect that since he was such a vag w/ his relationship w/ his dad. On the Island he is a different person and that is why he loves it so much.
That, and all of that stuff about not being able to die and not being a cripple anymore.
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Ben or Widmore, who's evil?
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Ben or Widmore, who's evil?
It's hard to not say both, but this has definitely become the predominant question. Who should we trust with our Losties and why?
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What happened with Ben and Locke? I know Locke had to die and all but why did Ben save him then kill him? Was it because he said something about the Hawking lady?
:confused:
ANY THEORIES ON THIS?
I was under the impression that Ben didn't know that Richard told Locke that he had to die. Ben wants to be the "leader" but he can't do that if John returns to the island (alive). Once John mentioned Hawking, Ben knew that John could get back to the island without him. Ben needed John to get the others to come back, but couldn't risk John doing that without him. I think the only reason Ben wanted dead John to go back is because he doesn't know or didn't think that John would be alive when they do, Ben merely thought that he (John) had to be on the plane one way or another.
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What happened with Ben and Locke? I know Locke had to die and all but why did Ben save him then kill him? Was it because he said something about the Hawking lady?
:confused:
ANY THEORIES ON THIS?
I was under the impression that Ben didn't know that Richard told Locke that he had to die. Ben wants to be the "leader" but he can't do that if John returns to the island (alive). Once John mentioned Hawking, Ben knew that John could get back to the island without him. Ben needed John to get the others to come back, but couldn't risk John doing that without him. I think the only reason Ben wanted dead John to go back is because he doesn't know or didn't think that John would be alive when they do, Ben merely thought that he (John) had to be on the plane one way or another.
read a nice theory that widmore and ben want the same thing but have different ideas how it should be achieved and that the "War" that widmore spoke of might be with someone that we haven't met yet.
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What happened with Ben and Locke? I know Locke had to die and all but why did Ben save him then kill him? Was it because he said something about the Hawking lady?
:confused:
ANY THEORIES ON THIS?
I was under the impression that Ben didn't know that Richard told Locke that he had to die. Ben wants to be the "leader" but he can't do that if John returns to the island (alive). Once John mentioned Hawking, Ben knew that John could get back to the island without him. Ben needed John to get the others to come back, but couldn't risk John doing that without him. I think the only reason Ben wanted dead John to go back is because he doesn't know or didn't think that John would be alive when they do, Ben merely thought that he (John) had to be on the plane one way or another.
read a nice theory that widmore and ben want the same thing but have different ideas how it should be achieved and that the "War" that widmore spoke of might be with someone that we haven't met yet.
Thats probably a good guess maybe the war is with that new hispanic looking guy don't remember his name.
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What happened with Ben and Locke? I know Locke had to die and all but why did Ben save him then kill him? Was it because he said something about the Hawking lady?
:confused:
ANY THEORIES ON THIS?
I was under the impression that Ben didn't know that Richard told Locke that he had to die. Ben wants to be the "leader" but he can't do that if John returns to the island (alive). Once John mentioned Hawking, Ben knew that John could get back to the island without him. Ben needed John to get the others to come back, but couldn't risk John doing that without him. I think the only reason Ben wanted dead John to go back is because he doesn't know or didn't think that John would be alive when they do, Ben merely thought that he (John) had to be on the plane one way or another.
read a nice theory that widmore and ben want the same thing but have different ideas how it should be achieved and that the "War" that widmore spoke of might be with someone that we haven't met yet.
Good stuff. Finally saw the latest last night. Great season so far.
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Time Loop Theory guy (http://www.timelooptheory.com/the_timeline.html) tweaks/reworks his theory to fit new developments from season 5. Good stuff.
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Have a feeling tonights epi. is going to be ridic. :excited:
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Time Loop Theory guy (http://www.timelooptheory.com/the_timeline.html) tweaks/reworks his theory to fit new developments from season 5. Good stuff.
That is pretty awesome.
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great episode.
:woohoo:
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2 weeks!
:curse:
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2 weeks!
:curse:
r u b n srs? If so this makes me extremely sad.
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2 weeks!
:curse:
r u b n srs? If so this makes me extremely sad.
Wow, it took me a few seconds to figure out what the hell you said, but yes, he is serious. Sorry, I don't text. :cyclist:
Good episode by the way. I am just fracking glad we finally know what year they are in.
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small spoiler for next epi
WHAT'S TO COME
Lost is moving again—going back even further into the past to explore a terrible incident that changed the course of the Island (and its people) forever. When Lost returns in two weeks, the charming and talented young actor Sterling Beaumon (the kid's 14 and he's recording an album) reprises his role as "young Ben" for what will be a four-episode character arc.
Sterling tells us exclusively that the story is "very major, and it's going to change Ben forever." Sterling, as per usual for Lost castmembers, is sworn to secrecy about exactly what happens but he says this very major thing "involves himself and yes, it is a trauma…Before the change Ben's a nice, good kid…and then one second will change his life forever."
According to Sterling, over the course of this arc, "Ben will [come to] know everything about every little bit about the Island. We're not going to learn more about the past with Dharma, we're going to learn more about the past of the Island." Say it with me people: Holler!
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small spoiler for next epi
WHAT'S TO COME
Lost is moving again—going back even further into the past to explore a terrible incident that changed the course of the Island (and its people) forever. When Lost returns in two weeks, the charming and talented young actor Sterling Beaumon (the kid's 14 and he's recording an album) reprises his role as "young Ben" for what will be a four-episode character arc.
Sterling tells us exclusively that the story is "very major, and it's going to change Ben forever." Sterling, as per usual for Lost castmembers, is sworn to secrecy about exactly what happens but he says this very major thing "involves himself and yes, it is a trauma…Before the change Ben's a nice, good kid…and then one second will change his life forever."
According to Sterling, over the course of this arc, "Ben will [come to] know everything about every little bit about the Island. We're not going to learn more about the past with Dharma, we're going to learn more about the past of the Island." Say it with me people: Holler!
Cool.
Love this season so far.
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also very cool take on some stuff about aaron.
http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20251960_4,00.html
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I jizzed in my pants when i saw the statue.
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small spoiler for next epi
WHAT'S TO COME
Lost is moving again—going back even further into the past to explore a terrible incident that changed the course of the Island (and its people) forever. When Lost returns in two weeks, the charming and talented young actor Sterling Beaumon (the kid's 14 and he's recording an album) reprises his role as "young Ben" for what will be a four-episode character arc.
Sterling tells us exclusively that the story is "very major, and it's going to change Ben forever." Sterling, as per usual for Lost castmembers, is sworn to secrecy about exactly what happens but he says this very major thing "involves himself and yes, it is a trauma…Before the change Ben's a nice, good kid…and then one second will change his life forever."
According to Sterling, over the course of this arc, "Ben will [come to] know everything about every little bit about the Island. We're not going to learn more about the past with Dharma, we're going to learn more about the past of the Island." Say it with me people: Holler!
Cool.
Love this season so far.
spoiler-ish question
I take it this will fill in the time between Ben meeting Richard and the Purge? I thought Ben was on board with Richard after they met in the jungle....I didn't think there was a traumatic event that caused Ben to initiate the Purge, only that he had daddy issues.
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small spoiler for next epi
WHAT'S TO COME
Lost is moving again—going back even further into the past to explore a terrible incident that changed the course of the Island (and its people) forever. When Lost returns in two weeks, the charming and talented young actor Sterling Beaumon (the kid's 14 and he's recording an album) reprises his role as "young Ben" for what will be a four-episode character arc.
Sterling tells us exclusively that the story is "very major, and it's going to change Ben forever." Sterling, as per usual for Lost castmembers, is sworn to secrecy about exactly what happens but he says this very major thing "involves himself and yes, it is a trauma…Before the change Ben's a nice, good kid…and then one second will change his life forever."
According to Sterling, over the course of this arc, "Ben will [come to] know everything about every little bit about the Island. We're not going to learn more about the past with Dharma, we're going to learn more about the past of the Island." Say it with me people: Holler!
Cool.
Love this season so far.
spoiler-ish question
I take it this will fill in the time between Ben meeting Richard and the Purge? I thought Ben was on board with Richard after they met in the jungle....I didn't think there was a traumatic event that caused Ben to initiate the Purge, only that he had daddy issues.
Yeah, that makes sense. Will be fun to find out what happened.
And I agree that seeing the statue for a second was very cool.
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small spoiler for next epi
WHAT'S TO COME
Lost is moving again—going back even further into the past to explore a terrible incident that changed the course of the Island (and its people) forever. When Lost returns in two weeks, the charming and talented young actor Sterling Beaumon (the kid's 14 and he's recording an album) reprises his role as "young Ben" for what will be a four-episode character arc.
Sterling tells us exclusively that the story is "very major, and it's going to change Ben forever." Sterling, as per usual for Lost castmembers, is sworn to secrecy about exactly what happens but he says this very major thing "involves himself and yes, it is a trauma…Before the change Ben's a nice, good kid…and then one second will change his life forever."
According to Sterling, over the course of this arc, "Ben will [come to] know everything about every little bit about the Island. We're not going to learn more about the past with Dharma, we're going to learn more about the past of the Island." Say it with me people: Holler!
Cool.
Love this season so far.
spoiler-ish question
I take it this will fill in the time between Ben meeting Richard and the Purge? I thought Ben was on board with Richard after they met in the jungle....I didn't think there was a traumatic event that caused Ben to initiate the Purge, only that he had daddy issues.
that's my guess too.
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This Sterling actor seems like a douchebag.
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small spoiler for next epi
WHAT'S TO COME
Lost is moving again—going back even further into the past to explore a terrible incident that changed the course of the Island (and its people) forever. When Lost returns in two weeks, the charming and talented young actor Sterling Beaumon (the kid's 14 and he's recording an album) reprises his role as "young Ben" for what will be a four-episode character arc.
Sterling tells us exclusively that the story is "very major, and it's going to change Ben forever." Sterling, as per usual for Lost castmembers, is sworn to secrecy about exactly what happens but he says this very major thing "involves himself and yes, it is a trauma…Before the change Ben's a nice, good kid…and then one second will change his life forever."
According to Sterling, over the course of this arc, "Ben will [come to] know everything about every little bit about the Island. We're not going to learn more about the past with Dharma, we're going to learn more about the past of the Island." Say it with me people: Holler!
Cool.
Love this season so far.
spoiler-ish question
I take it this will fill in the time between Ben meeting Richard and the Purge? I thought Ben was on board with Richard after they met in the jungle....I didn't think there was a traumatic event that caused Ben to initiate the Purge, only that he had daddy issues.
Yeah thats what I was thinking, I remember his dad blamed him for his moms death so I wonder what the terrible event is :ohno:, should be good
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this is pretty cool, from 2007
http://darkufo.blogspot.com/2007/06/vozzek69s-theory-of-everything.html
wish that he'd update it.
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Episode from last night = :love:
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I'm a little confused why did sun not flash back to 1977, and the rest did?
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Episode from last night = :love:
wtf I didn't watch because I didn't think it was back on until next week. :curse:
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I'm a little confused why did sun not flash back to 1977, and the rest did?
No idea. Was confusing to me too. Ben, Sun, Lapedus and Locke didn't travel back to 1977.....though this isn't without precedence as locke was sitting there talking to richard on the island (before they all started jumping) and richard and his people didn't jump with Locke. I'm assuming the reason is just because the "island put them where they were needed".
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I'm a little confused why did sun not flash back to 1977, and the rest did?
Not sure either, but was wondering if they actually were in the same time, just a different place. No fracking clue. Good season though.
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didn't care for it. Want lots of locke, christian, and ben from here on out.
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<==== Is wandering if Ben is going to make the jumps start again. Or if he just needs to find the other island.
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<==== Is wandering if Ben is going to make the jumps start again. Or if he just needs to find the other island.
both. I think he figured out, approximately, what "time" it is on the island and is going to the other island to make contact with the "others" and then time travel again and try to course correct.
kind of funny that sawyer and kate helped build the runway that flight landed on when they (and jack) got caught by the others.
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I think that Ben up until this point has known exactly everything that has happened on the island and off. Not sure what his next move will be.
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I think that Ben up until this point has known exactly everything that has happened on the island and off. Not sure what his next move will be.
I think obviously young ben is the key to everything and to what will happen to everyone. just what will he do though? :ohno:
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I think that Ben up until this point has known exactly everything that has happened on the island and off. Not sure what his next move will be.
I kinda thought something like this too for a while. like groundhog day where bill murray keeps doing the day over and over again until he finally does well enough that he gets to sleep with andie mcdowell.
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WTF happened to Faraday? It was nice having someone there that kind of "knew" what the hell was going on.
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WTF happened to Faraday? It was nice having someone there that kind of "knew" what the hell was going on.
I think he's off the island, but still in the "past", so he's f'ing around in 1977. I think we'll see him (and desmond) in the episode on April 1st (entitled "Whatever Happened, Happened".
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Hear is how I think the whole thing will end. Sied (sp?) is going to kill young ben and every thing will snap back to what ever was happening before the original plane crash and no body will know that anything really happened.
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Hear is how I think the whole thing will end. Sied (sp?) is going to kill young ben and every thing will snap back to what ever was happening before the original plane crash and no body will know that anything really happened.
Here's how I think the next episode will turn out: Sayid will try to kill Ben...he'll shoot/injure young ben but Juliet will save Ben's life (though Jack won't help).....this is where Ben's infatuation originally comes from...it's why in a previous episode one of the others (when discussing why ben has an infatuation with juliette) says something like "isn't it obvious? she (meaning juliette) looks just like her". The "her" is, actually, juliette, only the other doesn't know that because all the other has probably seen is a picture and wouldn't really have think that a picture that Ben keeps from his childhood would be the same person (because that would mean juliette would have to be really old to be the same person).
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:ohno:
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:ohno:
Wednesday :runaway: :runaway: :runaway:
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sweet jesus. love sayid.
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Little disappointed. Supposedly they can't change anything, so what was the point. Not sure why they can't, but Farady said so. Where the frack is Faraday!!!!!
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Ben is my fave...so I am sad...
well he and hurley.
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Little disappointed. Supposedly they can't change anything, so what was the point. Not sure why they can't, but Farady said so. Where the frack is Faraday!!!!!
You can't change the past or the future wouldn't exist in the current form. Time has a way of always correcting itself. :cyclist:
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Ben is my fave...so I am sad...
well he and hurley.
don't worry, bro. ben won't/can't die. Hurley sucks, btw. I hate his fatness.
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Ben is my fave...so I am sad...
well he and hurley.
don't worry, bro. ben won't/can't die. Hurley sucks, btw. I hate his fatness.
I :love: his fatness.
:dancin:
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Young Ben was even creepier than old Ben. Glad he's dead.
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Faraday changed something when he talked to desmond while in the past, so that is false that you what ever you do doesn't matter. What do you think who is Faraday's mom and what does she have to do with the island.
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Faraday changed something when he talked to desmond while in the past, so that is false that you what ever you do doesn't matter. What do you think who is Faraday's mom and what does she have to do with the island.
:confused:
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Faraday changed something when he talked to desmond while in the past, so that is false that you what ever you do doesn't matter. What do you think who is Faraday's mom and what does she have to do with the island.
Small stuff that doesn't really matter can obviously be changed. Major things will always happen one way or another. Look at how many Terminators there have been, for crying out loud.
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pretty interesting thoughts on the ben shooting.
o... I Need Him to Want to Do It
So Ben notices this dude stalking Hurley outside Santa Rosa Mental Hospital for several days. Does he get out the high-powered rifle he used to drill holes in Abaddon? Nah. Instead he puts on a suit and flies to South America so that Sayid can take care of it. Seem a little strange and unnecessary? Not if your Benjamin Linus.
Every single solitary thing Ben does has its own unique purpose, and in this case, a multi-purpose. Ben's mention of the man stalking Hurley not only served to bring Sayid back to California for the upcoming Ajira flight, it also reinforced the kill-crazy mental programming that Ben just spent three years driving into Sayid's skull. Ben played on Sayid's loyalty to his friends, saying juuuuuust enough before walking away to know that Sayid would come back to help protect Hugo. In the process, Ben also knew Sayid's killing of that man, and subsequent dishwasher-assisted killing of various other bad guys, would freshen up Sayid's (not-so) self-imposed notion of being a killer... just in case building houses in the Dominican Republic had made him forget about it. On top of this, it would also cause him to despise Ben even more than he did the last time, which is exactly what Ben wanted.
I'll even go as far as to say the guy watching Hurley was one of Ben's own men, put there for this very purpose, sacrificed to get Sayid (and Hurley) to that dockside meeting. Hurley never made it, but the island got him to the plane anyway. The second piece of trouble Ben had was that he pushed Sayid a little too far - he'd caused him to do so much in the way of killing that Sayid angrily walked away from that dock instead of agreeing to go back to the island. Ben overdid it here. He corrected that mistake by hiring Illana to get Sayid on that plane, and in handcuffs to boot. More than anyone, Ben knows Sayid. He knows his weakness with women, and he knows that a little sex and a little MacCuthcheon's whisky would be the best way of getting him on the Ajira flight. Whether or not Illana understands she's working for Ben or truly believes she's working for the family of the dude Sayid killed on the golf course remains to be seen, but if I had to guess I'd pick the latter.
So what do we have? We have Ben sending Sayid all over the world to kill people for three straight years. Did these people really matter? Did their deaths really keep Sayid's friends safe? crap no. I'm even sketchy on them being related to Widmore at all, but if so I'm sure Ben was just playing fun games inside Charles Widmore's head. The deaths of these men meant nothing in the grand scheme of things other to reinforce one thing that I've always said: Sayid Jarrah is an absolute death-magnet.
Then we have Ben reminding Sayid that he's a killer... telling him that he's a killer... over and over, beating it into his skull. We also have Sayid driven to an intense hatred for Ben and a complete mistrust in him by the time he gets on the Ajira airways flight. Add all of this together and what do you get?
Alright, I've built it up enough: Ben wanted Sayid to go back to the past and shoot him. He fine-tuned Sayid into enough of a killing machine and instilled enough hatred in his heart for him so that Ben knew he would shoot even a young child version of himself. Yeah, I know it's crazy. I know it's out there. But if you examine this episode and really delve into why Ben spent so much off-island time honing Sayid into the killing tool he's now become... it makes a lot of sense.
Notice I said 'shoot him' and not 'kill him'. I'm pretty sure young Benjamin Linus will live. But I think Sayid shooting Ben is going to have serious repercussions on the 1977 timeline that might result in big changes to the way things originally would've played out. Maybe Ben getting shot in 1977 will somehow delay or prevent him from joining the hostiles? Maybe the purge will be avoided? I won't pretend to know those answers, but somehow 2007 Ben understands that getting shot in the past will cause ripples through time that will change things in a direction favorable to his master plan. And I'll leave it at that.
One more thing though. If you believe in what I just said above, and if you believe the purge isn't going to happen (at least not in the way it originally occurred), then did Ben really commit genocide? The first time around, did he really kill all those people? Or did he always know, somehow, that once he solved the equation that would result in the end game of LOST, that all the things that happened all those other times would become null and void? In the end, maybe only one song can really be played on the island's record player. And Ben knows which song that is.
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I think Ben knows how everything goes down in the past because he has some reference to the future (either because he's been there, from there, or has information from others who have)....though he has seemed surprised on a few of occassions: (1) when that dude killed his daughter and he said "they changed the rules" (2) after Locke told Ben that he was going to see a woman named Eloise and (3) when Desmond showed up to Eloise's church and said she was Farady's mother. Otherwise, that dude has known pretty much how everything goes down and has encouraged/manipulated people to make sure it goes down the way he's been told or knows it should.
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i don't think that killing young ben kills old ben. i do maybe think that since young ben was alive and on the island that maybe that's why ben didn't go to the island when the plane crashed and ended up somewhere else. maybe now that young ben is dead, old ben will be allowed on the island. duno't know, that's my theory though. also agree w/ zacker that ben pretty much seems to know everything that's gonna happen.
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also, why do so many characters seem to have father issues? ben, jack, sayid, locke, sun, penny's dad is whitmore, we hear of faradays mom but not his dad, probably more too but seriously... kind of weird, no?
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Young Ben ain't dead.
The Island will self correct.
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Yeah, Ben's alive. He's not the first person on that island to survive being shot and left for dead.
And Sayid just sent him on his path of being awesomely evil.
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Finally got to watch the latest episode, pretty good stuff.
Also someone put the time loop theory to youtube (http://www.youtube.com/user/LostQuestionndAnswer) with some additional video stuff; haven't even been able to watch it all yet.
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Finally got to watch the latest episode, pretty good stuff.
Also someone put the time loop theory to youtube (http://www.youtube.com/user/LostQuestionndAnswer) with some additional video stuff; haven't even been able to watch it all yet.
Just watched the youtube, pretty amazing and makes a lot of sense. I still don't understand most of it, but it made sense.
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I lost control of my will power and read a spoiler from the finale, apparently.
Whoa, d00ds. It'll be like time swirled around and plugged you in the a-hole.
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I lost control of my will power and read a spoiler from the finale, apparently.
Whoa, d00ds. It'll be like time swirled around and plugged you in the a-hole.
pm
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Holy shat!
:woohoo:
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the fracking temple of doom. i hope they come up with something better than him having to drink some jacob's blood or something.
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:ohno:
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I lost control of my will power and read a spoiler from the finale, apparently.
Whoa, d00ds. It'll be like time swirled around and plugged you in the a-hole.
pm
QFT, me too please. :pray:
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why in the original episode where young ben is shot does it appear he is shot through the heart and now in this episode it is far right on his body. wtf? already pissed off at this haven't finished the episode yet.
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Thought it was kind of slow. Prolly the worst this season so far. Hopefully next week keeps the awesomeness of this season going.
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why in the original episode where young ben is shot does it appear he is shot through the heart and now in this episode it is far right on his body. wtf? already pissed off at this haven't finished the episode yet.
The incident is seen through different perspectives. Sayid thought he shot him through the heart, Jin saw it as on his other side, and the wound is through his abdomen when Kate puts him in the van.
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Thought it was kind of slow. Prolly the worst this season so far. Hopefully next week keeps the awesomeness of this season going.
you are stupid.
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why in the original episode where young ben is shot does it appear he is shot through the heart and now in this episode it is far right on his body. wtf? already pissed off at this haven't finished the episode yet.
The incident is seen through different perspectives. Sayid thought he shot him through the heart, Jin saw it as on his other side, and the wound is through his abdomen when Kate puts him in the van.
gmafb.
lost is becoming a giant cock tease mixed with the never ending change the story whenever we feel like it show.
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why in the original episode where young ben is shot does it appear he is shot through the heart and now in this episode it is far right on his body. wtf? already pissed off at this haven't finished the episode yet.
The incident is seen through different perspectives. Sayid thought he shot him through the heart, Jin saw it as on his other side, and the wound is through his abdomen when Kate puts him in the van.
gmafb.
lost is becoming a giant cock tease mixed with the never ending change the story whenever we feel like it show.
You're just figuring this out?
Actually, things are coming together in many ways.
Solid episode this week. The convos between Hurly and Miles were great. Really like Miles.
Wild how Locke-like Jack was in this one. And the fact that its looking like by not helping Ben he contributed to Ben turning into Ben instead of the other way around.
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why in the original episode where young ben is shot does it appear he is shot through the heart and now in this episode it is far right on his body. wtf? already pissed off at this haven't finished the episode yet.
The incident is seen through different perspectives. Sayid thought he shot him through the heart, Jin saw it as on his other side, and the wound is through his abdomen when Kate puts him in the van.
gmafb.
lost is becoming a giant cock tease mixed with the never ending change the story whenever we feel like it show.
You're just figuring this out?
Actually, things are coming together in many ways.
Solid episode this week. The convos between Hurly and Miles were great. Really like Miles.
Wild how Locke-like Jack was in this one. And the fact that its looking like by not helping Ben he contributed to Ben turning into Ben instead of the other way around.
No just all of the time change is pissing me off and this last episode was pretty :sleep: and didn't answer anymore ?s
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why in the original episode where young ben is shot does it appear he is shot through the heart and now in this episode it is far right on his body. wtf? already pissed off at this haven't finished the episode yet.
The incident is seen through different perspectives. Sayid thought he shot him through the heart, Jin saw it as on his other side, and the wound is through his abdomen when Kate puts him in the van.
gmafb.
lost is becoming a giant cock tease mixed with the never ending change the story whenever we feel like it show.
You're just figuring this out?
Actually, things are coming together in many ways.
Solid episode this week. The convos between Hurly and Miles were great. Really like Miles.
Wild how Locke-like Jack was in this one. And the fact that its looking like by not helping Ben he contributed to Ben turning into Ben instead of the other way around.
No just all of the time change is pissing me off and this last episode was pretty :sleep: and didn't answer anymore ?s
are you kidding? It explains how ben gets to be ben!!!
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why in the original episode where young ben is shot does it appear he is shot through the heart and now in this episode it is far right on his body. wtf? already pissed off at this haven't finished the episode yet.
The incident is seen through different perspectives. Sayid thought he shot him through the heart, Jin saw it as on his other side, and the wound is through his abdomen when Kate puts him in the van.
gmafb.
lost is becoming a giant cock tease mixed with the never ending change the story whenever we feel like it show.
You're just figuring this out?
Actually, things are coming together in many ways.
Solid episode this week. The convos between Hurly and Miles were great. Really like Miles.
Wild how Locke-like Jack was in this one. And the fact that its looking like by not helping Ben he contributed to Ben turning into Ben instead of the other way around.
No just all of the time change is pissing me off and this last episode was pretty :sleep: and didn't answer anymore ?s
are you kidding? It explains how ben gets to be ben!!!
Yeah, that was kind of a big deal.
I think yoga is being overly influenced by the Kate flashbacks, which were pretty meh, but some other pretty cool stuff went on in the episode.
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why in the original episode where young ben is shot does it appear he is shot through the heart and now in this episode it is far right on his body. wtf? already pissed off at this haven't finished the episode yet.
The incident is seen through different perspectives. Sayid thought he shot him through the heart, Jin saw it as on his other side, and the wound is through his abdomen when Kate puts him in the van.
gmafb.
lost is becoming a giant cock tease mixed with the never ending change the story whenever we feel like it show.
Stay the course Yoga. It will be worth it in the end. I had to have this conversation with my wife after the last episode. She was on her laptop the whole time, and she wonders why none of it makes sense to her!! :curse:
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why in the original episode where young ben is shot does it appear he is shot through the heart and now in this episode it is far right on his body. wtf? already pissed off at this haven't finished the episode yet.
The incident is seen through different perspectives. Sayid thought he shot him through the heart, Jin saw it as on his other side, and the wound is through his abdomen when Kate puts him in the van.
gmafb.
lost is becoming a giant cock tease mixed with the never ending change the story whenever we feel like it show.
Stay the course Yoga. It will be worth it in the end. I had to have this conversation with my wife after the last episode. She was on her laptop the whole time, and she wonders why none of it makes sense to her!! :curse:
I know I probably pay attention to much, my problem is I want all of the answers and I want them now. :-[
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We'll get answers.....when they made a final end date of the series, that gave them a timeline to make sure and tie up all the loose ends.
The time stuff hurts my head, but I love it.
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Thought it was kind of slow. Prolly the worst this season so far. Hopefully next week keeps the awesomeness of this season going.
you are stupid.
:'(
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It let him live.
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It let him live.
kind of anti-climatic episode, but I enjoyed it (even without kate). next week's episode..... :runaway:......who's the guy in the body bag???
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ben's dad. He is about to throw down and kill off the camp.
edit: I find it a bit odd that he can't kill in front of a baby, yet killing every one you lived with the last couple years and placing them in a mass grave is A-OK! :rofl:
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one of the best epi's ever?
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one of the best epi's ever?
thats what I was thinking, last week left me all :angry: gmafb lost. and then what does it do this week totally redeem itself. :dancin: loved all of the interaction between ben and locke, they should definitly keep that up.
now though there are 80 different story lines going though. It looks like things could come in place very shortly. :ohno:
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How are Ben, Locke and Sun going to get to 1977? And if Ben does get to 1977 and meets himself as a kid will his head explode or something. :dunno:
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How are Ben, Locke and Sun going to get to 1977? And if Ben does get to 1977 and meets himself as a kid will his head explode or something. :dunno:
great questions, :dunno: should be very interesting to see how the rest of the season shakes out.
obv. locke will probably be the one that will get them back but I am wondering what is going to happen on the looking glass island also.
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was very interesting seeing locke take control that one moment cracked me up between ben, sun, and locke. something like"Ben's got something he needs to do first, Isn't that right Ben"-locke "Yeah"-Ben "Well you better get to it then shouldn't you."-locke.
will be v. interesting also to see what transpires between locke and the island and locke and ben.
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One of the best. Ben having no idea what is going on was fantastic.
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How are Ben, Locke and Sun going to get to 1977? And if Ben does get to 1977 and meets himself as a kid will his head explode or something. :dunno:
i don't think it'll let locke go since he is there already. who knows? also kinda weird that ben, richard and a couple of other guys always have man purses w/ them all the time. i mean wtf is in them bags anyway ya know??? :confused:
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One of the best. Ben having no idea what is going on was fantastic.
Do you think that is really the case? I think he was lying when he said he had no idea Jack, Kate, etc... were apart of the Dharma Initiative? I was way off on my timeline when he went after Penny. I thought it was in the past. At least now we know who gave Ben that beating. This week better than last, but next week :dancin: I hope they don't kill off Miles, he is one of my faves. Where the frank is Faraday?
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One of the best. Ben having no idea what is going on was fantastic.
Do you think that is really the case? I think he was lying when he said he had no idea Jack, Kate, etc... were apart of the Dharma Initiative? I was way off on my timeline when he went after Penny. I thought it was in the past. At least now we know who gave Ben that beating. This week better than last, but next week :dancin: I hope they don't kill off Miles, he is one of my faves. Where the frank is Faraday?
ben is by far my favorite character because I never know when he's lyng...even when he's lying. he tells locke that he believed he'd come back to life...then tells sun that he's surprised that locke is back...one of those is a lie, but I have no idea which one...he appears to be asking locke a bunch of questions like he doesn't know...but does he really know but just wants to give the impression he doesn't?
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Ben does not know what's happening.
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Ben does not know what's happening.
Neither does Stupid Fitz :billypopcorn:
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That ain't Locke...
Locke is dead and is Christian Shephard.
We are seeing some Scooby Doo action going on here.
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That ain't Locke...
Locke is dead and is Christian Shephard.
We are seeing some Scooby Doo action going on here.
1 dead dude that was in a coffin on the first plane crash morphing into the body of the dude in a coffin for the second plane crash and coming back to life? :confused:
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Locke = the smoke monster
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Locke = the smoke monster
i hope not, that would be tacky/cheap by the writers.
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Locke = the smoke monster
i hope not, that would be tacky/cheap by the writers.
i think a lot of people think this. locke had to go get a rope for ben and disappears and then the smoke monster appears and then when the smoke monster disappears alex appears and then when alex disappears locke appears. you never saw two of them at the same time ya know.
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Locke = the smoke monster
i hope not, that would be tacky/cheap by the writers.
i think a lot of people think this. locke had to go get a rope for ben and disappears and then the smoke monster appears and then when the smoke monster disappears alex appears and then when alex disappears locke appears. you never saw two of them at the same time ya know.
:runaway:
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"That douche is my father."
Could see it coming a mile away.
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aww man, you could of said something like...
"I could of seen that from miles away. 8-) LOL
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This show is getting pretty lame. The entire episode was pretty much finding out about Miles (this was pretty much leaked months ago) and Faraday (um, woopie?). The first few season had such a sense of exploration. Remember the map that Radzinsky made? I sploodged myself when I saw that. I really don't care to see Radzinsky freak out a whole episode because Sayid saw the model.
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but they dropped another reference to the statue...
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This show is getting pretty lame. The entire episode was pretty much finding out about Miles (this was pretty much leaked months ago) and Faraday (um, woopie?). The first few season had such a sense of exploration. Remember the map that Radzinsky made? I sploodged myself when I saw that. I really don't care to see Radzinsky freak out a whole episode because Sayid saw the model.
Maybe if you retards would stop reading super secret blogs which leak vital information months beforehand you could genuinely enjoy the show like I do. Sheesh. :rolleyes:
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This show is getting pretty lame. The entire episode was pretty much finding out about Miles (this was pretty much leaked months ago) and Faraday (um, woopie?). The first few season had such a sense of exploration. Remember the map that Radzinsky made? I sploodged myself when I saw that. I really don't care to see Radzinsky freak out a whole episode because Sayid saw the model.
Maybe if you retards would stop reading super secret blogs which leak vital information months beforehand you could genuinely enjoy the show like I do. Sheesh. :rolleyes:
yeah, it was good.
who the heck were the people trying to get miles to join them instead of going to the island :confused: :ohno:
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This show is getting pretty lame. The entire episode was pretty much finding out about Miles (this was pretty much leaked months ago) and Faraday (um, woopie?). The first few season had such a sense of exploration. Remember the map that Radzinsky made? I sploodged myself when I saw that. I really don't care to see Radzinsky freak out a whole episode because Sayid saw the model.
Maybe if you retards would stop reading super secret blogs which leak vital information months beforehand you could genuinely enjoy the show like I do. Sheesh. :rolleyes:
yeah, it was good.
who the heck were the people trying to get miles to join them instead of going to the island :confused: :ohno:
:ohno: I know right? :ohno: :confused: I think they are they guys who end up destroying the whole island.
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This show is getting pretty lame. The entire episode was pretty much finding out about Miles (this was pretty much leaked months ago) and Faraday (um, woopie?). The first few season had such a sense of exploration. Remember the map that Radzinsky made? I sploodged myself when I saw that. I really don't care to see Radzinsky freak out a whole episode because Sayid saw the model.
Maybe if you retards would stop reading super secret blogs which leak vital information months beforehand you could genuinely enjoy the show like I do. Sheesh. :rolleyes:
yeah, it was good.
who the heck were the people trying to get miles to join them instead of going to the island :confused: :ohno:
:ohno: I know right? :ohno: :confused: I think they are they guys who end up destroying the whole island.
I think they are Dharma.
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Another good episode IMO. I liked the focus on Miles who is quickly becoming one of my favorites. Yeah, as soon as the flashbacks started the referencing of his father you could see it coming, but the scenes with Miles and Hurley continue to be hilarious. And Faraday coming in at the end was pretty cool. Another great "newer" character.
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but the scenes with Miles and Hurley continue to be hilarious.
very kevin smithy
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This show is getting pretty lame. The entire episode was pretty much finding out about Miles (this was pretty much leaked months ago) and Faraday (um, woopie?). The first few season had such a sense of exploration. Remember the map that Radzinsky made? I sploodged myself when I saw that. I really don't care to see Radzinsky freak out a whole episode because Sayid saw the model.
Maybe if you retards would stop reading super secret blogs which leak vital information months beforehand you could genuinely enjoy the show like I do. Sheesh. :rolleyes:
It was even heavily hinted at in the preview for the episode. Maybe you're the retard one for not putting 2 and 2 together.
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goddammit.
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goddammit.
think faraday is gone for good?
also was kindof shocked that widdmore was faradays son and that widdmore and eloise were bangin.
next week should be very good. :scarymovie:
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goddammit.
think faraday is gone for good?
also was kindof shocked that widdmore was faradays son and that widdmore and eloise were bangin.
next week should be very good. :scarymovie:
:confused:
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interesting. can jack Change things? or did all this happen either way?
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interesting. can jack Change things? or did all this happen either way?
how mind f*cked do you think you'd be if you were jack. you know what happens in the future (i.e. the "incident") but you don't know exactly how it happens...so if you have two options (i.e. follow daniel's notebook or not follow daniel's notebook) how the hell do you decide between the two and how the hell would you know whether whatever you decide was the choice that you made all along to cause the "incident"...and thus causing a person to push a button..causing desmond not to push it...causing the plane to crash.....
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interesting. can jack Change things? or did all this happen either way?
how mind f*cked do you think you'd be if you were jack. you know what happens in the future (i.e. the "incident") but you don't know exactly how it happens...so if you have two options (i.e. follow daniel's notebook or not follow daniel's notebook) how the hell do you decide between the two and how the hell would you know whether whatever you decide was the choice that you made all along to cause the "incident"...and thus causing a person to push a button..causing desmond not to push it...causing the plane to crash.....
this is the realm of weirdness that I think we're getting into.
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interesting. can jack Change things? or did all this happen either way?
how mind f*cked do you think you'd be if you were jack. you know what happens in the future (i.e. the "incident") but you don't know exactly how it happens...so if you have two options (i.e. follow daniel's notebook or not follow daniel's notebook) how the hell do you decide between the two and how the hell would you know whether whatever you decide was the choice that you made all along to cause the "incident"...and thus causing a person to push a button..causing desmond not to push it...causing the plane to crash.....
this is the realm of weirdness that I think we're getting into.
also, think about this...so let's say that jack stops the incident from happening....so the button never has to be pushed...desmond doesn't miss pushing the button and the plane never crashes.......or would it? from jack's experience, that has already happened. If the incident never happens then Chang never has to send his wife and baby miles away (or at least they could have returned)...but grown up Miles not having his father still happens...atleast from Miles' life experience.
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All I'm saying is that if this mother fracker ends next year with a plane landing safely and all these frackers just get off and go about their business, I am going to be :mad:.
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goddammit.
think faraday is gone for good?
also was kindof shocked that widdmore was faradays son and that widdmore and eloise were bangin.
next week should be very good. :scarymovie:
:confused:
whoops faraday was widdmores son
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All I'm saying is that if this mother fracker ends next year with a plane landing safely and all these frackers just get off and go about their business, I am going to be :mad:.
Theres is no plausible way that they can end the show and justify the amount of time I have wasted watching it.
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Man I hate this show. I should have waited till the season was over and just watch them all.
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Or will the hostiles "fix" Faraday like they did young Ben?
Definately getting interesting. I mean Faraday goes back in time to be shot by his own mother. Wild stuff there. And Faraday's mom is turning out to be worse the Ben.
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Or will the hostiles "fix" Faraday like they did young Ben?
Definately getting interesting. I mean Faraday goes back in time to be shot by his own mother. Wild stuff there. And Faraday's mom is turning out to be worse the Ben.
What I'm confused about (among other things) is what purpose faraday dying (or rather Eloise letting/putting him on a path to die) served? Do Eloise/Widmore need faraday to die because that triggers other events which lead to a "greater good" outcome (and is that outcome any different than what we've already seen/know about...i.e. the incident, the purge, flight 815 crashing)? because if "whatever happened, happened" then the only unknowns are how things happened not what happened. If nothing can be changed, then I see this show shaping up kind of like the movie Momento, where the movie "starts" in the middle of the story and "ends" right before the middle of the story happens.
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I think that Faraday's mother and Widmore don't want Farday to "fix" the incident because if it never happens then the island does not get it's "powers?" if that is what you would call it. In 1977 they are still building the Orchid so the ability to move the island is not there yet.
Oh, hell I don't know what is going on here.
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the thing that surprises me the most recently is that miles is allowed to be on the island when little miles is there. there are two freaking identical humans on the island just at different ages. i had always thought that the island or whatever just wouldn't allow this. kinda like there are two separate worlds and you can't have two of you in the same one at the same time. that is the part that just kind of surprises me recently i guess. i guess it's possible that there could still be a bunch more faradays running around ya know. who's to say that the faraday we follow through the show is the only faraday? technically he could keep going back and then get older then go back...then get older then go back...there could technically be like 20 faradays on that island right now alone. also, what would happen to adult miles if little miles died? also...what would happen if old miles dies and then little miles grows up? does he die at the same age too? like is he just walking down the street and then boom...dead.
does anything i wrote make any sense :confused:
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interesting. can jack Change things? or did all this happen either way?
how mind f*cked do you think you'd be if you were jack. you know what happens in the future (i.e. the "incident") but you don't know exactly how it happens...so if you have two options (i.e. follow daniel's notebook or not follow daniel's notebook) how the hell do you decide between the two and how the hell would you know whether whatever you decide was the choice that you made all along to cause the "incident"...and thus causing a person to push a button..causing desmond not to push it...causing the plane to crash.....
this is the realm of weirdness that I think we're getting into.
also, think about this...so let's say that jack stops the incident from happening....so the button never has to be pushed...desmond doesn't miss pushing the button and the plane never crashes.......or would it? from jack's experience, that has already happened. If the incident never happens then Chang never has to send his wife and baby miles away (or at least they could have returned)...but grown up Miles not having his father still happens...atleast from Miles' life experience.
Last night's episode was titled the Variable. Daniel talks about how they were the variable that can change things. So if he's correct, then yes, they can change the course of history. The question then turns to, if they negate the plane from every crashing, what happens to them on the island?
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the thing that surprises me the most recently is that miles is allowed to be on the island when little miles is there. there are two freaking identical humans on the island just at different ages. i had always thought that the island or whatever just wouldn't allow this. kinda like there are two separate worlds and you can't have two of you in the same one at the same time. that is the part that just kind of surprises me recently i guess. i guess it's possible that there could still be a bunch more faradays running around ya know. who's to say that the faraday we follow through the show is the only faraday? technically he could keep going back and then get older then go back...then get older then go back...there could technically be like 20 faradays on that island right now alone. also, what would happen to adult miles if little miles died? also...what would happen if old miles dies and then little miles grows up? does he die at the same age too? like is he just walking down the street and then boom...dead.
does anything i wrote make any sense :confused:
Makes sense to me!
I don't think most of the people who crashed and survived would want things to change. Sun got a baby, Sawyer doesn't go to jail, same with Kate, Hugo...don't know if he would want to continue to be crazy outside of the island. John thinks he is god or something. Seems like Jack might be the only one that would want to change the course but then again why would he want to do that, he didn't have much going for him either.
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Heard tonight's epi will be all about Richard Alpert. Any truth to this? If so I'm kind of excited.
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Heard tonight's epi will be all about Richard Alpert. Any truth to this? If so I'm kind of excited.
That's what I heard. I want to see if he was really on the Black Rock.
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Heard tonight's epi will be all about Richard Alpert. Any truth to this? If so I'm kind of excited.
That's what I heard. I want to see if he was really on the Black Rock.
my money's on way before black rock.
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OMFG
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I like John's swagger.
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Locke is acting mighty BA of late.
Kate's getting on my nerves. dirty ho bag.
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weak discussion this week fellas.
couple thoughts/questions.
Locke and everybody else that is not back in the 70's are they in the past still or are they in the present why did Locke show up and then dissapear(I know the Island told him too still confusing)
Whats going to happen between Alpert, Ben, Locke, and Jacob? :ohno:
Anyone notice that when one of the "others" came over to tell Alpert that Locke was hear he was working on a ship in a bottle that looked like the pearl(a sign maybe).
Also the hydrogen bomb and The Love Triangle that are in the sub together. Damn the finale should be terrific.
Two people are going to die in a cave this I am 99.9% sure of.
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Why Doesn't Alpert Age? He looks the same in 1977 as he did in the present. My guess is that he is Jacob but doesn't want anyone to really know that because that would put his life in jeopardy.
What did Ben and Richard do? They set it up so John was going to be the leader, but then Ben said something like "Looks like John is going to be more trouble than we thought." Is that what he said? Anyway what did he mean by that?
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Why Doesn't Alpert Age? He looks the same in 1977 as he did in the present. My guess is that he is Jacob but doesn't want anyone to really know that because that would put his life in jeopardy.
I think Alpert was killed/died at one time and was brought back to life by the island. Which probably means he can't be killed again like Jacks dad (christian), maybe Locke, and probably Jacob.
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Are you talking about the Black Pearl? That was the first thing that came to mind. I think Richard, Jacob, Locke, and Christian are all different types of entities. I see Richard and Jack as being mere humans that have been deeply affected by the island. I see Christian as merely a vessel for Jacob (or whatever). As for what Jacob is, I have absolutely no idea.
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I think the "I'm going to kill Jacob" thing is a ruse. Why would he tell ben that? Or Jacob is stuck and Jumping through time like locke was and that's why you can't just go and see him but he has to see you so to speak.
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So is Clair still on the island? Didn't she go somewhere with Christian? What's up with that? Will we see her again? Is it a coincidence that Richard looks kind of like Jeff Probst from Survivor? Maybe the finale will be that this is just a huge reality show and everything was staged. Jack, Kate, Hugo, Sied didn't know about it. Probably not. O.K. they don't look that much alike but it was one of the first things I thought of when I saw him.
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So is Clair still on the island? Didn't she go somewhere with Christian? What's up with that? Will we see her again? Is it a coincidence that Richard looks kind of like Jeff Probst from Survivor? Maybe the finale will be that this is just a huge reality show and everything was staged. Jack, Kate, Hugo, Sied didn't know about it. Probably not. O.K. they don't look that much alike but it was one of the first things I thought of when I saw him.
Yes, yes. I think she was drawn to her father and decided to go with him I think we will see her again I don't think they can totally write her off they will atleast have a small scene w/ her kindof like they did w/ Walt.
Luckily we have one more year of epi's.
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Think about this one. The bomb plan works and the plane never crashes. Therefore, nobody ever travels back in time, and the bomb plan is never put into action. Does this mean the plane ends up crashing again? and the whole thing is just a continuous loop?
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Think about this one. The bomb plan works and the plane never crashes. Therefore, nobody ever travels back in time, and the bomb plan is never put into action. Does this mean the plane ends up crashing again? and the whole thing is just a continuous loop?
Alternate timelines, dood.
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Are you talking about the Black Pearl? That was the first thing that came to mind.
Like from Pirates of the Caribbean? I think you mean the Black Rock. :cyclist:
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Do any of you guys read Wired? This month's magazine was put together by JJ Abrams. It has all kinds of hidden puzzles and stuff in it. Kinda interesting. Sorry if this was discussed in this thread (to lazy to check and see).
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Only 18 epi's left.
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Do any of you guys read Wired? This month's magazine was put together by JJ Abrams. It has all kinds of hidden puzzles and stuff in it. Kinda interesting. Sorry if this was discussed in this thread (to lazy to check and see).
the mag was an easter egg in one of the latest epi's. had the fans buzzing.
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is jack ever right about anything? he's one complete f up after f up.*
*this opinion is subject to change once f'ing 2010 rolls around and we find out what that bomb did....christ I can't wait that long.
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is jack ever right about anything? he's one complete f up after f up.*
*this opinion is subject to change once f'ing 2010 rolls around and we find out what that bomb did....christ I can't wait that long.
No. He just saved Jacob.
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Let's get some serious discussion going here.
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is jack ever right about anything? he's one complete f up after f up.*
*this opinion is subject to change once f'ing 2010 rolls around and we find out what that bomb did....christ I can't wait that long.
No. He just saved Jacob.
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Let's get some serious discussion going here.
If Jack stopped the incident then the present where Jacob is killed never happens.
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Someone plz explain what happened the last 5 min. I can't figure it out. :confused:
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Let's get some serious discussion going here.
If Jack stopped the incident then the present where Jacob is killed never happens.
i'm curious how they'll write/show what happens if you can actually change things.
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Someone plz explain what happened the last 5 min. I can't figure it out. :confused:
Locke is dead....that one guy who was sitting with Jacob on the beach at the beginning, like, somehow got into Locke's body (how the hell I have no idea...they mentioned getting into the "loop") in order to kill Jacob. That dude on the beach with Jacob said something like "do you know how bad I want to kill you right now?" at the beginning of the 1st hour.
i have no idea what Jacob meant when he said "coming" before "Locke" kicked him into the fire.
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Someone plz explain what happened the last 5 min. I can't figure it out. :confused:
So they guy from the beginning of the episode finally found a way to get Jacob killed and did it. But as Jacob died he let out a big eff you and told the guy that he basically had set it up so that none of it had ever happened. Jack and Co blowing the nuke assured that none of them had ever been there making it impossible to be where Ben and John were to kill Jacob. That is why Jacob was throughout the episode guiding everyone's path. He was setting up an out.
Some of it's shaky, but that is what I get out of it. Still need to find out who the other guy is.
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Yeah I got that the dude at the beginning was "Locke" and that he finally found the loophole or whatever to kill Jacob. But:
1. Why did he want to kill Jacob?
2. How did he look like Locke when Locke's body was lying on the beach dead?
I guess we'll find out in just 8 short months. :angry:
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Yeah I got that the dude at the beginning was "Locke" and that he finally found the loophole or whatever to kill Jacob. But:
1. Why did he want to kill Jacob?
2. How did he look like Locke when Locke's body was lying on the beach dead?
I guess we'll find out in just 8 short months. :angry:
Remember that he did have Locke's memories too from some of his conversations with Ben like about the hatch door. I do wish they would explain the blood lust toward Jacob and more or less tell us who he is. But I think he got out of the dying part of it with what happened at the swan.
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in the beginning their conversation sounded something like discussing an experiment where both knew how it was going to "end"....but Jacob believed things can be changed or rather that eventually you keep moving towards not the "end" (he referrred to it as progress).....then that mystery dude said something like "one day we'll/i'll find a loophole".
I get the impression that the this is a constant time loop that has happened many times over with the same/similar results. I dunno.
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The beginning scene reminded me of Greek mythology stories of the Gods plotting and controlling humans.
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I get the impression that the this is a constant time loop that has happened many times over with the same/similar results. I dunno.
I kinda thought something like this too for a while. like groundhog day where bill murray keeps doing the day over and over again until he finally does well enough that he gets to sleep with andie mcdowell.
jacob is andie mcdowell, the other guy is bill murray and instead of hooking up with her he wants to kill him.
not sure who camera guy is-maybe jack. little kid who falls from the tree and never thanks bill murray is def sayid. have to think a little more about some of the others.
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Here are my first thouhts right after last nights show ended.
Jacob = God
Other dood on island = satin before banishment to hell
Island = eden
Richard = Jesus? or a profit of some sort.
Faraday= profit
People on the island from plane crash = lost souls
Jacob has worked to bring these people to him to get them to believe. Satin has been trying to get in the way of this happening.
These are just some of my thoughts haven't really put much thought into it.
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weird thing is that now who gives a frank about anyone other than Jacob and the other dude. It seems that all of the other seasons were fluff. Still wondering about Richard. Is he a real d00d or just one of the other d00dz "guiding" people for their awesome game of "life".
Also, where does Dez fit in all of this?
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I don't know neccessarily if it is God and Satan. But they are some sort of Deities.
They are playing a chess match against eachother using people to manipulate an outcome. The dark one acts like the outcome is inevitable, Jacob believes that eventually free will can change the outcome.
IMO the bomb going off did not happen before and now that it did it will change things some how.
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1. Why did he want to kill Jacob?
2. How did he look like Locke when Locke's body was lying on the beach dead?
I guess we'll find out in just 8 short months. :angry:
I think when he killed Jacob he was essentially killing what the Island currently was. I think he will now be in charge of the island unless whatever Jack did changed everything. And how he looked like Locke and had his memory :dunno:
i have no idea what Jacob meant when he said "coming" before "Locke" kicked him into the fire.
I think he said "there coming" I don't know if he meant the group of the others and the "good guy group" or maybe something else.
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Also, who thinks the bomb was the incident? I think that the bomb didn't go off before and will change things. but me and a coworker were arguing about that.
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1. Why did he want to kill Jacob?
2. How did he look like Locke when Locke's body was lying on the beach dead?
I guess we'll find out in just 8 short months. :angry:
I think when he killed Jacob he was essentially killing what the Island currently was. I think he will now be in charge of the island unless whatever Jack did changed everything. And how he looked like Locke and had his memory :dunno:
i have no idea what Jacob meant when he said "coming" before "Locke" kicked him into the fire.
I think he said "there coming" I don't know if he meant the group of the others and the "good guy group" or maybe something else.
I immediately thought of Jack when he said that.
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Did anyone get the translation to the answer of "What lies in the shadow of the statue"?
Edit: never mind...found it.
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Did anyone get the translation to the answer of "What lies in the shadow of the statue"?
I wish tried googling it last night but to avail :frown:
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Edit: never mind...found it.
well :users:
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Edit: never mind...found it.
well :users:
my bad. It is "He who will save us all."
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Well, see ya later LOST thread. I'll bump you in 8 months.
Miss you already. :-[
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Here are my first thouhts right after last nights show ended.
Jacob = God
Other dood on island = satin before banishment to hell
Island = eden
Richard = Jesus? or a profit of some sort.
Faraday= profit
People on the island from plane crash = lost souls
Jacob has worked to bring these people to him to get them to believe. Satin has been trying to get in the way of this happening.
These are just some of my thoughts haven't really put much thought into it.
I was thinking the same thing, but Jacob=Jesus. The ending pretty much nailed that in. I'm guessing he will be resurrected and help the losties get everything all happy again.
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anyone notice at the beginning of the epi. jacob was wearing white and the other guy was wearing black.
I think the other dood(whoever killed Jacob) and Ben are going to rule the island but whats going to happen with everyone that is in the present and everyone in the '70s. Anyone else think Widdmore will come back into the picture and play a bigger role?
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yeah, there's a lot of black/white symbolism throughout the show. pretty good discussion on phog about this episode and lost in general.
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=172&f=2488&t=4327442
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Quite a season finale.
Will be interesting to see the resolution of this in the final season.
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I think there are 2 scenarios that could play out: (1) we are just watching what always happened....this is the incident as it has been previously alluded to throughout the show....basically the "past" or rather the time period between 1977 - 2007 does not change OR (2) we just watched something different...which will/could lead to a change in events from 1977 forward with alternate timelines/events.
I think (2) is entirely too messy. You'd get into all the changed events being the sole focus not the characters. It would cause too many questions to be asked and too little time to answer them (not that every question has to be answered, but some fundamental "truths" would have to be in order to provide some focus to the show).
Scenario (1) would effectively provide the writers more ability to focus on character development/resolution while at the same time providing mystery/suspense/drama. They could easily transport (due to the bomb detonating and the losties being catapulted through time due to the energy release) to 2007 where they meet up with everyone and then work towards their own final destiny. That storyline still provides mystery and intrigue (who is Mr. X, who is really "good" and "bad", etc.), but wouldn't have to focus on time travel quantum physics, alternate timelines, etc.
I suppose they could possilbe use a variance of both (1) and (2), similar to what Desmond experienced. That would be, imo, the absolute most difficult thing to accomplish for the writers. Essentially, those Losties near the incident would be able to mentally travel "back" in time (at least in their personal expereince of time) to 2004 right before/after the plane crash. They would all be their own "constants". The ending scene of the finale (which was the opening scene of season 1 episode 1 where jack wakes up in a jungle after the crash) coupled with the change in how the LOST showed up on the screen (it was always white letters with a black background, now it was for the first time black letters with a white background) kind of seem to indicate a they might go that direction.
p.s. I think about this way too much.
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So how does everyone want Lost to end?
What would piss you off the most in the final season and/or ending?
Do you want all of the questions answered or an ending that still leaves you wondering?
Movie after the last season?
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I think the only thing that will piss me off is if it ends like st. Elsewhere or something where all of that didn't happen and was just the imagination of some autistic kid. That or if it was just some dream of one of the characters or something.
Also, if it turns out that it's just two deities playing some game of chess but with human pawns, that will kind of suck.
Don't need all the questions answered. I read somewhere in an interview with one of the writers/producers who said that he kind of laughed at all the "questions" about LOST and referenced how everyone was OK with the "force" in Star Wars based of Obi Won's simple explanation the A New Hope.
No movie.
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The "it was just a dream" would piss me off the most.
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The bomb was not the incident. Juliet was not supposed to be there. She threw things off.
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Anyone know what the tapestry thing he was making in the beginning said? It looked like Greek.
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jacob = jacob
other guy = esau
read yer bibles dudes...
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Anyone know what the tapestry thing he was making in the beginning said? It looked like Greek.
I can't believe I actually have been reading a Lost message board. But here you go. (http://www.timelooptheory.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=318)
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Yeah I got that the dude at the beginning was "Locke" and that he finally found the loophole or whatever to kill Jacob. But:
1. Why did he want to kill Jacob?
2. How did he look like Locke when Locke's body was lying on the beach dead?
I guess we'll find out in just 8 short months. :angry:
I think the episode cleared up the ghosts we've been seeing on the island. The guy in the black (Esau) can take over dead bodies on the island. Therefore, when Jack's dad's body was on the island Esau took it over and used it to pretend to be Jacob. He knew he could convince Ben to kill Jacob but he couldn't do it himself. So he told Locke he needed to die in order to please the island or whatever. That way he could take over Locke's body and become the leader of the newcomers. Then he took over Ben's daughter's body and told ben to listen to Locke, who was actually going to be possessed by Esau. Therefore, all of these ghosts and the Jacob bantering in this last season have all been Esau's scheme to get Ben to kill Jacob. Which means the loophole was probably something like only someone who is human, Jacob brought to the island, lived along time on the island, or something like that could kill Jacob.
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Anyone know what the tapestry thing he was making in the beginning said? It looked like Greek.
I can't believe I actually have been reading a Lost message board. But here you go. (http://www.timelooptheory.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=318)
Don't leave us for them! :crybaby:
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Anyone know what the tapestry thing he was making in the beginning said? It looked like Greek.
I can't believe I actually have been reading a Lost message board. But here you go. (http://www.timelooptheory.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=318)
Don't leave us for them! :crybaby:
Come on man.
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Absolutely amazing. Sucks that we only have a small amount of episodes left, though. :frown:
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Does anyone else think that we should have seen Jacob earlier? Just a bit of character development. As of now, why do I care if Jacob or Esau kills each other?
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(http://www.pastapadre.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/lostlastsupper1.jpg)
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(http://www.pastapadre.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/lostlastsupper1.jpg)
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(http://www.pastapadre.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/lostlastsupper1.jpg)
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:lick:
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Are they eating the baby?
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OMFG I CANNOT WAIT!
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OMFG I CANNOT WAIT!
You might have to wait longer.
His Presidency may pre-empt the premier with the State of the Union.
http://www.tvguide.com/news/state-union-lost-1013442.aspx
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OMFG I CANNOT WAIT!
You might have to wait longer.
His Presidency may pre-empt the premier with the State of the Union.
http://www.tvguide.com/news/state-union-lost-1013442.aspx
the man is a genius
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OMFG I CANNOT WAIT!
You might have to wait longer.
His Presidency may pre-empt the premier with the State of the Union.
http://www.tvguide.com/news/state-union-lost-1013442.aspx
the ratings for that address would be off the charts. but for reals, Obama, don't f with LOST.
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For Realz. Only a few more weeks. 3 HOUR FIRST EPISODE!!! :popcorn:
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For Realz. Only a few more weeks. 3 HOUR FIRST EPISODE!!! :popcorn:
ZOMG!!!
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Anybody still watch it? Anybody excited? :shy:
http://abc.go.com/primetime/lost/index?pn=index
We're getting close. :runaway: Plenty of good info on the forum below.
http://forum.lostpedia.com/
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For Realz. Only a few more weeks. 3 HOUR FIRST EPISODE!!! :popcorn:
Three hours? that means I'll be at least an hour late on the DVR to skip through commercials...
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For Realz. Only a few more weeks. 3 HOUR FIRST EPISODE!!! :popcorn:
1st hour is a recap episode. :sleep:
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Was good to have the recap episode its been a while since ive thought about lost
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Was good to have the recap episode its been a while since ive thought about lost
I spent a good part of a weekend watching the last season on Netflix stream instantly. I missed a lot, was a good waste of time.