LOL at Dax melting down after this game :lol:
Irrational Woolites didn't exist until year 4 of the wooly era IMO.
Irrational Woolites didn't exist until year 4 of the wooly era IMO.
QFT*!
*And I should know.
Irrational Woolites didn't exist until year 4 of the wooly era IMO.
QFT*!
*And I should know.
I was an irrational woolite for a year. I loathed him his last season.
Yeah, I am "melting down" . . . LOL at the hyperdefensive Martinites who can't even handle the least bit of questioning of what Frank is doing (or not doing out there).
Yeah, I am "melting down" . . . LOL at the hyperdefensive Martinites who can't even handle the least bit of questioning of what Frank is doing (or not doing out there).
Because it's all about the players. If you want to get pissed at Martin, get pissed on him for missing out on Wesley Witherspoon and Kenny Kadji and Ray Shipman, not for whatever he failed to do last night.
Yeah, I am "melting down" . . . LOL at the hyperdefensive Martinites who can't even handle the least bit of questioning of what Frank is doing (or not doing out there).
sodj never gets upset. always calm, cool, collected and reasonable. what we would do w/o him? we'd all be losing our heads and not keeping things in perspective.
Yeah, I am "melting down" . . . LOL at the hyperdefensive Martinites who can't even handle the least bit of questioning of what Frank is doing (or not doing out there).
Where did I defend Frank (assuming you are refering to me)?
But I love the logic . . . hey, we just don't have the talent, so don't even bother to ask any questions about his inability to have a team prepared to play, his weird ass substitution patterns and his lack of an actual offense.
sodj never gets upset. always calm, cool, collected and reasonable. what we would do w/o him? we'd all be losing our heads and not keeping things in perspective.:powertard: :powertard: :powertard: :powertard:
But I love the logic . . . hey, we just don't have the talent, so don't even bother to ask any questions about his inability to have a team prepared to play, his weird ass substitution patterns and his lack of an actual offense.
Glad you like it. Hopefully you will see the light some day.
Yeah, I am "melting down" . . . LOL at the hyperdefensive Martinites who can't even handle the least bit of questioning of what Frank is doing (or not doing out there).
Where did I defend Frank (assuming you are refering to me)?
:rolleyes:
sodj never gets upset. always calm, cool, collected and reasonable. what we would do w/o him? we'd all be losing our heads and not keeping things in perspective.:powertard: :powertard: :powertard: :powertard:
why so angry?
But I love the logic . . . hey, we just don't have the talent, so don't even bother to ask any questions about his inability to have a team prepared to play, his weird ass substitution patterns and his lack of an actual offense.
Glad you like it. Hopefully you will see the light some day.
. . . in Frank's case, top talent or just pretty much forget about it.
Yeah, I am "melting down" . . . LOL at the hyperdefensive Martinites who can't even handle the least bit of questioning of what Frank is doing (or not doing out there).
Where did I defend Frank (assuming you are refering to me)?
:rolleyes:
What does that even mean (other than you couldn't find an instance of me being a "hyperdefensive Martinite")?
:powertard:sodj never gets upset. always calm, cool, collected and reasonable. what we would do w/o him? we'd all be losing our heads and not keeping things in perspective.:powertard: :powertard: :powertard: :powertard:
why so angry?
Not angry . . . but :powertard: is :powertard: . . . you just can't cut it any other way.
But I love the logic . . . hey, we just don't have the talent, so don't even bother to ask any questions about his inability to have a team prepared to play, his weird ass substitution patterns and his lack of an actual offense.
Glad you like it. Hopefully you will see the light some day.
. . . in Frank's case, top talent or just pretty much forget about it.
It's like that w/ everyone, except maybe John Beilein.
Luckily, top talent appears to be coming.
dax has always had the best meltdowns.
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mcm . . . since you don't have anything real to add, at least make sure you vote in the poll.sodj never :angryMJ:
Thanks . . . and you're a fine . . . :powertard:
dax has always had the best meltdowns.
Extreme . . . :powertard:
Sure, it appears to be coming.
Why even have the coaches on the sidelines during games?? Or even have them show up at practice . . . if you get what "appears" to be top talent, that's all you need. Screw an actual offense or getting the team ready to play.
Dax, I don't think you understan what :powertard: means. For example, the GPC board is 100% jam packed with people saying the exact thing you are saying in this thread. That would seem to indicate your usage of :powertard: is incorrect and, in fact, the polar opposite of what it actually means.
Frank martin needs to coach our guards to stop turning the ball over better. That's my only complaint. I wonder if they work on that?
Dax, I don't think you understan what :powertard: means. For example, the GPC board is 100% jam packed with people saying the exact thing you are saying in this thread. That would seem to indicate your usage of :powertard: is incorrect and, in fact, the polar opposite of what it actually means.
Sure I understand . . . and it's extreme powertard almost extreme Woolite the way some on here will not and cannot tolerate any questioning of what Frank is trying or not trying to do.
But hey, lets just all quit talking about Frank and understand if he's only gotten Sessions things would be totally different.
An actual offense is for losers.
who is sessions?
:dunno:
who is sessions?
:dunno:
Love the "real offense" talking point, though. :billypopcorn:
:popcorn:
These are the kind of threads people get disassociated over.
Well Rusty, please explain what K-State does on the offensive end of the court . . . can anyone actually describe that without pulling out some Dana Altman at K-State game film??
Well Rusty, please explain what K-State does on the offensive end of the court . . . can anyone actually describe that without pulling out some Dana Altman at K-State game film??
Oh, and I meant Witherspoon (sp??) or KK, don't know where I got Sessions.
Well Rusty, please explain what K-State does on the offensive end of the court . . . can anyone actually describe that without pulling out some Dana Altman at K-State game film??
Oh, and I meant Witherspoon (sp??) or KK, don't know where I got Sessions.
We are trying to run a ball screen offense for Clemente/Pullen and when that doesn't work we go to a sort of motion. I'm not going to disagree with the fact that Frank is not a genius when it comes to halfcourt offense, but then again I don't expect him to be. I'm much more ticked that he hasn't found ways to get this team into more transition opportunities, but then again when you don't play defense and the other team makes nearly 60% of their shots, that's hard to do.
Clearly, Frank is a primary contributor to an aweful 30 minute stretch (or) so of basketball that we saw across the last two ball games, but I don't think the players have been real great at executing the gameplan either. I thought Frank made some nice adjustments last night, unfortunately it was after the thing was nearly already over. And the inability to adjust to OU's half court trap was pretty poor for all parties involved. But to me this isn't the time to get real upset; if we go to Lincoln and have some of the same issues against a team that is much more equal to us in talent, then I'll probably have something more to say. Right now, not really.
Well Rusty, please explain what K-State does on the offensive end of the court . . . can anyone actually describe that without pulling out some Dana Altman at K-State game film??
Oh, and I meant Witherspoon (sp??) or KK, don't know where I got Sessions.
We are trying to run a ball screen offense for Clemente/Pullen and when that doesn't work we go to a sort of motion. I'm not going to disagree with the fact that Frank is not a genius when it comes to halfcourt offense, but then again I don't expect him to be. I'm much more ticked that he hasn't found ways to get this team into more transition opportunities, but then again when you don't play defense and the other team makes nearly 60% of their shots, that's hard to do.
Clearly, Frank is a primary contributor to an aweful 30 minute stretch (or) so of basketball that we saw across the last two ball games, but I don't think the players have been real great at executing the gameplan either. I thought Frank made some nice adjustments last night, unfortunately it was after the thing was nearly already over. And the inability to adjust to OU's half court trap was pretty poor for all parties involved. But to me this isn't the time to get real upset; if we go to Lincoln and have some of the same issues against a team that is much more equal to us in talent, then I'll probably have something more to say. Right now, not really.
Ok . . . and I agree, Frank keeps talking about pushing the ball. Well it's primarily Clemente totally out of control pushing the ball . . . hell any team can find some really fast guy on the dribble to run up and down the court. How about an actual transition game . . . you know, spacing, secondary break all that kind of stuff, not just running down the floor like your hair is on fire.
In hearing my friend describe the game before I got a chance to watch it, I would've thought K-State had 30 turnovers, they had 13.
In hearing my friend describe the game before I got a chance to watch it, I would've thought K-State had 30 turnovers, they had 13.
The quantity of turnovers probably wasn't all that bad...but it seemed like half of them happened in the first 5 minutes way out on the point...led to too many transition baskets early on. I could accept turnovers if we were cutting and screening and trying to get the ball inside...but we couldn't even make a pass out on the wing to start the game.
I am still :confused: about playing Colon with 4 fouls. High school type coaching move. Can't add I guess.
LOL
I am still :confused: about playing Colon with 4 fouls. High school type coaching move. Can't add I guess.
LOL
did you want kent out there? Did you want to sit him hoping we could make a comeback and bring him back in when we are down 1 and did you want LU taking the last shot?
The "how to use Colon with 4 fouls" talking point is by far one of the best we've had around here for quite some time. Quality stuff.
Until Frank learns how to develop a substitution pattern and a half court offense that revolves around Luis, he will never shed the "high school" label.
We def need to run some sort of Princeton offense, remember how fun it was to watch those small school run that, and almost pull off upsets in the first round of the tournament? Maybe one day we'll get a coach that will run an offense good enough to almost pull off a first round upset.
Until Frank learns how to develop a substitution pattern and a half court offense that revolves around Luis, he will never shed the "high school" label.
We def need to run some sort of Princeton offense, remember how fun it was to watch those small school run that, and almost pull off upsets in the first round of the tournament? Maybe one day we'll get a coach that will run an offense good enough to almost pull off a first round upset.
Plus, Princeton offense coaches always coach up players to f^cking nail it from 3.
Until Frank learns how to develop a substitution pattern and a half court offense that revolves around Luis, he will never shed the "high school" label.
We def need to run some sort of Princeton offense, remember how fun it was to watch those small school run that, and almost pull off upsets in the first round of the tournament? Maybe one day we'll get a coach that will run an offense good enough to almost pull off a first round upset.
Plus, Princeton offense coaches always coach up players to f^cking nail it from 3.
Yes, and their dudes always do a great job getting into triple threat position, something in which our current group is severely lacking.
Until Frank learns how to develop a substitution pattern and a half court offense that revolves around Luis, he will never shed the "high school" label.
We def need to run some sort of Princeton offense, remember how fun it was to watch those small school run that, and almost pull off upsets in the first round of the tournament? Maybe one day we'll get a coach that will run an offense good enough to almost pull off a first round upset.
Plus, Princeton offense coaches always coach up players to f^cking nail it from 3.
Yes, and their dudes always do a great job getting into triple threat position, something in which our current group is severely lacking.
JUMP STOP, DAMMIT!
It's like that w/ everyone, except maybe John Beilein.
You guys aren't taking this seriously. :curse:
But you do have to admire the Brown-Sutton combo going 2 for 11 from 3 last night.
Brown should shoot 3's on every possession imo.
Teaching them fundamentals like blocking out and ball handling will go a lot farther.
It's like that w/ everyone, except maybe John Beilein.
huge props to me. between your coworker with tickets and your new, little beilein crush, definitely a michigan man.
Franks gotta learn how to coach guys who aren't all that talented. I dunno if anyone noticed, but there's been a bit of a dropoff from last year's team talent-wise. He needs to realize that blaming his players for sucking isn't going to solve the problems we have. Teaching them fundamentals like blocking out and ball handling will go a lot farther.
Teaching them fundamentals like blocking out and ball handling will go a lot farther.
Yeah, let's just run Wooden Drills and Three Man Weave all f^cking practice. :flush:
Five players on the floor functioning as one single unit: team, team, team - no one more important that the other.
Franks gotta learn how to coachguys who aren't all that talented. I dunno if anyone noticed, but there's been a bit of a dropoff from last year's team talent-wise. He needs to realize that blaming his players for sucking isn't going to solve the problems we have. Teaching them fundamentals like blocking out and ball handling will go a lot farther.
Franks gotta learn how to coachguys who aren't all that talented. I dunno if anyone noticed, but there's been a bit of a dropoff from last year's team talent-wise. He needs to realize that blaming his players for sucking isn't going to solve the problems we have. Teaching them fundamentals like blocking out and ball handling will go a lot farther.
I laughed when Colonflushedfouled out.
Frank was out there all angry the whole game. He's just bein' Frank*.
*a poor coach