KSUFans Archives
Sports => Snyder's Electronic Cyber Space World => Topic started by: opcat on November 29, 2008, 11:04:54 PM
-
It's Mark May! And he gives the postfiring speech about Croom and the the state of black coaches.
I guess this is a weekly show on Espn now.
Hey Espn ! Why not push for affirmative action in coaching! I love seeing politics on Espn and love the lectures! Lots of black players means we should have lots of black coaches!
How about kick all the black players out of football so that we have the correct racial demographic ratio of students.
-
:eyeseeyou:
-
It's weird. This time I actually agree with op about this "race" topic.
-
He did a horrible job at Miss St, I do not know how that could be defended...
-
It would be nice if someone with guts would tell MM that all those coaches sucked.
-
put together all the black coaches records who were coaches at the beginning of the season. It's not very good.
Then look at Herm Edwards.
I'm sorry but black people are terrible coaches
-
:eyeseeyou:
-
put together all the black coaches records who were coaches at the beginning of the season. It's not very good.
Then look at Herm Edwards.
I'm sorry but black people are terrible coaches
Not true; Eloquent black people are terrible coaches.
Has there ever been a black coach that ESPN didn't decide was a great public speaker?
I want to see a black coach that can’t talk for crap before all black coaches are labeled terrible. Let’s be honest… The guys doing the hiring (guys with $$) would likely label someone as “uppity” if they were black and not a good public speaker, thus eliminating an entire demographic of people who do not bow down to the man. Would Gary Patterson have a job if he was black? Would Mark Mangino after complaining of the BCS? Would “I’m a man, I’m 40” have a job?
-
put together all the black coaches records who were coaches at the beginning of the season. It's not very good.
Then look at Herm Edwards.
I'm sorry but black people are terrible coaches
While I agree that it's ridiculous to cry racism over a black coach being fired after 5 years and a 21 and 38 record with only one winning season but your post is just retarded. You should probably kill yourself and not tell people that you went to K-State.
-
'Bout time to change the ol' sig, don't ya think, Waks?
:thumbsup:
-
put together all the black coaches records who were coaches at the beginning of the season. It's not very good.
Then look at Herm Edwards.
I'm sorry but black people are terrible coaches
Not true; Eloquent black people are terrible coaches.
Has there ever been a black coach that ESPN didn't decide was a great public speaker?
I want to see a black coach that can’t talk for crap before all black coaches are labeled terrible. Let’s be honest… The guys doing the hiring (guys with $$) would likely label someone as “uppity” if they were black and not a good public speaker, thus eliminating an entire demographic of people who do not bow down to the man. Would Gary Patterson have a job if he was black? Would Mark Mangino after complaining of the BCS? Would “I’m a man, I’m 40” have a job?
Eloquent black coach that is good, Tony Dungy
Non "eloquent" Singletary and lovie Smith(imo)
but yeah ops I mostly agree with you on this. mm is an idiot, and espn is getting worse and worse.
-
put together all the black coaches records who were coaches at the beginning of the season. It's not very good.
Then look at Herm Edwards.
I'm sorry but black people are terrible coaches
Not true; Eloquent black people are terrible coaches.
Has there ever been a black coach that ESPN didn't decide was a great public speaker?
I want to see a black coach that can’t talk for crap before all black coaches are labeled terrible. Let’s be honest… The guys doing the hiring (guys with $$) would likely label someone as “uppity” if they were black and not a good public speaker, thus eliminating an entire demographic of people who do not bow down to the man. Would Gary Patterson have a job if he was black? Would Mark Mangino after complaining of the BCS? Would “I’m a man, I’m 40” have a job?
Eloquent black coach that is good, Tony Dungy
Non "eloquent" Singletary and lovie Smith(imo)
but yeah ops I mostly agree with you on this. mm is an idiot, and espn is getting worse and worse.
Dungy: Peyton manning; It's clear they suck without him.
Singleterry: Who the &@#% are the 49rs?
I'll give you Lovie though...
-
put together all the black coaches records who were coaches at the beginning of the season. It's not very good.
Then look at Herm Edwards.
I'm sorry but black people are terrible coaches
Not true; Eloquent black people are terrible coaches.
Has there ever been a black coach that ESPN didn't decide was a great public speaker?
I want to see a black coach that can’t talk for crap before all black coaches are labeled terrible. Let’s be honest… The guys doing the hiring (guys with $$) would likely label someone as “uppity” if they were black and not a good public speaker, thus eliminating an entire demographic of people who do not bow down to the man. Would Gary Patterson have a job if he was black? Would Mark Mangino after complaining of the BCS? Would “I’m a man, I’m 40” have a job?
Eloquent black coach that is good, Tony Dungy
Non "eloquent" Singletary and lovie Smith(imo)
but yeah ops I mostly agree with you on this. mm is an idiot, and espn is getting worse and worse.
Dungy: Peyton manning; It's clear they suck without him.
Singleterry: Who the frack are the 49rs?
I'll give you Lovie though...
Dungy won at Tampa Bay, when no one else could, without Manning. Dumbass.
-
put together all the black coaches records who were coaches at the beginning of the season. It's not very good.
Then look at Herm Edwards.
I'm sorry but black people are terrible coaches
Not true; Eloquent black people are terrible coaches.
Has there ever been a black coach that ESPN didn't decide was a great public speaker?
I want to see a black coach that can’t talk for crap before all black coaches are labeled terrible. Let’s be honest… The guys doing the hiring (guys with $$) would likely label someone as “uppity” if they were black and not a good public speaker, thus eliminating an entire demographic of people who do not bow down to the man. Would Gary Patterson have a job if he was black? Would Mark Mangino after complaining of the BCS? Would “I’m a man, I’m 40” have a job?
Eloquent black coach that is good, Tony Dungy
Non "eloquent" Singletary and lovie Smith(imo)
but yeah ops I mostly agree with you on this. mm is an idiot, and espn is getting worse and worse.
Dungy: Peyton manning; It's clear they suck without him.
Singleterry: Who the frack are the 49rs?
I'll give you Lovie though...
Dungy won at Tampa Bay, when no one else could, without Manning. Dumbass.
Awesome, you found one example...you need any examples on the failures of black head coaches?
...Ron Prince....nuff said...
-
:lol: <--- @ people who bitch and moan in a thread about someone looking for racism that isn't there, and then they do the same thing.
There are more examples of horrible white coaches then there are horrible black coaches. :thumbsup:
-
I have a question for MM and company.
You all speak about the disparity of 2 black coaches out of 120 coaching positions.
How many black coaches are out there that are qualified to coach at this level? I'm sure there are quite a few, but are there enough to meet the quota and break this disparity?
It is kind of like the symphony in California that was compelled by affirmative action to meet a quota of black musicians. The thing is, qualified black musicians did not want to play for a classical symphony. They wanted to play other kinds of music.
If there is a large number of qualified black coaches out there looking for jobs, then yes, we have a problem. But if the reason there aren't more black head coaches is because there aren't enough who are qualified, then quit your whining.
-
i hate black people, LOL
-
Perhaps someone should look at the executive management at ESPN and give us a breakdown of their racial composition.
Also, if ESPN feels so sorry for Sylvester Croom and they believe that he is worth a million bucks per year then perhaps they should hire him and pay him that salary. ESPN has more money to spend than Mississippi State does so they should go for it.
TC
-
Nice first post, racist. :thumbsup:
-
I drink fart juice.
-
dear lord catmatt, nearly all of your posts here deal with telling black people to shut the f*ck up.
and even the most ardent racist should be able to admit there are more than 3 qualified blacks to run a d-1 program.
-
Thats why ESPN put MM with Lou Holtz.
If you put your two dumbest people together, then they both look 1/2 way smart.
The difference is, Lou wasn't there to make MM look like a genius this time by spitting his way through some stupid pep talk.
-
Affirmative action is racism.
-
TP - Just curious, but did you ever see any racist type activity, as part of the team or outside of the team, while playing at KSU?
-
put together all the black coaches records who were coaches at the beginning of the season. It's not very good.
Then look at Herm Edwards.
I'm sorry but black people are terrible coaches
Not true; Eloquent black people are terrible coaches.
Has there ever been a black coach that ESPN didn't decide was a great public speaker?
I want to see a black coach that can’t talk for crap before all black coaches are labeled terrible. Let’s be honest… The guys doing the hiring (guys with $$) would likely label someone as “uppity” if they were black and not a good public speaker, thus eliminating an entire demographic of people who do not bow down to the man. Would Gary Patterson have a job if he was black? Would Mark Mangino after complaining of the BCS? Would “I’m a man, I’m 40” have a job?
Eloquent black coach that is good, Tony Dungy
Non "eloquent" Singletary and lovie Smith(imo)
but yeah ops I mostly agree with you on this. mm is an idiot, and espn is getting worse and worse.
Dungy: Peyton manning; It's clear they suck without him.
Singleterry: Who the frack are the 49rs?
I'll give you Lovie though...
Dungy won at Tampa Bay, when no one else could, without Manning. Dumbass.
54 / 42 = .556 w/ 1 good year... :jerkoff:
but who gives a sh1t... I jumped in this thread as devils advocate only.
-
Not true; Eloquent black people are terrible coaches.
Has there ever been a black coach that ESPN didn't decide was a great public speaker?
I want to see a black coach that can’t talk for crap before all black coaches are labeled terrible. Let’s be honest… The guys doing the hiring (guys with $$) would likely label someone as “uppity” if they were black and not a good public speaker, thus eliminating an entire demographic of people who do not bow down to the man. Would Gary Patterson have a job if he was black? Would Mark Mangino after complaining of the BCS? Would “I’m a man, I’m 40” have a job?
Eloquent black coach that is good, Tony Dungy
Non "eloquent" Singletary and lovie Smith(imo)
but yeah ops I mostly agree with you on this. mm is an idiot, and espn is getting worse and worse.
Dungy: Peyton manning; It's clear they suck without him.
Singleterry: Who the frack are the 49rs?
I'll give you Lovie though...
Dungy won at Tampa Bay, when no one else could, without Manning. Dumbass.
54 / 42 = .556 w/ 1 good year... :jerkoff:
but who gives a sh1t... I jumped in this thread as devils advocate only.
Dungy was the first coach to ever have a career winning record at the hellhole that was the Bucs. He took the team to the playoffs 4 times in his 6 years, after the franchise had only been to the playoffs twice ever in its prior history. But, sure, Dungy sucks if you say so...
-
dear lord catmatt, nearly all of your posts here deal with telling black people to shut the f*ck up.
and even the most ardent racist should be able to admit there are more than 3 qualified blacks to run a d-1 program.
Where do you get the racist crap? All I hear on ESPN is "Hire more black people!" but I don't hear names. Now, in the NFL years ago, there was talk of the outrage that guys like Tony Dungy and Lovie Smith weren't getting a look at an HC shot. They listed qualified coaches who were African-American. Is ESPN doing that? No, they're just saying to hire more black people. Which ones? Give us a list of qualified candidates, but don't expect schools to go snatch the next under-qualified candidate (like K-State did) just because of his race.
I get sick of being called a racist when my history of involvement (in my teaching and the charities I support) speaks the contrary. I believe all qualified candidates should be given a look regardless of race. In fact, I believe all qualified black candidatesshould be head coaches right now. Who are they? Have they put their names in the running for jobs? As I said before, IF SO, then we have a problem. But if they are not putting their names in the running, why play the race card when they are not hired.
-
Some of this is pretty racist. Turner Gill is doing a GREAT job at Buffalo, Randy Shannon is doing a decent job at Miami and don't forget about NFL head coaches Lovie Smith and Tony Dungy
-
My best friend is black, dawg! I'm not racist!
-
So basically CatMatt believes that there are only 3 qualified black people (at most) to be head coaches right now.
Buy hey, lets give Dana Dimel or Phil Bennett another chance...
-
I can't think of a white coordinator more qualified for a head coaching position than Charlie Strong.
-
So basically CatMatt believes that there are only 3 qualified black people (at most) to be head coaches right now.
Buy hey, lets give Dana Dimel or Phil Bennett another chance...
So basically, Chingon is saying, "I don't read Catmatt's posts, I just make assumptions."
And basically, Oklahoma Cat is saying, "Uhhhh, what is that you are saying? Sorry I could not hear with my head lodged so firmly in my ass that I can suck my sphincter like it was my mother's teat. Uhhhh, since I don't know jack, I'll make something up."
I never said there are only 3 qualified black people. I asked ESPN (and any of the dinglberries on this board who care) to tell me who is out there who they think deserves a head coaching job.
If I own a business and no black people are applying, don't tell me to hire more black people.
All ESPN is saying is that the disparity is unacceptable. No mention of who is out there who is qualified. Just muttering that this is unnacceptable, thank you.
You fracknuts can spin this any way you want. My issue is not with black coaches. My issue is with those out there who call us racist and say that if Prince had been white he would have been given more time. I argue, as do most on this board who are too chickencrap to say anything now, that had Prince been white he would have never been offered the job in the first place. We all knew from the get-go that he was grossly under-qualified for the job, but Timmy Weiser's desire to be the first Bg12 team to make such a daring politically correct move superceded the needs of the program. Then, when it came back to bite us, we fired him and were told by Mark May that we didn't give him enough time. Do you think Mark May cried for Paul Hackett at USC in 1999 (fired after three years) or Ron Zook at Florida in 2004 (ditto)?
-
Matt, Charlie Strong has been mentioned a ton...probably more than any white coordinator out there. Just because he wasn't mentioned the one time you listened to Mark May, doesn't mean it hasn't happened.
There's a lot of other qualified black candidates that are coordinators, but they rarely get mentioned just like white coordinators rarely get mentioned.
-
Instead of stating outrage when a coach is fired, ESPN should try to promote minority coaches. I have to think that the backlash (like we got from firing Prince) has to turn off schools from taking chances on Black coaches. But maybe ESPN already does do a good job of promoting minority coaches. I don't know I really don't follow sports.
-
dear lord catmatt, nearly all of your posts here deal with telling black people to shut the f*ck up.
and even the most ardent racist should be able to admit there are more than 3 qualified blacks to run a d-1 program.
Where do you get the racist crap? All I hear on ESPN is "Hire more black people!" but I don't hear names. Now, in the NFL years ago, there was talk of the outrage that guys like Tony Dungy and Lovie Smith weren't getting a look at an HC shot. They listed qualified coaches who were African-American. Is ESPN doing that? No, they're just saying to hire more black people. Which ones? Give us a list of qualified candidates, but don't expect schools to go snatch the next under-qualified candidate (like K-State did) just because of his race.
I get sick of being called a racist when my history of involvement (in my teaching and the charities I support) speaks the contrary. I believe all qualified candidates should be given a look regardless of race. In fact, I believe all qualified black candidatesshould be head coaches right now. Who are they? Have they put their names in the running for jobs? As I said before, IF SO, then we have a problem. But if they are not putting their names in the running, why play the race card when they are not hired.
You don't need to defend yourself. You're not racist. The idiots calling you racist are 'snickering' at you.
'Racist' label is used by liberals everywhere to try and silence debate and silence people.