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Fan Life => The Endzone Dive => Topic started by: pissclams on September 22, 2008, 06:51:50 PM
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My computer finally died and I'm thinking about replacing it with a new Imac. Thing is- I've never used an Apple except to surf the net. What do you think? Not wanting to relearn everything I know about PC's but am willing to pick up a Mac For Dummies and think I could pick it up. Go Katz.
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I think they are toys. JMO. Trendy, underpowered, and high priced A PC can do anything a MAC can do, but better, and cheaper.
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the design of the imac is a big appeal imo, i love how there's no wires etc
related to them being underpowered, the intel CPU's they put in them handle any application you can throw at them. i dont know, seems pretty slick.
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the design of the imac is a big appeal imo, i love how there's no wires etc
related to them being underpowered, the intel CPU's they put in them handle any application you can throw at them. i dont know, seems pretty slick.
underpowered relative to how much you spend on them, fwiw.
But yeah, if you want the "all in one" computer an iMac would be alright.
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New macbooks are coming in the next couple of weeks FWIW
I can't really stand using windows anymore after being on my mac for 3 years. Vista has finally caught up with some of the features that OSX had 4 years ago, but it's not as stable. Plus you can boot into windows on a mac.
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I would rather a broken PC than a working Mac. Things are crap.
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ya not really looking at any laptops. i dunno, maybe i'll just build another pc...
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Disappointed this thread wasn't about Granny Smith v. Golden Delicious.
Granny Smith FWIW.
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Disappointed this thread wasn't about Granny Smith v. Golden Delicious.
Granny Smith FWIW.
QFT, apples are for eating, not for typing resumes, BTW, did you guys know Eva Longoria is a PC? :love:
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My macbook as given me tons of problems. Have to restart all the time. Won't print. Won't save any kind of document sometimes. I want to sell it.
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My macbook as given me tons of problems. Have to restart all the time. Won't print. Won't save any kind of document sometimes. I want to sell it.
Really? It was the opposite for me. My PC is super slow, freezes a lot. Then, I got my macbook and have never had a single problem with it.
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I've had a Mac Book Pro 15.4 for nearly two years and I've never had to have it worked on. I'm on it alot too. It gets alot of use. I upped the RAM to 2GB and it has enough power for basic design programs like Photoshop, Illustrator, Indesign, Dreamweaver...but not enough for video editing. Thinking about selling it and upgrading to the newer models that are nearly 3GHz and 4GB Ram.
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My macbook as given me tons of problems. Have to restart all the time. Won't print. Won't save any kind of document sometimes. I want to sell it.
Maybe you shouldn't drop it on the floor.
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I used a Mac for about a year and I hated it. The OS had a nice simple design to it, but that is it. It has just as many issues as Windows, so don't believe the hype. I've actually had a ton more issues with Macs than I have with Vista or XP machines.
For a power user, I can't see myself depending on OS X for my work.
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having used computers since the commodore 64 days, I'm not ignorant enough to think that either one (apple or pc) offers up unlimited computing with no problems/issues. i do think the apple os is more stable than vista and less likely to draw the attention of virus/hax0r retards, but that's not to say it won't give me problems from time to time.
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i get to learn something new, love the "all in one design" of the imac with a huge 24 inch screen, known for more graphic art related crap
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cheaper than apple, can build myself, wires everywhere and cluttered, big, can buy a big monitor from dell, already know how to use, vista sux
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pissclams, i'm thinking of doing a BOY (build it yourself) soon, well....myself.
If you go that route, maybe start a new thread about it, and we can sit down and talk x's and o's in terms of computer parts.
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having used computers since the commodore 64 days, I'm not ignorant enough to think that either one (apple or pc) offers up unlimited computing with no problems/issues. i do think the apple os is more stable than vista and less likely to draw the attention of virus/hax0r retards, but that's not to say it won't give me problems from time to time.
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i get to learn something new, love the "all in one design" of the imac with a huge 24 inch screen, known for more graphic art related crap
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cheaper than apple, can build myself, wires everywhere and cluttered, big, can buy a big monitor from dell, already know how to use, vista sux
I have actually found the OSX drivers to suck just as much as Windows. In my line of work, color correction (monitor and printer matching exactly) is very important. This is hard to do when Nvidia drivers are AWFUL and plotters drivers are AWFUL. Now days, Apples aren't the best for graphics. It's not 1990 anymore. Also, OSX has the issue of the entire OS crashing when a program or driver crashes. Vista is one of the better OS's in being able to close out a program or a driver and retain the stability of the OS. My Vista laptop at home hasn't restarted in about a month, because it's just as stable as a fresh restart.
What will you be using this computer for?
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My computer finally died and I'm thinking about replacing it with a new Imac. Thing is- I've never used an Apple except to surf the net. What do you think? Not wanting to relearn everything I know about PC's but am willing to pick up a Mac For Dummies and think I could pick it up. Go Katz.
simply: imacs are amazing.
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I used a Mac for about a year and I hated it. The OS had a nice simple design to it, but that is it. It has just as many issues as Windows, so don't believe the hype. I've actually had a ton more issues with Macs than I have with Vista or XP machines.
For a power user, I can't see myself depending on OS X for my work.
i've had zero issues on all the macs ive owned. for 9 years. no issues.
just depends. kinda like buying a car.
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I've had zero issues with any PC I've ever owned. 75 years and 347 PCs and absolutely no probs. Each has also included hidden compartments full of gold nuggets and jewels. I've owned 46 apple computers and each have been completely buggy and faulty to the point of un-useability. Also, each apple had a live cocked-and-loaded skunk living inside ready to spray me in the face the first time I started them up. Just fyi d00ds.
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the computer will be my home pc. prob not a lot of gaming since i'm covered in that dept.
mostly surfing the world wide web and learning photoshop better, and a program like final cut or vegas. and whatever people use their home computers for, all that crap.
ecn i thought you were in the cayman islands or something. also, GO KAt Z
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I've had zero issues with any PC I've ever owned. 75 years and 347 PCs and absolutely no probs. Each has also included hidden compartments full of gold nuggets and jewels. I've owned 46 apple computers and each have been completely buggy and faulty to the point of un-useability. Also, each apple had a live cocked-and-loaded skunk living inside ready to spray me in the face the first time I started them up. Just fyi d00ds.
:banned:
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the computer will be my home pc. prob not a lot of gaming since i'm covered in that dept.
mostly surfing the world wide web and learning photoshop better, and a program like final cut or vegas. and whatever people use their home computers for, all that crap.
ecn i thought you were in the cayman islands or something. also, GO KAt Z
bahamas. got back monday morn.
apples arent meant for typing resumes. PC's are. the more simple the better.
if you want photoshop, final cut and vegas to run smoothly together, the apple is made for that.
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Apples aren't without problems. My Macbook has been somewhat less durable than the iBook I had before. They are notorious for palmrest cracking and screen flicker, and mine has both issues. It's right at 2 years old now. Also I had to buy a new battery for about $100, but OTOH it never leaves my side. I live on it and never use my PC unless I have to print something. I work quite a bit with Unix, though, so there's no comparison when it comes to ease of use with a mac vs. pc in this environment. It all depends on what programs you like/need. Macs are pretty bad for gaming, but if you just spend all day on the web like me they're great. Also it takes about 10 seconds to boot up, although I usually just leave it in sleep mode. I literally go months without rebooting unless there's a software update or I need to use windows for something. I've just never found a PC that has the same feel when it comes to the trackpad and keyboard.
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i understand whats going on.
a few things we should all be aware of.
they make games for macs. but macs arent really into gaming. any computer is going to do good on the web. its searching and browsing for christs sake.
stick with what PC's and MAC's are made for.
it all depends on what you do.
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I stole Bookcat's iMac. Works pretty well for me. Conversion was easy with "missing manuals" book. Much better than Dummies series.
Downside=lots of programs I can't run on Mac that I could on PC. I know there are Mac equivalents for a lot, but I'm lazy. Saul is right though, lot of money for what you get.
Upside=more stable for me. Like the design.
Overall, I like both mac and pc. Pluses and drawbacks both ways.
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Dumbass users can't &@#% up MAC's as much which is good. Although don't switch from a PC to a MAC them because they will never figure it out. For all the crap you want to do a MAC would be fine, since I assume PC does not have Final Cut or Vegas (?), but i'm sure they have programs out there that do the exact same thing as them.
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pissclams, i'm thinking of doing a BOY (build it yourself) soon, well....myself.
If you go that route, maybe start a new thread about it, and we can sit down and talk x's and o's in terms of computer parts.
:cyclist:
I'm thinking of building also and going w/ Ubuntu (gnome version on gnu/linux).
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Dumbass users can't frack up MAC's as much which is good. Although don't switch from a PC to a MAC them because they will never figure it out. For all the crap you want to do a MAC would be fine, since I assume PC does not have Final Cut or Vegas (?), but i'm sure they have programs out there that do the exact same thing as them.
vegas is a sony program available for pc, video editing, etc
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I probably want to cast my vote for clams to get a mac. I'm a big propnent of trying new things. Broadening one's horizons, so to speak. If clams doesn't like his new mac, he can always sell it on ebay and then find a pc that will meet his computing needs. Also, he can look into getting an iphone.
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Trying something new shouldn't cost money.
What's your favorite Linux distro?
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Trying something new shouldn't cost money.
What's your favorite Linux distro?
:nerd:
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Trying something new shouldn't cost money.
What's your favorite Linux distro?
:nerd:
I have no shame.
PS have you seen your sig? It's awesome, but tell me there's not an air of nerdieness about you.
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Trying something new shouldn't cost money.
What's your favorite Linux distro?
:nerd:
I have no shame.
PS have you seen your sig? It's awesome, but tell me there's not an air of nerdieness about you.
crap, I'm a BAMF. 8-)
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Chings said "shade up, bitches" - i put up my shades 8-)
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(http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/6158/51739488ul0.png)
possible "middle ground" has been found.
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There are plenty of all-in-ones. I kinda want to play with this one: http://www.hp.com/united-states/campaigns/touchsmart/alt/tsalt.html
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There are plenty of all-in-ones. I kinda want to play with this one: http://www.hp.com/united-states/campaigns/touchsmart/alt/tsalt.html
thats pretty pimp- i will check it out, GO KATZW :nono: :pray:
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There are plenty of all-in-ones. I kinda want to play with this one: http://www.hp.com/united-states/campaigns/touchsmart/alt/tsalt.html
i went and messed with one of these today, does anyone know anything about them?
my concern is that the touch screen software. the first thing i'd want to do when i got this home would be to wipe the HDD clean and reformat to get all of the preloaded junk off of it. assume there's some weird touch screen software that needs to run in conjunction with vista? :confused:
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this is the other option i'm looking at. apple has fallen out of the race at this point. (http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10551&storeId=10151&langId=-1&productId=8198552921665507563)
and oh btw, intel has done a sufficiently great job of confusing me with their cpu naming convention
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New macbooks are coming in the next couple of weeks FWIW
When? Link?
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As far as the HP touch screen goes, I'm pretty sure all you need is a driver for the touch screen to work. You don't need the software, afaik.
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As far as the HP touch screen goes, I'm pretty sure all you need is a driver for the touch screen to work. You don't need the software, afaik.
cool. i'm kinda hating the fact that they put crapty mobile cpu's in their entire line of all-in-one's. :rolleyes:
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I have two PCs and a Mac. The Mac is for Photoshop, Final Cut, After Effects, Titanium Toast ... all my media software, plus it has three drives and another external drive for boucoup memory. But I would never use it to write, surf the net, do spreadsheets, etc.
It all depends what your usage will be.
My only beef is, when I make my videos, I have to convert to MPEG4, then put taht on a disk, then down;ad the MPEG4 to my PC before I can upload it to YouTube. A bit timeconsuming. But I don't like surfing the net on the Mac, so it is never online.
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can you not upload mac created videos to youtube?
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As far as the HP touch screen goes, I'm pretty sure all you need is a driver for the touch screen to work. You don't need the software, afaik.
cool. i'm kinda hating the fact that they put crapty mobile cpu's in their entire line of all-in-one's. :rolleyes:
Mobile? I thought they all had Core 2 duos?
Matt- That's one of my biggest beefs with Macs. RECOGNIZE NTFS! Anyways, why do you not like surfing on the mac?
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My macbook as given me tons of problems. Have to restart all the time. Won't print. Won't save any kind of document sometimes. I want to sell it.
Weren't you jerking Macs off like a year ago?
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As far as the HP touch screen goes, I'm pretty sure all you need is a driver for the touch screen to work. You don't need the software, afaik.
cool. i'm kinda hating the fact that they put crapty mobile cpu's in their entire line of all-in-one's. :rolleyes:
Mobile? I thought they all had Core 2 duos?
Matt- That's one of my biggest beefs with Macs. RECOGNIZE NTFS! Anyways, why do you not like surfing on the mac?
they make core 2 duos for laptops. i could be wrong but i think that intel cpu's with the T in their name like the T8100 and the T5850 are designated as mobile/laptop cpu's. they put off less heat but they also don't move as fast as their desktop counterparts.
hp also put in laptop video cards in them - GeForce 9600M GS HD graphics cards.
overall it just limits the functionality of the machine but probably had to be done because of engineering (heat) specs. dunno.
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also- went by circuit city at lunch today and the HP demo machine was broken.
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Ahh, I see. From my experience, laptop video cards are actually somewhat comparable to their desktop counter parts. CPU's however seem to lag behind quite a bit. At least for rendering and very CPU intensive stuff like that. Let me know how the HP handles if you find one.
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i did find a working one, at best buy. it was pretty cool from what i could tell...they had the IQ506 which reset itself when i first started playing with it. after waiting about 15 minutes for it to reboot and load some software (i think Best Buy loads some security crap onto it), i played with it for a while. honestly, i'm so used to the mouse as my pointer that the touchsmart almost seemed gimmicky. very responsive and accurate though, the touchsmart is. just not sure how practical...
would be hard to know without sitting it down at your desk at home and playing with it for a while...
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The Dell Inspiron 1525 is a pretty nice machine for not much money. I had a coworker who just bought one.
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transaction completed. which one did clams buy? :confused:
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Has anyone noticed that all the apple commercials choose to use the worst songs of all time to promote their products?
I tried to do handstands for you, for YOUUOHHHOOHHUUUUUOHHHUUUUUOHUUUUU.
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Has anyone noticed that all the apple commercials choose to use the worst songs of all time to promote their products?
I tried to do handstands for you, for YOUUOHHHOOHHUUUUUOHHHUUUUUOHUUUUU.
until kanye west starts promoting apple, they're no way near picking the worst songs of all time.
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transaction completed. which one did clams buy? :confused:
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i got the imac :ugh:
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:'(
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LOL- I knew Saul'd throw up. it's pretty slick.
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LOL- I knew Saul'd throw up. it's pretty slick.
It's cool for awhile.
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Has anyone noticed that all the apple commercials choose to use the worst songs of all time to promote their products?
I tried to do handstands for you, for YOUUOHHHOOHHUUUUUOHHHUUUUUOHUUUUU.
until kanye west starts promoting apple, they're no way near picking the worst songs of all time.
Wow, was able to get two ridiculously incorrect posts in one quote. QFF
was just commenting last night how catchy the ipod 'mercials are.
Also, Kanye is the tits. Sorry 1994!
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kanye blows, the apple songs are good. sorry kanye is all you have, 2008!
LOL- I knew Saul'd throw up. it's pretty slick.
It's cool for awhile.
as much as you don't want to admit it, it's a computer just like your pc is one. it's ironic that a nerd like yourself would give a linux based system such drama. the machine will outperform everything else in its class, and that's why i ultimately decided on it. i've been banging around on computers since my first commodore 64 and honestly i'm sick of microsoft crap and want to learn something new.
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kanye blows, the apple songs are good. sorry kanye is all you have, 2008!
LOL- I knew Saul'd throw up. it's pretty slick.
It's cool for awhile.
as much as you don't want to admit it, it's a computer just like your pc is one. it's ironic that a nerd like yourself would give a linux based system such drama. the machine will outperform everything else in its class, and that's why i ultimately decided on it. i've been banging around on computers since my first commodore 64 and honestly i'm sick of microsoft crap and want to learn something new.
It's an overpriced toy with an OS based on UNIX, not Linux. I really don't have much of a problem with the Mac OS either for that matter, it's stable but it's difficult to tweak, doesn't give you many options and software is limited when compared to PC.
The hardware however is overpriced and properitary which drives me crazy. I can build my own PC but good luck trying to build a MAC. :shy:
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Exactly what i'm trying to say, bro.
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kanye blows, the apple songs are good. sorry kanye is all you have, 2008!
LOL- I knew Saul'd throw up. it's pretty slick.
It's cool for awhile.
as much as you don't want to admit it, it's a computer just like your pc is one. it's ironic that a nerd like yourself would give a linux based system such drama. the machine will outperform everything else in its class, and that's why i ultimately decided on it. i've been banging around on computers since my first commodore 64 and honestly i'm sick of microsoft crap and want to learn something new.
It's an overpriced toy with an OS based on UNIX, not Linux. I really don't have much of a problem with the Mac OS either for that matter, it's stable but it's difficult to tweak, doesn't give you many options and software is limited when compared to PC.
The hardware however is overpriced and properitary which drives me crazy. I can build my own PC but good luck trying to build a MAC. :shy:
it's a toy and not a computer? i thought it was a computer, i must have missed something.
meh, i meant unix. linux rocks unix, you knew what i meant. and ya, the hw is for the most part properitary but so is most of dell's crap. i guess in the end i felt like i've built a lot of pc's and didn't feel like messing with it this time around. it's a good machine.
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kanye blows, the apple songs are good. sorry kanye is all you have, 2008!
LOL- I knew Saul'd throw up. it's pretty slick.
It's cool for awhile.
as much as you don't want to admit it, it's a computer just like your pc is one. it's ironic that a nerd like yourself would give a linux based system such drama. the machine will outperform everything else in its class, and that's why i ultimately decided on it. i've been banging around on computers since my first commodore 64 and honestly i'm sick of microsoft crap and want to learn something new.
It's an overpriced toy with an OS based on UNIX, not Linux. I really don't have much of a problem with the Mac OS either for that matter, it's stable but it's difficult to tweak, doesn't give you many options and software is limited when compared to PC.
The hardware however is overpriced and properitary which drives me crazy. I can build my own PC but good luck trying to build a MAC. :shy:
it's a toy and not a computer? i thought it was a computer, i must have missed something.
meh, i meant unix. linux rocks unix, you knew what i meant. and ya, the hw is for the most part properitary but so is most of dell's crap. i guess in the end i felt like i've built a lot of pc's and didn't feel like messing with it this time around. it's a good machine.
Wife has a MacBook that I bought her for v-day awhile back, no problems w/ it. Agree Dell is alot of prop. stuff but not nearly as much, mainly just motherboard, powersupply. I can throw any old CD/DVD drive, hard drive, video card, etc in to a dell, not so with a Mac.
I don't play w/ Linux too much, don't really have the time or inclination. My job focuses on Windows so that is what I use, but i'll point out that Microsoft has crappy QA, just look at Vista and the 360! :curse:
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microsoft does a good job of being proprietary as well :shy:
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microsoft does a good job of being proprietary as well :shy:
They are largely responsible for my paycheck. :billypopcorn:
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Has anyone noticed that all the apple commercials choose to use the worst songs of all time to promote their products?
I tried to do handstands for you, for YOUUOHHHOOHHUUUUUOHHHUUUUUOHUUUUU.
until kanye west starts promoting apple, they're no way near picking the worst songs of all time.
Wow, was able to get two ridiculously incorrect posts in one quote. QFF
was just commenting last night how catchy the ipod 'mercials are.
Also, Kanye is the tits. Sorry 1994!
apple does have catchy music in its commercials. sorry that the music is too soft for you rundown. Its probably pretty hard to pedal shiny pretty objects with St. Anger in the background.
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Anand agrees with me 8-) (http://www.anandtech.com/systems/showdoc.aspx?i=3446&p=1)
great article on all-in-one's. he compared my machine to a similar intel pc build from dell.
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Anand agrees with me 8-) (http://www.anandtech.com/systems/showdoc.aspx?i=3446&p=1)
great article on all-in-one's. he compared my machine to a similar intel pc build from dell.
I agree w/ the article -
"Personally, if I were in the market for an all-in-one I'd lean towards the iMac and use Boot Camp to fill in the gaps with Vista. If I were in a dorm room and wanted Blu-ray support, a basic TV tuner and wanted a Vista Media Center PC though, I'd gladly take the Dell XPS One 24 as an option. "
All-in-ones though, for me, are pretty :flush:
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one of the points of his article was that a-i-1s have come a long way, I understand your viewpoint but they aren't yesterday's imac's either. pretty surprising how the imac was rated higher for gaming, interesting for an apple.
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one of the points of his article was that a-i-1s have come a long way, I understand your viewpoint but they aren't yesterday's imac's either. pretty surprising how the imac was rated higher for gaming, interesting for an apple.
But like the PS3, "good luck finding games for it!!!" :blindfold:
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one of the points of his article was that a-i-1s have come a long way, I understand your viewpoint but they aren't yesterday's imac's either. pretty surprising how the imac was rated higher for gaming, interesting for an apple.
But like the PS3, "good luck finding games for it!!!" :blindfold:
ever hear of Boot Camp?
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one of the points of his article was that a-i-1s have come a long way, I understand your viewpoint but they aren't yesterday's imac's either. pretty surprising how the imac was rated higher for gaming, interesting for an apple.
But like the PS3, "good luck finding games for it!!!" :blindfold:
ever hear of Boot Camp?
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one of the points of his article was that a-i-1s have come a long way, I understand your viewpoint but they aren't yesterday's imac's either. pretty surprising how the imac was rated higher for gaming, interesting for an apple.
But like the PS3, "good luck finding games for it!!!" :blindfold:
ever hear of Boot Camp?
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talk to me chief-
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Well, sounds like Steve Jobs is gonna die soon.
PROLLY HAS THE AIDS (http://gizmodo.com/5120687/steve-jobs-health-declining-rapidly-reason-for-macworld-cancellation?skyline=true&s=x)
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(http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h137/KingslyZissou/smileys/maclove.gif)
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Well, sounds like Steve Jobs is gonna die soon.
PROLLY HAS THE AIDS (http://gizmodo.com/5120687/steve-jobs-health-declining-rapidly-reason-for-macworld-cancellation?skyline=true&s=x)
:dancin: I HATE Steve Jobs and his mindless Apple fanboys
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Well, sounds like Steve Jobs is gonna die soon.
PROLLY HAS THE AIDS (http://gizmodo.com/5120687/steve-jobs-health-declining-rapidly-reason-for-macworld-cancellation?skyline=true&s=x)
:dancin: I HATE Steve Jobs and his mindless Apple fanboys
I hate people who have no idea why Apple is better than your crappy PC.
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Well, sounds like Steve Jobs is gonna die soon.
PROLLY HAS THE AIDS (http://gizmodo.com/5120687/steve-jobs-health-declining-rapidly-reason-for-macworld-cancellation?skyline=true&s=x)
:dancin: I HATE Steve Jobs and his mindless Apple fanboys
I hate people who have no idea why Apple is better than your crappy PC.
I hate people who get in fights about their chosen computer/OS. They all message board braus :dunno:
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Well, sounds like Steve Jobs is gonna die soon.
PROLLY HAS THE AIDS (http://gizmodo.com/5120687/steve-jobs-health-declining-rapidly-reason-for-macworld-cancellation?skyline=true&s=x)
:dancin: I HATE Steve Jobs and his mindless Apple fanboys
I hate people who have no idea why Apple is better than your crappy PC.
Wearing a mock turtle neck or are you going for the gold?
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(http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/2009/20090130.jpg)
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I've had zero issues with any PC I've ever owned. 75 years and 347 PCs and absolutely no probs. Each has also included hidden compartments full of gold nuggets and jewels. I've owned 46 apple computers and each have been completely buggy and faulty to the point of un-useability. Also, each apple had a live cocked-and-loaded skunk living inside ready to spray me in the face the first time I started them up. Just fyi d00ds.
agreed!