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Title: 14 players who did not pass Prince's "condiitioning test"
Post by: PowercatPosse on August 06, 2006, 06:02:18 PM
Wafford
Hafferty
Spexarth
Bedore
Unruh
Frieson
Boss
Rooker
Echols
Moran
Moriera
Watts
Anders
Garvin

8 OL and 2 DL in that group. 
Title: Re: 14 players who did not pass Prince's "condiitioning test"
Post by: PowercatPosse on August 06, 2006, 06:03:32 PM
Those 14 can't practice til they pass their conditioning test.   Get to work boys.  Prince is no Mr Softy.
Title: Re: 14 players who did not pass Prince's "condiitioning test"
Post by: michigancat on August 06, 2006, 06:22:49 PM
Holy crap.

Who needs an OL or RB, anyway?

Wasn't Watts practicing, too?
Title: Re: 14 players who did not pass Prince's "condiitioning test"
Post by: fatty fat fat on August 06, 2006, 06:24:34 PM
Quote from: PowercatPosse on August 06, 2006, 06:02:18 PM
Wafford
Hafferty
Spexarth
Bedore
Unruh
Frieson
Boss
Rooker
Echols
Moran
Moriera
Watts
Anders
Garvin

8 OL and 2 DL in that group. 

Good move by Prince. These guys need to get their crap together.
Title: Re: 14 players who did not pass Prince's "condiitioning test"
Post by: michigancat on August 06, 2006, 06:26:22 PM
http://www.kansas.com/mld/kansas/sports/15208791.htm

wtf?
Title: Re: 14 players who did not pass Prince's "condiitioning test"
Post by: fatty fat fat on August 06, 2006, 06:32:51 PM
crap.
Title: Re: 14 players who did not pass Prince's "condiitioning test"
Post by: catsfan20012002 on August 06, 2006, 07:25:11 PM
Wafford
Hafferty
Spexarth
Bedore
Unruh
Frieson
Boss
Rooker
Echols
Moran
Moriera
Watts
Anders
Garvin

Do you have proof of this?
Title: Re: 14 players who did not pass Prince's "condiitioning test"
Post by: GoldbrickGangBoss on August 06, 2006, 07:36:38 PM
Quote from: Rusty on August 06, 2006, 06:26:22 PM
http://www.kansas.com/mld/kansas/sports/15208791.htm

wtf?

 :peek:
Title: Re: 14 players who did not pass Prince's "condiitioning test"
Post by: PowercatPosse on August 06, 2006, 08:07:24 PM
KC sports station reported that there were 14 players that did not pass this test.  They did not give any names, so i am not 100 percent if they are all accurate.  Another poster rattled off the names, but with no link, so take it for what it is worth.
Title: Re: 14 players who did not pass Prince's "condiitioning test"
Post by: GoldbrickGangBoss on August 06, 2006, 08:26:37 PM
Quote from: PowercatPosse on August 06, 2006, 08:07:24 PM
KC sports station reported that there were 14 players that did not pass this test.  They did not give any names, so i am not 100 percent if they are all accurate.  Another poster rattled off the names, but with no link, so take it for what it is worth.

Catfan said it was a correct list.

Title: Re: 14 players who did not pass Prince's "condiitioning test"
Post by: ksuno1stunner on August 06, 2006, 08:47:02 PM
ksuno1stunner = concerned
Title: Re: 14 players who did not pass Prince's "condiitioning test"
Post by: PowercatPosse on August 06, 2006, 08:56:32 PM
One thing i think that was reported false is that the players can practice, just not with the first teamers.  They made it sound like those 14 guys would not be practicing at all, which does not appear to be the case now.
Title: Re: 14 players who did not pass Prince's "condiitioning test"
Post by: WILDCAT NATION on August 07, 2006, 09:42:17 AM
Welcome to High School football.

Title: Re: 14 players who did not pass Prince's "condiitioning test"
Post by: michigancat on August 07, 2006, 09:52:58 AM
According to the Salina Journal, players that failed were only allowed to practice Saturday.

I really don't know what to make of the entire thing.
Title: Re: 14 players who did not pass Prince's "condiitioning test"
Post by: PoetWarrior on August 07, 2006, 10:05:45 AM
Donnie Anders
Michael Frieson
John Hafferty
Brad Rooker
Gerard Spexarth

Passed on Sunday
Title: Re: 14 players who did not pass Prince's "condiitioning test"
Post by: catsfan20012002 on August 07, 2006, 10:40:28 AM
I hate to say it but this list is accurate.
Title: Re: 14 players who did not pass Prince's "condiitioning test"
Post by: PurpleReign on August 07, 2006, 11:48:00 AM
Watts has had a busted hip.  Rehab is a long process Prince should know this.  I can not believe they wouldn't cut him a little bit of slack.
Title: Re: 14 players who did not pass Prince's "condiitioning test"
Post by: Andy on August 07, 2006, 12:15:27 PM
Quote from: PurpleReign on August 07, 2006, 11:48:00 AM
Watts has had a busted hip.  Rehab is a long process Prince should know this.  I can not believe they wouldn't cut him a little bit of slack.

i think they are but isn't kyle williams with the 1st team now anyway?

Title: Re: 14 players who did not pass Prince's "condiitioning test"
Post by: 97cat on August 07, 2006, 12:36:14 PM
Kyle Williams is with the 1st team, but he is a strong safety, wheras Watts is a free safety

I don't think Coach Prince is doing this to "punish" anyone, but to make sure no one gets heat exhaustion. It isn;t a shocker that so many lineman struggled, but it is a shocker that WR Moreira, RB Anders, & CB Garvin, all 4.4 (or faster) guys did!
Title: Re: 14 players who did not pass Prince's "condiitioning test"
Post by: WILDCAT NATION on August 07, 2006, 01:37:12 PM
Quote from: 97cat on August 07, 2006, 12:36:14 PM

 but to make sure no one gets heat exhaustion.

Now that would be extremely flawed logic.

Title: Re: 14 players who did not pass Prince's "condiitioning test"
Post by: michigancat on August 07, 2006, 01:42:15 PM
Quote from: WILDCAT NATION on August 07, 2006, 01:37:12 PM
Quote from: 97cat on August 07, 2006, 12:36:14 PM

 but to make sure no one gets heat exhaustion.

Now that would be extremely flawed logic.



Agreed...it sounds like this is the same test that's always been given...it's only now that the results are being made public.
Title: Re: 14 players who did not pass Prince's "condiitioning test"
Post by: fatty fat fat on August 07, 2006, 01:49:57 PM
Quote from: WILDCAT NATION on August 07, 2006, 01:37:12 PM
Quote from: 97cat on August 07, 2006, 12:36:14 PM

 but to make sure no one gets heat exhaustion.

Now that would be extremely flawed logic.



You have no brain. It's not there.
Title: Re: 14 players who did not pass Prince's "condiitioning test"
Post by: pissclams on August 07, 2006, 01:51:16 PM
You would think these guys would be doing everything they could to show up in the best shape of their lives, trying to win some time on the field.  Freakin' prima donnas probably been shoveling down KATPAKs all summer long and swinging off of roofs with hotmops.
 :ku:
Title: Re: 14 players who did not pass Prince's "condiitioning test"
Post by: fatty fat fat on August 07, 2006, 01:52:50 PM
Quote
Freakin' prima donnas probably been shoveling down KATPAKs all summer long

 :lol:
Title: Re: 14 players who did not pass Prince's "condiitioning test"
Post by: Andy on August 07, 2006, 02:59:58 PM
Quote from: 97cat on August 07, 2006, 12:36:14 PM
but it is a shocker that WR Moreira, RB Anders, & CB Garvin, all 4.4 (or faster) guys did!


i'm not shocked about moreira
Title: Re: 14 players who did not pass Prince's "condiitioning test"
Post by: ds43fan on August 07, 2006, 08:59:55 PM
Quote from: PowercatPosse on August 06, 2006, 06:02:18 PM
Moriera
Watts
Garvin 
OH F*CK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: 14 players who did not pass Prince's "condiitioning test"
Post by: chum1 on August 07, 2006, 10:59:52 PM
You mean some players showed up out of shape?  No way.  This news is almost as shocking as the news that roughly ten percent of the team is having academic issues.  I was totally expecting our team to be anomalous in each of these regards.

Title: Re: 14 players who did not pass Prince's "condiitioning test"
Post by: purplecobra on August 08, 2006, 05:59:26 AM
so much for all those bs stories we  have been getting shoved down our throats about how Prince is doing a great job motivating the team and what not.  A m otivated team, a team that is excited and wants to win doesn't have nearly 1 out of 5 players show up so out of shape they can't pass the physical.

and by the way, there is so really really bad sh8t coming down the pike.  I have  word from a really good source that several more players are about ready to quit, one is a qb, the other is  our vip player on offense.  I won't give out any names to protect them but the bottom line is that they all hate prince.  If any of these defections come to pass we are looking at 3-4 win year at best.
Title: Re: 14 players who did not pass Prince's "condiitioning test"
Post by: chum1 on August 08, 2006, 06:28:18 AM
Quote from: purplecobra on August 08, 2006, 05:59:26 AM
so much for all those bs stories we have been getting shoved down our throats about how Prince is doing a great job motivating the team and what not.

Which stories?

Quote from: purplecobra on August 08, 2006, 05:59:26 AM
A m otivated team, a team that is excited and wants to win doesn't have nearly 1 out of 5 players show up so out of shape they can't pass the physical.

Link?

Title: Re: 14 players who did not pass Prince's "condiitioning test"
Post by: michigancat on August 08, 2006, 07:02:07 AM
Quote from: purplecobra on August 08, 2006, 05:59:26 AM
and by the way, there is so really really bad sh8t coming down the pike.  I have  word from a really good source that several more players are about ready to quit, one is a qb, the other is  our vip player on offense.  I won't give out any names to protect them but the bottom line is that they all hate prince.  If any of these defections come to pass we are looking at 3-4 win year at best.

Dude, the news about Harrison Beck is already out.
Title: Re: 14 players who did not pass Prince's "condiitioning test"
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 08, 2006, 09:20:57 AM
That would be a first, a new coaching staff, and guys from the old regime quitting.

That's never happened at any other program in the history of college football.

Back in 1989, you needed a calculator to add up all the guys that quit under Snyder's methods.

Title: Re: 14 players who did not pass Prince's "condiitioning test"
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 08, 2006, 01:26:52 PM
NU fans get duped by a hoax emal.

Cornholes ... riding shotgun on the last train to Tardsville.

Title: Re: 14 players who did not pass Prince's "condiitioning test"
Post by: GoldbrickGangBoss on August 08, 2006, 01:32:11 PM
If you signed on to play for Snyder... and he retires... and Prince moves in giving the place the complete opposite feel... would you stick around?
Title: Re: 14 players who did not pass Prince's "condiitioning test"
Post by: pissclams on August 08, 2006, 01:35:18 PM
Not if I could be starting at Florida, Florida State, or Miami...
Title: Re: 14 players who did not pass Prince's "condiitioning test"
Post by: GoldbrickGangBoss on August 08, 2006, 01:54:51 PM
Quote from: pissclams on August 08, 2006, 01:35:18 PM
Not if I could be starting at Florida, Florida State, or Miami...

Is this a possible option for even a single one of your players?
Title: Re: 14 players who did not pass Prince's "condiitioning test"
Post by: catsfan20012002 on August 08, 2006, 03:56:17 PM
http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/sports/15221646.htm

Nine players, including wide receiver Jermaine Moreira, safety Marcus Watts and offensive lineman Greg Wafford, still must pass a conditioning test before they will be allowed to practice with the Kansas State football team, it was announced Monday.

Five players who flunked the first test passed it Sunday: Running back Donnie Anders and offensive linemen Michael Frieson, John Hafferty, Brad Rooker and Gerard Spexarth. The nine who have to pass the test were scheduled to get another crack at it Monday, but results won’t be available until today.
Title: Re: 14 players who did not pass Prince's "condiitioning test"
Post by: PoetWarrior on August 08, 2006, 04:44:06 PM
Quote from: catsfan20012002 on August 08, 2006, 03:56:17 PM
http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/sports/15221646.htm

Nine players, including wide receiver Jermaine Moreira, safety Marcus Watts and offensive lineman Greg Wafford, still must pass a conditioning test before they will be allowed to practice with the Kansas State football team, it was announced Monday.

Five players who flunked the first test passed it Sunday: Running back Donnie Anders and offensive linemen Michael Frieson, John Hafferty, Brad Rooker and Gerard Spexarth. The nine who have to pass the test were scheduled to get another crack at it Monday, but results won’t be available until today.

Echols
Boss
Garvin
Moreira

Passed on Monday...5 left...
Title: Re: 14 players who did not pass Prince's "condiitioning test"
Post by: ds43fan on August 08, 2006, 07:31:43 PM
COMMON WATTS!!! AND JJ GET YOUR AS$ BACK INTO THAT CLASS ROOM AND
GET-R-DONE!!
Title: Re: 14 players who did not pass Prince's "condiitioning test"
Post by: Andy on August 08, 2006, 10:53:50 PM
Quote from: GoldbrickGangBoss on August 08, 2006, 01:54:51 PM
Quote from: pissclams on August 08, 2006, 01:35:18 PM
Not if I could be starting at Florida, Florida State, or Miami...

Is this a possible option for even a single one of your players?

or ku's?

i'm trying to figure out how players do conditioning drills for someone like mangino
Title: Re: 14 players who did not pass Prince's "condiitioning test"
Post by: 97cat on August 09, 2006, 05:43:57 AM


 but to make sure no one gets heat exhaustion.
Quote

Now that would be extremely flawed logic.


Quote

Not sure I follow you, wildcat nation

Coach Prince discussed that he didn't want any of the players who weren't physically ready to particpate in any type of drills, especially here in Kansas, where it reaches well over 100 degrees! Coach Prince wanted to make sure that each player was "battle tested" and could take on the drills head and on, and keep the times he requested. If not, then they were "out of shape", and shouldn't be practicing in drills with this kind of weather. Where do you see the flawed logic?
Title: Re: 14 players who did not pass Prince's "condiitioning test"
Post by: PoetWarrior on August 09, 2006, 11:10:31 AM
Watts

Passed tuesday.

4 left...
Title: Re: 14 players who did not pass Prince's "condiitioning test"
Post by: MrWhite on August 09, 2006, 11:41:18 AM
hate to rain on everyone's piss parade, but it's amazing to me that only 4 players on the entire roster have not been able to pass the test.

i figured 10-12 would be limited by some kind of injury at this point.  worst case is only 4 players are injured right now.  and that's the absolute worst case.

not shabby.
Title: Re: 14 players who did not pass Prince's "condiitioning test"
Post by: plainsanimal on August 09, 2006, 11:43:24 AM
  I bet who ever is on the stopwatch today will be late starting it.
Title: Re: 14 players who did not pass Prince's "condiitioning test"
Post by: Stillwater Cat on August 09, 2006, 11:52:52 AM
(http://www.assistireland.ie/uploadedfiles/Product_Images/Healthcare_Products/Assessment,_Test_Equipment/Economy_Stopwatch_HCA_(2815).jpg)
Title: Re: 14 players who did not pass Prince's "condiitioning test"
Post by: catsfan20012002 on August 09, 2006, 06:43:31 PM
According to tonight's Mercury.....

You can cross Watts' name off the list.
Title: Re: 14 players who did not pass Prince's "condiitioning test"
Post by: PoetWarrior on August 10, 2006, 09:39:30 AM
Bedore

Passed on Wednesday.

3 left...
Title: Re: 14 players who did not pass Prince's "condiitioning test"
Post by: ds43fan on August 10, 2006, 11:32:52 AM
Quote from: PoetWarrior on August 09, 2006, 11:10:31 AM
Watts

Passed tuesday.

4 left...
thank God, good job Watts way to
GET-R-DONE!!!
now James Johsnon accedimicly FOR THE LOVE OF GOD
GET-R-DONE GET-R-DONE GET-R-DONE GET-R-DONE GET-R-DONE-GET-R-DONE GET-R-DONE GET-R-DONE GET-R-DONE GET-R-DONE GET-R-DONE GET-R-DONE GET-R-DONE GET-R-DONE GET-R-DONE GET-R-DONE GET-R-DONE GET-R-DONE GET-R-DONE GET-R-DONE GET-R-DONE
Title: Re: 14 players who did not pass Prince's "condiitioning test"
Post by: Andy on August 10, 2006, 02:37:59 PM
Quote from: PoetWarrior on August 10, 2006, 09:39:30 AM
Bedore

Passed on Wednesday.

3 left...

good now maybe he can work his way off the 3rd team???    :confused:  (according to kcstar today)
Title: Re: 14 players who did not pass Prince's "condiitioning test"
Post by: PoetWarrior on August 11, 2006, 10:05:48 AM
Unruh

Passed Thursday.

2 left...
Title: Re: 14 players who did not pass Prince's "condiitioning test"
Post by: Stillwater Cat on August 11, 2006, 10:18:38 AM
batteries must be getting low on that stopwatch.
Title: Re: 14 players who did not pass Prince's "condiitioning test"
Post by: catsfan20012002 on August 11, 2006, 06:29:11 PM
I'm worried about the number of OL and DL guys that were, and still are, on the list. It's cliche but football games are won in the trenches (up front).
Title: Re: 14 players who did not pass Prince's "condiitioning test"
Post by: Andy on August 11, 2006, 06:31:57 PM
i'm guessing last season it was much much worse. 
Title: Re: 14 players who did not pass Prince's "condiitioning test"
Post by: catsfan20012002 on August 11, 2006, 09:26:57 PM
At least Prince is trying to make it better. I like the accountability he's making the players have.
Title: Re: 14 players who did not pass Prince's "condiitioning test"
Post by: PoetWarrior on August 16, 2006, 03:58:34 PM
Wafford

Passed Today

1 left...
Title: Re: 14 players who did not pass Prince's "condiitioning test"
Post by: Andy on August 16, 2006, 03:59:47 PM
good to see the team captain on board after a week and a half.
Title: Re: 14 players who did not pass Prince's "condiitioning test"
Post by: PoetWarrior on August 17, 2006, 04:30:55 PM
Moran

Passed today.

0 left...

Hooray!
Title: Re: 14 players who did not pass Prince's "condiitioning test"
Post by: WildCatzPhreak on August 17, 2006, 06:57:02 PM
:forked: DIE PUP DIE :chainsaw: