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Donations are no longer being accepted. PM me if you have any questions. I will provide more information when it becomes available. One way or another, our community will still be alive.
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He's selling you the domain for $2500?
What a sonofabitch.
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How long do we have to meet the goal? We need a cat pak'r at the K on a weekend to raise money. Can we talk Ma Beaz into donating the money when Mike gets his kerbillions?
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How long do we have to meet the goal? We need a cat pak'r at the K on a weekend to raise money. Can we talk Ma Beaz into donating the money when Mike gets his kerbillions?
May 15th is the target date. One month.
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Yikes, thats a pretty short amount of time to get that much cash.
You'll get $10 from me. Maybe more depending on the finances.
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This is terrible.
I will donate when we get over $1000
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Seriously, f*ck MJ, start over on a new domain.
I'd much prefer to support $$$ to that cause.
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theksufans.com?
purplepride.com LOL!
any others?
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OctagonofDoom.com
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2500 for just the domain? That seems like a lot for a site that is going to "die"? Can you please give more info on the transition between admins and more info on the biz model?
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is the 2500 is more for mj recouping his loses over time running the site? or just standard domain buying like purchasing google, etc...?
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yeah, i want to know exactly what we get for the $2500.
If it isn't the board software and other tangible things, then f him and grab emaw.com (it is for sale).
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2500 for just the domain? That seems like a lot for a site that is going to "die"? Can you please give more info on the transition between admins and more info on the biz model?
The price is dictated on startup costs for the new site, and potential revenue that this site brings in. This site generates ad revenues, that will be used to sustain the "new" site - and fund KSUFANS tailgates/parties, contests, give-aways, etc, like I posted above. I'd like it to rely completely on ads and not donations.
As for the transition between admins, I have not decided on that yet. I will run the site, and likely keep some of the current staff (those who wish to stay on board).
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If we fail in sustaining the site then we can expect our money back, yes?
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yeah, i want to know exactly what we get for the $2500.
If it isn't the board software and other tangible things, then f him and grab emaw.com (it is for sale).
It is the board software. Once its transferred to me, I run the show.
Tangible things - like I said, parties/tailgates, give-aways (like score pick em contests for gift cards), subscriptions to hustler, raffles, and to offset the cost of KSUFANS merchandise (so perhaps shirts wont cost 20 bucks).
I have other ideas too, but none of them that would limit the sites growth potential.
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If we fail in sustaining the site then we can expect our money back, yes?
Absolutely. If we fail to meet the goal, I will refund your payments.
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yeah, i want to know exactly what we get for the $2500.
If it isn't the board software and other tangible things, then f him and grab emaw.com (it is for sale).
It is the board software. Once its transferred to me, I run the show.
Tangible things - like I said, parties/tailgates, give-aways (like score pick em contests for gift cards), subscriptions to hustler, raffles, and to offset the cost of KSUFANS merchandise (so perhaps shirts wont cost 20 bucks).
I have other ideas too, but none of them that would limit the sites growth potential.
Scanned and put on the site for the big time donors?
:hope:
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yeah, i want to know exactly what we get for the $2500.
If it isn't the board software and other tangible things, then f him and grab emaw.com (it is for sale).
It is the board software. Once its transferred to me, I run the show.
Tangible things - like I said, parties/tailgates, give-aways (like score pick em contests for gift cards), subscriptions to hustler, raffles, and to offset the cost of KSUFANS merchandise (so perhaps shirts wont cost 20 bucks).
I have other ideas too, but none of them that would limit the sites growth potential.
Scanned and put on the site for the big time donors?
:hope:
We could name a board after you. :fatty:
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yeah, i want to know exactly what we get for the $2500.
If it isn't the board software and other tangible things, then f him and grab emaw.com (it is for sale).
It is the board software. Once its transferred to me, I run the show.
Tangible things - like I said, parties/tailgates, give-aways (like score pick em contests for gift cards), subscriptions to hustler, raffles, and to offset the cost of KSUFANS merchandise (so perhaps shirts wont cost 20 bucks).
I have other ideas too, but none of them that would limit the sites growth potential.
Scanned and put on the site for the big time donors?
:hope:
We could name a board after you. :fatty:
How much money would I have to donate to rename The Endzone Dive to Waks's Waterhole?
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2500 for just the domain? That seems like a lot for a site that is going to "die"? Can you please give more info on the transition between admins and more info on the biz model?
The price is dictated on startup costs for the new site, and potential revenue that this site brings in.
SMF is a free discussion board software package that webmasters can download and install on their own websites.
So why not just wait till his rights to the domian expire? I understand there is going to be some cost to the site, hardware, your time, more computer gear. I am looking for more info on where the money is going.
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yeah, i want to know exactly what we get for the $2500.
If it isn't the board software and other tangible things, then f him and grab emaw.com (it is for sale).
It is the board software. Once its transferred to me, I run the show.
Tangible things - like I said, parties/tailgates, give-aways (like score pick em contests for gift cards), subscriptions to hustler, raffles, and to offset the cost of KSUFANS merchandise (so perhaps shirts wont cost 20 bucks).
I have other ideas too, but none of them that would limit the sites growth potential.
Scanned and put on the site for the big time donors?
:hope:
We could name a board after you. :fatty:
How much money would I have to donate to rename The Endzone Dive to Waks's Waterhole?
Let's just say I know how much $$$ you have....well, at least have a good idea. :tongue:
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yeah, i want to know exactly what we get for the $2500.
If it isn't the board software and other tangible things, then f him and grab emaw.com (it is for sale).
It is the board software. Once its transferred to me, I run the show.
Tangible things - like I said, parties/tailgates, give-aways (like score pick em contests for gift cards), subscriptions to hustler, raffles, and to offset the cost of KSUFANS merchandise (so perhaps shirts wont cost 20 bucks).
I have other ideas too, but none of them that would limit the sites growth potential.
Scanned and put on the site for the big time donors?
:hope:
We could name a board after you. :fatty:
QFMFT !
Anyways, Classless Cats could host stuff like that !
:jeffy: :jeffy: :jeffy: :jeffy:
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2500 for just the domain? That seems like a lot for a site that is going to "die"? Can you please give more info on the transition between admins and more info on the biz model?
The price is dictated on startup costs for the new site, and potential revenue that this site brings in.
SMF is a free discussion board software package that webmasters can download and install on their own websites.
So why not just wait till his rights to the domian expire? I understand there is going to be some cost to the site, hardware, your time, more computer gear. I am looking for more info on where the money is going.
The domain isn't expiring anytime soon. Most of the money is going to buy the actual site, because of the revenue it generates from ads. Like I said, that revenue will be used for things to improve the site.
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2500 for just the domain? That seems like a lot for a site that is going to "die"? Can you please give more info on the transition between admins and more info on the biz model?
The price is dictated on startup costs for the new site, and potential revenue that this site brings in.
SMF is a free discussion board software package that webmasters can download and install on their own websites.
So why not just wait till his rights to the domian expire? I understand there is going to be some cost to the site, hardware, your time, more computer gear. I am looking for more info on where the money is going.
The domain isn't expiring anytime soon. Most of the money is going to buy the actual site, because of the revenue it generates from ads. Like I said, that revenue will be used for things to improve the site.
understoond. If the site is generating X revenue and the 2500 is to cover the cost I got that. Is the site currently running in the red? Would you like further info like this to be asked in PM?
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yeah, i want to know exactly what we get for the $2500.
If it isn't the board software and other tangible things, then f him and grab emaw.com (it is for sale).
It is the board software. Once its transferred to me, I run the show.
Tangible things - like I said, parties/tailgates, give-aways (like score pick em contests for gift cards), subscriptions to hustler, raffles, and to offset the cost of KSUFANS merchandise (so perhaps shirts wont cost 20 bucks).
I have other ideas too, but none of them that would limit the sites growth potential.
Scanned and put on the site for the big time donors?
:hope:
We could name a board after you. :fatty:
How much money would I have to donate to rename The Endzone Dive to Waks's Waterhole?
Let's just say I know how much $$$ you have....well, at least have a good idea. :tongue:
I need figures Solomon. PM?
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Is this a joke? how many posts are there a day? Seriously, it isn't like this is some top 100 frickin site. I could run this message board from my basement if I got a tad more pipe.
2500 dollars from this group? You are kidding your self. Good luck with that.
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The entire plan should be spelled out here. Every dollar. If $2500 is shown to be truly necessary to keep things running, people will donate without hesitation.
Transparency.
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2500?? WHAT?!?!?
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The entire plan should be spelled out here. Every dollar. If $2500 is shown to be truly necessary to keep things running, people will donate without hesitation.
Transparency.
$2000 of it is going to the current owner of this site for ownership of the domain name, the ksufans.com brand, and ownership of the Google AdSense account for ad revenues. This will be put in my name, and I will account for every penny of it to make sure it goes back in to the site. I will not resell it afterwards under any circumstances. I don't think their is a better way to do this.
$500 is going towards pre-paying for our new host. Despite what some may think, this site uses alot of bandwidth and CPU time, and if we want fast, reliable performance, it'll cost.
Setting up a new site, is of course an option in my mind. However, it will just raise the same concerns down the road, because someone has to pay for the server and bandwidth, it's not free.
Of course, i'm all ears.
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I think we should call Fitz and ask for a donation, just for kicks.
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so is the site right now in its current form in the red or black?
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who would mj sell the domain to if we start a new site?
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The domain just doesn't seem worth $2k.
$500 for a completely new site sounds great.
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The entire plan should be spelled out here. Every dollar. If $2500 is shown to be truly necessary to keep things running, people will donate without hesitation.
Transparency.
$2000 of it is going to the current owner of this site for ownership of the domain name, the ksufans.com brand, and ownership of the Google AdSense account for ad revenues. This will be put in my name, and I will account for every penny of it to make sure it goes back in to the site. I will not resell it afterwards under any circumstances. I don't think their is a better way to do this.
$500 is going towards pre-paying for our new host. Despite what some may think, this site uses alot of bandwidth and CPU time, and if we want fast, reliable performance, it'll cost.
Setting up a new site, is of course an option in my mind. However, it will just raise the same concerns down the road, because someone has to pay for the server and bandwidth, it's not free.
Of course, i'm all ears.
Is the $500 host fee the same whether it stays ksufans.com or you start a new site from scratch?
As opposed to the $2000 to keep it ksufans.com, how much would it take to start up a new site with the same software and a google ad thing to keep $ coming in - enough to make it self-sufficient with no frills? Alternatively, how much would you need just to keep it running with no ads or anything?
I'm guessing the major benefit to paying the $2K to buy ksufans.com is to keep the post history/archives?
I have a domain name already, fwiw.
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The domain just doesn't seem worth $2k.
$500 for a completely new site sounds great.
What if we can get the $2500 though?
As for a new site, i'm not sure I want to go that direction yet. I like what we have here, and I like that I can go back 2 years and find awesome posts. :'(
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Do the math, 2500 is impossible.
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The entire plan should be spelled out here. Every dollar. If $2500 is shown to be truly necessary to keep things running, people will donate without hesitation.
Transparency.
$2000 of it is going to the current owner of this site for ownership of the domain name, the ksufans.com brand, and ownership of the Google AdSense account for ad revenues. This will be put in my name, and I will account for every penny of it to make sure it goes back in to the site. I will not resell it afterwards under any circumstances. I don't think their is a better way to do this.
$500 is going towards pre-paying for our new host. Despite what some may think, this site uses alot of bandwidth and CPU time, and if we want fast, reliable performance, it'll cost.
Setting up a new site, is of course an option in my mind. However, it will just raise the same concerns down the road, because someone has to pay for the server and bandwidth, it's not free.
Of course, i'm all ears.
Is the $500 host fee the same whether it stays ksufans.com or you start a new site from scratch?
As opposed to the $2000 to keep it ksufans.com, how much would it take to start up a new site with the same software and a google ad thing to keep $ coming in - enough to make it self-sufficient with no frills? Alternatively, how much would you need just to keep it running with no ads or anything?
I'm guessing the major benefit to paying the $2K to buy ksufans.com is to keep the post history/archives?
I have a domain name already, fwiw.
The ad revenues would not be the same. There would be a significant drop in membership base, and viewings. It took us over 2 years to get where we are now. If we keep the same site, we would recoup the initial costs, and then some, within the same time period. (2 years)
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who would mj sell the domain to if we start a new site?
Yeah, other than the fact this is being discussed openly on mj's site, it seems saul has negotiating power to lower that figure.
The ad revenues would not be the same. There would be a significant drop in membership base, and viewings. It took us over 2 years to get where we are now. If we keep the same site, we would recoup the initial costs, and then some, within the same time period. (2 years)
What I was getting at was can't you ask for donations of less than the $2K but higher than zero to offset the lost ad revenue, at least for a while?
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Here is the deal, we need to raise $2500 to keep KSUFANS alive. I figured i'd get that out of the way. I set up a Paypal account to accept donations. I will give progress updates regularly to track our goal. When the goal is reached, the domain name will be transferred to me, and the hosting services will be purchased and set up, along with the google ads. The google ads, along with any other donations should provide enough revenue to keep the site sustained for life. Any surplus money will be used for KSUFANS tailgates/parties, raffle prizes, contests, and to offset costs of producing custom KSUFANS merchandise.
The Paypal account is [email protected] . Donate however much you feel, any amount will be appreciated.
Any questions, feel free to post them in this thread. If you do not feel comfortable posting them, feel free to email me, IM me at Saulbadguy (AIM), or request my phone # in a PM and you can call me to discuss.
As are most of you, I want to keep KSUFANS around forever. As I discussed earlier, their will be few changes to the "new" site, except some of the restrictions we have will be loosened when it comes to posting content, and word censorship. Any and all other changes will be discussed by the community (you) before being approved.
Here's what I don't get, doodz. You think the ads will keep the site running, but if that were the case, why is MJ selling it? You said you want the site funded primarily by advertisements, but that didn't seem to work.
Last time I paid for this site was for premium... That didn't go so well. I just won't want to be in another donor situation in 5 months.
Fatty, 2500 is impossible to raise or for MJ to charge?
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The domain just doesn't seem worth $2k.
$500 for a completely new site sounds great.
What if we can get the $2500 though?
As for a new site, i'm not sure I want to go that direction yet. I like what we have here, and I like that I can go back 2 years and find awesome posts. :'(
Agreed on this. I like to be able to go back and look at how big of a douche I was when I first started and go back and relive the glory days that were GRCOAT.
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Ok seriously, mj is demanding 2k dollars to keep the name of the site? This is the most retarded thing I have ever seen.
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The entire plan should be spelled out here. Every dollar. If $2500 is shown to be truly necessary to keep things running, people will donate without hesitation.
Transparency.
$2000 of it is going to the current owner of this site for ownership of the domain name, the ksufans.com brand, and ownership of the Google AdSense account for ad revenues. This will be put in my name, and I will account for every penny of it to make sure it goes back in to the site. I will not resell it afterwards under any circumstances. I don't think their is a better way to do this.
$500 is going towards pre-paying for our new host. Despite what some may think, this site uses alot of bandwidth and CPU time, and if we want fast, reliable performance, it'll cost.
Setting up a new site, is of course an option in my mind. However, it will just raise the same concerns down the road, because someone has to pay for the server and bandwidth, it's not free.
Of course, i'm all ears.
Is the $500 host fee the same whether it stays ksufans.com or you start a new site from scratch?
As opposed to the $2000 to keep it ksufans.com, how much would it take to start up a new site with the same software and a google ad thing to keep $ coming in - enough to make it self-sufficient with no frills? Alternatively, how much would you need just to keep it running with no ads or anything?
I'm guessing the major benefit to paying the $2K to buy ksufans.com is to keep the post history/archives?
I have a domain name already, fwiw.
The ad revenues would not be the same. There would be a significant drop in membership base, and viewings. It took us over 2 years to get where we are now. If we keep the same site, we would recoup the initial costs, and then some, within the same time period. (2 years)
If you are really making an argument that the $2000 is seed money for ad revenue sustainability, then fine. Sell off shares and then pay people back with the revenue stream.
If mj has really been "paying out of pocket" for the site, then that would imply it is operating at or near a loss, which would negate any reason for keeping the site. If Mj has any sort of honor or sense of right/wrong he would forward users to our new site for a period of time anyway.
I'm almost more concerned with trying to keep ksufans.com not only because of the shady start up costs and high bandwidth, but because the high costs would again put us back in the situation of someone or some group assuming a great enough level of financial burden that they could see opportunity if it came and screw us all again.
Maybe starting over with everyone going in as equals and a new charter/legal partnership that prevents this crap from happening again would be better than trying to salvage (never mind the cash up front).
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Here is the deal, we need to raise $2500 to keep KSUFANS alive. I figured i'd get that out of the way. I set up a Paypal account to accept donations. I will give progress updates regularly to track our goal. When the goal is reached, the domain name will be transferred to me, and the hosting services will be purchased and set up, along with the google ads. The google ads, along with any other donations should provide enough revenue to keep the site sustained for life. Any surplus money will be used for KSUFANS tailgates/parties, raffle prizes, contests, and to offset costs of producing custom KSUFANS merchandise.
The Paypal account is [email protected] . Donate however much you feel, any amount will be appreciated.
Any questions, feel free to post them in this thread. If you do not feel comfortable posting them, feel free to email me, IM me at Saulbadguy (AIM), or request my phone # in a PM and you can call me to discuss.
As are most of you, I want to keep KSUFANS around forever. As I discussed earlier, their will be few changes to the "new" site, except some of the restrictions we have will be loosened when it comes to posting content, and word censorship. Any and all other changes will be discussed by the community (you) before being approved.
Here's what I don't get, doodz. You think the ads will keep the site running, but if that were the case, why is MJ selling it? You said you want the site funded primarily by advertisements, but that didn't seem to work.
Last time I paid for this site was for premium... That didn't go so well. I just won't want to be in another donor situation in 5 months.
Fatty, 2500 is impossible to raise or for MJ to charge?
This is a "JMO" - but this is a business decision for him. I do not know the current operating expenses for this site, but I know they are more because he hosts the site out of his home, rather than a hosting company. A hosting company would cost less. Advertising revenue would cover the cost of a hosting company's prices, but not what mjrod was incurring hosting it out of his home. Add the premium debacle in to that, and whatever other financial things he is going through, it is his decision to sell it.
So, it's either raise the $$$ for the site to keep it the way it is, or don't try at all, give up, and start a new site, which "IMO" will have similar troubles down the road. Plus, someone will have to start the site and pay for it out of their pocket, $500 in donations or not, and spend time managing it.
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The entire plan should be spelled out here. Every dollar. If $2500 is shown to be truly necessary to keep things running, people will donate without hesitation.
Transparency.
$2000 of it is going to the current owner of this site for ownership of the domain name, the ksufans.com brand, and ownership of the Google AdSense account for ad revenues. This will be put in my name, and I will account for every penny of it to make sure it goes back in to the site. I will not resell it afterwards under any circumstances. I don't think their is a better way to do this.
$500 is going towards pre-paying for our new host. Despite what some may think, this site uses alot of bandwidth and CPU time, and if we want fast, reliable performance, it'll cost.
Setting up a new site, is of course an option in my mind. However, it will just raise the same concerns down the road, because someone has to pay for the server and bandwidth, it's not free.
Of course, i'm all ears.
Is the $500 host fee the same whether it stays ksufans.com or you start a new site from scratch?
As opposed to the $2000 to keep it ksufans.com, how much would it take to start up a new site with the same software and a google ad thing to keep $ coming in - enough to make it self-sufficient with no frills? Alternatively, how much would you need just to keep it running with no ads or anything?
I'm guessing the major benefit to paying the $2K to buy ksufans.com is to keep the post history/archives?
I have a domain name already, fwiw.
The ad revenues would not be the same. There would be a significant drop in membership base, and viewings. It took us over 2 years to get where we are now. If we keep the same site, we would recoup the initial costs, and then some, within the same time period. (2 years)
If you are really making an argument that the $2000 is seed money for ad revenue sustainability, then fine. Sell off shares and then pay people back with the revenue stream.
While I think that is an excellent idea, I have not the time, nor the know how, to do such a thing.
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Ok seriously, mj is demanding 2k dollars to keep the name of the site? This is the most retarded thing I have ever seen.
I think the database is the more important thing we are trying to obtain. But really he is a douche.
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If we all went in on the site together all new and we set up a system for handling all these questions collectively by people who put up the money, then codified it in a charter or legal document to determine ownership rights and then contracted out the hosting and paid the admins a stipend to run/upkeep then it would be fine, less expensive and sustainable.
You take the advertising and all the b.s./crap that we would have to go through here. It forces mj's hand as well.
emaw.com or bust.
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What about Russ Briggs? I hear he's got some coin.
Really, is there a way to get a small donation from a Manhattan area company, or several companies? Place a banner ad at the top of the boards for a year....
I think, as someone acquiring this site, Saul, you should as to see the ledger sheet for the operation of ksufans.com, so you can actually see what's happening. This is fairly standard practice when a business is selling itself off. As potential "investors" in the company, I think it would also be wise for any of us possible donors to see what we may be getting ourselves into.
I have no problem with making a small donation, if that's what's needed, but I like to know what my money is going for specifically. You've done a decent job of explaining it, just not with the depth that some of us want. Remember that most of the people here are high school/college age, with only a small minority of us being gainfully employed. That will prove to be the major obstacle toward getting that $2500.
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If we all went in on the site together all new and we set up a system for handling all these questions collectively by people who put up the money, then codified it in a charter or legal document to determine ownership rights and then contracted out the hosting and paid the admins a stipend to run/upkeep then it would be fine, less expensive and sustainable.
You take the advertising and all the b.s./crap that we would have to go through here. It forces mj's hand as well.
emaw.com or bust.
He called my bluff, I tried to get it for free.
EMAW is for sale. I wonder how much he is charging? :frown:
Anyways, all topics of discussion in this thread are valid, if we don't raise the money, we don't raise the money, and we move on.
I just want to guarantee a place that isn't GPC/KSUFans.com - and of course, I have to show my hand, I want to run the place.
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If we all went in on the site together all new and we set up a system for handling all these questions collectively by people who put up the money, then codified it in a charter or legal document to determine ownership rights and then contracted out the hosting and paid the admins a stipend to run/upkeep then it would be fine, less expensive and sustainable.
You take the advertising and all the b.s./crap that we would have to go through here. It forces mj's hand as well.
emaw.com or bust.
You've got good ideas, but seriously, MJ won't move. He's too prideful/hates us/is a jayhawk fan now that they won. And no one here will shoulder the burden of setting up the new site.
250 people have to pay 10$. That is not that preposterous.
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I've got to get to bed. Further questions will be answered tomorrow morning. 8-)
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I do not know the current operating expenses for this site
That's a problem if you (us) are considering buying it.
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If we all went in on the site together all new and we set up a system for handling all these questions collectively by people who put up the money, then codified it in a charter or legal document to determine ownership rights and then contracted out the hosting and paid the admins a stipend to run/upkeep then it would be fine, less expensive and sustainable.
You take the advertising and all the b.s./crap that we would have to go through here. It forces mj's hand as well.
emaw.com or bust.
He called my bluff, I tried to get it for free.
EMAW is for sale. I wonder how much he is charging? :frown:
Anyways, all topics of discussion in this thread are valid, if we don't raise the money, we don't raise the money, and we move on.
I just want to guarantee a place that isn't GPC/KSUFans.com - and of course, I have to show my hand, I want to run the place.
You and only you should contact emaw to try and buy the domain. We don't want him to get us in to a bidding war with ourselves.
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This site isn't what it used to be. Too many dipsh*ts. And ksufans.com is a lousy name. So, just start up a new site on which dipsh*ts are banned for being dipsh*ts. Two birds with one stone, eh?
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What about Russ Briggs? I hear he's got some coin.
Really, is there a way to get a small donation from a Manhattan area company, or several companies? Place a banner ad at the top of the boards for a year....
I think, as someone acquiring this site, Saul, you should as to see the ledger sheet for the operation of ksufans.com, so you can actually see what's happening. This is fairly standard practice when a business is selling itself off. As potential "investors" in the company, I think it would also be wise for any of us possible donors to see what we may be getting ourselves into.
I have no problem with making a small donation, if that's what's needed, but I like to know what my money is going for specifically. You've done a decent job of explaining it, just not with the depth that some of us want. Remember that most of the people here are high school/college age, with only a small minority of us being gainfully employed. That will prove to be the major obstacle toward getting that $2500.
This is a great idea. See if hatworld or thread, or some crazy crap place we all go and waste money would do it. Maybe a bar or two in the ville.
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Also, you don't want to deal with MJ because he is clearly very bad at business. Just think of all the people who were dying for their ksufans.com coolers that he f*cked over.
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What about Russ Briggs? I hear he's got some coin.
Really, is there a way to get a small donation from a Manhattan area company, or several companies? Place a banner ad at the top of the boards for a year....
I think, as someone acquiring this site, Saul, you should as to see the ledger sheet for the operation of ksufans.com, so you can actually see what's happening. This is fairly standard practice when a business is selling itself off. As potential "investors" in the company, I think it would also be wise for any of us possible donors to see what we may be getting ourselves into.
I have no problem with making a small donation, if that's what's needed, but I like to know what my money is going for specifically. You've done a decent job of explaining it, just not with the depth that some of us want. Remember that most of the people here are high school/college age, with only a small minority of us being gainfully employed. That will prove to be the major obstacle toward getting that $2500.
This is a great idea. See if hatworld or thread, or some crazy crap place we all go and waste money would do it. Maybe a bar or two in the ville.
Businesses :love: being sponsors of places that draw the reactions Berringer thread, Stewart kneecap threat, etc. bring. :rolleyes:
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seriously. price out emaw.com, concurrently send a party of undergrads to scope out the Manhattan market for advertising and then move everyone to emaw.com and have a system where a group of shareholders determine the future of the board as opposed to one douche bag with a dream/crappy posting style.
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Saul, use the vast resources of the emaw nation. call upon bslimz/Azcat for help on the legalese.
Rotate the upkeep/moderating between you and the several other tech savvy youth that populate the board.
Have people pay money with the money buying:
1. a proportional share of votes in to decision making on board policies/matters (capped so that no one has or could have a majority of shares by themselves)
2. a proportional ownership of the site in the unlikely event that the new site is ever sold (assuming majority of shares votes this way)
3. put the capital collected towards:
A. the emaw.com (or whatever) domain name
B. bandwidth costs
C. legal/admin/IT work done by people (at reduced/volunteer type prices)
D. snazzy gadgets that better the site, are affordable and don't jeopardize the financial sustainability of the site/are voted on by majority of shareholders.
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Saul, use the vast resources of the emaw nation. call upon bslimz/Azcat for help on the legalese.
Rotate the upkeep/moderating between you and the several other tech savvy youth that populate the board.
Have people pay money with the money buying:
1. a proportional share of votes in to decision making on board policies/matters (capped so that no one has or could have a majority of shares by themselves)
2. a proportional ownership of the site in the unlikely event that the new site is ever sold (assuming majority of shares votes this way)
3. put the capital collected towards:
A. the emaw.com (or whatever) domain name
B. bandwidth costs
C. legal/admin/IT work done by people (at reduced/volunteer type prices)
D. snazzy gadgets that better the site, are affordable and don't jeopardize the financial sustainability of the site/are voted on by majority of shareholders.
I heard somewhere that Bong makes more money that any of us could ever dream of, plus he spends more time on this board than any of us anyways. . .
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Ok seriously, mj is demanding 2k dollars to keep the name of the site? This is the most retarded thing I have ever seen.
I think the database is the more important thing we are trying to obtain. But really he is a douche.
Well then I'm sorry you all have such a fragile ego when it comes to losing your post count or losing your post history...
who really cares, post counts are the most retarded contest anyways. IMO, you should do hidden post counts, which means do your 1 star through 10 stars, but then you wouldn't know how many posts it takes and it isn't so obviously hitting you in the face. Do you realize that many people don't post because of poster intimidation?
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Here is a snapshot for you..
I have a T-1 line that KSU Fans uses and since I started up the website in January 2006. The cost to operate the T-1 since then has been over $14,000.
There have been two servers that I have built to host KSU Fans on. The first server cost me $1400 to build, the second one $1800 (includes server operating system.) The Backup software to protect the database runs $900.00. KSU Fans runs on a server that has two other websites on it. The database software that contains the scoreboard and other functions costs $500.00. MySQL, PHP, SMF Forum, and Joomla Software that you see for the site is free.
I could not put KSU Fans on a server that had multiple websites because the CPU demand is too high and would affect my other customers.
If you consider that I spend about 10 hours a week on here to do administrative function such as answering e-mail, maintenance on the site, maintenance on the server, replacing backup discs, and general operations, and at the rate I charge my normal customers, that works to $850.00 a week.
If you count the hours I've spent working configuring the software, making graphics, doing the look and feel, setting up the scoreboards and addressing specific issues with users that have problems with the site, then I can add another 63 hours or $5355 of time spent.
The attempt to do KSU Fans Premium raised a little over $750.00 for the website and was intended to provide a stream of revenue to help offset the costs I was incurring just running the site. Remember, it didn't generate any money for a year and a half and was more of a hobby, but there is still the cost involved of just running it. At the time, I had set up with an individual who said he had inside info and we worked out a handshake deal to get him to provide that info. However, that failed and therefore the value of the premium was no longer there, despite me having to provide most of the info since then.
I paid $450 of the funds raised to get coolers made for the premium members and when the company that made them messed them up (made the KSU Fans logo turquoise) they refused to fix their error so I'm in court trying to recoup my money (which I spent another $600 on attorney's fees and court costs, so far.) None of that money has gone to help pay the costs of operating the website.
I received letters from attorneys on several occasions threatening lawsuits for libel and slander against members and it cost me about $500 in legal fees to respond to those.
The Google Ads have, on average, generated about $100.00 month in ad revenue since June 2007.
The website has generated approximately $1800 in total revenue from Premium and Advertising.
Now, during that time, I've had offers to place ads on KSUFANS from other sources, but each time, they have chosen not to because the website has "issues" in regards to the message boards. You guys talking about getting sponsors have to understand that people would be more than willing to advertise on the site, until they read the message board. Then they run away like flies. I don't think I have to explain why.
So here is your breakdown of costs since January 2006:
T-1 (internet circuit) - $14,000.00
Servers: $3600.00
Support Software: $1400.00
Time spent developing website functions/etc: $5355.00
Legal Costs associated with website: $1100.00
Promotional Expenses (coolers) $450.00
I am not counting the maintenance time as I don't normally charge for that. It comes with the service of hosting websites.
Grand total: $25,905.00
Now, to be fair, since KSU Fans is not entirely responsible for some of those costs. I have offered web hosting to my customers and built websites for them and when I started the current KSUFANS in 2006, I was able to make enough money to support having it and not worry about the costs.
However, if you consider how much I charge my customers to host and maintain a website on my servers, at $50.00 a month, then here is what the costs would be if KSUFANS were a customer of mine:
From January 2006-April 2008
Hosting Fees: $1,500.00
Website Setup Fee: $3,000 (on average)
Backup Services: $1,000.00
Legal Expenses: $1,100.00
Promotional Expenses (coolers) $450.00
So if I were to set up the site and operate it as a business, the site right now has expenses of $7050.00 and revenues during that time of $1800, leaving a loss of $5,250.00. Again, I wasn't looking to make money, only wanted the site to be self sufficient.
When KSUFans.com was purchased, SeanK got well over $10,000 for the site by the Insiders. I was out almost $3K for that deal when I was hosting it before. I got nothing from the sale and neither did SPC as it was him who did most of the work to get it where it was.
I realize that some of you are acting like business advisors, when I'm sure most of you have never run a business in your life. I piggy backed the operation of the website from my own resources. With the changing economy and business on a serious downturn, I've had to make financial decisions that is going to impact the site. The revenue I've lost cannot be compensated by KSU Fans and even if I were to move it to a hosting service, there are issues that I don't have time to deal with right now.
I was originally not interested in selling it, I was going to kill the site and just end it. However, there is value in the site. A lot of value. Someone else starting a site would have to go through the same pains I or anyone else did, and have to deal with all the issues of building a community and the cost would be substantially greater in terms of time and money spent. I am giving them an opportunity to have something already in place and working with a reasonable value to it.
If you want to start a new site, then I'll kill this one now and just end it. It's not a big deal to me, but I figured that someone here really would like to have what's built and the amount I'm asking for in terms of time and money spent is very reasonable. It already has a strong and vibrant community and it continues to grow. In it's current state, it has enough going for it that it can be self sustaining meaning advertising and occasional donations will keep it going and the individuals buying into it will recoup their investments in no time.
There it is for you to look at.
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Thanks for the info MJ. I knew there were a lot of op costs that many smack talkers here did not see. Your information really puts some good perspective on things.
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Backup Services: $1,000.00
I could make jokes here. I really could.
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Thanks for the info MJ. I knew there were a lot of op costs that many smack talkers here did not see. Your information really puts some good perspective on things.
Anytime. I don't think a lot of people understand what it takes to make a successful website and what people have to do for this kind of venture.
Saul is getting a website with a lot less startup costs than I had and is doing a smart community fund drive to help him get started and I think it's a great idea. People giving $10.00 to help move it along is not a lot to invest, although from some of the whining, you'd think it was a life savings. There are lots of decisions in terms of operations and management that have to be dealt with and when starting your own, there is a lot more. I've done this enough times to realize that if I were to start another one like this, I would definitely know what it would take capital wise to get it started. I charge my customers over $3,000 to start one and after it gets going, they realize they got a bargain because ultimately, they try to do it themselves and realize it's not as easy as it looks.
For users on this website, all the hard work has been done. I didn't include things like time to configure the software, having graphic work done (BTW: I paid Chupa out of my own pocket for his work), and hours spent tweaking. I could easily make that expense number higher. I think though, the point is there, and there really doesn't need to be any more discussion on this. It's now time for people to step up to the plate if they really want to have a successful community right now.
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Backup Services: $1,000.00
I could make jokes here. I really could.
No you can't.
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I received letters from attorneys on several occasions threatening lawsuits for libel and slander against members and it cost me about $500 in legal fees to respond to those.
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I received letters from attorneys on several occasions threatening lawsuits for libel and slander against members and it cost me about $500 in legal fees to respond to those.
How many of those were because of me...?
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I am kind of surprised by some of you (well not really), you've spent hours on this board, some of you have posted 10's of thousands of times, it hasn't cost you a dime if you chose not to spend one, and now you're bitching because Rod wants a little money to buy the domain and database?? :lol: :lol: :lol:
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I am kind of surprised by some of you (well not really), you've spent hours on this board, some of you have posted 10's of thousands of times, it hasn't cost you a dime if you chose not to spend one, and now you're bitching because Rod wants a little money to buy the domain and database?? :lol: :lol: :lol:
Saul's plan will work because there are people here that will not allow it to not work. Everyone else will benefit from their actions. It's a microcosm of society as a whole.
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I am kind of surprised by some of you (well not really), you've spent hours on this board, some of you have posted 10's of thousands of times, it hasn't cost you a dime if you chose not to spend one, and now you're bitching because Rod wants a little money to buy the domain and database?? :lol: :lol: :lol:
Saul's plan will work because there are people here that will not allow it to not work. Everyone else will benefit from their actions. It's a microcosm of society as a whole.
That's deep dude, so you're paying right?!? I don't have to now?
:peek:
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MJ just provided a hell of a lot of needed info.
Saul, how are you going to afford all that off of $500 up front and google ads? Promo costs can be eliminated and some of the labor costs can be done pro bono by members, but it still looks bleak.
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Ok seriously, mj is demanding 2k dollars to keep the name of the site? This is the most retarded thing I have ever seen.
I think the database is the more important thing we are trying to obtain. But really he is a douche.
Well then I'm sorry you all have such a fragile ego when it comes to losing your post count or losing your post history...
who really cares, post counts are the most retarded contest anyways. IMO, you should do hidden post counts, which means do your 1 star through 10 stars, but then you wouldn't know how many posts it takes and it isn't so obviously hitting you in the face. Do you realize that many people don't post because of poster intimidation?
I don't think anybody really cares about their post count. That could be edited anyways on a new site if someone really did care. What they want is the old posts so they can go diving in the trash to bump past comments or to reference past posts for whatever reason.
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MJ just provided a hell of a lot of needed info.
Saul, how are you going to afford all that off of $500 up front and google ads? Promo costs can be eliminated and some of the labor costs can be done pro bono by members, but it still looks bleak.
MJROD's costs were much higher than what ours will be. I plan on choosing a host that will provide all of that stuff in an up front monthly fee. You see, the hosting services provide the licenses needed for all that software, plus the bandwidth, and server, for a monthly fee. I'm looking to spend around $50-$100 a month on a hosting service.
Why he didn't choose to do that earlier, I don't know. Not my concern.
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poster intimidation - best part of this thread thus far
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MJ just provided a hell of a lot of needed info.
Saul, how are you going to afford all that off of $500 up front and google ads? Promo costs can be eliminated and some of the labor costs can be done pro bono by members, but it still looks bleak.
MJROD's costs were much higher than what ours will be. I plan on choosing a host that will provide all of that stuff in an up front monthly fee. You see, the hosting services provide the licenses needed for all that software, plus the bandwidth, and server, for a monthly fee. I'm looking to spend around $50-$100 a month on a hosting service.
Why he didn't choose to do that earlier, I don't know. Not my concern.
I think we know why.
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poster intimidation - best part of this thread thus far
Pissclams, I've never said this before, but you intimidate me with your 8 thousand posts-s-s. And I-I-i'm being assertive, and I w-w-won't take your shi-i-i-t anny more! Oh balls, the fear's gripped me again. I'm sorry, sir :ohno: :runaway:
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Ok seriously, mj is demanding 2k dollars to keep the name of the site? This is the most retarded thing I have ever seen.
I think the database is the more important thing we are trying to obtain. But really he is a douche.
Well then I'm sorry you all have such a fragile ego when it comes to losing your post count or losing your post history...
who really cares, post counts are the most retarded contest anyways. IMO, you should do hidden post counts, which means do your 1 star through 10 stars, but then you wouldn't know how many posts it takes and it isn't so obviously hitting you in the face. Do you realize that many people don't post because of poster intimidation?
I don't think anybody really cares about their post count. That could be edited anyways on a new site if someone really did care. What they want is the old posts so they can go diving in the trash to bump past comments or to reference past posts for whatever reason.
Agree.
Plus, this is kind of ironic coming from a user with nearly 30k posts (dr00d). Poster intimidation. :mad:
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dr00d has intimidated me (as a poster) in the past. i don't think he really has 29k posts though. which makes him even more intimidating, imo.
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MJ just provided a hell of a lot of needed info.
Saul, how are you going to afford all that off of $500 up front and google ads? Promo costs can be eliminated and some of the labor costs can be done pro bono by members, but it still looks bleak.
MJROD's costs were much higher than what ours will be. I plan on choosing a host that will provide all of that stuff in an up front monthly fee. You see, the hosting services provide the licenses needed for all that software, plus the bandwidth, and server, for a monthly fee. I'm looking to spend around $50-$100 a month on a hosting service.
Why he didn't choose to do that earlier, I don't know. Not my concern.
I think we know why.
And that would be?
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MJ just provided a hell of a lot of needed info.
Saul, how are you going to afford all that off of $500 up front and google ads? Promo costs can be eliminated and some of the labor costs can be done pro bono by members, but it still looks bleak.
MJROD's costs were much higher than what ours will be. I plan on choosing a host that will provide all of that stuff in an up front monthly fee. You see, the hosting services provide the licenses needed for all that software, plus the bandwidth, and server, for a monthly fee. I'm looking to spend around $50-$100 a month on a hosting service.
Why he didn't choose to do that earlier, I don't know. Not my concern.
I think we know why.
And that would be?
you were assuming the risk/costs speculatively as a business decision (which failed). Solid write-offs as business losses fwiw. You owning/running the entire system gave you more earning potential.
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MJ just provided a hell of a lot of needed info.
Saul, how are you going to afford all that off of $500 up front and google ads? Promo costs can be eliminated and some of the labor costs can be done pro bono by members, but it still looks bleak.
MJROD's costs were much higher than what ours will be. I plan on choosing a host that will provide all of that stuff in an up front monthly fee. You see, the hosting services provide the licenses needed for all that software, plus the bandwidth, and server, for a monthly fee. I'm looking to spend around $50-$100 a month on a hosting service.
Why he didn't choose to do that earlier, I don't know. Not my concern.
Why are you looking to start the site with a hosting company that will charge $50-$100 a month when you could most likely go much cheaper and have the same results? Seems like I would start low and move up if necessary. If you start high, you'll never know if paying a lot less would've been just as satisfactory as far as performance goes. If you start with some basic service at less than $10/month or even a business service at $20/month, if the site violates some CPU usage policy or whatever policy they have in place, at that time you can move up to a dedicated service (or VPS) with very little inconvenience.
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I may be able to help you guys. I own my own webserver running LAMP on a 20M pipe.
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MJ just provided a hell of a lot of needed info.
Saul, how are you going to afford all that off of $500 up front and google ads? Promo costs can be eliminated and some of the labor costs can be done pro bono by members, but it still looks bleak.
MJROD's costs were much higher than what ours will be. I plan on choosing a host that will provide all of that stuff in an up front monthly fee. You see, the hosting services provide the licenses needed for all that software, plus the bandwidth, and server, for a monthly fee. I'm looking to spend around $50-$100 a month on a hosting service.
Why he didn't choose to do that earlier, I don't know. Not my concern.
Why are you looking to start the site with a hosting company that will charge $50-$100 a month when you could most likely go much cheaper and have the same results? Seems like I would start low and move up if necessary. If you start high, you'll never know if paying a lot less would've been just as satisfactory as far as performance goes. If you start with some basic service at less than $10/month or even a business service at $20/month, if the site violates some CPU usage policy or whatever policy they have in place, at that time you can move up to a dedicated service (or VPS) with very little inconvenience.
I can guarantee you that a cheaper host will shut us down within days. I'm hoping a VPS will offer us a viable solution. I'm investigating different services, but i'm all ears if you have some recommendations. I'm really hoping we do not need a full blown dedicated server, plus i'm hoping we don't have to scale down some of the features in order to save money.
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MJ just provided a hell of a lot of needed info.
Saul, how are you going to afford all that off of $500 up front and google ads? Promo costs can be eliminated and some of the labor costs can be done pro bono by members, but it still looks bleak.
MJROD's costs were much higher than what ours will be. I plan on choosing a host that will provide all of that stuff in an up front monthly fee. You see, the hosting services provide the licenses needed for all that software, plus the bandwidth, and server, for a monthly fee. I'm looking to spend around $50-$100 a month on a hosting service.
Why he didn't choose to do that earlier, I don't know. Not my concern.
Why are you looking to start the site with a hosting company that will charge $50-$100 a month when you could most likely go much cheaper and have the same results? Seems like I would start low and move up if necessary. If you start high, you'll never know if paying a lot less would've been just as satisfactory as far as performance goes. If you start with some basic service at less than $10/month or even a business service at $20/month, if the site violates some CPU usage policy or whatever policy they have in place, at that time you can move up to a dedicated service (or VPS) with very little inconvenience.
I can guarantee you that a cheaper host will shut us down within days. I'm hoping a VPS will offer us a viable solution. I'm investigating different services, but i'm all ears if you have some recommendations. I'm really hoping we do not need a full blown dedicated server, plus i'm hoping we don't have to scale down some of the features in order to save money.
How much traffic are you talking about?
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MJ just provided a hell of a lot of needed info.
Saul, how are you going to afford all that off of $500 up front and google ads? Promo costs can be eliminated and some of the labor costs can be done pro bono by members, but it still looks bleak.
MJROD's costs were much higher than what ours will be. I plan on choosing a host that will provide all of that stuff in an up front monthly fee. You see, the hosting services provide the licenses needed for all that software, plus the bandwidth, and server, for a monthly fee. I'm looking to spend around $50-$100 a month on a hosting service.
Why he didn't choose to do that earlier, I don't know. Not my concern.
Why are you looking to start the site with a hosting company that will charge $50-$100 a month when you could most likely go much cheaper and have the same results? Seems like I would start low and move up if necessary. If you start high, you'll never know if paying a lot less would've been just as satisfactory as far as performance goes. If you start with some basic service at less than $10/month or even a business service at $20/month, if the site violates some CPU usage policy or whatever policy they have in place, at that time you can move up to a dedicated service (or VPS) with very little inconvenience.
I can guarantee you that a cheaper host will shut us down within days. I'm hoping a VPS will offer us a viable solution. I'm investigating different services, but i'm all ears if you have some recommendations. I'm really hoping we do not need a full blown dedicated server, plus i'm hoping we don't have to scale down some of the features in order to save money.
How much traffic are you talking about?
How big is your server?
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MJ just provided a hell of a lot of needed info.
Saul, how are you going to afford all that off of $500 up front and google ads? Promo costs can be eliminated and some of the labor costs can be done pro bono by members, but it still looks bleak.
MJROD's costs were much higher than what ours will be. I plan on choosing a host that will provide all of that stuff in an up front monthly fee. You see, the hosting services provide the licenses needed for all that software, plus the bandwidth, and server, for a monthly fee. I'm looking to spend around $50-$100 a month on a hosting service.
Why he didn't choose to do that earlier, I don't know. Not my concern.
Why are you looking to start the site with a hosting company that will charge $50-$100 a month when you could most likely go much cheaper and have the same results? Seems like I would start low and move up if necessary. If you start high, you'll never know if paying a lot less would've been just as satisfactory as far as performance goes. If you start with some basic service at less than $10/month or even a business service at $20/month, if the site violates some CPU usage policy or whatever policy they have in place, at that time you can move up to a dedicated service (or VPS) with very little inconvenience.
I can guarantee you that a cheaper host will shut us down within days. I'm hoping a VPS will offer us a viable solution. I'm investigating different services, but i'm all ears if you have some recommendations. I'm really hoping we do not need a full blown dedicated server, plus i'm hoping we don't have to scale down some of the features in order to save money.
How much traffic are you talking about?
Around 250gb a month. However, CPU usage is critical. 8-)
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MJ just provided a hell of a lot of needed info.
Saul, how are you going to afford all that off of $500 up front and google ads? Promo costs can be eliminated and some of the labor costs can be done pro bono by members, but it still looks bleak.
MJROD's costs were much higher than what ours will be. I plan on choosing a host that will provide all of that stuff in an up front monthly fee. You see, the hosting services provide the licenses needed for all that software, plus the bandwidth, and server, for a monthly fee. I'm looking to spend around $50-$100 a month on a hosting service.
Why he didn't choose to do that earlier, I don't know. Not my concern.
I think we know why.
And that would be?
you were assuming the risk/costs speculatively as a business decision (which failed). Solid write-offs as business losses fwiw. You owning/running the entire system gave you more earning potential.
Interesting way of looking at it.
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MJ just provided a hell of a lot of needed info.
Saul, how are you going to afford all that off of $500 up front and google ads? Promo costs can be eliminated and some of the labor costs can be done pro bono by members, but it still looks bleak.
MJROD's costs were much higher than what ours will be. I plan on choosing a host that will provide all of that stuff in an up front monthly fee. You see, the hosting services provide the licenses needed for all that software, plus the bandwidth, and server, for a monthly fee. I'm looking to spend around $50-$100 a month on a hosting service.
Why he didn't choose to do that earlier, I don't know. Not my concern.
Why are you looking to start the site with a hosting company that will charge $50-$100 a month when you could most likely go much cheaper and have the same results? Seems like I would start low and move up if necessary. If you start high, you'll never know if paying a lot less would've been just as satisfactory as far as performance goes. If you start with some basic service at less than $10/month or even a business service at $20/month, if the site violates some CPU usage policy or whatever policy they have in place, at that time you can move up to a dedicated service (or VPS) with very little inconvenience.
I can guarantee you that a cheaper host will shut us down within days. I'm hoping a VPS will offer us a viable solution. I'm investigating different services, but i'm all ears if you have some recommendations. I'm really hoping we do not need a full blown dedicated server, plus i'm hoping we don't have to scale down some of the features in order to save money.
How much traffic are you talking about?
How big is your server?
Dual Xeon, 2G ecc, 750GB HD Raid5...its a shared platform running CentOS with PLESK and mod_security, mod_evasive, mod_dosevasive and ossec-hids. Very secure. don't have to worry about sql-injections. i only have 3 domains on it now as it's just a hobby i'm trying to get going.
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MJ just provided a hell of a lot of needed info.
Saul, how are you going to afford all that off of $500 up front and google ads? Promo costs can be eliminated and some of the labor costs can be done pro bono by members, but it still looks bleak.
MJROD's costs were much higher than what ours will be. I plan on choosing a host that will provide all of that stuff in an up front monthly fee. You see, the hosting services provide the licenses needed for all that software, plus the bandwidth, and server, for a monthly fee. I'm looking to spend around $50-$100 a month on a hosting service.
Why he didn't choose to do that earlier, I don't know. Not my concern.
Why are you looking to start the site with a hosting company that will charge $50-$100 a month when you could most likely go much cheaper and have the same results? Seems like I would start low and move up if necessary. If you start high, you'll never know if paying a lot less would've been just as satisfactory as far as performance goes. If you start with some basic service at less than $10/month or even a business service at $20/month, if the site violates some CPU usage policy or whatever policy they have in place, at that time you can move up to a dedicated service (or VPS) with very little inconvenience.
I can guarantee you that a cheaper host will shut us down within days. I'm hoping a VPS will offer us a viable solution. I'm investigating different services, but i'm all ears if you have some recommendations. I'm really hoping we do not need a full blown dedicated server, plus i'm hoping we don't have to scale down some of the features in order to save money.
How much traffic are you talking about?
How big is your server?
Dual Xeon, 2G ecc, 750GB HD Raid5...its a shared platform running CentOS with PLESK and mod_security, mod_evasive, mod_dosevasive and ossec-hids. Very secure. don't have to worry about sql-injections. i only have 3 domains on it now as it's just a hobby i'm trying to get going.
No offense, but I don't think we should leave this site at the mercy of a ku fan. :tongue:
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MJ just provided a hell of a lot of needed info.
Saul, how are you going to afford all that off of $500 up front and google ads? Promo costs can be eliminated and some of the labor costs can be done pro bono by members, but it still looks bleak.
MJROD's costs were much higher than what ours will be. I plan on choosing a host that will provide all of that stuff in an up front monthly fee. You see, the hosting services provide the licenses needed for all that software, plus the bandwidth, and server, for a monthly fee. I'm looking to spend around $50-$100 a month on a hosting service.
Why he didn't choose to do that earlier, I don't know. Not my concern.
Why are you looking to start the site with a hosting company that will charge $50-$100 a month when you could most likely go much cheaper and have the same results? Seems like I would start low and move up if necessary. If you start high, you'll never know if paying a lot less would've been just as satisfactory as far as performance goes. If you start with some basic service at less than $10/month or even a business service at $20/month, if the site violates some CPU usage policy or whatever policy they have in place, at that time you can move up to a dedicated service (or VPS) with very little inconvenience.
I can guarantee you that a cheaper host will shut us down within days. I'm hoping a VPS will offer us a viable solution. I'm investigating different services, but i'm all ears if you have some recommendations. I'm really hoping we do not need a full blown dedicated server, plus i'm hoping we don't have to scale down some of the features in order to save money.
How much traffic are you talking about?
How big is your server?
Dual Xeon, 2G ecc, 750GB HD Raid5...its a shared platform running CentOS with PLESK and mod_security, mod_evasive, mod_dosevasive and ossec-hids. Very secure. don't have to worry about sql-injections. i only have 3 domains on it now as it's just a hobby i'm trying to get going.
No offense, but I don't think we should leave this site at the mercy of a ku fan. :tongue:
lol..i don't want any admin rights or anything..i'm a business man first. The other webserver i admin has 295 domains running the same setup and i take care of 49 other Linux servers so I do know what i'm doing. and i'm a nice guy. :D
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MJ just provided a hell of a lot of needed info.
Saul, how are you going to afford all that off of $500 up front and google ads? Promo costs can be eliminated and some of the labor costs can be done pro bono by members, but it still looks bleak.
MJROD's costs were much higher than what ours will be. I plan on choosing a host that will provide all of that stuff in an up front monthly fee. You see, the hosting services provide the licenses needed for all that software, plus the bandwidth, and server, for a monthly fee. I'm looking to spend around $50-$100 a month on a hosting service.
Why he didn't choose to do that earlier, I don't know. Not my concern.
Why are you looking to start the site with a hosting company that will charge $50-$100 a month when you could most likely go much cheaper and have the same results? Seems like I would start low and move up if necessary. If you start high, you'll never know if paying a lot less would've been just as satisfactory as far as performance goes. If you start with some basic service at less than $10/month or even a business service at $20/month, if the site violates some CPU usage policy or whatever policy they have in place, at that time you can move up to a dedicated service (or VPS) with very little inconvenience.
I can guarantee you that a cheaper host will shut us down within days. I'm hoping a VPS will offer us a viable solution. I'm investigating different services, but i'm all ears if you have some recommendations. I'm really hoping we do not need a full blown dedicated server, plus i'm hoping we don't have to scale down some of the features in order to save money.
How much traffic are you talking about?
How big is your server?
Dual Xeon, 2G ecc, 750GB HD Raid5...its a shared platform running CentOS with PLESK and mod_security, mod_evasive, mod_dosevasive and ossec-hids. Very secure. don't have to worry about sql-injections. i only have 3 domains on it now as it's just a hobby i'm trying to get going.
No offense, but I don't think we should leave this site at the mercy of a ku fan. :tongue:
I agree, fwiw. This guy might even be real cool but I don't think we should leave it in the hands of anyone that might have an ulterior motive at anytime.
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MJ just provided a hell of a lot of needed info.
Saul, how are you going to afford all that off of $500 up front and google ads? Promo costs can be eliminated and some of the labor costs can be done pro bono by members, but it still looks bleak.
MJROD's costs were much higher than what ours will be. I plan on choosing a host that will provide all of that stuff in an up front monthly fee. You see, the hosting services provide the licenses needed for all that software, plus the bandwidth, and server, for a monthly fee. I'm looking to spend around $50-$100 a month on a hosting service.
Why he didn't choose to do that earlier, I don't know. Not my concern.
Why are you looking to start the site with a hosting company that will charge $50-$100 a month when you could most likely go much cheaper and have the same results? Seems like I would start low and move up if necessary. If you start high, you'll never know if paying a lot less would've been just as satisfactory as far as performance goes. If you start with some basic service at less than $10/month or even a business service at $20/month, if the site violates some CPU usage policy or whatever policy they have in place, at that time you can move up to a dedicated service (or VPS) with very little inconvenience.
I can guarantee you that a cheaper host will shut us down within days. I'm hoping a VPS will offer us a viable solution. I'm investigating different services, but i'm all ears if you have some recommendations. I'm really hoping we do not need a full blown dedicated server, plus i'm hoping we don't have to scale down some of the features in order to save money.
Well, if you start low and it doesn't work out, most hosting sites can give you the load measurements to figure out what you need to upgrade to. So you start low, go over the CPU usage policy, find out your load measurements, and then are better able to make a decision on what service you need. You then upgrade to a higher service with the money of the basic plan for the first month going into the increase for the VPS or dedicated service.
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MJ just provided a hell of a lot of needed info.
Saul, how are you going to afford all that off of $500 up front and google ads? Promo costs can be eliminated and some of the labor costs can be done pro bono by members, but it still looks bleak.
MJROD's costs were much higher than what ours will be. I plan on choosing a host that will provide all of that stuff in an up front monthly fee. You see, the hosting services provide the licenses needed for all that software, plus the bandwidth, and server, for a monthly fee. I'm looking to spend around $50-$100 a month on a hosting service.
Why he didn't choose to do that earlier, I don't know. Not my concern.
Why are you looking to start the site with a hosting company that will charge $50-$100 a month when you could most likely go much cheaper and have the same results? Seems like I would start low and move up if necessary. If you start high, you'll never know if paying a lot less would've been just as satisfactory as far as performance goes. If you start with some basic service at less than $10/month or even a business service at $20/month, if the site violates some CPU usage policy or whatever policy they have in place, at that time you can move up to a dedicated service (or VPS) with very little inconvenience.
I can guarantee you that a cheaper host will shut us down within days. I'm hoping a VPS will offer us a viable solution. I'm investigating different services, but i'm all ears if you have some recommendations. I'm really hoping we do not need a full blown dedicated server, plus i'm hoping we don't have to scale down some of the features in order to save money.
Well, if you start low and it doesn't work out, most hosting sites can give you the load measurements to figure out what you need to upgrade to. So you start low, go over the CPU usage policy, find out your load measurements, and then are better able to make a decision on what service you need. You then upgrade to a higher service with the money of the basic plan for the first month going into the increase for the VPS or dedicated service.
Agree - but I think we have different ideas of what low may be. I'm thinking around 40-60 a month to start. I think a $60 plan may be fine.
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MJ just provided a hell of a lot of needed info.
Saul, how are you going to afford all that off of $500 up front and google ads? Promo costs can be eliminated and some of the labor costs can be done pro bono by members, but it still looks bleak.
MJROD's costs were much higher than what ours will be. I plan on choosing a host that will provide all of that stuff in an up front monthly fee. You see, the hosting services provide the licenses needed for all that software, plus the bandwidth, and server, for a monthly fee. I'm looking to spend around $50-$100 a month on a hosting service.
Why he didn't choose to do that earlier, I don't know. Not my concern.
Why are you looking to start the site with a hosting company that will charge $50-$100 a month when you could most likely go much cheaper and have the same results? Seems like I would start low and move up if necessary. If you start high, you'll never know if paying a lot less would've been just as satisfactory as far as performance goes. If you start with some basic service at less than $10/month or even a business service at $20/month, if the site violates some CPU usage policy or whatever policy they have in place, at that time you can move up to a dedicated service (or VPS) with very little inconvenience.
I can guarantee you that a cheaper host will shut us down within days. I'm hoping a VPS will offer us a viable solution. I'm investigating different services, but i'm all ears if you have some recommendations. I'm really hoping we do not need a full blown dedicated server, plus i'm hoping we don't have to scale down some of the features in order to save money.
Well, if you start low and it doesn't work out, most hosting sites can give you the load measurements to figure out what you need to upgrade to. So you start low, go over the CPU usage policy, find out your load measurements, and then are better able to make a decision on what service you need. You then upgrade to a higher service with the money of the basic plan for the first month going into the increase for the VPS or dedicated service.
Agree - but I think we have different ideas of what low may be. I'm thinking around 40-60 a month to start. I think a $60 plan may be fine.
You sure the wife will let you put up $50-100 a month for a message board?
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MJ just provided a hell of a lot of needed info.
Saul, how are you going to afford all that off of $500 up front and google ads? Promo costs can be eliminated and some of the labor costs can be done pro bono by members, but it still looks bleak.
MJROD's costs were much higher than what ours will be. I plan on choosing a host that will provide all of that stuff in an up front monthly fee. You see, the hosting services provide the licenses needed for all that software, plus the bandwidth, and server, for a monthly fee. I'm looking to spend around $50-$100 a month on a hosting service.
Why he didn't choose to do that earlier, I don't know. Not my concern.
Why are you looking to start the site with a hosting company that will charge $50-$100 a month when you could most likely go much cheaper and have the same results? Seems like I would start low and move up if necessary. If you start high, you'll never know if paying a lot less would've been just as satisfactory as far as performance goes. If you start with some basic service at less than $10/month or even a business service at $20/month, if the site violates some CPU usage policy or whatever policy they have in place, at that time you can move up to a dedicated service (or VPS) with very little inconvenience.
I can guarantee you that a cheaper host will shut us down within days. I'm hoping a VPS will offer us a viable solution. I'm investigating different services, but i'm all ears if you have some recommendations. I'm really hoping we do not need a full blown dedicated server, plus i'm hoping we don't have to scale down some of the features in order to save money.
How much traffic are you talking about?
How big is your server?
Dual Xeon, 2G ecc, 750GB HD Raid5...its a shared platform running CentOS with PLESK and mod_security, mod_evasive, mod_dosevasive and ossec-hids. Very secure. don't have to worry about sql-injections. i only have 3 domains on it now as it's just a hobby i'm trying to get going.
No offense, but I don't think we should leave this site at the mercy of a ku fan. :tongue:
I agree, fwiw. This guy might even be real cool but I don't think we should leave it in the hands of anyone that might have an ulterior motive at anytime.
So you only want a host that's a KSU fan??? My "real" life has nothing to do with my "sports fan" life.
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MJ just provided a hell of a lot of needed info.
Saul, how are you going to afford all that off of $500 up front and google ads? Promo costs can be eliminated and some of the labor costs can be done pro bono by members, but it still looks bleak.
MJROD's costs were much higher than what ours will be. I plan on choosing a host that will provide all of that stuff in an up front monthly fee. You see, the hosting services provide the licenses needed for all that software, plus the bandwidth, and server, for a monthly fee. I'm looking to spend around $50-$100 a month on a hosting service.
Why he didn't choose to do that earlier, I don't know. Not my concern.
Why are you looking to start the site with a hosting company that will charge $50-$100 a month when you could most likely go much cheaper and have the same results? Seems like I would start low and move up if necessary. If you start high, you'll never know if paying a lot less would've been just as satisfactory as far as performance goes. If you start with some basic service at less than $10/month or even a business service at $20/month, if the site violates some CPU usage policy or whatever policy they have in place, at that time you can move up to a dedicated service (or VPS) with very little inconvenience.
I can guarantee you that a cheaper host will shut us down within days. I'm hoping a VPS will offer us a viable solution. I'm investigating different services, but i'm all ears if you have some recommendations. I'm really hoping we do not need a full blown dedicated server, plus i'm hoping we don't have to scale down some of the features in order to save money.
Well, if you start low and it doesn't work out, most hosting sites can give you the load measurements to figure out what you need to upgrade to. So you start low, go over the CPU usage policy, find out your load measurements, and then are better able to make a decision on what service you need. You then upgrade to a higher service with the money of the basic plan for the first month going into the increase for the VPS or dedicated service.
Agree - but I think we have different ideas of what low may be. I'm thinking around 40-60 a month to start. I think a $60 plan may be fine.
You sure the wife will let you put up $50-100 a month for a message board?
Yeah. The ad revenues will pay for it.
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i won't cost you 50 -100/month to start off either
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MJ just provided a hell of a lot of needed info.
Saul, how are you going to afford all that off of $500 up front and google ads? Promo costs can be eliminated and some of the labor costs can be done pro bono by members, but it still looks bleak.
MJROD's costs were much higher than what ours will be. I plan on choosing a host that will provide all of that stuff in an up front monthly fee. You see, the hosting services provide the licenses needed for all that software, plus the bandwidth, and server, for a monthly fee. I'm looking to spend around $50-$100 a month on a hosting service.
Why he didn't choose to do that earlier, I don't know. Not my concern.
Why are you looking to start the site with a hosting company that will charge $50-$100 a month when you could most likely go much cheaper and have the same results? Seems like I would start low and move up if necessary. If you start high, you'll never know if paying a lot less would've been just as satisfactory as far as performance goes. If you start with some basic service at less than $10/month or even a business service at $20/month, if the site violates some CPU usage policy or whatever policy they have in place, at that time you can move up to a dedicated service (or VPS) with very little inconvenience.
I can guarantee you that a cheaper host will shut us down within days. I'm hoping a VPS will offer us a viable solution. I'm investigating different services, but i'm all ears if you have some recommendations. I'm really hoping we do not need a full blown dedicated server, plus i'm hoping we don't have to scale down some of the features in order to save money.
How much traffic are you talking about?
How big is your server?
Dual Xeon, 2G ecc, 750GB HD Raid5...its a shared platform running CentOS with PLESK and mod_security, mod_evasive, mod_dosevasive and ossec-hids. Very secure. don't have to worry about sql-injections. i only have 3 domains on it now as it's just a hobby i'm trying to get going.
No offense, but I don't think we should leave this site at the mercy of a ku fan. :tongue:
I agree, fwiw. This guy might even be real cool but I don't think we should leave it in the hands of anyone that might have an ulterior motive at anytime.
So you only want a host that's a KSU fan??? My "real" life has nothing to do with my "sports fan" life.
I'm just saying. I don't want somebody running this site to all of a sudden get upset with the content and start banning people or threatening to shut it down. That's not what this site is for.
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MJ just provided a hell of a lot of needed info.
Saul, how are you going to afford all that off of $500 up front and google ads? Promo costs can be eliminated and some of the labor costs can be done pro bono by members, but it still looks bleak.
MJROD's costs were much higher than what ours will be. I plan on choosing a host that will provide all of that stuff in an up front monthly fee. You see, the hosting services provide the licenses needed for all that software, plus the bandwidth, and server, for a monthly fee. I'm looking to spend around $50-$100 a month on a hosting service.
Why he didn't choose to do that earlier, I don't know. Not my concern.
Why are you looking to start the site with a hosting company that will charge $50-$100 a month when you could most likely go much cheaper and have the same results? Seems like I would start low and move up if necessary. If you start high, you'll never know if paying a lot less would've been just as satisfactory as far as performance goes. If you start with some basic service at less than $10/month or even a business service at $20/month, if the site violates some CPU usage policy or whatever policy they have in place, at that time you can move up to a dedicated service (or VPS) with very little inconvenience.
I can guarantee you that a cheaper host will shut us down within days. I'm hoping a VPS will offer us a viable solution. I'm investigating different services, but i'm all ears if you have some recommendations. I'm really hoping we do not need a full blown dedicated server, plus i'm hoping we don't have to scale down some of the features in order to save money.
How much traffic are you talking about?
How big is your server?
Dual Xeon, 2G ecc, 750GB HD Raid5...its a shared platform running CentOS with PLESK and mod_security, mod_evasive, mod_dosevasive and ossec-hids. Very secure. don't have to worry about sql-injections. i only have 3 domains on it now as it's just a hobby i'm trying to get going.
No offense, but I don't think we should leave this site at the mercy of a ku fan. :tongue:
I agree, fwiw. This guy might even be real cool but I don't think we should leave it in the hands of anyone that might have an ulterior motive at anytime.
So you only want a host that's a KSU fan??? My "real" life has nothing to do with my "sports fan" life.
I'm just saying. I don't want somebody running this site to all of a sudden get upset with the content and start banning people or threatening to shut it down. That's not what this site is for.
you missed my earlier posts. I DO NOT want to run ksufans.com. Only host it. See i get a good traffic site like this on my new server i get a little bit of word-of-mouth of my new server and maybe get a few more domains on it.
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and my most expensive plan is cheaper than 50 - 100
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and my most expensive plan is cheaper than 50 - 100
Well, do you think your server can handle it? We could try it out.
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Once I can get the usage stats, i'll send them to you.
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and my most expensive plan is cheaper than 50 - 100
Well, do you think your server can handle it? We could try it out.
it's a Dual Xeon machine which translates to 8 cores. It's sitting at 100% idle on 7 cores and 99% idle on the other. so yeah i would guess it could handle it. I may have to upgrade the RAM a bit if the site gets draggy. MJROD> if i can ask what are the hardware specs it's on now.
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also is the DB mysql?
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and my most expensive plan is cheaper than 50 - 100
Well, do you think your server can handle it? We could try it out.
it's a Dual Xeon machine which translates to 8 cores. It's sitting at 100% idle on 7 cores and 99% idle on the other. so yeah i would guess it could handle it. I may have to upgrade the RAM a bit if the site gets draggy. MJROD> if i can ask what are the hardware specs it's on now.
Your machine has much more capability than mine.
My issue is the bandwidth. You sound like you have a partial T-3?
The database is MySQL and it runs PHP. Currently runs on Windows 2000 server, 4 GB of RAM. The slowness during peak times is a combination of bandwidth and CPU utilization.
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fitting a jawhawk has a more capable situation.
:'(
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and my most expensive plan is cheaper than 50 - 100
Well, do you think your server can handle it? We could try it out.
it's a Dual Xeon machine which translates to 8 cores. It's sitting at 100% idle on 7 cores and 99% idle on the other. so yeah i would guess it could handle it. I may have to upgrade the RAM a bit if the site gets draggy. MJROD> if i can ask what are the hardware specs it's on now.
Your machine has much more capability than mine.
My issue is the bandwidth. You sound like you have a partial T-3?
The database is MySQL and it runs PHP. Currently runs on Windows 2000 server, 4 GB of RAM. The slowness during peak times is a combination of bandwidth and CPU utilization.
Yeah its fract DS3 20M burst to 45M. I have apache 2, mysql5 and php5 on it.
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jayhawks . . . you're paying for this 20Mbps out of your own pocket??
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jayhawks . . . you're paying for this 20Mbps out of your own pocket??
He's probably stealing it. Sad... :blank:
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jayhawks . . . you're paying for this 20Mbps out of your own pocket??
He's probably stealing it. Sad... :blank:
actually my employer pays for it. I work for an ISP here in nebraska. and yes..they do know i have a server hooked into it. I have 2 of my own here actually. perk of the job.
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So the first time the next Bucknell or Bradley comes along, the new hamster will mysteriously die? Not sure I like the sound of that.
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jayhawks . . . you're paying for this 20Mbps out of your own pocket??
He's probably stealing it. Sad... :blank:
actually my employer pays for it. I work for an ISP here in nebraska. and yes..they do know i have a server hooked into it. I have 2 of my own here actually. perk of the job.
Link to their plans?
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So the first time the next Bucknell or Bradley comes along, the new hamster will mysteriously die? Not sure I like the sound of that.
i really hope you don't think i'm that kind of person. If whom ever is going to run the site wants to talk with me first i'm ok with that.
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MJ just provided a hell of a lot of needed info.
Saul, how are you going to afford all that off of $500 up front and google ads? Promo costs can be eliminated and some of the labor costs can be done pro bono by members, but it still looks bleak.
MJROD's costs were much higher than what ours will be. I plan on choosing a host that will provide all of that stuff in an up front monthly fee. You see, the hosting services provide the licenses needed for all that software, plus the bandwidth, and server, for a monthly fee. I'm looking to spend around $50-$100 a month on a hosting service.
Why he didn't choose to do that earlier, I don't know. Not my concern.
Why are you looking to start the site with a hosting company that will charge $50-$100 a month when you could most likely go much cheaper and have the same results? Seems like I would start low and move up if necessary. If you start high, you'll never know if paying a lot less would've been just as satisfactory as far as performance goes. If you start with some basic service at less than $10/month or even a business service at $20/month, if the site violates some CPU usage policy or whatever policy they have in place, at that time you can move up to a dedicated service (or VPS) with very little inconvenience.
I can guarantee you that a cheaper host will shut us down within days. I'm hoping a VPS will offer us a viable solution. I'm investigating different services, but i'm all ears if you have some recommendations. I'm really hoping we do not need a full blown dedicated server, plus i'm hoping we don't have to scale down some of the features in order to save money.
Well, if you start low and it doesn't work out, most hosting sites can give you the load measurements to figure out what you need to upgrade to. So you start low, go over the CPU usage policy, find out your load measurements, and then are better able to make a decision on what service you need. You then upgrade to a higher service with the money of the basic plan for the first month going into the increase for the VPS or dedicated service.
Agree - but I think we have different ideas of what low may be. I'm thinking around 40-60 a month to start. I think a $60 plan may be fine.
If you think you won't have to ask again for money in the near future when you're paying $50-$100/month then that's cool, but most web host companies won't drop your site if you exceed some limit. You'll be put on a stabilization server with the ability to upgrade if that's what you have to do. Just seems better to me to spend $20-$40 and find out what your load is and then go from there instead of starting too high and wasting money.
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jayhawks . . . you're paying for this 20Mbps out of your own pocket??
He's probably stealing it. Sad... :blank:
actually my employer pays for it. I work for an ISP here in nebraska. and yes..they do know i have a server hooked into it. I have 2 of my own here actually. perk of the job.
Link to their plans?
here is their site www.kdsi.net ....my "temp" site for my server is www.atomicsecuredhosting.com (mind you it's still in construction phase)
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So the first time the next Bucknell or Bradley comes along, the new hamster will mysteriously die? Not sure I like the sound of that.
i really hope you don't think i'm that kind of person. If whom ever is going to run the site wants to talk with me first i'm ok with that.
You're a Jayhawk. All Jayhawks are bad.... even the one I'm married to.
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So do they have all of their traffic going out on that Frac DS3?? What transport method are they using?? Frame, ATM, MPLS?? Who is the provider??
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jayhawks . . . you're paying for this 20Mbps out of your own pocket??
He's probably stealing it. Sad... :blank:
actually my employer pays for it. I work for an ISP here in nebraska. and yes..they do know i have a server hooked into it. I have 2 of my own here actually. perk of the job.
Link to their plans?
here is their site www.kdsi.net ....my "temp" site for my server is www.atomicsecuredhosting.com (mind you it's still in construction phase)
Is that a picture of you? I could prob. take you in our pending fight if I really work out for a while.
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steve is that going to be a death or cage match, if not both??
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So do they have all of their traffic going out on that Frac DS3?? What transport method are they using?? Frame, ATM, MPLS?? Who is the provider??
We have 2 DS3's, one through Qwest and one through Windstream (Qwest is our main highway) using ATM.
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jayhawks . . . you're paying for this 20Mbps out of your own pocket??
He's probably stealing it. Sad... :blank:
actually my employer pays for it. I work for an ISP here in nebraska. and yes..they do know i have a server hooked into it. I have 2 of my own here actually. perk of the job.
Link to their plans?
here is their site www.kdsi.net ....my "temp" site for my server is www.atomicsecuredhosting.com (mind you it's still in construction phase)
Is that a picture of you? I could prob. take you in our pending fight if I really work out for a while.
No that is not me.
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steve is that going to be a death or cage match, if not both??
either way as long as the undercard is women's mud wrestling.
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Online PPV on this match??
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Online PPV on this match??
As much hype as it will get, probably. (Although i think a better plan would be steve and I team up and take out every single husker fan in this state)
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I could be convinced to pony up a dollar for your cause. Maybe one dollar and 25 cents.
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I could be convinced to pony up a dollar for your cause. Maybe one dollar and 25 cents.
Every little bit helps! :)
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I could be convinced to pony up a dollar for your cause. Maybe one dollar and 25 cents.
Every little bit helps! :)
Saul,
What is the donation total up to ?
:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:
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I could be convinced to pony up a dollar for your cause. Maybe one dollar and 25 cents.
Every little bit helps! :)
Saul,
What is the donation total up to ?
:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:
$505.
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I could be convinced to pony up a dollar for your cause. Maybe one dollar and 25 cents.
Every little bit helps! :)
Saul,
What is the donation total up to ?
:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:
$505.
That's not bad.
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hey i'll pitch in $20 :thumbsup:
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You all can keep my cooler and tshirt.
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hey i'll pitch in $20 :thumbsup:
That is all? With those high-tech video blogs, I thought you could foot the whole bill.
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Whatever we do, we must still continue to implore Hoax to post over here, we just can't have ksufans without the gold nuggets that hoax, ben and others provide.
Here's Hoax claiming this board is a refuge for those who get virtual "beatdowns" on phog.net. They're so cute when they declare virtual victory:
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Where will we go to see a K-Stater get punked here and run over there to act like they didn't get punked? And other nimrods argeeing with them?
When I buy the rights I'll do nothing but change the name to ROMPER-ROOM.COM.
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When I buy the rights I'll do nothing but change the name to ROMPER-ROOM.COM.
Would be funny for a while
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a virtual beatdown? sounds virtually painful.
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When I buy the rights I'll do nothing but change the name to ROMPER-ROOM.COM.
Would be funny for a while
That would be funny, I just don't know if any of those guys could peel themselves off of Tom Lights' testicles long enough to make that happen.
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When I buy the rights I'll do nothing but change the name to ROMPER-ROOM.COM.
Would be funny for a while
That would be funny, I just don't know if any of those guys could peel themselves off of Tom Lights' testicles long enough to make that happen.
It'd be all, "Whatever, dad, I'm going to smoke cigarettes no matter what you say!" and dad is all, "LOL at you kids, you'll learn one of these days" except dad's, like, one of those closet freakos that is the cool dad usually but once in a while beats the holy hell out of his kids (this dad is usually the little league coach). Hox would just stop in to poke fun and whatnot once in a while but when things didn't go his way he would ban the whole site for days on end.
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LOL . . . I think we'd have to concern ourselves about site operations during the bi-annual attic remodeling at the Hoax house.
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LOL . . . I think we'd have to concern ourselves about site operations during the bi-annual attic remodeling at the Hoax house.
Yeah, except he would have the power to make every one of us have an attic remodel at the same time.
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Question:
If I donate a Boone Pickens like sum of money, can I be like an Admin or Mod?? Just wondering I have an oil well in my backyard.
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Question:
If I donate a Boone Pickens like sum of money, can I be like an Admin or Mod?? Just wondering I have an oil well in my backyard.
:love:
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J-mart needs to ask Beas how much he is going to donate to "ksufans.com-The Rebirth" at the press conference today.
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LOL . . . I think we'd have to concern ourselves about site operations during the bi-annual attic remodeling at the Hoax house.
Yeah, except he would have the power to make every one of us have an attic remodel at the same time.
Then there's the dreaded "office move" periods.
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Hey guys,
I'm the System Administrator and Webmaster at NCAAbbs. Should your efforts fall short, we'd be glad to help you move into NCAAbbs. We would:
- Setup your existing mods/admins on our side
- Import all your posts/members
- Put up a nice looking KSU team skin
We're the #1 forum for:
- Conferences: ASun, Big East, CUSA, MAC, WAC
- Teams: ETSU, Kennesaw St, Cincinnati, UAB, Memphis, Rice, Kent State, Toledo, NIU, EMU, CMU, WMU, and we're working on UALR.
We'd welcome you guys in and not charge a dime. We have purchased our own monsterous colocated servers, and push several million hits a day no problem.
Cheers!
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Hey guys,
I'm the System Administrator and Webmaster at NCAAbbs. Should your efforts fall short, we'd be glad to help you move into NCAAbbs. We would:
- Setup your existing mods/admins on our side
- Import all your posts/members
- Put up a nice looking KSU team skin
We're the #1 forum for:
- Conferences: ASun, Big East, CUSA, MAC, WAC
- Teams: ETSU, Kennesaw St, Cincinnati, UAB, Memphis, Rice, Kent State, Toledo, NIU, EMU, CMU, WMU, and we're working on UALR.
We'd welcome you guys in and not charge a dime. We have purchased our own monsterous colocated servers, and push several million hits a day no problem.
Cheers!
Well that's fitting. K-State really is on the sh1t side of the hill.
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The worst thing about the deadline being on May 15th, is that it will really be difficult to give an adequate summary of the Scott City Nut Fry.
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Have you e-mailed [email protected] yet? do your friggin job.
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Hey guys,
I'm the System Administrator and Webmaster at NCAAbbs. Should your efforts fall short, we'd be glad to help you move into NCAAbbs. We would:
- Setup your existing mods/admins on our side
- Import all your posts/members
- Put up a nice looking KSU team skin
We're the #1 forum for:
- Conferences: ASun, Big East, CUSA, MAC, WAC
- Teams: ETSU, Kennesaw St, Cincinnati, UAB, Memphis, Rice, Kent State, Toledo, NIU, EMU, CMU, WMU, and we're working on UALR.
We'd welcome you guys in and not charge a dime. We have purchased our own monsterous colocated servers, and push several million hits a day no problem.
Cheers!
Well that's fitting. K-State really is on the sh1t side of the hill.
LOL. Well, the bright side is that with those listed beside "teams:", we'd probably be able to share related fball recruiting info. In on the same recruits.
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Have you e-mailed [email protected] yet? do your friggin job.
IT IS YOUR JOB
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i know what i'am about to say is stupid but we should get beasley to pay for the site since he will be making millions and since it is the least he could do for leaving us :thumbsup:
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Have you e-mailed [email protected] yet? do your friggin job.
IT IS YOUR JOB
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/5/04A/79A
Here is your squatter...lives in NY apparently.
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Those are just the ones we're #1 for. Got some fans from every conference hanging around (higher amounts in the ACC/SEC) ... but those are the ones where we're the #1 forum, instead of < insert name of crappy pay for recruiting site with crappy forums here > .
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Those are just the ones we're #1 for. Got some fans from every conference hanging around (higher amounts in the ACC/SEC) ... but those are the ones where we're the #1 forum, instead of < insert name of crappy pay for recruiting site with crappy forums here > .
:billypopcorn:
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Those are just the ones we're #1 for. Got some fans from every conference hanging around (higher amounts in the ACC/SEC) ... but those are the ones where we're the #1 forum, instead of < insert name of crappy pay for recruiting site with crappy forums here > .
:popcorn:
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No offense georgia_tech_swagger, but you're wasting your time here.
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The worst thing about the deadline being on May 15th, is that it will really be difficult to give an adequate summary of the Scott City Nut Fry.
When is it this year? I'm determined to make it this time.
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Those are just the ones we're #1 for. Got some fans from every conference hanging around (higher amounts in the ACC/SEC) ... but those are the ones where we're the #1 forum, instead of < insert name of crappy pay for recruiting site with crappy forums here > .
The site is for sale. If you're willing to buy the site, then please make an offer. If not, then please do not spam this board.
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MJ=whore.
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The worst thing about the deadline being on May 15th, is that it will really be difficult to give an adequate summary of the Scott City Nut Fry.
When is it this year? I'm determined to make it this time.
May 14th. Should be a great time.
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Did you get my payment? I haven't received a confirmation e-mail.
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Those are just the ones we're #1 for. Got some fans from every conference hanging around (higher amounts in the ACC/SEC) ... but those are the ones where we're the #1 forum, instead of < insert name of crappy pay for recruiting site with crappy forums here > .
The site is for sale. If you're willing to buy the site, then please make an offer. If not, then please do not spam this board.
In the waning days, mj finally pulls out the ban-o-matic.
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:loly:
Keep hope alive, boys. If you need donations, hit up the ku boards. We have a lot more money than you and if this place keeps you inbreds quarantined for the most part, I'm willing to help out. Besides, $2500 is pocket change to a ku grad.
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:loly:
Keep hope alive, boys. If you need donations, hit up the ku boards. We have a lot more money than you and if this place keeps you inbreds quarantined for the most part, I'm willing to help out. Besides, $2500 is pocket change to a ku grad.
maybe you could pass some along to all the ku bums asking me for money @ the city market.
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The worst thing about the deadline being on May 15th, is that it will really be difficult to give an adequate summary of the Scott City Nut Fry.
When is it this year? I'm determined to make it this time.
May 14th. Should be a great time.
QFT
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:loly:
Keep hope alive, boys. If you need donations, hit up the ku boards. We have a lot more money than you and if this place keeps you inbreds quarantined for the most part, I'm willing to help out. Besides, $2500 is pocket change to a ku grad.
Look everybody, Pete's first semi-coherent post on this board. :thumbsup:
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Did you get my payment? I haven't received a confirmation e-mail.
No. :(
Patrick, please re-submit your payment. If being a "lawyer" of sorts is not working out well for you, perhaps a career change is in order? Or have you already done that? Either way, we would like your money.
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Did you get my payment? I haven't received a confirmation e-mail.
Patrick
LOL
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I could be convinced to pony up a dollar for your cause. Maybe one dollar and 25 cents.
Every little bit helps! :)
Saul,
What is the donation total up to ?
:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:
$505.
Update?
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I could be convinced to pony up a dollar for your cause. Maybe one dollar and 25 cents.
Every little bit helps! :)
Saul,
What is the donation total up to ?
:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:
$505.
Update?
$555
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:loly:
Keep hope alive, boys. If you need donations, hit up the ku boards. We have a lot more money than you and if this place keeps you inbreds quarantined for the most part, I'm willing to help out. Besides, $2500 is pocket change to a ku grad.
Thanks Jarrod. Nice to see you spent 10 years at ku to get a $30,000-$45,000 paying job as an Admissions Representative at Pinnacle Career Institute. Just what every ku grad strives for. I'm sure you've got that $2500 just laying around. You're great in those Subway ads. Appears you've been going to Chipotle more often though.
(http://a586.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/121/m_d52e8cfc795e38847a45ee82babb27d1.jpg)
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:loly:
Keep hope alive, boys. If you need donations, hit up the ku boards. We have a lot more money than you and if this place keeps you inbreds quarantined for the most part, I'm willing to help out. Besides, $2500 is pocket change to a ku grad.
Thanks Jarrod. Nice to see you spent 10 years at ku to get a $30,000-$45,000 paying job as an Admissions Representative at Pinnacle Career Institute. Just what every ku grad strives for. I'm sure you've got that $2500 just laying around. You're great in those Subway ads. Appears you've been going to Chipotle more often though.
(http://a586.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/121/m_d52e8cfc795e38847a45ee82babb27d1.jpg)
8-)
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pete seems like a nice guy on phog.net, who would have ever guessed he was that dumb looking? :confused:
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who would have ever guessed he was that dumb looking?
not to brag, but i could tell.
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pete seems like a nice guy on phog.net, who would have ever guessed he was that dumb looking? :confused:
You saw that picture and thought Pete was the dumb looking one in the photo??? What the hell grew from his armpit???
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UPDATE:
We have reached $700. Thanks to all those who have donated.
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we have no chance at 2500.
why doesn't mjrod give you the site for free?
if he wants to make some coin after working so hard to keep this site up, he should sell it to scout. (10,000 > 2,500)
jmo.
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we have no chance at 2500.
Pretty much my thoughts. If we don't get close soon, i'm going to start a new site. Fwiw.
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we should probably start the move now. So we can re-direct people with this site still up.
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we should probably start the move now. So we can re-direct people with this site still up.
In any event, I must secure a hosting site. I am in the process of doing that. Before that happens, there is no new site, and there is no moving this site.
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we should probably start the move now. So we can re-direct people with this site still up.
In any event, I must secure a hosting site. I am in the process of doing that. Before that happens, there is no new site, and there is no moving this site.
I don't know if you care but using joomla/smf this site would be pretty easy to replicate (if that's the way you wanna go). just saying.
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we should probably start the move now. So we can re-direct people with this site still up.
In any event, I must secure a hosting site. I am in the process of doing that. Before that happens, there is no new site, and there is no moving this site.
God damn it. This is getting me worried.
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we should probably start the move now. So we can re-direct people with this site still up.
In any event, I must secure a hosting site. I am in the process of doing that. Before that happens, there is no new site, and there is no moving this site.
God damn it. This is getting me worried.
:ohno: :ohno: :ohno:
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Saul = Ron Prince of Message Boarding.
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we should probably start the move now. So we can re-direct people with this site still up.
In any event, I must secure a hosting site. I am in the process of doing that. Before that happens, there is no new site, and there is no moving this site.
I'll donate once the total gets over $1000, fwiw. A lot of people said they would if I recall....
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UPDATE:
We have reached $700. Thanks to all those who have donated.
is that the amount that has already been donated, or is that what has been promised to be donated?
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$710
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$710
If giving continued at this pace, where are we paced to be by deadline?
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$710
If giving continued at this pace, where are we paced to be by deadline?
Well short of the goal.
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we should probably start the move now. So we can re-direct people with this site still up.
In any event, I must secure a hosting site. I am in the process of doing that. Before that happens, there is no new site, and there is no moving this site.
I don't know if you care but using joomla/smf this site would be pretty easy to replicate (if that's the way you wanna go). just saying.
as a KSU grad, I will personally vouch for j@yh@wks when it comes to hosting. I've done business with him in the past (without knowing who he was) and he does excellent work.
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we should probably start the move now. So we can re-direct people with this site still up.
In any event, I must secure a hosting site. I am in the process of doing that. Before that happens, there is no new site, and there is no moving this site.
I don't know if you care but using joomla/smf this site would be pretty easy to replicate (if that's the way you wanna go). just saying.
as a KSU grad, I will personally vouch for j@yh@wks when it comes to hosting. I've done business with him in the past (without knowing who he was) and he does excellent work.
Well thank you for the kind words. Very appreciated.
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I'll build a site. I'm kind of like the Frank Martin of Message Board Hosting. Just need my Beasley/Walker.
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I'll build a site. I'm kind of like the Frank Martin of Message Board Hosting. Just need my Beasley/Walker.
You'll need BP as your Walker, and Beasley himself as your Beasley.
I mean, it's not like he's bound by NCAA rules anymore.
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Given up yet Saul?
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Status?
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I'm pretty sure Saul gave up.
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Today is a sad day. What is the latest on the new site, hosting, domian, etc.? :ohno:
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Today is a sad day. What is the latest on the new site, hosting, domian, etc.? :ohno:
Saul gave up the dream. Maybe he became a Baylor fan. They like to give up the dream a lot.
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I'll let you know tomorrow or the next day. Either way, we will have a place to call home.
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I'll let you know tomorrow or the next day. Either way, we will have a place to call home.
How many of the company servers have you managed to swindle?
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I'll let you know tomorrow or the next day. Either way, we will have a place to call home.
How many of the company servers have you managed to swindle?
:fatty:
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money update?
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money update?
$710
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On a serious note. Why would you want to try to finance this thing, and continue to (which already hasn't gone well) when you could move into an established community where all you would have to do is pay for a domain? Better board software with more features. And you can bring all the emotions (:woohoo:) It is nice to chat with other fans besides those pesky ku fans. I understand the accomplishment of building and running your own site but looking at some of the costs things migth get ugly. But I will enjoy the show. :billypopcorn:
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On a serious note. Why would you want to try to finance this thing, and continue to (which already hasn't gone well) when you could move into an established community where all you would have to do is pay for a domain? Better board software with more features. And you can bring all the emotions (:woohoo:) It is nice to chat with other fans besides those pesky ku fans. I understand the accomplishment of building and running your own site but looking at some of the costs things migth get ugly. But I will enjoy the show. :billypopcorn:
Let me introduce you to a couple of sites like that. They may be a better fit for you.
gopowercat.com (http://gopowercat.com)
KSUFans.com (http://KSUFans.com)
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Premium Membership: :bootyshake:
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Premium Membership: :bootyshake:
FITZ and seank thank you.
We feel sorry for you.
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I'll let you know tomorrow or the next day. Either way, we will have a place to call home.
:confused:
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I'll let you know tomorrow or the next day. Either way, we will have a place to call home.
:confused:
Still don't know.
:users:
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I could possible help out - I own my own hosting and design company (www.antares-dev.com) and am based out of OP, KS.
I have my own dedicated server in a managed data center - not quite as nice as the setup as the Jayhawk guy has. Our CPU is currently very under utilized (typically single-digits) and runs LAMP - our PHP/MySQL versions are still 4, but we're likely to upgrade within a very short period of time.
I'm a bit concerned about the bandwidth - what MJ said seems to be very high to me as I've got a vbullletin board that probably dwarfs this board running far far less bandwidth. If the board really does use that much bandwidth, you probably best be prepared to pay for it. It could also be this board software. SMF is shareware (a re-engineer of the YABB/SE board) and may not have the best caching/compression in place.
I probably wouldn't want to be the admin - Saul - if you want to take that on I can certainly give you the rights to do so.
I'm not a KSU grad - spent 3 years in MHK before finishing at WSU back in 86. My wife and youngest daughter are both KSU grads (06 & 07). I'm also CompuCat on the other boards - don't post much as I don't have a ton of time.
Please feel free to email me to discuss.
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I could possible help out - I own my own hosting and design company (www.antares-dev.com) and am based out of OP, KS.
I have my own dedicated server in a managed data center - not quite as nice as the setup as the Jayhawk guy has. Our CPU is currently very under utilized (typically single-digits) and runs LAMP - our PHP/MySQL versions are still 4, but we're likely to upgrade within a very short period of time.
I'm a bit concerned about the bandwidth - what MJ said seems to be very high to me as I've got a vbullletin board that probably dwarfs this board running far far less bandwidth. If the board really does use that much bandwidth, you probably best be prepared to pay for it. It could also be this board software. SMF is shareware (a re-engineer of the YABB/SE board) and may not have the best caching/compression in place.
I probably wouldn't want to be the admin - Saul - if you want to take that on I can certainly give you the rights to do so.
I'm not a KSU grad - spent 3 years in MHK before finishing at WSU back in 86. My wife and youngest daughter are both KSU grads (06 & 07). I'm also CompuCat on the other boards - don't post much as I don't have a ton of time.
Please feel free to email me to discuss.
The bandwidth runs around 250gb-300gb a month.
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Saul - we could probably handle that. Our server has around 1500G of bandwidth/mo and we're not running any where near that now as most of the client base is small business. As it stands right now, I see no need to be charging for any additional bandwidth. If this site grows and starts consuming more, I could see where we might have to.
I could also envision a model that if we got enough referral business from the site, we could run this site for no charge. If it helps in the interim, we could also probably run you for free too.
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vmedia.rivals.com/UserMedia/FanPagesPhoto/Gallery/222/O226850.png (http://vmedia.rivals.com/UserMedia/FanPagesPhoto/Gallery/222/O226850.png) Let the revolution begin!!!!!!!!!!!
:ksu:
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vmedia.rivals.com/UserMedia/FanPagesPhoto/Gallery/222/O226850.png (http://vmedia.rivals.com/UserMedia/FanPagesPhoto/Gallery/222/O226850.png) Let the revolution begin!!!!!!!!!!!
:ksu:
rofl, it wasn't me FYI
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vmedia.rivals.com/UserMedia/FanPagesPhoto/Gallery/222/O226850.png (http://vmedia.rivals.com/UserMedia/FanPagesPhoto/Gallery/222/O226850.png) Let the revolution begin!!!!!!!!!!!
:ksu:
what a fuggin joke. I'd rather go to KStatefans than that craphole.
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vmedia.rivals.com/UserMedia/FanPagesPhoto/Gallery/222/O226850.png (http://vmedia.rivals.com/UserMedia/FanPagesPhoto/Gallery/222/O226850.png) Let the revolution begin!!!!!!!!!!!
:ksu:
what a fuggin joke. I'd rather go to KStatefans than that craphole.
hey, it's a work in progress :(
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More of a piece of sh*t in progress. :peek:
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I guarantee that place would crash if it received half of the volume KSUFANS receives each day. Just a FWIW. :popcorn:
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I guarantee that place would crash if it received half of the volume KSUFANS receives each day. Just a FWIW. :popcorn:
Let's see what happens when I start post Ale and the gals on The Official "Get Totally Classless" Thread over on EMAW !
:cyclist: :cyclist: :cyclist: :cyclist:
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I guarantee that place would crash if it received half of the volume KSUFANS receives each day. Just a FWIW. :popcorn:
thanks for your vote of confidence, and you wonder why I didn't have anything to do with you?
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I guarantee that place would crash if it received half of the volume KSUFANS receives each day. Just a FWIW. :popcorn:
thanks for your vote of confidence, and you wonder why I didn't have anything to do with you?
Oh, dear.
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I guarantee that place would crash if it received half of the volume KSUFANS receives each day. Just a FWIW. :popcorn:
thanks for your vote of confidence, and you wonder why I didn't have anything to do with you?
Oh, dear.
I digress, it isn't even worth arguing over. If my server fails, so be it. I don't have a super duper quad processor or anything but I'm doing the best I can with what I have available to me at the current time. All I could see (from this thread) is that we clearly aren't making the money needed and that the only other option known to the general public is using some guy in nebraska.
I'm not here to compete or piss any one off. I also plan on adding my non-sensible dribble drabble on whatever board you guys end up creating too. :dancin:
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I guarantee that place would crash if it received half of the volume KSUFANS receives each day. Just a FWIW. :popcorn:
thanks for your vote of confidence, and you wonder why I didn't have anything to do with you?
Oh, dear.
I digress, it isn't even worth arguing over. If my server fails, so be it. I don't have a super duper quad processor or anything but I'm doing the best I can with what I have available to me at the current time. All I could see (from this thread) is that we clearly aren't making the money needed and that the only other option known to the general public is using some guy in nebraska.
I'm not here to compete or piss any one off. I also plan on adding my non-sensible dribble drabble on whatever board you guys end up creating too. :dancin:
Worst case its a nice place to hang out until all this crap works itself out. Kind of like classlesscats.com was until between the end of KSUFans.com and the beginning of ksufans.com
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i think it'll work out fine.
just have too many pretentious &@#%s here.
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My wife and youngest daughter are both KSU grads (06 & 07).
am i the only one concerned by the fact that your wife only graduated a year before your youngest daughter?
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Maybe his wife was 1906?
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My wife stayed home when our kids were little. She went back to school the same year Jessica did and they had planned to graduate together. That didn't work because "life happened" a couple of times during her schooling.
We actually bought a house in Manhattan because it was cheaper than the dorms. My wife was the property manager, my daughter stayed basically free, and the 2-3 other kids basically paid a cost on the mortgage. We made money on the tax right-offs. (Any maintenance, trips to Manhattan, et al were "property management") She'd either come her for weekends or I'd be up there.
Saul: Any word on what you want to attempt?
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Saul: Any word on what you want to attempt?
Not yet. I'll PM/email you when I'm ready.