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Title: Chances of bill and mike staying
Post by: #30Beasley#30 on March 23, 2008, 08:54:38 PM
am going to say 20% =[ what do you guys think
Title: Re: A bet to all of you guys
Post by: Skydog on March 23, 2008, 08:56:57 PM
Why post this?
Title: Re: Chances of bill and mike staying
Post by: doom on March 23, 2008, 09:05:36 PM
Mike: -4%

Bill: 45%


Title: Re: Chances of bill and mike staying
Post by: steve dave on March 23, 2008, 09:16:55 PM
We go through this a lot but I'll post the official updated correct percentages for players.

Mike 0%
Hoskins 0%
WW 0%
Bill 1%
Tyree 5%
Title: Re: Chances of bill and mike staying
Post by: doom on March 23, 2008, 09:22:12 PM
We go through this a lot but I'll post the official updated correct percentages for players.

Mike 0%
Hoskins 0%
WW 0%
Bill 1%
Tyree 5%


Oh, go fray your visor some more. 

What do you think will happen to Bill?  Makes the league, or goes late and ends up in Europe?
Title: Re: Chances of bill and mike staying
Post by: Pete on March 23, 2008, 09:27:55 PM
am going to say 20% =[ what do you guys think


I find these posts a &@#%ing affront to the base idea of business, economic theory, simple logic, every day common sense, and the basic nature of the universe.

BOTH ARE MOTHER &@#%ING GONE.   G &@#%ING O, &@#%ING N, &@#%ING E.  GONE.  &@#%ING GONE.

....no offense...just a pet peeve.

Title: Re: Chances of bill and mike staying
Post by: bam8485 on March 23, 2008, 10:33:06 PM
mike 1.4356437 %
Bill 78.9475 %
 
Title: Re: Chances of bill and mike staying
Post by: AzCat on March 23, 2008, 11:02:27 PM
am going to say 20% =[ what do you guys think


I find these posts a fracking affront to the base idea of business, economic theory, simple logic, every day common sense, and the basic nature of the universe.

BOTH ARE MOTHER frackING GONE.   G frackING O, frackING N, frackING E.  GONE.  frackING GONE.

....no offense...just a pet peeve.


+1

LOL @ the 'tards that don't think Bill has at least a coin-flip shot at being a late first round pick this year.   
Title: Re: Chances of bill and mike staying
Post by: BullHawkWheel on March 23, 2008, 11:07:50 PM
negative eleventy billion
Title: Re: Chances of bill and mike staying
Post by: steve dave on March 24, 2008, 09:55:06 AM
We go through this a lot but I'll post the official updated correct percentages for players.

Mike 0%
Hoskins 0%
WW 0%
Bill 1%
Tyree 5%


Oh, go fray your visor some more. 

What do you think will happen to Bill?  Makes the league, or goes late and ends up in Europe?

D-League.
Title: Re: Chances of bill and mike staying
Post by: jester66 on March 24, 2008, 10:18:54 AM
Both will return to KSU. 
Mission not yet accomplished.

KSU wins National Championship by 26 over Roy's Boy's in Tyler Hamsterblower's senior year.

Mike signs the most lucrative shoe contract ever for a college basketball player.  He plays 12 years in the NBA for a poorly run franchise, but makes the All-Star game in 9 of those years.  He goes on to write childrens books, in his adopted hometown of Manhattan. 

Lil Tiff ends up playing basketball for new coach Nicole Ohlde and leads KSU to a womens national championship.  Will be the first time that a brother and sister have been the NPOY, MVP of the tournament.

Bill goes late first round to whatever team got OJ Mayo this year.  The talented tandem end up winning 2 NBA rings.

Tyler Hansbrough signs with Lipton to endorse tea bags.  It turns out to be one of the greatest marketing campaigns ever.  Each week, Tyler will recount how it felt to be dunked on...In Turkish!!!


 :ksu: :ksu: :ksu:
Title: Re: Chances of bill and mike staying
Post by: WildGunman on March 24, 2008, 10:28:22 AM
Tyler Hansbrough signs with Lipton to endorse tea bags.  It turns out to be one of the greatest marketing campaigns ever.  Each week, Tyler will recount how it felt to be dunked on...In Turkish!!!

^  :lol:


In order to make an informed prediction, I need intel.  Has anyone spotted Mike and/or Bill in class today?  If they are already missing classes......  :crybaby:

In fact, we should start a running topic for keeping track of Mike and Bill classroom sightings.
Title: Re: Chances of bill and mike staying
Post by: jester66 on March 24, 2008, 10:31:45 AM
Bill spotted in the library today according to one poster.
Title: Re: Chances of bill and mike staying
Post by: BarryMcCockner on March 24, 2008, 10:43:05 AM
They better at least keep the GPA up through the end of the semester so they don't cost us scholarships...
Title: Re: Chances of bill and mike staying
Post by: Bookcat on March 24, 2008, 10:46:58 AM
Beasley won't stay and really shouldn't. Not when you're the #1 guy in a stacked draft.


Walker should stay but really won't. Not when you know you're numbers will go down without a guy like Beasley helping out in the other spot. Also, I don't think Walker cares for college at all.
Title: Re: Chances of bill and mike staying
Post by: AzCat on March 24, 2008, 11:32:38 AM
I don't think Walker cares for college at all.

Where, precisely, does this "common knowledge" that BW doesn't like college come from?  Has he told you that personally or are you basing your assumption on his comments last year about the new NBA rule and college not being for everyone? 
Title: Re: Chances of bill and mike staying
Post by: mjrod on March 24, 2008, 11:42:59 AM
I can't tell you what sports show I heard it on, but Walker has stated he really likes college life and that K-State is a lot of fun.

Some of you people are either hoping they'll leave or wishing it for it, but I'm not.  I WANT THEM TO STAY and build a modern legacy at K-State.

Nothing make me happier than watching squawks, horns, and trojan fans look sad of what we got.
Title: Re: Chances of bill and mike staying
Post by: AzCat on March 24, 2008, 12:12:48 PM
I can't tell you what sports show I heard it on, but Walker has stated he really likes college life and that K-State is a lot of fun.

I recall him saying similar things but we're continually assured by the folks here that he hates college, hates Manhattan, and hates KSU.  Interesting ... or not.
Title: Re: Chances of bill and mike staying
Post by: jaa1025 on March 24, 2008, 05:14:21 PM
Inside information:

Mike really wants to stay and would but his mother is pushing him hard to go $$$$$. Not a good chance from what I hear. He REALLY likes it here and LOVES being in college at KSU and doesn't want grow up and join the real world yet. Momma is pushing him hard though and a mother's voice is a hard one to ignore...I can understand though because I'd tell my son not to chance an injury or possible fall in the draft next year.

My source said that Bill is hard to read and this person isn't as close. "He knows that another year would do good for him, but he's just so hard to read and with his injury history...". (nothing new here). He/She had not clue what he's doing.

My 'source' is VERY close family friend of the Martin's and the other assistants and Frank is very open with his friends about things. He/She didn't know much about recruiting though but said that they (Frank, Anya, 'source' and Dolonte) went to a MHS game and he was scouting someone there...have no idea if it was from MHS or the team they were playing. He/she named another school that they were going to but I can't think of it and he/she didn't know names. He/She did say that Frank and Anya were very down to earth and great people but they don't really discuss bball all that much.
Title: Re: Chances of bill and mike staying
Post by: mjrod on March 24, 2008, 05:25:47 PM
Inside information:

Mike really wants to stay and would but his mother is pushing him hard to go $$$$$. Not a good chance from what I hear. He REALLY likes it here and LOVES being in college at KSU and doesn't want grow up and join the real world yet. Momma is pushing him hard though and a mother's voice is a hard one to ignore...I can understand though because I'd tell my son not to chance an injury or possible fall in the draft next year.

My source said that Bill is hard to read and this person isn't as close. "He knows that another year would do good for him, but he's just so hard to read and with his injury history...". (nothing new here). He/She had not clue what he's doing.

My 'source' is VERY close family friend of the Martin's and the other assistants and Frank is very open with his friends about things. He/She didn't know much about recruiting though but said that they (Frank, Anya, 'source' and Dolonte) went to a MHS game and he was scouting someone there...have no idea if it was from MHS or the team they were playing. He/she named another school that they were going to but I can't think of it and he/she didn't know names. He/She did say that Frank and Anya were very down to earth and great people but they don't really discuss bball all that much.

FYI, Mrs. Smith has said on several occasions that this is Mike's decision and if/when they make a decision, it will be done as a family, but she will do whatever Mike wants to do.

Title: Re: Chances of bill and mike staying
Post by: AzCat on March 24, 2008, 05:59:12 PM
FYI, Mrs. Smith has said on several occasions that this is Mike's decision and if/when they make a decision, it will be done as a family, but she will do whatever Mike wants to do.

I have some very nice beachfront property available over in Globe ....   :billypopcorn:
Title: Re: Chances of bill and mike staying
Post by: mjrod on March 24, 2008, 06:03:24 PM
FYI, Mrs. Smith has said on several occasions that this is Mike's decision and if/when they make a decision, it will be done as a family, but she will do whatever Mike wants to do.

I have some very nice beachfront property available over in Globe ....   :billypopcorn:

Hold that thought..
Title: Re: Chances of bill and mike staying
Post by: jaa1025 on March 24, 2008, 06:36:08 PM
Inside information:

Mike really wants to stay and would but his mother is pushing him hard to go $$$$$. Not a good chance from what I hear. He REALLY likes it here and LOVES being in college at KSU and doesn't want grow up and join the real world yet. Momma is pushing him hard though and a mother's voice is a hard one to ignore...I can understand though because I'd tell my son not to chance an injury or possible fall in the draft next year.

My source said that Bill is hard to read and this person isn't as close. "He knows that another year would do good for him, but he's just so hard to read and with his injury history...". (nothing new here). He/She had not clue what he's doing.

My 'source' is VERY close family friend of the Martin's and the other assistants and Frank is very open with his friends about things. He/She didn't know much about recruiting though but said that they (Frank, Anya, 'source' and Dolonte) went to a MHS game and he was scouting someone there...have no idea if it was from MHS or the team they were playing. He/she named another school that they were going to but I can't think of it and he/she didn't know names. He/She did say that Frank and Anya were very down to earth and great people but they don't really discuss bball all that much.

FYI, Mrs. Smith has said on several occasions that this is Mike's decision and if/when they make a decision, it will be done as a family, but she will do whatever Mike wants to do.



She has said that 'publicly', yes. I'm sure it will be a "family" decision, but my source said that she is pushing him one way. Ultimately, it's his decision, but when your mom says something, especially when you are young, you will likely listen. If she is pushing him, which I have no reason to believe other wise, then I would argue that she has his (and his families) best interest  in her heart. Risk vs Reward when he is close to the highest he can get going into the NBA. There is some other personal stuff that I can't share though about the situation, but his mom is doing what I'd do if I would be in their situation.
Title: Re: Chances of bill and mike staying
Post by: doom on March 24, 2008, 06:42:23 PM
what is she going to say?  "I'm telling him to go pro, Bitches!"  They have to keep up appearances.  They're gone.  I'm not mad at them, but I am frustrated that they keep saying that there is a decision to make.  Make millions or live in a dorm.  Hmm...... :think: 
Title: Re: Chances of bill and mike staying
Post by: mjrod on March 24, 2008, 06:52:57 PM
Inside information:

Mike really wants to stay and would but his mother is pushing him hard to go $$$$$. Not a good chance from what I hear. He REALLY likes it here and LOVES being in college at KSU and doesn't want grow up and join the real world yet. Momma is pushing him hard though and a mother's voice is a hard one to ignore...I can understand though because I'd tell my son not to chance an injury or possible fall in the draft next year.

My source said that Bill is hard to read and this person isn't as close. "He knows that another year would do good for him, but he's just so hard to read and with his injury history...". (nothing new here). He/She had not clue what he's doing.

My 'source' is VERY close family friend of the Martin's and the other assistants and Frank is very open with his friends about things. He/She didn't know much about recruiting though but said that they (Frank, Anya, 'source' and Dolonte) went to a MHS game and he was scouting someone there...have no idea if it was from MHS or the team they were playing. He/she named another school that they were going to but I can't think of it and he/she didn't know names. He/She did say that Frank and Anya were very down to earth and great people but they don't really discuss bball all that much.

FYI, Mrs. Smith has said on several occasions that this is Mike's decision and if/when they make a decision, it will be done as a family, but she will do whatever Mike wants to do.



She has said that 'publicly', yes. I'm sure it will be a "family" decision, but my source said that she is pushing him one way. Ultimately, it's his decision, but when your mom says something, especially when you are young, you will likely listen. If she is pushing him, which I have no reason to believe other wise, then I would argue that she has his (and his families) best interest  in her heart. Risk vs Reward when he is close to the highest he can get going into the NBA. There is some other personal stuff that I can't share though about the situation, but his mom is doing what I'd do if I would be in their situation.


I have issues with this:

My 'source' is VERY close family friend of the Martin's and the other assistants and Frank is very open with his friends about things.

I think you might be led on.
Title: Re: Chances of bill and mike staying
Post by: jaa1025 on March 24, 2008, 06:57:23 PM
what is she going to say?  "I'm telling him to go pro, Bitches!"  They have to keep up appearances.  They're gone.  I'm not mad at them, but I am frustrated that they keep saying that there is a decision to make.  Make millions or live in a dorm.  Hmm...... :think: 

I'm just passing the information along. Looking back, I wish I would have stayed in school longer because I had so many great experiences (even with the ramen noodles and pizza shuttle 7 days a week) since I couldn't afford better. Of course a 60k job a year isn't the millions he would postpone a year, but I'm sure its on his mind. He's moved around so much and finally he found a place where he's truly happy and enjoying life and feels like he belongs....does money buy that when it will be their next year barring injury?
Title: Re: Chances of bill and mike staying
Post by: jaa1025 on March 24, 2008, 06:59:27 PM
Inside information:

Mike really wants to stay and would but his mother is pushing him hard to go $$$$$. Not a good chance from what I hear. He REALLY likes it here and LOVES being in college at KSU and doesn't want grow up and join the real world yet. Momma is pushing him hard though and a mother's voice is a hard one to ignore...I can understand though because I'd tell my son not to chance an injury or possible fall in the draft next year.

My source said that Bill is hard to read and this person isn't as close. "He knows that another year would do good for him, but he's just so hard to read and with his injury history...". (nothing new here). He/She had not clue what he's doing.

My 'source' is VERY close family friend of the Martin's and the other assistants and Frank is very open with his friends about things. He/She didn't know much about recruiting though but said that they (Frank, Anya, 'source' and Dolonte) went to a MHS game and he was scouting someone there...have no idea if it was from MHS or the team they were playing. He/she named another school that they were going to but I can't think of it and he/she didn't know names. He/She did say that Frank and Anya were very down to earth and great people but they don't really discuss bball all that much.

FYI, Mrs. Smith has said on several occasions that this is Mike's decision and if/when they make a decision, it will be done as a family, but she will do whatever Mike wants to do.



She has said that 'publicly', yes. I'm sure it will be a "family" decision, but my source said that she is pushing him one way. Ultimately, it's his decision, but when your mom says something, especially when you are young, you will likely listen. If she is pushing him, which I have no reason to believe other wise, then I would argue that she has his (and his families) best interest  in her heart. Risk vs Reward when he is close to the highest he can get going into the NBA. There is some other personal stuff that I can't share though about the situation, but his mom is doing what I'd do if I would be in their situation.


I have issues with this:

My 'source' is VERY close family friend of the Martin's and the other assistants and Frank is very open with his friends about things.

I think you might be led on.


Its the parent of my best friend from highschool...I'm very confident of my source :)
Title: Re: Chances of bill and mike staying
Post by: mjrod on March 24, 2008, 07:00:16 PM
Inside information:

Mike really wants to stay and would but his mother is pushing him hard to go $$$$$. Not a good chance from what I hear. He REALLY likes it here and LOVES being in college at KSU and doesn't want grow up and join the real world yet. Momma is pushing him hard though and a mother's voice is a hard one to ignore...I can understand though because I'd tell my son not to chance an injury or possible fall in the draft next year.

My source said that Bill is hard to read and this person isn't as close. "He knows that another year would do good for him, but he's just so hard to read and with his injury history...". (nothing new here). He/She had not clue what he's doing.

My 'source' is VERY close family friend of the Martin's and the other assistants and Frank is very open with his friends about things. He/She didn't know much about recruiting though but said that they (Frank, Anya, 'source' and Dolonte) went to a MHS game and he was scouting someone there...have no idea if it was from MHS or the team they were playing. He/she named another school that they were going to but I can't think of it and he/she didn't know names. He/She did say that Frank and Anya were very down to earth and great people but they don't really discuss bball all that much.

FYI, Mrs. Smith has said on several occasions that this is Mike's decision and if/when they make a decision, it will be done as a family, but she will do whatever Mike wants to do.



She has said that 'publicly', yes. I'm sure it will be a "family" decision, but my source said that she is pushing him one way. Ultimately, it's his decision, but when your mom says something, especially when you are young, you will likely listen. If she is pushing him, which I have no reason to believe other wise, then I would argue that she has his (and his families) best interest  in her heart. Risk vs Reward when he is close to the highest he can get going into the NBA. There is some other personal stuff that I can't share though about the situation, but his mom is doing what I'd do if I would be in their situation.


I have issues with this:

My 'source' is VERY close family friend of the Martin's and the other assistants and Frank is very open with his friends about things.

I think you might be led on.


Its the parent of my best friend from highschool...I'm very confident of my source :)

So you went to High School in Miami?

I'm just curious.
Title: Re: Chances of bill and mike staying
Post by: jaa1025 on March 24, 2008, 07:08:59 PM
Nope...I grew up in Manhattan and thats where this person lives. He/She used to work with the university until a few years ago.    I'd send more details in a PM but theres only a couple people on this board that I would.
Title: Re: Chances of bill and mike staying
Post by: steve dave on March 24, 2008, 07:12:08 PM
Nope...I grew up in Manhattan and thats where this person lives. He/She used to work with the university until a few years ago.    I'd send more details in a PM but theres only a couple people on this board that I would.

Since I'm obviously one of them go ahead and shoot it to me I guess.
Title: Re: Chances of bill and mike staying
Post by: mjrod on March 24, 2008, 07:30:33 PM
Nope...I grew up in Manhattan and thats where this person lives. He/She used to work with the university until a few years ago.    I'd send more details in a PM but theres only a couple people on this board that I would.

I have no issue with that.. I'm just not convinced.   It's nothing personal against you.



Title: Re: Chances of bill and mike staying
Post by: jaa1025 on March 24, 2008, 08:00:26 PM
Nope...I grew up in Manhattan and thats where this person lives. He/She used to work with the university until a few years ago.    I'd send more details in a PM but theres only a couple people on this board that I would.

I have no issue with that.. I'm just not convinced.   It's nothing personal against you.





It's cool. I understand because I see a bunch of posts with "inside information" before and 90 percent seems bogus. I know I believe my friend and he/she has no reason to lie...I've seen proof on some of the home games personally of him/her in the stands right behind the team....and I know for a fact that he/she doesn't have season tickets.
Title: Re: Chances of bill and mike staying
Post by: mjrod on March 24, 2008, 08:11:53 PM
Nope...I grew up in Manhattan and thats where this person lives. He/She used to work with the university until a few years ago.    I'd send more details in a PM but theres only a couple people on this board that I would.

I have no issue with that.. I'm just not convinced.   It's nothing personal against you.





It's cool. I understand because I see a bunch of posts with "inside information" before and 90 percent seems bogus. I know I believe my friend and he/she has no reason to lie...I've seen proof on some of the home games personally of him/her in the stands right behind the team....and I know for a fact that he/she doesn't have season tickets.

Thanks for the PM.
Title: Re: Chances of bill and mike staying
Post by: doom on March 24, 2008, 09:29:56 PM
They pass out a lot of tickets, man. 
Title: Re: Chances of bill and mike staying
Post by: blackman-era-front-rower on March 25, 2008, 05:38:42 PM
mark janssen (manhattan mercury): What is your guess that Mike might do? Any gut feeling?

head coach frank martin: I think he's going to go, and I think it's the right thing to do, because he's going to be the top pick in the draft.

http://themercury.com/K-StateSports/article.aspx?articleId=db5793034a68434a8305e999adccec73 (http://themercury.com/K-StateSports/article.aspx?articleId=db5793034a68434a8305e999adccec73)

i guess we need to begin to deal with the realities!
 :cyclist:


Title: Re: Chances of bill and mike staying
Post by: doom on March 25, 2008, 07:47:16 PM
mark janssen (manhattan mercury): What is your guess that Mike might do? Any gut feeling?

head coach frank martin: I think he's going to go, and I think it's the right thing to do, because he's going to be the top pick in the draft.

http://themercury.com/K-StateSports/article.aspx?articleId=db5793034a68434a8305e999adccec73 (http://themercury.com/K-StateSports/article.aspx?articleId=db5793034a68434a8305e999adccec73)

i guess we I need to begin to deal with the realities!
 :cyclist:




There we go.  I'm a little sad, because I was holding out hope for Bill.  But Mike was gone, before he came.
Title: Re: Chances of bill and mike staying
Post by: McGrowlTowelZac on March 25, 2008, 07:54:35 PM
mark janssen (manhattan mercury): What is your guess that Mike might do? Any gut feeling?

head coach frank martin: I think he's going to go, and I think it's the right thing to do, because he's going to be the top pick in the draft.

http://themercury.com/K-StateSports/article.aspx?articleId=db5793034a68434a8305e999adccec73 (http://themercury.com/K-StateSports/article.aspx?articleId=db5793034a68434a8305e999adccec73)

i guess we I need to begin to deal with the realities!
 :cyclist:




There we go.  I'm a little sad, because I was holding out hope for Bill.  But Mike was gone, before he came.


But if they'd ask Delonte what he's say to Mike it might be something like this: "Mike, listen to me for a minute.  I know we go way back, and I love you like a brother.  I just gotta ask one last favor.  Come back for one more year, tribute your relationship with me, and let me get a little more love nationally.  Then I know I will be golden with GU."
Title: Re: Chances of bill and mike staying
Post by: fatty fat fat on March 25, 2008, 07:56:33 PM
Screw Frank.

'Te. Save us.
Title: Re: Chances of bill and mike staying
Post by: ksu_FAN on March 25, 2008, 08:32:29 PM
They're gone.  Pullen, Clemente, Sutton are the faces of K-State hoops.  And hopefully Tyree.
Title: Re: Chances of bill and mike staying
Post by: doom on March 25, 2008, 08:53:13 PM
They're gone.  Pullen, Clemente, Sutton are the faces of K-State hoops.  And hopefully Tyree.

What about Downtown Fred Brown?
Title: Re: Chances of bill and mike staying
Post by: McGrowlTowelZac on March 25, 2008, 09:15:54 PM
They're gone.  Pullen, Clemente, Sutton are the faces of K-State hoops.  And hopefully Tyree.

What about Downtown Fred Brown?

Hey didn't Downtown Terry Brown for ku have a goofy shot?  He was pretty decent though if I remember correctly.
Title: Re: Chances of bill and mike staying
Post by: cas on March 27, 2008, 09:01:58 PM
They're gone.  Pullen, Clemente, Sutton are the faces of K-State hoops.  And hopefully Tyree.

What about Downtown Fred Brown?

@ the Sacramento State game this season, these two old dude (powertards) were saying that Fred Brown was way overrated and that the real 'downtown threat' was james franklin.

old dude: "I remember when we signed Franklin out of HS, he was a stud. Kid's a real shooter."

Me=  :lol: