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Sports => Frank Martin's OOD sponsored by the "Angriest Fans in America" => Topic started by: Pett on March 22, 2008, 05:49:16 PM
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my thoughts exactly.
But who will be the new "team leader"?
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Seriously. crapty. Thread.
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my thoughts exactly.
But who will be the new "team leader"?
Darren Kent obviously. Who else is an an awkward untalented senior that the announcers can fall in love with?
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This is mean but Clent should have been pushed out also when Hugs took over.
He isn't D1 material. :blank:
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This is mean but Clent should have been pushed out also when Hugs took over.
pushing someone out is only useful if you bring in someone better. huggins guard recruiting was a disaster.
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Come on guys, Stewart was not the only reason why we lost games this year.
The guy gave 4 years of his life to K-State, & I am sure that he has enjoyed it. Trust me it is not easy being a student athlete, there is a lot of sacrifice. You have to train & practice all year long, & it is not easy. The guy lost his mom in the middle of the season, & that is tough enough.
Clent thanks for working hard for 4 years, you will always be a Wildcat. Good luck to you & your fiancée in life.
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Come on guys, Stewart was not the only reason why we lost games this year.
The guy gave 4 years of his life to K-State, & I am sure that he has enjoyed it. Trust me it is not easy being a student athlete, there is a lot of sacrifice. You have to train & practice all year long, & it is not easy. The guy lost his mom in the middle of the season, & that is tough enough.
Clent thanks for working hard for 4 years, you will always be a Wildcat. Good luck to you & your fiancée in life.
You would pull out the mothers death card.
Post by Family member? :jerkoff:
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He was to the end a real Wooly player.
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He was to the end a real Wooly player.
QFT. He really should have had more TO's, it seems like he gets bailed out of about 3 a game.
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I love the fact he finished with zero points.
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Come on guys, Stewart was not the only reason why we lost games this year.
The guy gave 4 years of his life to K-State, & I am sure that he has enjoyed it. Trust me it is not easy being a student athlete, there is a lot of sacrifice. You have to train & practice all year long, & it is not easy. The guy lost his mom in the middle of the season, & that is tough enough.
Clent thanks for working hard for 4 years, you will always be a Wildcat. Good luck to you & your fiancée in life.
You would pull out the mothers death card.
Post by Family member? :jerkoff:
No I am not a family member.
Jim Rome is douche bag but what he said one time is he doesn't rag on college players because they are not professionals & they don't get paid (Don't watch Rome that much so don't know if he sticks by this).
Stewart was not paid while playing at K-State (scholarship pays for school & food), he is not a professional athlete, but yet he has K-State students post online about how much he sucks. There is times when I get mad with how some K-State players play, but I get over it. I realize that they are sacrificing their body year around to play for K-State.
I sure as hell wouldn't post a "thank god Clent is gone" thread, that is pretty stupid. If he was getting paid a 6 or 7 figure salary then you can post whatever the hell you want.
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D-1 BCS college b-ball players are pros.
They get obscene amount of support from the U.
No excuses. He sucked ass.
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basing your criticism of another human being on their income is retarded, fyi.
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basing your criticism of another human being on their income is retarded, fyi.
What is retarded is saying how crappy a player is all year long when he is not a PROFESSIONAL ATHLETE. Pullen is going to be a good player for K-State, but there was a lot of :jerkoff: him off.
Pullen & Stewart both averaged 2.2 turnovers (Wisconsin game not in these stats)for the year. Let me also remind you that Clent played more minutes than Pullen, so his TO would be greater if he played Stewart's minutes.
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basing your criticism of another human being on their income is retarded, fyi.
What is retarded is saying how crappy a player is all year long when he is not a PROFESSIONAL ATHLETE. Pullen is going to be a good player for K-State, but there was a lot of :jerkoff: him off.
Pullen & Stewart both averaged 2.2 turnovers (Wisconsin game not in these stats)for the year. Let me also remind you that Clent played more minutes than Pullen, so his TO would be greater if he played Stewart's minutes.
Oh Dear God. Clent shot 34% for the year.
No KSU guard has shot worse than that since the 99-00 season.
KSU was 9-19 that year.
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I'd like my son to grow up to be like Clent. I don't want my school's point guard to be like him.
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Come on guys, Stewart was not the only reason why we lost games this year.
The guy gave 4 years of his life to K-State, & I am sure that he has enjoyed it. Trust me it is not easy being a student athlete, there is a lot of sacrifice. You have to train & practice all year long, & it is not easy. The guy lost his mom in the middle of the season, & that is tough enough.
Clent thanks for working hard for 4 years, you will always be a Wildcat. Good luck to you & your fiancée in life.
You would pull out the mothers death card.
Post by Family member? :jerkoff:
No I am not a family member.
Jim Rome is douche bag but what he said one time is he doesn't rag on college players because they are not professionals & they don't get paid (Don't watch Rome that much so don't know if he sticks by this).
Stewart was not paid while playing at K-State (scholarship pays for school & food), he is not a professional athlete, but yet he has K-State students post online about how much he sucks. There is times when I get mad with how some K-State players play, but I get over it. I realize that they are sacrificing their body year around to play for K-State.
I sure as hell wouldn't post a "thank god Clent is gone" thread, that is pretty stupid. If he was getting paid a 6 or 7 figure salary then you can post whatever the hell you want.
Seriously do not waste your voice on this issue here. These morons are insecure jagoffs who did not graduate from the school and the only the thing they look forward to is when to get drunk next or what cool new av equipment they are going to get from Best Buy.
Was the guy an All-American, HELL NO. But he gave this school his all for 4 years. The damn kid got robbed at gun point his first semester and his mom died of cancer his last and he didn't quit when so many should.
Ability to make 21 footers are much more important than humanity to nameless faceless internet fatasses.
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Always bringing up his mothers death as an excuse of why he's bad to average is so wrong.
Getting robbed at Tacobell is a new low for an excuse. :rolleyes:
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Always bringing up his mothers death as an excuse of why he's bad to average is so wrong.
Getting robbed at Tacobell is a new low for an excuse. :rolleyes:
He didn't get robbed at Taco Bell dumbcrap.
Don't post again until you know what the hell you are talking about. That means turn in the membership buddy.
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Down 10 after getting a stop, with a chance to cut it 8 or 7, with 5+ to play, we push the ball up and fire it to Clent in the corner. He gets antsy and drives the baseline. In a career defining moment, he steps OB, effectively killing me and any chance we had.
That said, I do not hate the guy. I consider him to be what he is. An average to below average NCAA D-1 player.
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Come on guys, Stewart was not the only reason why we lost games this year.
The guy gave 4 years of his life to K-State, & I am sure that he has enjoyed it. Trust me it is not easy being a student athlete, there is a lot of sacrifice. You have to train & practice all year long, & it is not easy. The guy lost his mom in the middle of the season, & that is tough enough.
Clent thanks for working hard for 4 years, you will always be a Wildcat. Good luck to you & your fiancée in life.
You would pull out the mothers death card.
Post by Family member? :jerkoff:
No I am not a family member.
Jim Rome is douche bag but what he said one time is he doesn't rag on college players because they are not professionals & they don't get paid (Don't watch Rome that much so don't know if he sticks by this).
Stewart was not paid while playing at K-State (scholarship pays for school & food), he is not a professional athlete, but yet he has K-State students post online about how much he sucks. There is times when I get mad with how some K-State players play, but I get over it. I realize that they are sacrificing their body year around to play for K-State.
I sure as hell wouldn't post a "thank god Clent is gone" thread, that is pretty stupid. If he was getting paid a 6 or 7 figure salary then you can post whatever the hell you want.
Ability to make 21 footers are much more important than humanity to nameless faceless internet fatasses.
i appreciate Clent and all he did for the school, etc, bleh. but he was recruited to play bball, not be an outstanding citizen. think about it.
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he was atrocious. hell, pullen had a bad game and you don't see me ripping him, because he's actually contributed this year.
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clent is a great kid, horrible d-1 bball player. i'd have killed to have my living/tuition payed for.
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I think horrible D-1 play goes too far. But was so-so, but played way too many minutes. He played 32 minutes in both NCAA games. Only Beasley played more today.
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I think horrible D-1 play goes too far. But was so-so, but played way too many minutes. He played 32 minutes in both NCAA games. Only Beasley played more today.
He should be playing at Washburn.
yes, he was horrible. The starting guards are the reason a team with two 1st round picks is an easy 2nd round out.
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Clent played when told to. I can't hate on him for that. I bet Beaz doesn't hate on him either.
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Always bringing up his mothers death as an excuse of why he's bad to average is so wrong.
Getting robbed at Tacobell is a new low for an excuse. :rolleyes:
He didn't get robbed at Taco Bell dumbcrap.
Don't post again until you know what the hell you are talking about. That means turn in the membership buddy.
Hey buddy. Why don't you read every post on this damn thread.
get a clue. another Clent family member. :jerkoff:
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Clent hit a couple of huge 3s in the ku game at the 'gon. That, in and of itself, is enough for me to give him props and wish him well in life.
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I think horrible D-1 play goes too far. But was so-so, but played way too many minutes. He played 32 minutes in both NCAA games. Only Beasley played more today.
He should be playing at Washburn.
yes, he was horrible. The starting guards are the reason a team with two 1st round picks is an easy 2nd round out.
thanks fatty, our guards were worse than beas/walker were good.
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How can u guys hate on clent! All he does is work his butt off day in and day out.
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Thanks Clent!
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How can u guys hate on clent! All he does is work his butt off day in and day out.
And not be very good at basketball.
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He had a family member die in mid-season and worked his a$$ off for four years only to have some punk-a$$ fans make posts like this. Typical "what have you done for me lately" KSU contingency.
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No one is hating on him. Seems like a cool dude.
And one of the worst senior guards in big 12 history.
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he doesnt bother me.
he didnt take us to the championship, or lose us any games more than anyone else.
i compare him to LA. not too hot. not too cold. a nice 72. all year round.
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I guess he (and blake) bother me because outsiders fail to realize how terrible they are, and still label us as a "talented" team which is laughable.
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How about not blaming Clent Stewart for Bob Huggins' inability to recruit an outside shooter.
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I guess he (and blake) bother me because outsiders fail to realize how terrible they are, and still label us as a "talented" team which is laughable.
i sometimes resent sutton because people can point to his recruit ranking without understanding how much of an offensive liability he is.
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I don't resent sutton at all. He was a frosh who showed up 8 weeks ago.
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I certainly appreciate the hard work of Clent Stewart, and wish him the best in his new life. He'll be a great individual and I'm sure will be successful in whatever endeavor he chooses.
That being said, he was not an impressive player, but he did play his heart out. There were times he was good, and other times he was bad. His play is certainly fair game. His family issues, however, all K-Staters are with him.
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I don't resent sutton at all. He was a frosh who showed up 8 weeks ago.
Wasn't he a four star?
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I don't resent sutton at all. He was a frosh who showed up 8 weeks ago.
lmbiq, lcalenderiq.
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This thread was just supposed to show that we aren't going to miss Clent Stewart the player......but Clent Stewart the person.
Good god guys, get a grip. Nobody is hating on CS as a human being. Just his :skillz:
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I don't resent sutton at all. He was a frosh who showed up 8 weeks ago.
Wasn't he a four star?
I thought three, like #103-130.
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Its so crazy hearing all this I was at a game and Clent got standing ovations and everything, students and faculity as well as media loved him, said he was talented, maybe he was a mess up at times, but we will miss Clent and all of our seniors, I am not one to dog any of my players but he did mess up a lot, its all good he is gone and we will miss ol' Stew.
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He really should have gone to Stanford. Anyone in any position, student athlete or not, should choose Stanford over KSU. WTF is wrong with him?
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He really should have gone to Stanford. Anyone in any position, student athlete or not, should choose Stanford over KSU. WTF is wrong with him?
He wanted to be close to his mother.
So really, we're the Stanford of the Midwest.
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I like Stew. He had an offer from Stanford and Vandy and still came here. He was solid up to the end of his junior year. This year he just didn't bring it. He wasn't athletic enough to fit into our system and got compared to Pullen too much. I wish him well, but we'll have a better PG lineup w/o him.
He was 116 in rivals rankings. KSU was close to home. The closest offer other than KSU was Tulsa.
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As a person I'm sure he's a great guy.
As a player he's a non-factor.
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Clent was never allowd to develop as a player because he never had a chance to play the position that he was recruited to play. He is not, and was never intended to be a point guard. He stepped into the position because Dez left a hole that had to be filled. Wooldridge and Huggins never recrutited a true point, and Clent's tenure at K-State suffered for it.
His true strength was leadership. His team respected him enough to drop everything and support him bad times. His coaches really liked him. Hell, Huggins had nothing but prais for him all of last year because he know Clent had to play out of position to fill team needs. He worked his ass off for four years, and the end result is a bunch of supposed fans bashing his every move.
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He worked his ass off for four years, and the end result is a bunch of supposed fans bashing his every move.
My thoughts exactly. The guy had some fantastic games in his career and yet people want to forget about that and focus only on the negative. I loved him as a player and wish everyone on the team had his work ethic. There is a reason he earned all that playing time all four years of his tenure here, and if you think he was not Big 12 material, you are delusional. Huggins was not impressed with him initially last year as he was coming off a knee injury, but he kept working as hard or harder than anyone on the team, and by the time conference play rolled around, even Huggins could not deny he deserved some big minutes.
What I really don't like is that current players and potential recruits see message boards like this quite often and when they see bashing of first class players like Clent Stewart in threads like this, they would have to conclude we have a really crappy fan base. They would certainly be asking themselves: "Why would I want to play for fans like that?" Bashing on current or former players is not being classy. I don't even mind booing the other team or booing the refs, but booing your own players or bashing them on a message board is just plain stupid IMHO.
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He worked his ass off for four years, and the end result is a bunch of supposed fans bashing his every move.
My thoughts exactly. The guy had some fantastic games in his career and yet people want to forget about that and focus only on the negative. I loved him as a player and wish everyone on the team had his work ethic. There is a reason he earned all that playing time all four years of his tenure here, and if you think he was not Big 12 material, you are delusional. Huggins was not impressed with him initially last year as he was coming off a knee injury, but he kept working as hard or harder than anyone on the team, and by the time conference play rolled around, even Huggins could not deny he deserved some big minutes.
What I really don't like is that current players and potential recruits see message boards like this quite often and when they see bashing of first class players like Clent Stewart in threads like this, they would have to conclude we have a really crappy fan base. They would certainly be asking themselves: "Why would I want to play for fans like that?" Bashing on current or former players is not being classy. I don't even mind booing the other team or booing the refs, but booing your own players or bashing them on a message board is just plain stupid IMHO.
I feel so ashamed. I am sure KSU is the only fanbase in nation that points out their players shortcomings.
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He worked his ass off for four years, and the end result is a bunch of supposed fans bashing his every move.
My thoughts exactly. The guy had some fantastic games in his career and yet people want to forget about that and focus only on the negative. I loved him as a player and wish everyone on the team had his work ethic. There is a reason he earned all that playing time all four years of his tenure here, and if you think he was not Big 12 material, you are delusional. Huggins was not impressed with him initially last year as he was coming off a knee injury, but he kept working as hard or harder than anyone on the team, and by the time conference play rolled around, even Huggins could not deny he deserved some big minutes.
What I really don't like is that current players and potential recruits see message boards like this quite often and when they see bashing of first class players like Clent Stewart in threads like this, they would have to conclude we have a really crappy fan base. They would certainly be asking themselves: "Why would I want to play for fans like that?" Bashing on current or former players is not being classy. I don't even mind booing the other team or booing the refs, but booing your own players or bashing them on a message board is just plain stupid IMHO.
I feel so ashamed. I am sure KSU is the only fanbase in nation that points out their players shortcomings.
The point is that shortcomings are all K-State fans seem to talk about these days. It's not even done in a constructive way. How about thanking the guy for working his ass off to represent our university in a positive light? How about noting his achievments? His B-Ball career is over. You should thank him for his dedication to our school.
Here's another way to look at it. What if his son is the number one recruit in the nation some day? Would you encourage your kid to go to a place where you weren't appreciated, and were you were bashed by the people who were supposed to support you the most.... your "fans"?
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He worked his ass off for four years, and the end result is a bunch of supposed fans bashing his every move.
My thoughts exactly. The guy had some fantastic games in his career and yet people want to forget about that and focus only on the negative. I loved him as a player and wish everyone on the team had his work ethic. There is a reason he earned all that playing time all four years of his tenure here, and if you think he was not Big 12 material, you are delusional. Huggins was not impressed with him initially last year as he was coming off a knee injury, but he kept working as hard or harder than anyone on the team, and by the time conference play rolled around, even Huggins could not deny he deserved some big minutes.
What I really don't like is that current players and potential recruits see message boards like this quite often and when they see bashing of first class players like Clent Stewart in threads like this, they would have to conclude we have a really crappy fan base. They would certainly be asking themselves: "Why would I want to play for fans like that?" Bashing on current or former players is not being classy. I don't even mind booing the other team or booing the refs, but booing your own players or bashing them on a message board is just plain stupid IMHO.
I feel so ashamed. I am sure KSU is the only fanbase in nation that points out their players shortcomings.
The point is that shortcomings are all K-State fans seem to talk about these days. It's not even done in a constructive way. How about thanking the guy for working his ass off to represent our university in a positive light? How about noting his achievments? His B-Ball career is over. You should thank him for his dedication to our school.
Here's another way to look at it. What if his son is the number one recruit in the nation some day? Would you encourage your kid to go to a place where you weren't appreciated, and were you were bashed by the people who were supposed to support you the most.... your "fans"?
So you're saying we should praise him in case his son is a top recruit?
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He worked his ass off for four years, and the end result is a bunch of supposed fans bashing his every move.
My thoughts exactly. The guy had some fantastic games in his career and yet people want to forget about that and focus only on the negative. I loved him as a player and wish everyone on the team had his work ethic. There is a reason he earned all that playing time all four years of his tenure here, and if you think he was not Big 12 material, you are delusional. Huggins was not impressed with him initially last year as he was coming off a knee injury, but he kept working as hard or harder than anyone on the team, and by the time conference play rolled around, even Huggins could not deny he deserved some big minutes.
What I really don't like is that current players and potential recruits see message boards like this quite often and when they see bashing of first class players like Clent Stewart in threads like this, they would have to conclude we have a really crappy fan base. They would certainly be asking themselves: "Why would I want to play for fans like that?" Bashing on current or former players is not being classy. I don't even mind booing the other team or booing the refs, but booing your own players or bashing them on a message board is just plain stupid IMHO.
I feel so ashamed. I am sure KSU is the only fanbase in nation that points out their players shortcomings.
The point is that shortcomings are all K-State fans seem to talk about these days. It's not even done in a constructive way. How about thanking the guy for working his ass off to represent our university in a positive light? How about noting his achievments? His B-Ball career is over. You should thank him for his dedication to our school.
Here's another way to look at it. What if his son is the number one recruit in the nation some day? Would you encourage your kid to go to a place where you weren't appreciated, and were you were bashed by the people who were supposed to support you the most.... your "fans"?
Go read a Duke, ATm or MArq board today champ.
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Everyone pees their pants. It's the coolest. You ain't cool, unless you pee your pants.
Hey look, Ernie peed his pants too. Alright! (high five)
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Everyone pees their pants. It's the coolest. You ain't cool, unless you pee your pants.
Hey look, Ernie peed his pants too. Alright! (high five)
If peeing your pants is cool, just call me Miles Davis.
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He worked his ass off for four years, and the end result is a bunch of supposed fans bashing his every move.
My thoughts exactly. The guy had some fantastic games in his career and yet people want to forget about that and focus only on the negative. I loved him as a player and wish everyone on the team had his work ethic. There is a reason he earned all that playing time all four years of his tenure here, and if you think he was not Big 12 material, you are delusional. Huggins was not impressed with him initially last year as he was coming off a knee injury, but he kept working as hard or harder than anyone on the team, and by the time conference play rolled around, even Huggins could not deny he deserved some big minutes.
What I really don't like is that current players and potential recruits see message boards like this quite often and when they see bashing of first class players like Clent Stewart in threads like this, they would have to conclude we have a really crappy fan base. They would certainly be asking themselves: "Why would I want to play for fans like that?" Bashing on current or former players is not being classy. I don't even mind booing the other team or booing the refs, but booing your own players or bashing them on a message board is just plain stupid IMHO.
I feel so ashamed. I am sure KSU is the only fanbase in nation that points out their players shortcomings.
The point is that shortcomings are all K-State fans seem to talk about these days. It's not even done in a constructive way. How about thanking the guy for working his ass off to represent our university in a positive light? How about noting his achievments? His B-Ball career is over. You should thank him for his dedication to our school.
Here's another way to look at it. What if his son is the number one recruit in the nation some day? Would you encourage your kid to go to a place where you weren't appreciated, and were you were bashed by the people who were supposed to support you the most.... your "fans"?
Go read a Duke, ATm or MArq board today champ.
It's ok to be an a$%, that guy over there is doing it too.
Consistency is key. You are consistently negative. It's one thing to say; "man, he had a bad night". But to say "I'm glad he's gone" is a different issue all together.
I love my almamater. I love my teams. I am a realist and I see shortcomings in of the programs that I adamantly support. I often get frustrated at what I see on the playing field, but I don't bash those that I claim to be a fan of.
I didn't realize it until I left Kansas, but K-State fans really are seen in a very negative light nationally. Beyond the simple perception of Kansas as being backwater and hickville (that goes for ku too), they see our fan base as a bunch of idiots. When I was a student in Manhattan, I thought this sentiment was reserved for angry drunken Colorado fans. I was shocked to find out that among the Big 12 fan base, that position is reserved for K-State.
You guys come on here and complain about the east coast bias, Jason Whitlock, ESPN's lack of coverage, etc... Have you ever wondered why ku, Oklahoma, and Nebraska continue to get coverage from all of those sources? It's because people around the country really don't like K-State. It sucks, but it’s true.
This has ramifications for the teams you "support". It hurts any chances of rebuilding our football and basketball programs and to sustain success. Bashing those that do make the commitment to play at K-State only perpetuates those national perceptions, and it certainly affects whether or not some recruits decide to come to Manhattan. Therefore, you are part of the problem.
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so people don't like K-State (and like Oklahoma, ku, nu) because we are posting things on a message board?
maybe someone else needs to re-evaluate what the hell they are talking about.
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so people don't like K-State (and like Oklahoma, ku, nu) because we are posting things on a message board?
maybe someone else needs to re-evaluate what the hell they are talking about.
people don't like K-State because they don't like our fans. Negativity on this message board is a symptom of the problem. It's not the cause.
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He worked his ass off for four years, and the end result is a bunch of supposed fans bashing his every move.
My thoughts exactly. The guy had some fantastic games in his career and yet people want to forget about that and focus only on the negative. I loved him as a player and wish everyone on the team had his work ethic. There is a reason he earned all that playing time all four years of his tenure here, and if you think he was not Big 12 material, you are delusional. Huggins was not impressed with him initially last year as he was coming off a knee injury, but he kept working as hard or harder than anyone on the team, and by the time conference play rolled around, even Huggins could not deny he deserved some big minutes.
What I really don't like is that current players and potential recruits see message boards like this quite often and when they see bashing of first class players like Clent Stewart in threads like this, they would have to conclude we have a really crappy fan base. They would certainly be asking themselves: "Why would I want to play for fans like that?" Bashing on current or former players is not being classy. I don't even mind booing the other team or booing the refs, but booing your own players or bashing them on a message board is just plain stupid IMHO.
I feel so ashamed. I am sure KSU is the only fanbase in nation that points out their players shortcomings.
The point is that shortcomings are all K-State fans seem to talk about these days. It's not even done in a constructive way. How about thanking the guy for working his ass off to represent our university in a positive light? How about noting his achievments? His B-Ball career is over. You should thank him for his dedication to our school.
Here's another way to look at it. What if his son is the number one recruit in the nation some day? Would you encourage your kid to go to a place where you weren't appreciated, and were you were bashed by the people who were supposed to support you the most.... your "fans"?
Go read a Duke, ATm or MArq board today champ.
It's ok to be an a$%, that guy over there is doing it too.
Consistency is key. You are consistently negative. It's one thing to say; "man, he had a bad night". But to say "I'm glad he's gone" is a different issue all together.
I love my almamater. I love my teams. I am a realist and I see shortcomings in of the programs that I adamantly support. I often get frustrated at what I see on the playing field, but I don't bash those that I claim to be a fan of.
I didn't realize it until I left Kansas, but K-State fans really are seen in a very negative light nationally. Beyond the simple perception of Kansas as being backwater and hickville (that goes for ku too), they see our fan base as a bunch of idiots. When I was a student in Manhattan, I thought this sentiment was reserved for angry drunken Colorado fans. I was shocked to find out that among the Big 12 fan base, that position is reserved for K-State.
You guys come on here and complain about the east coast bias, Jason Whitlock, ESPN's lack of coverage, etc... Have you ever wondered why ku, Oklahoma, and Nebraska continue to get coverage from all of those sources? It's because people around the country really don't like K-State. It sucks, but it’s true.
This has ramifications for the teams you "support". It hurts any chances of rebuilding our football and basketball programs and to sustain success. Bashing those that do make the commitment to play at K-State only perpetuates those national perceptions, and it certainly affects whether or not some recruits decide to come to Manhattan. Therefore, you are part of the problem.
1. Those teams get coverage from espn because they win. I can tell you though that uk's impression is from the Bucknell and Bradley games, not from their sweet posts on message boards.
2. I have lived in major metropolitan areas on the east coast, went to school with grads from duke, g'town, florida, unc, marquette, usc etc. Not one of them has any negative impression of ksu except that we just went out in second round when we have 2 first round NBA picks. that is negative impression. not our failure to throw message board flowers at the feet of a guy who just played 32 minutes and didn't score a point.
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He worked his ass off for four years, and the end result is a bunch of supposed fans bashing his every move.
My thoughts exactly. The guy had some fantastic games in his career and yet people want to forget about that and focus only on the negative. I loved him as a player and wish everyone on the team had his work ethic. There is a reason he earned all that playing time all four years of his tenure here, and if you think he was not Big 12 material, you are delusional. Huggins was not impressed with him initially last year as he was coming off a knee injury, but he kept working as hard or harder than anyone on the team, and by the time conference play rolled around, even Huggins could not deny he deserved some big minutes.
What I really don't like is that current players and potential recruits see message boards like this quite often and when they see bashing of first class players like Clent Stewart in threads like this, they would have to conclude we have a really crappy fan base. They would certainly be asking themselves: "Why would I want to play for fans like that?" Bashing on current or former players is not being classy. I don't even mind booing the other team or booing the refs, but booing your own players or bashing them on a message board is just plain stupid IMHO.
I feel so ashamed. I am sure KSU is the only fanbase in nation that points out their players shortcomings.
The point is that shortcomings are all K-State fans seem to talk about these days. It's not even done in a constructive way. How about thanking the guy for working his ass off to represent our university in a positive light? How about noting his achievments? His B-Ball career is over. You should thank him for his dedication to our school.
Here's another way to look at it. What if his son is the number one recruit in the nation some day? Would you encourage your kid to go to a place where you weren't appreciated, and were you were bashed by the people who were supposed to support you the most.... your "fans"?
Go read a Duke, ATm or MArq board today champ.
It's ok to be an a$%, that guy over there is doing it too.
Consistency is key. You are consistently negative. It's one thing to say; "man, he had a bad night". But to say "I'm glad he's gone" is a different issue all together.
I love my almamater. I love my teams. I am a realist and I see shortcomings in of the programs that I adamantly support. I often get frustrated at what I see on the playing field, but I don't bash those that I claim to be a fan of.
I didn't realize it until I left Kansas, but K-State fans really are seen in a very negative light nationally. Beyond the simple perception of Kansas as being backwater and hickville (that goes for ku too), they see our fan base as a bunch of idiots. When I was a student in Manhattan, I thought this sentiment was reserved for angry drunken Colorado fans. I was shocked to find out that among the Big 12 fan base, that position is reserved for K-State.
You guys come on here and complain about the east coast bias, Jason Whitlock, ESPN's lack of coverage, etc... Have you ever wondered why ku, Oklahoma, and Nebraska continue to get coverage from all of those sources? It's because people around the country really don't like K-State. It sucks, but it’s true.
This has ramifications for the teams you "support". It hurts any chances of rebuilding our football and basketball programs and to sustain success. Bashing those that do make the commitment to play at K-State only perpetuates those national perceptions, and it certainly affects whether or not some recruits decide to come to Manhattan. Therefore, you are part of the problem.
1. Those teams get coverage from espn because they win. I can tell you though that uk's impression is from the Bucknell and Bradley games, not from their sweet posts on message boards.
2. I have lived in major metropolitan areas on the east coast, went to school with grads from duke, g'town, florida, unc, marquette, usc etc. Not one of them has any negative impression of ksu except that we just went out in second round when we have 2 first round NBA picks. that is negative impression. not our failure to throw message board flowers at the feet of a guy who just played 32 minutes and didn't score a point.
Those teams get coverage because they increase viewership. They are marketable. They have a large fan base. We are ignored because we are a recent addition to the mix and have a small disliked fan base. Just like in football in the 90's, if we are lucky enough to remain in some form of a national spotlight in B-Ball, we will still be criticized by the national media because we are not liked.
I hope your negativity makes you happy someday.
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They increase viewership because they win. This isn't hard, if uk went through even 5 down years they would drop off the map like Atlantis. This state doesn't have enough sets of eyes to make anyone relevant. If you really think espn bases its coverage on whether they think ksu fans are negative then I am kind of concerned for you.
I am not overly negative...great year for the Cats, horrible year for Clent...both on and off the court.
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He worked his ass off for four years, and the end result is a bunch of supposed fans bashing his every move.
My thoughts exactly. The guy had some fantastic games in his career and yet people want to forget about that and focus only on the negative. I loved him as a player and wish everyone on the team had his work ethic. There is a reason he earned all that playing time all four years of his tenure here, and if you think he was not Big 12 material, you are delusional. Huggins was not impressed with him initially last year as he was coming off a knee injury, but he kept working as hard or harder than anyone on the team, and by the time conference play rolled around, even Huggins could not deny he deserved some big minutes.
What I really don't like is that current players and potential recruits see message boards like this quite often and when they see bashing of first class players like Clent Stewart in threads like this, they would have to conclude we have a really crappy fan base. They would certainly be asking themselves: "Why would I want to play for fans like that?" Bashing on current or former players is not being classy. I don't even mind booing the other team or booing the refs, but booing your own players or bashing them on a message board is just plain stupid IMHO.
I feel so ashamed. I am sure KSU is the only fanbase in nation that points out their players shortcomings.
The point is that shortcomings are all K-State fans seem to talk about these days. It's not even done in a constructive way. How about thanking the guy for working his ass off to represent our university in a positive light? How about noting his achievments? His B-Ball career is over. You should thank him for his dedication to our school.
Here's another way to look at it. What if his son is the number one recruit in the nation some day? Would you encourage your kid to go to a place where you weren't appreciated, and were you were bashed by the people who were supposed to support you the most.... your "fans"?
Go read a Duke, ATm or MArq board today champ.
It's ok to be an a$%, that guy over there is doing it too.
Consistency is key. You are consistently negative. It's one thing to say; "man, he had a bad night". But to say "I'm glad he's gone" is a different issue all together.
I love my almamater. I love my teams. I am a realist and I see shortcomings in of the programs that I adamantly support. I often get frustrated at what I see on the playing field, but I don't bash those that I claim to be a fan of.
I didn't realize it until I left Kansas, but K-State fans really are seen in a very negative light nationally. Beyond the simple perception of Kansas as being backwater and hickville (that goes for ku too), they see our fan base as a bunch of idiots. When I was a student in Manhattan, I thought this sentiment was reserved for angry drunken Colorado fans. I was shocked to find out that among the Big 12 fan base, that position is reserved for K-State.
You guys come on here and complain about the east coast bias, Jason Whitlock, ESPN's lack of coverage, etc... Have you ever wondered why ku, Oklahoma, and Nebraska continue to get coverage from all of those sources? It's because people around the country really don't like K-State. It sucks, but it’s true.
This has ramifications for the teams you "support". It hurts any chances of rebuilding our football and basketball programs and to sustain success. Bashing those that do make the commitment to play at K-State only perpetuates those national perceptions, and it certainly affects whether or not some recruits decide to come to Manhattan. Therefore, you are part of the problem.
1. Those teams get coverage from espn because they win. I can tell you though that uk's impression is from the Bucknell and Bradley games, not from their sweet posts on message boards.
2. I have lived in major metropolitan areas on the east coast, went to school with grads from duke, g'town, florida, unc, marquette, usc etc. Not one of them has any negative impression of ksu except that we just went out in second round when we have 2 first round NBA picks. that is negative impression. not our failure to throw message board flowers at the feet of a guy who just played 32 minutes and didn't score a point.
Those teams get coverage because they increase viewership. They are marketable. They have a large fan base. We are ignored because we are a recent addition to the mix and have a small disliked fan base. Just like in football in the 90's, if we are lucky enough to remain in some form of a national spotlight in B-Ball, we will still be criticized by the national media because we are not liked.
I hope your negativity makes you happy someday.
You are such an idiot, jesus fracking tits
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I didn't realize it until I left Kansas, but K-State fans really are seen in a very negative light nationally.
you must be pretty stupid if you had to leave kansas before you realized our fans are dumb, annoying bumble&@#%s.
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I didn't realize it until I left Kansas, but K-State fans really are seen in a very negative light nationally.
you must be pretty stupid if you had to leave kansas before you realized our fans are dumb, annoying bumblefracks.
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