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Title: Tyler Hansbrough...8-21 vs. Duke
Post by: Bookcat on March 08, 2008, 10:07:31 PM
lol

Beasley would be embarrassed if he played like that.


ESPN would probably have a Sportcenter bit about how Beasley's game is trailing off heading into March if he shot like that.
Title: Re: Tyler Hansbrough...8-21 vs. Duke
Post by: LimestoneOutcropping on March 08, 2008, 10:13:39 PM
But UNC won.  And POY should go to the guy who is on the highest ranked team.
Title: Re: Tyler Hansbrough...8-21 vs. Duke
Post by: ChiefCatchacold on March 08, 2008, 10:18:10 PM
dad-gum. scrappy.
Title: Re: Tyler Hansbrough...8-21 vs. Duke
Post by: Bookcat on March 08, 2008, 10:20:34 PM
But UNC won.  And POY should go to the guy who is on the highest ranked team.
Is the award for Team of the Year then?
Title: Re: Tyler Hansbrough...8-21 vs. Duke
Post by: FHSU92 on March 08, 2008, 10:25:13 PM
TH was supported (a.k.a, saved) by Green, Lawson, Ellington.

Beaz never has three others to 'help' win.
Title: Re: Tyler Hansbrough...8-21 vs. Duke
Post by: LimestoneOutcropping on March 08, 2008, 10:29:05 PM
TH was supported (a.k.a, saved) by Green, Lawson, Ellington.

Beaz never has three others to 'help' win.

Green is their 6th man right?

No wonder Roy sprinted out of Lawrence.  The talent he can pull at a national basketball power is reddickulous.
Title: Re: Tyler Hansbrough...8-21 vs. Duke
Post by: wescoe on March 08, 2008, 10:44:33 PM
It's not hard to understand guys.  Beasley is good.  But he doesn't help you guys win, because you suck.  He score 39 but you lose.  HA!  Terrible
Title: Re: Tyler Hansbrough...8-21 vs. Duke
Post by: Bullfn33 on March 08, 2008, 11:01:21 PM
It's not hard to understand guys.  Beasley is good.  But he doesn't help you guys win, because you suck.  He score 39 but you lose.  HA!  Terrible

If a team is an NCAA Tournament team, the argument for them sucking gets thrown out the window.  Beasley made a crappy team an NCAA Tournament team.  Hansbrough makes a really really good team a little bit better.  That's it.  He gets credit for his teammates being really good while Beasley is his team, which is another reason why the MVP argument is a complete joke.

UNC w/o Hansbrough = a top 10ish team, top 2-3 in the ACC, 2 seed in NCAA's

KSU w/o Beasley = 14-15 wins total, bottom half of the Big 12, no sniff of post-season
Title: Re: Tyler Hansbrough...8-21 vs. Duke
Post by: mcmwcat on March 08, 2008, 11:46:07 PM
It's not hard to understand guys.  Beasley is good.  But he doesn't help you guys win, because you suck.  He score 39 but you lose.  HA!  Terrible

sad but true










2 bad ksu = uk's bst win v yr
Title: Re: Tyler Hansbrough...8-21 vs. Duke
Post by: elvis151 on March 09, 2008, 12:41:41 AM
Look, I think Beasley is POY hands down.

But to laugh at Hansbrough's game tonight is just plain stupid. The guy had 16 points and 15 boards and was double teamed and bumped all night long. The guy did play his a#@ off and led his team to a big win against a great team.

Again, I think Beasley is a great player, and is hands down the player of the year. But Hansbrough is damn good
Title: Re: Tyler Hansbrough...8-21 vs. Duke
Post by: FHSU92 on March 09, 2008, 12:49:36 AM
Look, I think Beasley is POY hands down.

But to laugh at Hansbrough's game tonight is just plain stupid. The guy had 16 points and 15 boards and was double teamed and bumped all night long. The guy did play his a#@ off and led his team to a big win against a great team.

Again, I think Beasley is a great player, and is hands down the player of the year. But Hansbrough is damn good

I gotta go with Green as the UNC leader tonight.  Dude had at least 5 blocks to go w/ 18 pts.  T 'bro 1 blk and 8-21 from the field = playing @$$ off?
Title: Re: Tyler Hansbrough...8-21 vs. Duke
Post by: elvis151 on March 09, 2008, 12:58:03 AM
Green had a great game tonight; but you're cutting down Hansbrough because he didn't shoot well???

Great players still impact the game when they aren't shooting well. There are going to be games where you don't shoot well, but the guy still had 15 rebounds and 16 points and drew double teams all night long.

You don't have to cut down Hansbrough to make your case for Beasley being the POY. Hansbrough is a great player, and that makes Beasley's play even more impressive.
Title: Re: Tyler Hansbrough...8-21 vs. Duke
Post by: swish1 on March 09, 2008, 12:59:32 AM
Hansbrough is a great player, and that makes Beasley's play even more impressive.

how does psycho t make beasley more impressive?
Title: Re: Tyler Hansbrough...8-21 vs. Duke
Post by: swish1 on March 09, 2008, 01:00:10 AM
p.s.  he is the next reddick, morrisson, etc.
Title: Re: Tyler Hansbrough...8-21 vs. Duke
Post by: FHSU92 on March 09, 2008, 01:09:58 AM
Green had a great game tonight; but you're cutting down Hansbrough because he didn't shoot well???

Great players still impact the game when they aren't shooting well. There are going to be games where you don't shoot well, but the guy still had 15 rebounds and 16 points and drew double teams all night long.

You don't have to cut down Hansbrough to make your case for Beasley being the POY. Hansbrough is a great player, and that makes Beasley's play even more impressive.

Not cutting T 'bro down, but pimpin' Green.  Your downplaying Greens great game by saying TH was the leader.  My point...TH didn't have a great game, Green (and several others) did.  TH was not double teamed all night long.

btw, when did I bring MB/PotY into this thread?  Your point was TH was the leader and played his arse off...My point, Green and several other Heels were better & if that's (8-21 with 0 3pt attempts mind you) PYAO, that's not damn good...just good (Darnell Jackson good).
Title: Re: Tyler Hansbrough...8-21 vs. Duke
Post by: elvis151 on March 09, 2008, 01:20:50 AM
I'm not downplaying Green at all. I agree with you that he was outstanding tonight. And yes, Hansbrough has a great supporting cast.

The UNC players look to him as their leader and he was terrific tonight. So were some other guys.  And, I agree that it gets old always hearing about Pyscho T and all that; and the guy gets to the line more than he should.

Bottom line, we both agree that Beasley is the POY. I'm a ku fan and I hope the guy stays another year even though that means you guys will be damn good. I think he is good for college basketball and I love watching him play.
Title: Re: Tyler Hansbrough...8-21 vs. Duke
Post by: Nurf on March 09, 2008, 09:11:44 AM
Why would Beasley be embarrassed w/ an 8 for 21 shooting performance against a top 5 team.  BY ksufan standards, here is a list of Beasley's "embarrassing" performances:

Florida A&M - Beasley 7-16

KSU vs Notre Dame - Beasley 8-20

KSU vs. Wagner - Beasley 7-17

KSU vs Xavier - Beasley 1-6

KSU vs OSU - Beasley 8-19

KSU vs TT - Beasley 6-20

Title: Re: Tyler Hansbrough...8-21 vs. Duke
Post by: Pete on March 09, 2008, 09:40:49 AM
Why would Beasley be embarrassed w/ an 8 for 21 shooting performance against a top 5 team.  BY ksufan standards, here is a list of Beasley's "embarrassing" performances:

Florida A&M - Beasley 7-16

KSU vs Notre Dame - Beasley 8-20

KSU vs. Wagner - Beasley 7-17

KSU vs Xavier - Beasley 1-6

KSU vs OSU - Beasley 8-19

KSU vs TT - Beasley 6-20



Agreed.

How many boards did he have in those games?  I am lazy and don't want to go look it up.
Title: Re: Tyler Hansbrough...8-21 vs. Duke
Post by: Bookcat on March 09, 2008, 10:13:57 AM
Why would Beasley be embarrassed w/ an 8 for 21 shooting performance against a top 5 team.  BY ksufan standards, here is a list of Beasley's "embarrassing" performances:

Florida A&M - Beasley 7-16

KSU vs Notre Dame - Beasley 8-20

KSU vs. Wagner - Beasley 7-17

KSU vs Xavier - Beasley 1-6

KSU vs OSU - Beasley 8-19

KSU vs TT - Beasley 6-20



all double doubles


all without some guy named "Lawson".

yes. Those were not good games for him. Thanks for proving my point.
Title: Re: Tyler Hansbrough...8-21 vs. Duke
Post by: Ben on March 09, 2008, 03:15:20 PM
TH was supported (a.k.a, saved) by Green, Lawson, Ellington.

Beaz never has three others to 'help' win.

Green is their 6th man right?

No wonder Roy sprinted out of Lawrence.  The talent he can pull at a national basketball power is reddickulous.


Sherron Collins is the best 6th man in the country, dumbass.  Take notes.
Title: Re: Tyler Hansbrough...8-21 vs. Duke
Post by: fatty fat fat on March 09, 2008, 03:15:52 PM
TH was supported (a.k.a, saved) by Green, Lawson, Ellington.

Beaz never has three others to 'help' win.

Green is their 6th man right?

No wonder Roy sprinted out of Lawrence.  The talent he can pull at a national basketball power is reddickulous.


Sherron Collins is the best 6th man in the country, dumbass.  Take notes.

Awesome. Calling people "dumbass"

Title: Re: Tyler Hansbrough...8-21 vs. Duke
Post by: LimestoneOutcropping on March 09, 2008, 03:28:53 PM
TH was supported (a.k.a, saved) by Green, Lawson, Ellington.

Beaz never has three others to 'help' win.

Green is their 6th man right?

No wonder Roy sprinted out of Lawrence.  The talent he can pull at a national basketball power is reddickulous.


Sherron Collins is the best 6th man in the country, dumbass.  Take notes.

Green would start at ku.  dumbass.  Sports info from you is meaningless since the "BCS Bowl Selection committee" and "ku was awarded the north title by the Big 12" incidents.  Quit being a poser.  If you can.
Title: Re: Tyler Hansbrough...8-21 vs. Duke
Post by: Ben on March 09, 2008, 05:41:46 PM
Keep digging yourself a bigger hole, Limestone.  Sherron Collins would start for any team in the country... other than Kansas. 
Title: Re: Tyler Hansbrough...8-21 vs. Duke
Post by: MOKSUAZ on March 09, 2008, 06:09:40 PM
Keep digging yourself a bigger hole, Limestone.  Sherron Collins would start for any team in the country... other than Kansas. 

b/c great coaches would know to bench the alien and play collins.  and don't pull that seniority crap.  the better player plays. 
Title: Re: Tyler Hansbrough...8-21 vs. Duke
Post by: LimestoneOutcropping on March 09, 2008, 06:11:08 PM
Keep digging yourself a bigger hole, Limestone.  Sherron Collins would start for any team in the country... other than Kansas. 

Meltdown.

He wouldn't start at UCLA either.  Or UT.
Title: Re: Tyler Hansbrough...8-21 vs. Duke
Post by: The Nasti on March 09, 2008, 06:43:24 PM
But UNC won.  And POY should go to the guy who is on the highest ranked team.


This is the most ridiculous argument that people seem to be really buying......

Just watch the two guys play - that is all it takes to realize that Beasley is much better....

If TH even deserved to be in the same conversation as Beasley in terms of talent, then you can revert to the better team.....

Let's be honest if MB wasn't playing in a college town in rural KS, these "debates" would not even be happening.....
Title: Re: Tyler Hansbrough...8-21 vs. Duke
Post by: CatsNChiefs on March 09, 2008, 06:46:16 PM
Jacob Pullen >> Sherron Collins

Jacob Pullen does not start for KSU

Sherron Collins would not start for KSU




The logic is undeniable.
Title: Re: Tyler Hansbrough...8-21 vs. Duke
Post by: Ben on March 09, 2008, 06:48:28 PM
Jacob Pullen >> Sherron Collins

Jacob Pullen does not start for KSU

Sherron Collins would not start for KSU

The logic is undeniable.



Wow... just wow. 


 :lol:  :lol:  :lol: 
Title: Re: Tyler Hansbrough...8-21 vs. Duke
Post by: CatsNChiefs on March 09, 2008, 06:54:03 PM
Player A:  9.4 Pts (High 22, Game 1 ULMONROE)  1.9 Reb  2.8 Ast (High 7)

Player B:  10.1 Pts (High 20, Against Top 5 team) 1.5 Reb  3.3 Ast (High 8)
Title: Re: Tyler Hansbrough...8-21 vs. Duke
Post by: Ben on March 09, 2008, 06:55:49 PM
Damn, for a second there I thought you were joking. 
Title: Re: Tyler Hansbrough...8-21 vs. Duke
Post by: LimestoneOutcropping on March 09, 2008, 06:57:20 PM
Player A:  9.4 Pts (High 22, Game 1 ULMONROE)  1.9 Reb  2.8 Ast (High 7)

Player B:  10.1 Pts (High 20, Against Top 5 team) 1.5 Reb  3.3 Ast (High 8)

Wellllll, it seems like a trick question but I will have to say B is certainly the better player.  Stats are superior and has best game against best competition.  

Am I right?
Title: Re: Tyler Hansbrough...8-21 vs. Duke
Post by: CatsNChiefs on March 09, 2008, 06:57:31 PM
The second part yes, the first, obviously not.  Cause knowledge is power!!
Title: Re: Tyler Hansbrough...8-21 vs. Duke
Post by: CatsNChiefs on March 09, 2008, 06:58:02 PM
Player A:  9.4 Pts (High 22, Game 1 ULMONROE)  1.9 Reb  2.8 Ast (High 7)

Player B:  10.1 Pts (High 20, Against Top 5 team) 1.5 Reb  3.3 Ast (High 8)

Wellllll, it seems like a trick question but I will have to say B is certainly the better player.  Stats are superior and has best game against best competition.  

Am I right?

You are a man amongst boys my friend.
Title: Re: Tyler Hansbrough...8-21 vs. Duke
Post by: LimestoneOutcropping on March 09, 2008, 07:00:09 PM
Player A:  9.4 Pts (High 22, Game 1 ULMONROE)  1.9 Reb  2.8 Ast (High 7)

Player B:  10.1 Pts (High 20, Against Top 5 team) 1.5 Reb  3.3 Ast (High 8)

Wellllll, it seems like a trick question but I will have to say B is certainly the better player.  Stats are superior and has best game against best competition.  

Am I right?

You are a man amongst boys my friend.
:blush:
Title: Re: Tyler Hansbrough...8-21 vs. Duke
Post by: Ben on March 09, 2008, 07:05:40 PM
Jacob Pullen is the only guard on K-State's team with a pulse.  Must be nice.
Title: Re: Tyler Hansbrough...8-21 vs. Duke
Post by: CatsNChiefs on March 09, 2008, 07:09:46 PM
Jacob Pullen is the only guard on K-State's team with a pulse.  Must be nice.

Tap out, the best I could have hoped for I guess.  Good game, maybe next time.
Title: Re: Tyler Hansbrough...8-21 vs. Duke
Post by: Ben on March 09, 2008, 07:11:30 PM
I was under the impression you were joking, but apparently you're just a complete dumbass.  Congrats.
Title: Re: Tyler Hansbrough...8-21 vs. Duke
Post by: LimestoneOutcropping on March 09, 2008, 07:12:57 PM
I was under the impression you were joking, but apparently you're just a complete dumbass.  Congrats.

Surrendered.  That's nice.  I always thought you were a lot like the french.

Title: Re: Tyler Hansbrough...8-21 vs. Duke
Post by: CatsNChiefs on March 09, 2008, 07:16:44 PM
Perhaps he would like to wager which player has decreased his ast/game and increased his TO ratio from frosh to soph year?  Or which player has twice as many FTA?
Title: Re: Tyler Hansbrough...8-21 vs. Duke
Post by: Ben on March 09, 2008, 07:18:46 PM
I'm still laughing.  This is classic.


 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: Tyler Hansbrough...8-21 vs. Duke
Post by: CatsNChiefs on March 09, 2008, 07:21:31 PM
The french put up a bit of a fight, I'd say he's more of a Poland.
Title: Re: Tyler Hansbrough...8-21 vs. Duke
Post by: Ben on March 09, 2008, 07:27:47 PM
I could have sworn that last time Kansas played K-State Collins had 18 points on 7-12 shooting, to go along with 4 steals, 4 assists, and 3 boards.  Pullen had 3 points on 1-4 shooting to go along with 3 turnovers. 


That's as far as I'll go when it comes to arguing with dumbasses who have no concept of reality.
Title: Re: Tyler Hansbrough...8-21 vs. Duke
Post by: CatsNChiefs on March 09, 2008, 07:32:58 PM
@KSU

12 pts   1 of 2 FT's      2 Ast

20 pts   10 of 10 FT's   4 Ast


By the way, the law of averages is apparently quite beyond your primitive education.

Maybe I'll compare Bill Walker to Brandon or Darrell next, the differences there are much more glaring.
Title: Re: Tyler Hansbrough...8-21 vs. Duke
Post by: Ben on March 09, 2008, 07:34:03 PM
LOL... if you want to keep proving to everyone how much of an idiot you truly are, be my guest. 
Title: Re: Tyler Hansbrough...8-21 vs. Duke
Post by: MOKSUAZ on March 09, 2008, 07:38:59 PM
LOL... if you want to keep proving to everyone how much of an idiot you truly are, be my guest. 

nothing but zingers left and right today folks.  look out b/c his next act will be trying to prove a point logically.........  :popcorn:
Title: Re: Tyler Hansbrough...8-21 vs. Duke
Post by: CatsNChiefs on March 09, 2008, 07:40:48 PM
I'm starting to understand where I went wrong here, instead of math and facts, I should be using opinions and unfounded BS.


As in, Tyler is the NPOY because he is so tenacious, and scrappy, and works really super hard.  Wait, your new name is starting to make a lot more sense.
Title: Re: Tyler Hansbrough...8-21 vs. Duke
Post by: geezer on March 09, 2008, 07:46:53 PM
Actually nobody cares who the best player on an unranked team is.
That's what will make TH the player of the year.
And I do think Beasley is the first player on the NBA draft board.
Title: Re: Tyler Hansbrough...8-21 vs. Duke
Post by: CatsNChiefs on March 09, 2008, 07:48:42 PM
So which is it?

No one cares?

Or NBA GM's care?

You're going in circles.
Title: Re: Tyler Hansbrough...8-21 vs. Duke
Post by: geezer on March 09, 2008, 07:55:55 PM
So which is it?

No one cares?

Or NBA GM's care?

You're going in circles.

You are comprehending in circles.
Title: Re: Tyler Hansbrough...8-21 vs. Duke
Post by: CatsNChiefs on March 09, 2008, 07:58:16 PM
 :flush: