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Title: Undefeated in conference play?
Post by: chum1 on January 07, 2008, 10:58:20 AM
I'm not going to be so bold as to make this as a prediction on this particular board.  But, first of all, you can see how much better we've gotten over the course of the season thus far.  All I'm saying is that I wouldn't be surprised.  We could go undefeated in conference play.  It is a definite possibility.
Title: Re: Undefeated in conference play?
Post by: pissclams on January 07, 2008, 10:59:39 AM
cosign
Title: Re: Undefeated in conference play?
Post by: pissclams on January 07, 2008, 11:00:27 AM
*we really need to play together, as a team, for this to work
Title: Re: Undefeated in conference play?
Post by: pissclams on January 07, 2008, 11:01:08 AM
which begs the fairly obvious question-  when do we lose next? S16? FF? NC?
Title: Re: Undefeated in conference play?
Post by: sys on January 07, 2008, 11:02:04 AM
this thread is worthless with out pics.  so it has that going for it, which is nice.
Title: Re: Undefeated in conference play?
Post by: KSU187 on January 07, 2008, 11:43:12 AM
KSU 08'---- Big 12 Champions!!!!!!!!

National CHAMPIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Title: Re: Undefeated in conference play?
Post by: ksu_FAN on January 07, 2008, 11:54:23 AM
I don't know. 

1st, Nebraska is tough to beat in Lincoln.  (Maric  :ohno:)

2nd, we have to go to Baylor and we all know Drew has things turned around in Waco.  Plus, who could forget our last trip to play the Bears. ( :blindfold:)
Title: Re: Undefeated in conference play?
Post by: sys on January 07, 2008, 12:08:54 PM
we have to go to Baylor and we all know Drew has things turned around in Waco.

that was before losing to arkansas.  baylor is now a trainwreck again.
Title: Re: Undefeated in conference play?
Post by: RonnieQ104 on January 07, 2008, 12:21:11 PM
We got our asses handed to us by Xavier.  Now we're talking about going undefeated, Big 12 Champs and National Champs?!?!?!   

:banghead:  REALITY CHECK!!!

This board has become nothing more than a fairy tale.

Can we have some informative topics now, PLEASE????
Title: Re: Undefeated in conference play?
Post by: FHSU92 on January 07, 2008, 12:31:37 PM
KSU 08'---- Big 12 Champions!!!!!!!!

National CHAMPIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g233/lesgocats/kermit_avatar.gif)

I'd be happy with a b12 co-champ banner this year.  However, I want KSt8 to win the NC outright.
Title: Re: Undefeated in conference play?
Post by: sys on January 07, 2008, 12:32:43 PM
We got our asses handed to us by Xavier.  Now we're talking about going undefeated, Big 12 Champs and National Champs?!?!?!   

:banghead:  REALITY CHECK!!!

This board has become nothing more than a fairy tale.

Can we have some informative topics now, PLEASE????

we'll know a lot more about this team after tonight,  you're probably right, we should keep quiet until we see how the 'cats respond.  easy to understand why all the optimism though.
Title: Re: Undefeated in conference play?
Post by: michigancat on January 07, 2008, 12:35:34 PM
Who else has booked their hotel in San Antone?
Title: Re: Undefeated in conference play?
Post by: ksu_FAN on January 07, 2008, 12:36:35 PM
We got our asses handed to us by Xavier.  Now we're talking about going undefeated, Big 12 Champs and National Champs?!?!?!   

:banghead:  REALITY CHECK!!!

This board has become nothing more than a fairy tale.

Can we have some informative topics now, PLEASE????

we'll know a lot more about this team after tonight,  you're probably right, we should keep quiet until we see how the 'cats respond.  easy to understand why all the optimism though.


Good point.  Tonight's opponent beat a team coached by Larry Eustachy who once almost made it to the Final 4 (got hosed by the refs) and was a national coach of the year.  
Title: Re: Undefeated in conference play?
Post by: pufizzle on January 07, 2008, 12:47:24 PM
It's hard for me to try and stay objective and just prepare for 13-14 wins in the Big 12.  But, this team has something about them that 16-0 is not out of reach at all.  If you don't believe that, ask yourself this.  Is there a better starting five right now in the Big 12?    And the scary thing is, they are just now starting to click.  :drool:
Title: Re: Undefeated in conference play?
Post by: KSt8er on January 07, 2008, 12:49:23 PM
I always did think chum was a ku fan. 
Title: Re: Undefeated in conference play?
Post by: blackman-era-front-rower on January 07, 2008, 01:34:36 PM
another classic thread at the OoD!

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Title: Re: Undefeated in conference play?
Post by: mcmwcat on January 07, 2008, 01:35:36 PM
It's hard for me to try and stay objective and just prepare for 13-14 wins in the Big 12.  But, this team has something about them that 16-0 is not out of reach at all.  If you don't believe that, ask yourself this.  Is there a better starting five right now in the Big 12?    And the scary thing is, they are just now starting to click.  :drool:

not only do we have the best starting 5 we have the best 6th man in the league in Fred Brown.   :skillz:
Title: Re: Undefeated in conference play?
Post by: KSU187 on January 07, 2008, 01:49:58 PM
Look, we've got a great team, but they are still learning how to play together.  The more experience we get the better we will be.  Do I think we will win the natl championship? no. Big 12? doubt it.  But I think this team/program is heading in the right direction and we will be good for quite a while, especially with even more talent being brought in. :ksu:
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Title: Re: Undefeated in conference play?
Post by: sys on January 07, 2008, 01:54:12 PM
not only do we have the best starting 5 we have the best 6th man in the league in Fred Brown.   :skillz:

how many games would our 2nd 5 lose in conference?  i'd say both to our 1st 5, maybe 1 to ut or a&m, prolly split with the fighting marics, and then MAYBE drop another on the road somewhere.  so, 11-5.  not bad.
Title: Re: Undefeated in conference play?
Post by: seanr9ne on January 07, 2008, 01:58:10 PM
It's hard for me to try and stay objective and just prepare for 13-14 wins in the Big 12.  But, this team has something about them that 16-0 is not out of reach at all.  If you don't believe that, ask yourself this.  Is there a better starting five right now in the Big 12?    And the scary thing is, they are just now starting to click.  :drool:



 :rofl:

How about that undefeated Big 12 team
Title: Re: Undefeated in conference play?
Post by: mcmwcat on January 07, 2008, 02:08:11 PM
not only do we have the best starting 5 we have the best 6th man in the league in Fred Brown.   :skillz:

how many games would our 2nd 5 lose in conference?  i'd say both to our 1st 5, maybe 1 to ut or a&m, prolly split with the fighting marics, and then MAYBE drop another on the road somewhere.  so, 11-5.  not bad.

they'd take down A&M and UT at home but prolly couldn't handle lifooterthe Baylor Drew's down in Waco.  12-4.
Title: Re: Undefeated in conference play?
Post by: Chet Stedman on January 07, 2008, 02:12:18 PM
not only do we have the best starting 5 we have the best 6th man in the league in Fred Brown.   :skillz:

how many games would our 2nd 5 lose in conference?  i'd say both to our 1st 5, maybe 1 to ut or a&m, prolly split with the fighting marics, and then MAYBE drop another on the road somewhere.  so, 11-5.  not bad.

they'd take down A&M and UT at home but prolly couldn't handle lifooterthe Baylor Drew's down in Waco.  12-4.

12-4 for the second 5 would be a disaster.  I'd likely mail my diploma right back to President Wefald.  Who is going to stop Luis Colon in the paint?  Even if they double down on Luis you know that DK is going to make them pay from the perimeter.
Title: Re: Undefeated in conference play?
Post by: mcmwcat on January 07, 2008, 02:17:41 PM
not only do we have the best starting 5 we have the best 6th man in the league in Fred Brown.   :skillz:

how many games would our 2nd 5 lose in conference?  i'd say both to our 1st 5, maybe 1 to ut or a&m, prolly split with the fighting marics, and then MAYBE drop another on the road somewhere.  so, 11-5.  not bad.

they'd take down A&M and UT at home but prolly couldn't handle lifooterthe Baylor Drew's down in Waco.  12-4.

12-4 for the second 5 would be a disaster.  I'd likely mail my diploma right back to President Wefald.  Who is going to stop Luis Colon in the paint?  Even if they double down on Luis you know that DK is going to make them pay from the perimeter.

w/ Samuels arrival Colon is relegated to 3rd group of 5 which IMHO would prolly go 8-8 in conf considering they'd go 0-4 combined against our 1st 2 groups of 5
Title: Re: Undefeated in conference play?
Post by: sys on January 07, 2008, 02:22:17 PM
yep, colon is a 3rd 5er in my book too.

speaking of the 3rd 5, they might drop some games early with hoskins not being quite the defender he used to be after the injury.  but let's face facts.  we are not only good, but DEEP.  we have a couple of guys who could have had scholarships at a lot of schools, but CHOSE to walk on at ksu.

like i said, the 3rd 5 would take their lumps early, but when hoskins starts getting his mobility back, look out!  they would be a team no one would want to play in the big 12 tourney.
Title: Re: Undefeated in conference play?
Post by: Chet Stedman on January 07, 2008, 02:27:25 PM
yep, colon is a 3rd 5er in my book too.

speaking of the 3rd 5, they might drop some games early with hoskins not being quite the defender he used to be after the injury.  but let's face facts.  we are not only good, but DEEP.  we have a couple of guys who could have had scholarships at a lot of schools, but CHOSE to walk on at ksu.

like i said, the 3rd 5 would take their lumps early, but when hoskins starts getting his mobility back, look out!  they would be a team no one would want to play in the big 12 tourney.

3rd 5:

Colon
Franklin
Merriwether
Kent
Wheelchair bound Hoskins

I think they go 9-7.  mcmw I think you are underrating the kind of talent that WB Hoskins has.  You can spin around on those things.  Also take into account Franklin is shooting 33% on 3's this season and hit 100% of them against FAMU.  This would be a tough and gritty team to watch. 
Title: Re: Undefeated in conference play?
Post by: pissclams on January 07, 2008, 02:54:03 PM
Our 2008 recruiting class would probably go 7-9 in conference easily.
Here's my breakdown-

@ OU  Loss
Texas A&M Win!
@ CU Win!
ISU Win!
ku Win!
@ MU Win!
Nebraska Win F-You Maric!
OSU Sutton sucks Win!
@ Texas Tech Loss
MU Win!
@ Nebraska Win!
@ Baylor Win!
UT Win! 
@ku  Win! :hope:
Colorado Win!
@ Iowa State   Win!
Title: Re: Undefeated in conference play?
Post by: KSU187 on January 07, 2008, 02:58:12 PM
I bet Beasley and Walker stay...

Beasley will stay because he is still a kid, not quite ready for the NBA culture yet. Also, his mom will want him to stay one more year.

Walker will stay because the NBA could still have questions about injuries, especially if he gets banged up during big 12 play.. Beasley could overshadow him as well...

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Title: Re: Undefeated in conference play?
Post by: LimestoneOutcropping on January 07, 2008, 03:27:22 PM
not only do we have the best starting 5 we have the best 6th man in the league in Fred Brown.   :skillz:

how many games would our 2nd 5 lose in conference?  i'd say both to our 1st 5, maybe 1 to ut or a&m, prolly split with the fighting marics, and then MAYBE drop another on the road somewhere.  so, 11-5.  not bad.

they'd take down A&M and UT at home but prolly couldn't handle lifooterthe Baylor Drew's down in Waco.  12-4.

Our 3rd 5 would beat UT.  KSU owns ut.  It is just nature.
Title: Re: Undefeated in conference play?
Post by: ksuisthebest07 on January 07, 2008, 04:42:01 PM
I definitely see this happening. If not 16 wins, at least 11. AT LEAST. That'll be enough to start us on our road to the final four...and championship.
Title: Re: Undefeated in conference play?
Post by: cireksu on January 07, 2008, 04:55:43 PM
assuming we run the table in the big 12, do we get a 1 or a 2 seed in the tourney?  do we have to win the big 12 tourney to get a 1?  assuming the big 12 rpi is number 1?
Title: Re: Undefeated in conference play?
Post by: Javert on January 07, 2008, 05:14:46 PM
Scenario:  K-State beats ku and guarantees that we play in the conference tourney title game.  Is the conference champ guaranteed a spot in the NCAA tournament regardless of the RPI standings?

 :billypopcorn:





http://www.ksufans.com/forums/index.php?topic=19081.msg243540#msg243540 (http://www.ksufans.com/forums/index.php?topic=19081.msg243540#msg243540)
Title: Re: Undefeated in conference play?
Post by: catINdallas on January 07, 2008, 09:19:43 PM
Scenario:  K-State beats ku and guarantees that we play in the conference tourney title game.  Is the conference champ guaranteed a spot in the NCAA tournament regardless of the RPI standings?

 :billypopcorn:





http://www.ksufans.com/forums/index.php?topic=19081.msg243540#msg243540 (http://www.ksufans.com/forums/index.php?topic=19081.msg243540#msg243540)

I'd suggest you ask the BCS selection committee. :pray:
Title: Re: Undefeated in conference play?
Post by: fatty fat fat on January 07, 2008, 09:20:32 PM
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Undefeated in conference play?


Absolutely.
Title: Re: Undefeated in conference play?
Post by: pufizzle on January 07, 2008, 09:22:46 PM
It is seriously going to take someone's A++ game to beat us in conference.  We gave up one LUCKY 3 pointer in the second half.  That's it.  If we keep that up we are going to win every second half we play.   :ksu:
Title: Re: Undefeated in conference play?
Post by: BIGDAVEFREEMAN on January 07, 2008, 09:28:12 PM
It is seriously going to take someone's A++ game to beat us in conference.  We gave up one LUCKY 3 pointer in the second half.  That's it.  If we keep that up we are going to win every second half we play.   :ksu:

QFT
Title: Re: Undefeated in conference play?
Post by: d bag on January 08, 2008, 12:36:53 AM
If we don't make it to the Sweet 16 at least, I'll be disappointed.
Title: Re: Undefeated in conference play?
Post by: KCcat on January 08, 2008, 12:53:32 AM
I've been a cat fan all my life, through the good and bad years. I'll be in my seat wearing purple for every game but if you honestly think we are going to win a NC you are crazy and should go see a doctor. We make so many young mistakes, and we don't have the option of waiting for these players to mature, by that time it will be to late and they will be in the NBA. At least they can say they stopped by the little apple.
Title: Re: Undefeated in conference play?
Post by: mcmwcat on January 08, 2008, 12:56:36 AM
I've been a cat fan all my life, through the good and bad years. I'll be in my seat wearing purple for every game but if you honestly think we are going to win a NC you are crazy and should go see a doctor. We make so many young mistakes, and we don't have the option of waiting for these players to mature, by that time it will be to late and they will be in the NBA. At least they can say they stopped by the little apple.

It's pessimistic crap like this that keeps the team from reaching its full potential.  The blame lies squarely on you if we lose again this year thus ruining our magical ride.

 :ksu:
Title: Re: Undefeated in conference play?
Post by: KCcat on January 08, 2008, 01:01:24 AM
I've been a cat fan all my life, through the good and bad years. I'll be in my seat wearing purple for every game but if you honestly think we are going to win a NC you are crazy and should go see a doctor. We make so many young mistakes, and we don't have the option of waiting for these players to mature, by that time it will be to late and they will be in the NBA. At least they can say they stopped by the little apple.

It's pessimistic crap like this that keeps the team from reaching its full potential.  The blame lies squarely on you if we lose again this year thus ruining our magical ride.

 :ksu:

not pessimistic, realistic.
Title: Re: Undefeated in conference play?
Post by: seanr9ne on January 08, 2008, 01:03:49 AM
Is this a joke? Kstate is probably 5-6th at best in the Big XII
Title: Re: Undefeated in conference play?
Post by: wildcatsnation on January 08, 2008, 06:21:33 AM
I wouldn't be surprised if we could possibly win a #3 seed after we win the Big 12 Title. We got a shot to go deep in the NCAA tournament.
Title: Re: Undefeated in conference play?
Post by: wildcatsnation on January 08, 2008, 06:26:36 AM
I bet Beasley and Walker stay...

Beasley will stay because he is still a kid, not quite ready for the NBA culture yet. Also, his mom will want him to stay one more year.


There is no way Beasley is staying.
Title: Re: Undefeated in conference play?
Post by: Trog on January 08, 2008, 06:47:03 AM
I nominate the last 4 posts as "Posts of the Month" :dancin:

We will hold an invitation only caucus at the end of the month before awarding the winner their Katpak.
Title: Re: Undefeated in conference play?
Post by: frankencat on January 08, 2008, 10:17:41 AM
I talked to Bill Murray at the Rock A Belly last night and he said we're definatley, IN THE HOLE, as far as the tourney goes 8-)
Title: Re: Undefeated in conference play?
Post by: ksuisthebest07 on January 08, 2008, 10:38:21 AM
K-State is already half way there. 10 wins. 10 more and we're in. That's easy. I'm projecting 25 wins. 3 seed.
Title: Re: Undefeated in conference play?
Post by: Chet Stedman on January 08, 2008, 11:13:31 AM
I bet Beasley and Walker stay...

Beasley will stay because he is still a kid, not quite ready for the NBA culture yet. Also, his mom will want him to stay one more year.


There is no way Beasley is staying only 3 years...

Fixed.  The only question is do we win 3 NC's or 4 in his time here?
Title: Re: Undefeated in conference play?
Post by: blackman-era-front-rower on January 08, 2008, 01:22:02 PM
I bet Beasley and Walker stay...

Beasley will stay because he is still a kid, not quite ready for the NBA culture yet. Also, his mom will want him to stay one more year.


There is no way Beasley is staying only 3 years...

Fixed.  The only question is do we win 3 NC's or 4 in his time here?

a bit of clarification... by "NC's" do you mean non-conference games?

 :cyclist:
Title: Re: Undefeated in conference play?
Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 08, 2008, 02:26:52 PM
Piss and Chum better ice down their reels:

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?S=172#s=172&f=2481&t=1810886
Title: Re: Undefeated in conference play?
Post by: seanr9ne on January 08, 2008, 05:04:17 PM
K-State is already half way there. 10 wins. 10 more and we're in. That's easy. I'm projecting 25 wins. 3 seed.


Yea...non-con is over buddy....now you have to play collegiate teams
Title: Re: Undefeated in conference play?
Post by: pissclams on January 08, 2008, 06:52:29 PM
K-State is already half way there. 10 wins. 10 more and we're in. That's easy. I'm projecting 25 wins. 3 seed.


Yea...non-con is over buddy....now you have to play collegiate teams
our SoS is > yours
Title: Re: Undefeated in conference play?
Post by: fatty fat fat on January 08, 2008, 07:04:45 PM
Piss and Chum better ice down their reels:

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?S=172#s=172&f=2481&t=1810886

:rolleyes:

you tard. this has nothing to do with "fishing"
Title: Re: Undefeated in conference play?
Post by: seanr9ne on January 09, 2008, 01:54:17 AM
K-State is already half way there. 10 wins. 10 more and we're in. That's easy. I'm projecting 25 wins. 3 seed.


Yea...non-con is over buddy....now you have to play collegiate teams
our SoS is > yours


Our team is >>> yours
Title: Re: Undefeated in conference play?
Post by: dmartin on January 09, 2008, 07:52:25 AM
I just ran out and put my life savings on KSU winning the big 12 tourney.  That's how good I feel about this team!!  EMAW!!
Title: Re: Undefeated in conference play?
Post by: Cat Maniac on January 12, 2008, 07:30:18 PM
Our 2008 recruiting class would probably go 7-9 in conference easily.
Here's my breakdown-

@ OU  Loss
Texas A&M Win!
@ CU Win!
ISU Win!
ku Win!
@ MU Win!
Nebraska Win F-You Maric!
OSU Sutton sucks Win!
@ Texas Tech Loss
MU Win!
@ Nebraska Win!
@ Baylor Win!
UT Win! 
@ku  Win! :hope:
Colorado Win!
@ Iowa State   Win!


pissclams is such a pessimist...  :peek: