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Sports => Snyder's Electronic Cyber Space World => Topic started by: ksuno1stunner on June 03, 2006, 05:58:30 PM
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I'm glad for the change, especially on offense. Hopefully the offense can be two-dimensional now.
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Yes.
His offenses were God.
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bring him back! :crybaby: :crybaby: :crybaby:
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You're fooling yourself if you think that Snyder's recruiting classes are anything to brag about. Besides, his highest rated recruits were never his best players. Never.
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His Classes pre-2002 were very good. The ones w/Stoops and Venebales were excellent.
http://www.mo-kanfootball.com/subscribers/news¬es.htm
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Here's a new flash Fatty ... Stoops and Venables have been gone for a long time. There a reason why KSU's starting DE's were 6-2 240 pound walkons.
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I want our late-90's coordinators back.
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No thanks on Ron Hudson.
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His Classes pre-2002 were very good. The ones w/Stoops and Venebales were excellent.
http://www.mo-kanfootball.com/subscribers/news¬es.htm
good lord :eek:
what an amazing class
notice the stars in that class were more highly touted
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LOL @ Joe Hall
Joe Hall Palomar CC, CA. A 6-3, 275, RB. Wow! Says it's down to KSU, UNLV and Utah. Will visit Hawaii this weekend. He said he's not interested in Hawaii. But wouldn't you take the trip. I know I would.
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Sniffles
Who is KSU going to get at QB? It looks like Brandon Everage is leaning to KSU. The National Recruiting Advisor is reporting that. I've heard he's such a good athlete he might play DB. I'm a gambling man so I bet Ell Roberson will end up in Manhattan.
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ansas State: The bar has been raised in Manhattan. Kansas State can now get into the living rooms of national blue-chip recruits. Being number one in a poll never hurts. Right now there are a lot players who say all they need to do is get an offer from KSU and they are going. There are many players in the MO-KAN who KSU is recruiting, but they have set their sights on several players from outside the area. Their biggest targets from Kansas are two players in Wichita and they are hitting Blue Springs hard. Very few staffs work harder than KSU's. I still haven't been able to get a solid beat on what area KSU is targeting because they are all over the country. We will rely on some soucres from outside the area to keep us informed on KSU. We have talked with over 75 recruits in the last month and the perception of KSU's program is at an all-time high.
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there's no way you can read this and be happy with the way things are going now
i'm depressed
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a commit from Keck, Smith, lawrence or Reed would help
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there's no way you can read this and be happy with the way things are going now
i'm depressed
You're right. The class we have coming in has no potential like those guys had.
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there's no way you can read this and be happy with the way things are going now
i'm depressed
You're right. The class we have coming in has no potential like those guys had.
the guys with better accolades in that class ended up better than the nobodies. our current class is filled with nobodies.
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there's no way you can read this and be happy with the way things are going now
i'm depressed
You're right. The class we have coming in has no potential like those guys had.
the guys with better accolades in that class ended up better than the nobodies. our current class is filled with nobodies.
I know. No one has heard of these guys outside of Prince and Co.
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Yep .... nobody else besides KSU has even heard of, recruited or even offered one guy KSU has committed.
Mangino and assistant and Hawkins and assistant made in school visits to Justin Woods simply because they wanted to tour the school.
Indiana, Missouri, UTEP and Michigan State offered Sonnier because they had never heard of him.
Nebraska, Missouri, ku and others offered LaMark Brown because they had never heard of him.
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Yep .... nobody else besides KSU has even heard of, recruited or even offered one guy KSU has committed.
Mangino and assistant and Hawkins and assistant made in school visits to Justin Woods simply because they wanted to tour the school.
Indiana, Missouri, UTEP and Michigan State offered Sonnier because they had never heard of him.
Nebraska, Missouri, ku and others offered LaMark Brown because they had never heard of him.
is that all you can come up with in a class of 14??? :banghead:
lol, mangino and hawkins? are you kidding me? you happy ksu's competing with THAT?
omgomg, indiana, mizzou, utep, and msu!!!! football powerhouses!!!
now lamark brown is a badass mother&@#%er. too bad we don't have him anymore
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Yep .... nobody else besides KSU has even heard of, recruited or even offered one guy KSU has committed.
Mangino and assistant and Hawkins and assistant made in school visits to Justin Woods simply because they wanted to tour the school.
Indiana, Missouri, UTEP and Michigan State offered Sonnier because they had never heard of him.
Nebraska, Missouri, ku and others offered LaMark Brown because they had never heard of him.
is that all you can come up with in a class of 14??? :banghead:
lol, mangino and hawkins? are you kidding me? you happy ksu's competing with THAT?
omgomg, indiana, mizzou, utep, and msu!!!! football powerhouses!!!
now lamark brown is a badass motherF**Ker. too bad we don't have him anymore
He wasn't that great. He only had one offer from a top 25 school.
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just look at him:
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BAMF
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just look at him:
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BAMF
Yeah, looks should get him at least 1 or 2 stars.
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just look at him:
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BAMF
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Why are you crying over a recruit that doesn't have many offers from Top 25 teams?
That just means we can open up for a better recruit.
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http://www.slhsfm.com/Brown6.jpg
1636 x 2208 resolutions of lamark :jerkoff: :jerkoff: :jerkoff:
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http://www.slhsfm.com/Brown6.jpg
1636 x 2208 resolutions of lamark :jerkoff: :jerkoff: :jerkoff:
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Dude, your sig always cracked me up.
gp.com tards, "MAKE IT SMALLER oR WE BAN YOu!!!"
dumbcraps.
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This class totally blows. If Lamark Brown doesn't commit, who will the big name recruit from this class? There won't be one, and even having Brown as the top recruit in a class sucks.
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i loved that sig. it was my life :crybaby: what a bunch of bitches
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#1, #2, #3, #6, #7, #77!!! "GREATEST CLASS EVER"!!!! suck it ku!
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Kevin Love..LOL
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Fatty, Stunner, GROW UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lets see how good these guys are when they get on the field mmk? you know at the end of the day recruiting raitings don't mean a d@mn
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His Classes pre-2002 were very good. The ones w/Stoops and Venebales were excellent.
http://www.mo-kanfootball.com/subscribers/news¬es.htm
I wouldn't call any class not in the top ten 'excellent.' I also don't think Snyder really ever actually had a top 25 class. And winning many of the MO-KAN battles doesn't impress me either. (I'm having trouble believing that it impresses you.)
Here's another funny thing about Snyder vs. Prince. Snyder never landed a recruit as highly rated as Freeman.
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His Classes pre-2002 were very good. The ones w/Stoops and Venebales were excellent.
http://www.mo-kanfootball.com/subscribers/news¬es.htm
I wouldn't call any class not in the top ten 'excellent.' I also don't think Snyder really ever actually had a top 25 class. And winning many of the MO-KAN battles doesn't impress me either. (I'm having trouble believing that it impresses you.)
Here's another funny thing about Snyder vs. Prince. Snyder never landed a recruit as highly rated as Freeman.
OK. So Snyder's classes weren't that great.
But they weren't this bad. Ever. Not even close.
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OK. So Snyder's classes weren't that great.
But they weren't this bad. Ever. Not even close.
Who knows? Snyder didn't exactly set the bar that high in the area of recruiting rankings (see your source below). If we finish strong, we could easily be in the same ballpark as his average classes. We will need to finish strong, though.
This is one of the top two classes ever signed by Bill Snyder. Final grade…85 %. (Top 30 class)
http://www.mo-kanfootball.com/subscribers/kstate.htm
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I want to try that Snyder HC/Venables DC thingy for a while.
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I'm glad for the change, especially on offense. Hopefully the offense can be two-dimensional now.
Brilliant. :rolleyes:
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I'm glad for the change, especially on offense. Hopefully the offense can be two-dimensional now.
Brilliant. :rolleyes:
Do you wish you lived in the days before forward passes were allowed?
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I'm glad for the change, especially on offense. Hopefully the offense can be two-dimensional now.
Brilliant. :rolleyes:
Do you wish you lived in the days before forward passes were allowed?
Seriously, do you know ANYTHING about football?
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I'm glad for the change, especially on offense. Hopefully the offense can be two-dimensional now.
Brilliant. :rolleyes:
Do you wish you lived in the days before forward passes were allowed?
Seriously, do you know ANYTHING about football?
Yes. Why do you ask?
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If you do, you certainly aren't showing it.
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When was the last time we had a respectable passing offense?
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Results-wise...I would have to go with '03...however, it never went away...and was always pretty innovative.
Yes, he got a little more conservative the last 2 years...I'm guessing that was for various reasons.
I'm still of the opinion that he was loyal to a fault and a couple of dimwit assistants and lazy recruiters led to his demise.
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Results-wise...I would have to go with '03...however, it never went away...and was always pretty innovative.
Yes, he got a little more conservative the last 2 years...I'm guessing that was for various reasons.
I'm still of the opinion that he was loyal to a fault and a couple of dimwit assistants and lazy recruiters led to his demise.
Stunning analysis.
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Do you even realize how unoriginal and unfunny you are?
Is it your entire purpose to just hang out and annoy the crap out of people?
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Results-wise...I would have to go with '03
Good Call.
67. Kansas State
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/sortables?stat=team&group=80&year=2003&sort=passypg
edit to sort on respectable pass yards/game
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Do you even realize how unoriginal and unfunny you are?
Is it your entire purpose to just hang out and annoy the S**T out of people?
You loved me untill I hated wooldridge.
Fact.
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BTW Chum, you are totally wrong here. Snyder had a very EFFICIENT passing game.
But WN is still brain-dead.
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Snyder had a very EFFICIENT passing game.
At its peak, Snyder's passing game was the definition of efficiency. Run, option, run, option, run, fake option deep bomb for TD.
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Snyder had a very EFFICIENT passing game.
At its peak, Snyder's passing game was the definition of efficiency. Run, option, run, option, run, fake option deep bomb for TD.
You forgot to add.. occassionally, call the play with 9 seconds left on the 25 second clock.
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Run, option, run, option, run, fake option deep bomb for TD.
My initial claim was about having a true two-dimensional offense. The above approach worked great against weaker teams, but our inability to pass with any consistency hurt us in big games.
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Run, option, run, option, run, fake option deep bomb for TD.
My initial claim was about having a true two-dimensional offense. The above approach worked great against weaker teams, but our inability to pass with any consistency hurt us in big games.
I think it was 1999 when on the season we had 2302 passing yards and 2302 rushing yards.
Yeah....in the big games we'd sometimes struggle passing the ball...but that is why they are big game..they are tough.
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occassionally, call the play with 9 seconds left on the 25 second clock
If by "occasionally," you mean "3 out of every 4 plays...including coming out of a timeout"...
My initial claim was about having a true two-dimensional offense.
Why would you want a two-dimensional offense when you can have a three-dimensional offense (option, run, pass) ?
The above approach worked great against weaker teams, but our inability to pass with any consistency hurt us in big games.
Yes, it hurt us to the tune of four-straight eleven win seasons...back-to-back wins against Texas...wins against Tennessee and Washington in bowl games...and pastings of Nebraska at Nebraska and #1 OU in 2003...perhaps the two games that best showed the potential in that offense when the right personnel were on the field. It was an offense that took advantage of a quarterback with a strong but not always accurate arm and minimized the potential for turnovers through the air.
Our problems in big games were a result of fumbles, defensive lapses, and extraordinary play by the other team's offense, not a lack of big plays by our own. When that offense clicked, it was a thing of beauty.
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I think it was 1999 when on the season we had 2302 passing yards and 2302 rushing yards.
How many rushes and passes, though? Balance isn't about yardage, it's about play distribution. We've been a run-oriented team for quite a while now. Unfortunately, our running quarterbacks were not the most accurate passers. They just weren't.
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Yes, it hurt us to the tune of four-straight eleven win seasons...back-to-back wins against Texas...wins against Tennessee and Washington in bowl games...and pastings of Nebraska at Nebraska and #1 OU in 2003...perhaps the two games that best showed the potential in that offense when the right personnel were on the field. It was an offense that took advantage of a quarterback with a strong but not always accurate arm and minimized the potential for turnovers through the air.
Our problems in big games were a result of fumbles, defensive lapses, and extraordinary play by the other team's offense, not a lack of big plays by our own. When that offense clicked, it was a thing of beauty.
My impression is that we had a top ten defense that would always need to bail out an offense that just went three and out. I'm definitely not complaining about the success, but I think that, of the three units, the offense was the weakest, and that the passing game was the weakest part of the offense.
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KSU's offense when clicking was a thing a beauty, but it never played an entire game. Even in the ku mauling in 2002, Snyder reigned it in.
I have no doubt that Prince has been consulting with Snyder on the offense, and from what I heard from Catbackers in Beloit, apparently, he and Franklin have been students in the Snyder offense.
It would just totally kick ass if on the first play of the game in the first game if we saw an option to the short side of the field with Florida Atlantic expecting a WCO play.
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I remember in 2003 every game we lost (a touchdown or less) we had given up a non-offensive TD.
Let's break this down. 2 periods, the 1st three 11 wins seasons vs the 2nd threee 11 wins seasons
97 Losses
NU - We weren't as good
98 Losses
Aggy - Defense Failed
Purdue - Defense Failed
99 Losses
NU - We weren't as good
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OU - Defense gave up 34 points - Defense failed
Aggy - Offense only put up 10 points - Offense Failed
OU - Offense Failed
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CU - Defense failed Big-Time
UT - Offense Failed
03
Marshall - Both Failed (Gave up a non defensive TD..lost by 7)
Texas - Offense Failed( Gave up a non defensive TD..lost by 4)
OSU - Defense Failed (Gave up a non defensive TD..lost by 7)
OSU - Both Failed (Gave up a non defensive TD..lost by 7)
Seems pretty even to me. The problem with our losses in the 00's compared to the losses in the 90's is we played sloppy. We turned it over wayy to much and we gave up stupid touchdowns. The 90's teams played alot smarter.
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The problem with our losses in the 00's compared to the losses in the 90's is we played sloppy. We turned it over wayy to much and we gave up stupid touchdowns. The 90's teams played alot smarter.
No doubt.
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The 02 and 03 teams statistically were utterly amazing. They lost games by 4,3,7,4,7,7 points.
In 2002, the lack of passing game killed us vs Colorado (I was there...this one hurts alot because we were alot better of a team) and vs Texas
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Six seasons....13 losses. :hookem:
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2 Seasons ... 13 losses.
One dimensional offense in 2004, sociopathic handling of QB's in 2005, piss poor defense and crap special teams both years ... absolute $hit at taking care of the football both years, mental mistakes and penalites all damn day.
All point to serious decline in coaching and talent.
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2 Seasons ... 13 losses.
One dimensional offense in 2004, sociopathic handling of QB's in 2005, piss poor defense and crap special teams both years ... absolute $hit at taking care of the football both years.
All point to serious decline in coaching and talent.
OK! Chill out.
Sorry for remembering the good times of our legendary coach. :banghead:
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2 Seasons ... 13 losses.
One dimensional offense in 2004, sociopathic handling of QB's in 2005, piss poor defense and crap special teams both years ... absolute $hit at taking care of the football both years.
All point to serious decline in coaching and talent.
OK! Chill out.
Sorry for remembering the good times of our legendary coach. :banghead:
Ok.
But when are you going to chill out about recruiting and bitching about a coaching staff who hasn't even coached one real game, and signing day is 8 months away??
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You are worried about it as well.
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You are worried about it as well.
I've got a lot more in my life to "worry" about then football recruiting. But I am concerned, just like I have been concerned every year for 30 years about KSU's recruiting and coaching.
You have turned things like the 1999 recruiting class into some delusion of grandeur ... that was a nice class, but KSU didn't go toe-to-toe with any of the recruiting super powers that year and land one kid. Buhl ... it was between KSU and Solich ... wow!! Tough Choice there. Roberson ... what?? A 3 star recruit maybe.
That's why I don't get it. Our best players over the years were recruiting "nobodies" and suddenly you've deluded yourself into thinking we should land 25 of the Rivals Top 100. Recruiting has changed ... which is one reason we had no depth at the O-line, and started walkons at DE.
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I think it was 1999 when on the season we had 2302 passing yards and 2302 rushing yards.
How many rushes and passes, though? Balance isn't about yardage, it's about play distribution. We've been a run-oriented team for quite a while now. Unfortunately, our running quarterbacks were not the most accurate passers. They just weren't.
Oh christ....
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Here's another one that makes me laugh. I see people on the net saying "Prince had MEGA TALENT" at Virginia and didn't do anything with it.
BS ... he had MEGA talent one year, and they were the highest rated offense in the ACC and the 24th best offense in the country, plus here's the deal. That same year .... the ACC had EIGHT .... THAT's EIGHT of the Top 30 defenses in the Country, including #1, #4, #7, and #12.
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Oh christ....
I'm glad you finally agree with me.
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KSU's offense when clicking was a thing a beauty, but it never played an entire game. Even in the ku mauling in 2002, Snyder reigned it in.
I have no doubt that Prince has been consulting with Snyder on the offense, and from what I heard from Catbackers in Beloit, apparently, he and Franklin have been students in the Snyder offense.
It would just totally kick ass if on the first play of the game in the first game if we saw an option to the short side of the field with Florida Atlantic expecting a WCO play.
wouldnt it be better to run WCO plays against them the whole game and do that to a team that was actually decent?
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Oh christ....
I'm glad you finally agree with me.
Look Rusty! It's Hawker13 reincarnated as a KSU fan.
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See how it was. Isn't this better?
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We're going to get blown out a lot this year due to Snyder's stupid, sluggish run offense.
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We're going to get blown out a lot this year due to Snyder's stupid, sluggish run offense.
We won't get blown out because of said sluggish run offense, we might keep some games close enough to win, voila! :beerchug:
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See how it was. Isn't this better?
not really, no