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Sports => Snyder's Electronic Cyber Space World => Topic started by: Racquetball_Ninja on October 02, 2007, 12:24:52 AM
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It just dawned on me how fast this team is when I watched Johnson, Nelson, Campbell take their scores to the house. I know they're only 3 players but our team speed has increased from last year and that's very exciting.
In my head I keep hearing the ABC announcer talk about how Nelson proves that you don't have to have 10.2 speed to be great. My ass Nelson doesn't have 10.2 speed considering he holds the KSHAA records in both the 100M - 10.63 & 200M - 21.64. Both of those records were set in 2003 when he was a high school kid, that dude is built like a man now and more importantly he's built like a NFL receiver; he reminds me of a muscular Ed Mccaffrey.
Thoughts?
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It just dawned on me how fast this team is when I watched Johnson, Nelson, Campbell take their scores to the house. I know they're only 3 players but our team speed has increased from last year and that's very exciting.
you do realize all those guys were on the team last year?
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It just dawned on me how fast this team is when I watched Johnson, Nelson, Campbell take their scores to the house. I know they're only 3 players but our team speed has increased from last year and that's very exciting.
you do realize all those guys were on the team last year?
Which is why I would make a statement like, "our team speed has INCREASED from last year."
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It just dawned on me how fast this team is when I watched Johnson, Nelson, Campbell take their scores to the house. I know they're only 3 players but our team speed has increased from last year and that's very exciting.
In my head I keep hearing the ABC announcer talk about how Nelson proves that you don't have to have 10.2 speed to be great. My ass Nelson doesn't have 10.2 speed considering he holds the KSHAA records in both the 100M - 10.63 & 200M - 21.64. Both of those records were set in 2003 when he was a high school kid, that dude is built like a man now and more importantly he's built like a NFL receiver; he reminds me of a muscular Ed Mccaffrey.
Thoughts?
I see more of a Wes Welker role for Jordy on Sundays.
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It just dawned on me how fast this team is when I watched Johnson, Nelson, Campbell take their scores to the house. I know they're only 3 players but our team speed has increased from last year and that's very exciting.
you do realize all those guys were on the team last year?
Which is why I would make a statement like, "our team speed has INCREASED from last year."
so those 3 guys are faster this year?
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he reminds me of a muscular Ed Mccaffrey.
Racist.
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10.63 is not a KSHSAA record... but yes Jordy is faster than we give him credit for.
It just dawned on me how fast this team is when I watched Johnson, Nelson, Campbell take their scores to the house. I know they're only 3 players but our team speed has increased from last year and that's very exciting.
In my head I keep hearing the ABC announcer talk about how Nelson proves that you don't have to have 10.2 speed to be great. My ass Nelson doesn't have 10.2 speed considering he holds the KSHAA records in both the 100M - 10.63 & 200M - 21.64. Both of those records were set in 2003 when he was a high school kid, that dude is built like a man now and more importantly he's built like a NFL receiver; he reminds me of a muscular Ed Mccaffrey.
Thoughts?
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10.63 is not a KSHSAA record... but yes Jordy is faster than we give him credit for.
It just dawned on me how fast this team is when I watched Johnson, Nelson, Campbell take their scores to the house. I know they're only 3 players but our team speed has increased from last year and that's very exciting.
In my head I keep hearing the ABC announcer talk about how Nelson proves that you don't have to have 10.2 speed to be great. My ass Nelson doesn't have 10.2 speed considering he holds the KSHAA records in both the 100M - 10.63 & 200M - 21.64. Both of those records were set in 2003 when he was a high school kid, that dude is built like a man now and more importantly he's built like a NFL receiver; he reminds me of a muscular Ed Mccaffrey.
Thoughts?
Comes from the KSHAA website, argue with them.
Swish,
Congrats on the idiot award.
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It just dawned on me how fast this team is when I watched Johnson, Nelson, Campbell take their scores to the house. I know they're only 3 players but our team speed has increased from last year and that's very exciting.
you do realize all those guys were on the team last year?
Which is why I would make a statement like, "our team speed has INCREASED from last year."
As mentioned by Brian Smoller, Rod Cole was not a good fit for Prince. It's not that Kent is a better S&C guy, but he's just a better fit.
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Swish
LOL
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10.63 is not a KSHSAA record... but yes Jordy is faster than we give him credit for.
actually they are KSHSAA records for the 3A division of the state track meet.
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Jordy continues to impress me the way he is always making someone miss or stiff arming someone for extra yards!
Except for that first drive against Auburn on the goaline, :banghead:
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Our team speed is better because:
A. Jordy is healthy again
B. Schemes and plays are second nature this season. Don't forget that the entire team was essentially freshman in Prince's system last year. Now there is 100% buy in and players can act without having to think things through. Makes a huge difference.
They did not become vastly more atheletic.
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It is possible to get faster one year to the next.
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It is possible to get faster one year to the next.
And this is the reason Rusty is the best damn poster on this site. :thumbsup: Get on the chutes boys!
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It is possible to get faster one year to the next.
Yes. But that's not the reason for perceived increase in team speed. The only guy who is literally faster than last year is Jordy...and I don't think he looks faster than he did as a Soph. The team appears to be playing faster though...which might be more important.
Which indivdual player (outside of Jordy) is faster (or faster than their predecessor) than last season? I may be willing to concede the point if there is an example...I can't think of one.
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Yes. But that's not the reason for perceived increase in team speed. The only guy who is literally faster than last year is Jordy...and I don't think he looks faster than he did as a Soph. The team appears to be playing faster though...which might be more important.
Um, where are you getting this? Are you just basing this off the injury recovery?
Which indivdual player (outside of Jordy) is faster (or faster than their predecessor) than last season? I may be willing to concede the point if there is an example...I can't think of one.
Dude, I don't have their forty times sitting at my desk. Still, I'd be shocked if there weren't multiple players that increased forty times (and perhaps more importantly, agility.)
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It is possible to get faster one year to the next.
Yes. But that's not the reason for perceived increase in team speed. The only guy who is literally faster than last year is Jordy...and I don't think he looks faster than he did as a Soph. The team appears to be playing faster though...which might be more important.
Which indivdual player (outside of Jordy) is faster (or faster than their predecessor) than last season? I may be willing to concede the point if there is an example...I can't think of one.
Johnson looks a heck of a lot better than he did last year.
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It is possible to get faster one year to the next.
Yes. But that's not the reason for perceived increase in team speed. The only guy who is literally faster than last year is Jordy...and I don't think he looks faster than he did as a Soph. The team appears to be playing faster though...which might be more important.
Which indivdual player (outside of Jordy) is faster (or faster than their predecessor) than last season? I may be willing to concede the point if there is an example...I can't think of one.
Johnson looks a heck of a lot better than he did last year.
Yea, he was really only starting to scratch the surface last year.
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Speed is one thing...being organized is another.
We had a convoy before the 30 yard line and Jordy weaved his way up the sideline.
Can't wait till ku has to punt to us.
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It is possible to get faster one year to the next.
Yes. But that's not the reason for perceived increase in team speed. The only guy who is literally faster than last year is Jordy...and I don't think he looks faster than he did as a Soph. The team appears to be playing faster though...which might be more important.
Which indivdual player (outside of Jordy) is faster (or faster than their predecessor) than last season? I may be willing to concede the point if there is an example...I can't think of one.
Johnson looks a heck of a lot better than he did last year.
Yea, he was really only starting to scratch the surface last year.
JUCO lag, remember Johnson started over Jamaal Charles in HS.
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It is possible to get faster one year to the next.
Yes. But that's not the reason for perceived increase in team speed. The only guy who is literally faster than last year is Jordy...and I don't think he looks faster than he did as a Soph. The team appears to be playing faster though...which might be more important.
Which indivdual player (outside of Jordy) is faster (or faster than their predecessor) than last season? I may be willing to concede the point if there is an example...I can't think of one.
Johnson looks a heck of a lot better than he did last year.
Yea, he was really only starting to scratch the surface last year.
JUCO lag, remember Johnson started over Jamaal Charles in HS.
Yea, but Beno Gore started over Sproles in HS too.
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It is possible to get faster one year to the next.
Yes. But that's not the reason for perceived increase in team speed. The only guy who is literally faster than last year is Jordy...and I don't think he looks faster than he did as a Soph. The team appears to be playing faster though...which might be more important.
Which indivdual player (outside of Jordy) is faster (or faster than their predecessor) than last season? I may be willing to concede the point if there is an example...I can't think of one.
Johnson looks a heck of a lot better than he did last year.
Agreed, but I don't think it's because he is physically faster, though I won't completely rule it out. Maybe he did get much faster, but I think it's more likely that it was just the regular adjustment curve we see with most JUCO players.
I do know that Figurs was as fast or faster than Murphy. I know for sure Norwood is faster than Mustrud. I suspect Moreira is faster than Gonzo. Defensively...maybe Chandler is faster than Williams? I don't think guys like Watts, Campbell and Jackson are any faster than they were last season. I just think it has a lot more to do with being comfortable with what they are doing than just being more atheletic as a whole.
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Yes. But that's not the reason for perceived increase in team speed. The only guy who is literally faster than last year is Jordy...and I don't think he looks faster than he did as a Soph. The team appears to be playing faster though...which might be more important.
Um, where are you getting this? Are you just basing this off the injury recovery?
Which indivdual player (outside of Jordy) is faster (or faster than their predecessor) than last season? I may be willing to concede the point if there is an example...I can't think of one.
Dude, I don't have their forty times sitting at my desk. Still, I'd be shocked if there weren't multiple players that increased forty times (and perhaps more importantly, agility.)
Yes I am just basing Jordy's speed off of injury recovery. While I agree than many have probably increased 40 times, I don't think it's a higher percentage increase than it is every year. Players get bigger, faster, stronger as they go through the system. Then they move on and are replaced by players that are getting, bigger, faster stronger. I don't think this was an anomaly year were everybody made abnormal gains in their 40 times. Obviously I don't have their times at my desk either.
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Yes I am just basing Jordy's speed off of injury recovery. While I agree than many have probably increased 40 times, I don't think it's a higher percentage increase than it is every year. Players get bigger, faster, stronger as they go through the system. Then they move on and are replaced by players that are getting, bigger, faster stronger. I don't think this was an anomaly year were everybody made abnormal gains in their 40 times. Obviously I don't have their times at my desk either.
Oh, that's different than "no one but Jordy is faster".
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It is possible to get faster one year to the next.
Yes. But that's not the reason for perceived increase in team speed. The only guy who is literally faster than last year is Jordy...and I don't think he looks faster than he did as a Soph. The team appears to be playing faster though...which might be more important.
Which indivdual player (outside of Jordy) is faster (or faster than their predecessor) than last season? I may be willing to concede the point if there is an example...I can't think of one.
Johnson looks a heck of a lot better than he did last year.
Agreed, but I don't think it's because he is physically faster, though I won't completely rule it out. Maybe he did get much faster, but I think it's more likely that it was just the regular adjustment curve we see with most JUCO players.
I do know that Figurs was as fast or faster than Murphy. I know for sure Norwood is faster than Mustrud. I suspect Moreira is faster than Gonzo. Defensively...maybe Chandler is faster than Williams? I don't think guys like Watts, Campbell and Jackson are any faster than they were last season. I just think it has a lot more to do with being comfortable with what they are doing than just being more atheletic as a whole.
Figurs was the fastest guy at the combines, he's faster than Deon.
I hate it how everyone (media especially) downplays Jordys speed. Maybe it's because he is a big and tall white boy walk-on. It's pretty obvious he has above average speed. Wasn't he a track star in HS? More importantly though, he has great vision and surprising elusiveness, not to mention he catches everthing thrown at him and breaks tackles w/ his 6'3 220 frame. God I love Jordy.
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Watch the texas game from last year and tell me we arent' faster over all. Defensively it's not even close. Thank god Archer is gone.
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Watch the texas game from last year and tell me we arent' faster over all. Defensively it's not even close. Thank god Archer is gone.
We are not faster all over. :jerkoff:
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I said defense, possibly oline. Healthy Jordy and murphy also >>>>>>>>>>>>> insignificant jordy and figures.
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Only one way to settle this:
Time Warp Track Meet
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:mad:
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I said defense, possibly oline. Healthy Jordy and murphy also >>>>>>>>>>>>> insignificant jordy and figures.
Faster: #1 WR, O-line, Middle defense (2 LBs and 1 T v 2 T 1 LB) <<<---(3-4 is the biggest difference that hasn't been mentioned yet)
Slower: #3 WR, TE,
Wash: DBs, RB, outside Defense (OLBs and DEs), QB, #2 WR (close enough)
JMO :D
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Only one way to settle this:
Time Warp Track Meet
LOL
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a few years back when Snyder was still HC the team was broken up into groups to compete against each other in different events during off-season conditioning. During that competition Jordy ran against Figurs in a 75 yard sprint...Jordy won it.
Figurs has a better 40 time but Jordy is a horse.
Yes, Jordy is much faster than given credit. Like some posts in this thread stated...Jordy pulled a sweep of the sprints at the state track meet and broke records for his division at the state meet in the 100 and 200. He also ran a 48-something quarter mile. I think he may have won the long jump too.
KSU head track coach Rovelto begged Nelson to be a decathlete as he believed he could be an olympian in the decathlon. Rovelto, for those who don't know, is world reknown as a coach of the multi-events (decathlon, pentathlon, etc.). In track the better college coaches are not just working for the University...world-class athletes often train under them and the coach supplements what they make as a collegiate coach w/ funding provided by sponsors, international govt, etc.
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Snyder was still HC
:yuck: :yuck: :yuck: :yuck:
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Snyder was still HC
:yuck: :yuck: :yuck: :yuck:
Nothing wrong with Bill other than the fact that his little black book of promising assistant coach prospects ran dry. We'll see how Prince does ten years in when his list of candidates is exhausted.
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Snyder was still HC
:yuck: :yuck: :yuck: :yuck:
Nothing wrong with Bill other than the fact that his little black book of promising assistant coach prospects ran dry. We'll see how Prince does ten years in when his list of candidates is exhausted.
Prince keeps his list updated
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Prince has already fired more people than Coach Snyder.
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Prince has already fired more people than LSnyder.
Very true. That's one thing where Snyder earns some well-deserved criticism, his loyalty was largely a one-way street.