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Fan Life => The Endzone Dive => Topic started by: ksuno1stunner on August 22, 2007, 08:36:25 PM
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what are some cheep hdtv's and over 40 inches? good ones prefrebaly
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this is an ett if i ever saw one.
I think anything 36 inch is legit imo. what is the "sweet spot" for hdtv's?
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What's cheap to you? Around $1000? At that price and size you're looking at 720p/1080i HD (not 1080p), which is probably fine because it's tough to see the difference unless you sit really close or have a 50"+ screen.
Samsung has some nice 42/46" DLP's. Sony has a 42" 3LCD projection (similar in size to a DLP). I've had this one for about a year and love it. There are probably some 40" LCD or plasmas that don't cost too much more than that. You can get more if you go off brand, but watch out.
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cheap = 400-600
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What's cheap to you? Around $1000? At that price and size you're looking at 720p/1080i HD (not 1080p), which is probably fine because it's tough to see the difference unless you sit really close or have a 50"+ screen.
Samsung has some nice 42/46" DLP's. Sony has a 42" 3LCD projection (similar in size to a DLP). I've had this one for about a year and love it. There are probably some 40" LCD or plasmas that don't cost too much more than that. You can get more if you go off brand, but watch out.
i dunno. good and cheep.
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Start here (http://www.newegg.com/Store/Category.aspx?Category=264&name=TV-Plasma-LCD-DLP)
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piss, are these any good?
i mean, what's the diff? if it shows in hd, it shows in hd? right?
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no. there's a couple main things to consider-
A) the type of tv: crt, lcd, plasma, and DLP/projection. they all vary in picture quality, no reason to buy an HDTV if the picture sux0rs.
B) the type of hd: 720p, 1080i, 1080p. usually this is a second consideration and money dictates where you end up on this scale. most people would have a hard time telling you the difference b/w a 720p and a 1080i/p.
the type of room you're putting the tv in should dictate what the answer to A is, how much you have to spend will determine the answer to B.
i've heard good things about the Olevia LCD's-
http://promotions.newegg.com/olevia/080307/index.html
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There are always a ton of plasma/hdtv's sold on eBay that are still "factor sealed" that are sold really cheap. The only problem is that I doubt you get the warranty with them..
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The "best" HDTVs: 1. CRT (dead and gone for the most part) / plasma (the newest are almost CRT quality), 2. Projection, 3. LCD. *NO* HDTV will give you the bang-for-the-buck of a decent projection set. E.g., you can get a pretty solid 57" Toshiba 57HM167 DLP projection set delivered to your place for ~$1300; ditto the 55" Sony KDF-55E2000 LCD projection set; ditto the 56" JVC HD-56FH97 LCOS projection set ... and all three of those are 1080p. You won't save a ton by stepping down to a 720p projection set so you might as well spend a couple hundred extra and go for 1080p (not many 1080i projection sets out there). You won't find an LCD or plasma worth owning that's anywhere near those sizes at anywhere near those prices.
Personally I'd start on your favorite price search engine, sort the delivered prices in the size range you want, then google reviews until I found a good one.
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The "best" HDTVs: 1. CRT (dead and gone for the most part) / plasma (the newest are almost CRT quality), 2. Projection, 3. LCD. *NO* HDTV will give you the bang-for-the-buck of a decent projection set. E.g., you can get a pretty solid 57" Toshiba 57HM167 DLP projection set delivered to your place for ~$1300; ditto the 55" Sony KDF-55E2000 LCD projection set; ditto the 56" JVC HD-56FH97 LCOS projection set ... and all three of those are 1080p. You won't save a ton by stepping down to a 720p projection set so you might as well spend a couple hundred extra and go for 1080p (not many 1080i projection sets out there). You won't find an LCD or plasma worth owning that's anywhere near those sizes at anywhere near those prices.
Personally I'd start on your favorite price search engine, sort the delivered prices in the size range you want, then google reviews until I found a good one.
How is the pic quality from projection to LDC or plasma? OK I'll be serious now, my price range is $700-$1000, and I'd like it to be 40+ inches. I lot of people here have 36 inch TV's and I just don't think that's big enough for my liking. My room is like 12 feet long, is that enough for projection? I dunno, I'd just kind of prefer an LCD. I looked at wal-mart (don't lol at me, meanies), and they have 42 inches (or was it 47?) for about $900, and I thought it looked OK.
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i was at sears in manhattan yesterday and saw a 40" sony lcd for $900, not sure of resolution. looked like one of those that got returned and they are selling cheap. said it was like a $1900 tv originally. i got my old projection at sears on a deal like this years ago and it still came with the full warranty, i assume this one would too.
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The biggest problems with LCDs are motion blur and crappy black levels that'll drive you nuts in the evening with the lights down low. Both are significantly better in the new Sony XBR4/5 and Samsung '71 LCDs but then those are like $3k+ for a 40"+ set. If you buy a cheap LCD you're going to step back a couple of years in technology and IMHO LCDs from a couple of years ago aren't really all that great for television.
By "projection" I mean "rear projection" not "projector and screen". The only practical difference between a DLP/LCD/LCOS rear projection set and and LCD is that the LCD might be 4-5" thick while the projection set might be 14-16" thick. A few people but not many (I'm one unfortunatley) see slightly whitish or rainbow artifacts near the center of rear projection TVs. They're not nearly as annoying as the blurred motion and crappy blacks of 2-3 year old LCD flatscreen technology though and odds are you won't see 'em anyway. Check out a few in shops and see if you can pick out the slight color variation near the middle of the screen, if not you'll get a far better set for far less money with rear projection versus LCD flatscreen.
12' is a pretty good sized room if the couch is on one wall with the television opposite. Check out this viewing distance calculator (http://www.myhometheater.homestead.com/viewingdistancecalculator.html) to get an idea of what you need.
And beware comparing sets in the store. They're typically all set with the contrast and brightness cranked waaaay up to compensate for store lighting which is several times as bright as typical home viewing conditions. Better to look for smooth motion, lack of artifacts, lack of digital noise, picture sharpness and the like and rely on the reviews for color accuracy and the like.
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And if you really have a lot of time to waste check out the AVS Forums for more than you ever wanted to know about home audio and video.
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And if you really have a lot of time to waste check out the AVS Forums for more than you ever wanted to know about home audio and video.
QFT.
I researched this for months and if you're looking to save some money and want to go Plasma get the Vizio VP42 refurbished for about $600.
Google it and you'll find all you ever wanted to know about the product. If you do buy refurbished make sure you get the extended warranty.
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And if you really have a lot of time to waste check out the AVS Forums for more than you ever wanted to know about home audio and video.
QFT.
I researched this for months and if you're looking to save some money and want to go Plasma get the Vizio VP42 refurbished for about $600.
Google it and you'll find all you ever wanted to know about the product. If you do buy refurbished make sure you get the extended warranty.
http://www.amazon.com/P42HDTV10A-Definition-Widescreen-Plasma-P42HDTV/dp/B000QGLRXM/ref=pd_bbs_2/002-6122984-6982424?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1187903606&sr=8-2
:ohno: :ohno: :ohno:
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And if you really have a lot of time to waste check out the AVS Forums for more than you ever wanted to know about home audio and video.
QFT.
I researched this for months and if you're looking to save some money and want to go Plasma get the Vizio VP42 refurbished for about $600.
Google it and you'll find all you ever wanted to know about the product. If you do buy refurbished make sure you get the extended warranty.
http://www.amazon.com/P42HDTV10A-Definition-Widescreen-Plasma-P42HDTV/dp/B000QGLRXM/ref=pd_bbs_2/002-6122984-6982424?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1187903606&sr=8-2
:ohno: :ohno: :ohno:
That's pretty terrifying. In your price range I'd go for this:
http://reviews.pricegrabber.com/projection-televisions/m/10462370/
After all, if you're buying two year old technology you might as well have a former product of the year, no? (http://www.tacp.toshiba.com/news/newsarticle.asp?newsid=102)
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And if you really have a lot of time to waste check out the AVS Forums for more than you ever wanted to know about home audio and video.
QFT.
I researched this for months and if you're looking to save some money and want to go Plasma get the Vizio VP42 refurbished for about $600.
Google it and you'll find all you ever wanted to know about the product. If you do buy refurbished make sure you get the extended warranty.
http://www.amazon.com/P42HDTV10A-Definition-Widescreen-Plasma-P42HDTV/dp/B000QGLRXM/ref=pd_bbs_2/002-6122984-6982424?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1187903606&sr=8-2
:ohno: :ohno: :ohno:
That's pretty terrifying. In your price range I'd go for this:
http://reviews.pricegrabber.com/projection-televisions/m/10462370/
After all, if you're buying two year old technology you might as well have a former product of the year, no? (http://www.tacp.toshiba.com/news/newsarticle.asp?newsid=102)
Hmmm...actually I think I'd like something that mounted on the wall. 42-46 inch range preferably. Hmmm...
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Have you priced wall mounts? That's not a cheap way to go.
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Have you priced wall mounts? That's not a cheap way to go.
They're just like 50 bucks aren't they?
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Would you really drop a grand on a (very fragile) television and hand it on your wall using the most cheap-ass mount money can buy? :popcorn:
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My roomie just got a 42" LG LCD ($1400). I have a 32" Olevia HDTV ($550). If you want a 42", you can get an LCD. I know Best Buy has a 42" plasma for $850. Either way you go, LCD or Plasma, it will still kick ass. Don't buy online. WAY too much hassle. Get it in store with a warranty. Olevia is a good cheap brand. The newest Vizios surprised me as well. My other friend has the 42" Vizio from Walmart ($1000 + $55 for warranty) and it looks just as good as our LG.
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My roomie just got a 42" LG LCD ($1400). I have a 32" Olevia HDTV ($550). If you want a 42", you can get an LCD. I know Best Buy has a 42" plasma for $850. Either way you go, LCD or Plasma, it will still kick ass. Don't buy online. WAY too much hassle. Get it in store with a warranty. Olevia is a good cheap brand. The newest Vizios surprised me as well. My other friend has the 42" Vizio from Walmart ($1000 + $55 for warranty) and it looks just as good as our LG.
I've read some good reviews on Vizio as well. They seem to be one of the better bargain brands right now. Go to cnet.com for lots of great reviews and general HD info.
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is there anyway you can get highdef from your cable provider, and just play it off of your pc?
like, record a show in HD to your dvr, then transfer it to your PC w/o even buying an HDTV.
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Would you really drop a grand on a (very fragile) television and hand it on your wall using the most cheap-ass mount money can buy? :popcorn:
psh...i'll just buy another wall mount.
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is there anyway you can get highdef from your cable provider, and just play it off of your pc?
like, record a show in HD to your dvr, then transfer it to your PC w/o even buying an HDTV.
All of the SD channels still broadcast in SD, so you would have no problem viewing them. The guide broadcasts in SD as well. Theoretically it would work (just paying $15 for the HD DVR box).
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is there anyway you can get highdef from your cable provider, and just play it off of your pc?
like, record a show in HD to your dvr, then transfer it to your PC w/o even buying an HDTV.
All of the SD channels still broadcast in SD, so you would have no problem viewing them. The guide broadcasts in SD as well. Theoretically it would work (just paying $15 for the HD DVR box).
All the Cox boxes disable any type of transfer function from their HD boxes. You can record on their DVR but there is no way to transfer it. You can buy your own box and sign up for their service though. Don't know about other cable carriers.
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Stunner - this chart might help with your decision:
(http://www.carltonbale.com/wp-content/uploads/resolution_chart.png)
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So if I'm reading that right unless I have a huge room to watch in I should go as cheap as possible for a 42 inch?
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Azcat- I'm not sure the graph is totally accurate. I can definitely tell HD and SD difference on my 32" from further away.
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I'm sure it's not 100% accurate, it's just a rule of thumb for the average viewer. I'd read it as saying that you'll notice the difference between 720p and 1080p starting at about an 8-9' viewing distance but of course everyone's MMV. Personally I'd spring for 1080p these days no matter what, might as well be as future-proof as possible if you're already spending a bunch of $$$.
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what are some cheep hdtv's and over 40 inches? good ones prefrebaly
This guy is pretty respected, from what I've been reading. He seems to know his stuff:
http://hdguru.com/?p=129 (http://hdguru.com/?p=129)
I thought this was interesting as well:
On additional note: If you like to watch action movies and sports, the HD Guru has examined motion resolution of microdisplay rear projector versus flat panel LVDs. These tests determine how much detail you will see when there is action on the screen such as a football player running down the field. You may be surprised to learn all the microdisplay rear projectors tested had better motion resolution than any tested 2007 LCD flat panel television. .
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hmmm
http://www.amazon.com/Sharp-Aquos-LC37D43U-LCD-HDTV/dp/B000MKWDJE/ref=sr_1_64/002-6122984-6982424?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1188284477&sr=1-64
http://www.amazon.com/Toshiba-42HP66-42-Plasma-HDTV/dp/B000F3Q5XI/ref=sr_1_25/002-6122984-6982424?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1188284984&sr=1-25 (is refurb that bad?)
I dunno, I might just get the 42 inch vizio at wal mart, looks sexy enough for me.
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I thought about an Aquos, then I saw this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kV5iv5TIT-M :eek: :frown: :yuck:
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http://www.circuitcity.com/ccd/productDetail.do?oid=174197&linkid=j13879814&affiliateid=k111512&mid= 999 for 40'' samsung!!!
http://www.shopdigitalonline.com/productdetail.asp?level=1&catid=12&productid=1689&crtag=cr 1200 for 42'' toshiba 1080p (might be stretching it, plus extra for shipping)
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Go to www.slickdeals.net and do a search in the forums, or keep an eye out on the main page. You can find amazing deals if you have some patience. My buddy bought a 47" Samsung plasma (brand new) a few months ago, and only paid $1100. The deals on the site don't last long, so keep a sharp eye out. Happy hunting.
Also, I own an Olevia 37" LCD and am very pleased with it. I also own a 60" Toshiba :popcorn:, both purchased from deals on that website.
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Go to www.slickdeals.net and do a search in the forums, or keep an eye out on the main page. You can find amazing deals if you have some patience. My buddy bought a 47" Samsung plasma (brand new) a few months ago, and only paid $1100. The deals on the site don't last long, so keep a sharp eye out. Happy hunting.
Also, I own an Olevia 37" LCD and am very pleased with it. I also own a 60" Toshiba :popcorn:, both purchased from deals on that website.
Thanks for the link.
Hmmm...42 inch vizio 1080p for 892.50 and free pickup from sears...
http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_05771947000P?pid=05771947000&sid=I0084400010000100383&aff=Y
Does contrast ratio make a huge difference? The 1080p vizio is 1500:1, most of the samsungs are at least triple that.
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Vizio? Olevia? Read this (http://hdguru.com/?p=107) first. :flush:
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Vizio? Olevia? Read this (http://hdguru.com/?p=107) first. :flush:
http://hdguru.com/?p=108
http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_05771947000P?pid=05771947000&sid=I0084400010000100383&aff=Y
It seems like it's worth the risk. 892.50? I'm a poor college student.
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I saw a 50" Sony LCD projection for $900 at a marketplace Dillons in Wichita yesterday. Those were going for $1500 not 6 months ago.
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Vizio? Olevia? Read this (http://hdguru.com/?p=107) first. :flush:
http://hdguru.com/?p=108
http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_05771947000P?pid=05771947000&sid=I0084400010000100383&aff=Y
It seems like it's worth the risk. 892.50? I'm a poor college student.
Exactly. Buy the warranty through wherever you buy it and they'll replace it. I'd tap that Vizio, stunner.
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sears card wtf?
http://www.citibank.com/us/cards/srs/credit_options.jsp
if i used it to buy the vizio and then never use it again does it screw with credit or whatever?
i'm a credit card noob.
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sears card wtf?
http://www.citibank.com/us/cards/srs/credit_options.jsp
if i used it to buy the vizio and then never use it again does it screw with credit or whatever?
i'm a credit card noob.
No, but if you pay it off on time it will improve your credit. You should probably shoot for having 2 or 3 credit cards (visa or mastercard not revolving credit like Sears) in good standing when you leave college as this will substantially boost your credit. If you don't have any credit history you will have a hard time getting loans. The Sears card is a revolving line of credit and doesn't hurt to have it if you pay it off on time.
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Look into a Chase Rewards card. Often times, they will have a cash bonus of $150 or something similar.
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i'm a credit card noob.
How are you in college with no credit card? The key is to get a bunch now and max them out and worry about paying down the balance under the crippling interest rates later....THE KEY. But, seriously, you should get one or two but just make sure you have no annual fees.
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The higher the contrast ratio of the screen, the better the color intensity on the LCD or Plasma. You get away with anything 800:1 and up and still have a great picture. Plasma's contrast ratios will be in the 10,000 and up range. But you are comparing apples to oranges there. This is something that manufactures really try and promote, but it's not as important as other features on LCDs.
Also, Stunner, search the forums on the site for credit cards. There is a thread that lists the best credit cards available and which ones have the best deals going on. No interest, free money, rewards, etc. It's always updated too. The guys will also mention who to stay away from and relay some of their experiences to others.
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http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-LNT4661F-1080p-LCD-HDTV/dp/B000N50S5Y/?tag=slickdeals
Buy a Samsung 1080p 46" LCD and get a FREE 19" LCD. This is a pretty good deal fwiw.
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i'm a credit card noob.
How are you in college with no credit card? The key is to get a bunch now and max them out and worry about paying down the balance under the crippling interest rates later....THE KEY. But, seriously, you should get one or two but just make sure you have no annual fees.
I have one (actually has a jayhawk on it...thanks mom) but mommy takes care of it for me.
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http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-LNT4661F-1080p-LCD-HDTV/dp/B000N50S5Y/?tag=slickdeals
Buy a Samsung 1080p 46" LCD and get a FREE 19" LCD. This is a pretty good deal fwiw.
yea...i was thinking about asking my parents about that one since my dad kind of wants one (i don't know what for, he never watches tv), but then they'd probably keep the bigger one.
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i'm a credit card noob.
How are you in college with no credit card? The key is to get a bunch now and max them out and worry about paying down the balance under the crippling interest rates later....THE KEY. But, seriously, you should get one or two but just make sure you have no annual fees.
I have one (actually has a jayhawk on it...thanks mom) but mommy takes care of it for me.
Why in the hell are you worried about the price then? Just charge a Pioneer 6010 on mommy's card and let her take care of it. Cha-ching! :popcorn:
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i'm a credit card noob.
How are you in college with no credit card? The key is to get a bunch now and max them out and worry about paying down the balance under the crippling interest rates later....THE KEY. But, seriously, you should get one or two but just make sure you have no annual fees.
I have one (actually has a jayhawk on it...thanks mom) but mommy takes care of it for me.
Why in the hell are you worried about the price then? Just charge a Pioneer 6010 on mommy's card and let her take care of it. Cha-ching! :popcorn:
Well she pays it off with the money I made over summer since I don't know how to take care of it.
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Your brutal honesty is astounding...utterly. :thumbsup:
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The higher the contrast ratio of the screen, the better the color intensity on the LCD or Plasma. You get away with anything 800:1 and up and still have a great picture. Plasma's contrast ratios will be in the 10,000 and up range. But you are comparing apples to oranges there. This is something that manufactures really try and promote, but it's not as important as other features on LCDs.
Also, Stunner, search the forums on the site for credit cards. There is a thread that lists the best credit cards available and which ones have the best deals going on. No interest, free money, rewards, etc. It's always updated too. The guys will also mention who to stay away from and relay some of their experiences to others.
http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Samsung-40-LCD-HDTV-LN-T4042H/sem/rpsm/context/99001426/oid/174197/catOid/-12867/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do
So I assume 7000:1 is plenty for contrast ratio.
So I think I might try and get this one...good buy? I know it's 720p, but it's Samsung, so you know it's good. Good price too, I can pick it up in OP and save money on shipping.
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OT: Has anyone tried effing around with a HDTV tv tuner dealy?
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The higher the contrast ratio of the screen, the better the color intensity on the LCD or Plasma. You get away with anything 800:1 and up and still have a great picture. Plasma's contrast ratios will be in the 10,000 and up range. But you are comparing apples to oranges there. This is something that manufactures really try and promote, but it's not as important as other features on LCDs.
Also, Stunner, search the forums on the site for credit cards. There is a thread that lists the best credit cards available and which ones have the best deals going on. No interest, free money, rewards, etc. It's always updated too. The guys will also mention who to stay away from and relay some of their experiences to others.
http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Samsung-40-LCD-HDTV-LN-T4042H/sem/rpsm/context/99001426/oid/174197/catOid/-12867/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do
So I assume 7000:1 is plenty for contrast ratio.
So I think I might try and get this one...good buy? I know it's 720p, but it's Samsung, so you know it's good. Good price too, I can pick it up in OP and save money on shipping.
Pull the trigger!
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OT: Has anyone tried effing around with a HDTV tv tuner dealy?
The one built into the set?
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OT: Has anyone tried effing around with a HDTV tv tuner dealy?
The one built into the set?
no, i mean like one that connects to your PC, dude.
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The higher the contrast ratio of the screen, the better the color intensity on the LCD or Plasma. You get away with anything 800:1 and up and still have a great picture. Plasma's contrast ratios will be in the 10,000 and up range. But you are comparing apples to oranges there. This is something that manufactures really try and promote, but it's not as important as other features on LCDs.
Also, Stunner, search the forums on the site for credit cards. There is a thread that lists the best credit cards available and which ones have the best deals going on. No interest, free money, rewards, etc. It's always updated too. The guys will also mention who to stay away from and relay some of their experiences to others.
http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Samsung-40-LCD-HDTV-LN-T4042H/sem/rpsm/context/99001426/oid/174197/catOid/-12867/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do
So I assume 7000:1 is plenty for contrast ratio.
So I think I might try and get this one...good buy? I know it's 720p, but it's Samsung, so you know it's good. Good price too, I can pick it up in OP and save money on shipping.
Pull the trigger!
Seriously? :blindfold:
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The higher the contrast ratio of the screen, the better the color intensity on the LCD or Plasma. You get away with anything 800:1 and up and still have a great picture. Plasma's contrast ratios will be in the 10,000 and up range. But you are comparing apples to oranges there. This is something that manufactures really try and promote, but it's not as important as other features on LCDs.
Also, Stunner, search the forums on the site for credit cards. There is a thread that lists the best credit cards available and which ones have the best deals going on. No interest, free money, rewards, etc. It's always updated too. The guys will also mention who to stay away from and relay some of their experiences to others.
http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Samsung-40-LCD-HDTV-LN-T4042H/sem/rpsm/context/99001426/oid/174197/catOid/-12867/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do
So I assume 7000:1 is plenty for contrast ratio.
So I think I might try and get this one...good buy? I know it's 720p, but it's Samsung, so you know it's good. Good price too, I can pick it up in OP and save money on shipping.
Pull the trigger!
Seriously? :blindfold:
$%#&ing @#!%!!!!!
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$%#&ing @#!%!!!!!
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:lol: Dude, that sucks. Just when you get your courage up. Oh well, there are plenty of other fish int he sea.
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OT: Has anyone tried effing around with a HDTV tv tuner dealy?
The one built into the set?
no, i mean like one that connects to your PC, dude.
Sorry, no my PC just has a regular tv tuner. When I upgrade my PC I want to get a HD tuner card though. That would make things so much easier.
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ati all in a wonder sounds good.
my dvr is gay, only 8 hours of HD recording. and doing a straight record to my PC is very unstable.
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The higher the contrast ratio of the screen, the better the color intensity on the LCD or Plasma. You get away with anything 800:1 and up and still have a great picture. Plasma's contrast ratios will be in the 10,000 and up range. But you are comparing apples to oranges there. This is something that manufactures really try and promote, but it's not as important as other features on LCDs.
Also, Stunner, search the forums on the site for credit cards. There is a thread that lists the best credit cards available and which ones have the best deals going on. No interest, free money, rewards, etc. It's always updated too. The guys will also mention who to stay away from and relay some of their experiences to others.
http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Samsung-40-LCD-HDTV-LN-T4042H/sem/rpsm/context/99001426/oid/174197/catOid/-12867/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do
So I assume 7000:1 is plenty for contrast ratio.
So I think I might try and get this one...good buy? I know it's 720p, but it's Samsung, so you know it's good. Good price too, I can pick it up in OP and save money on shipping.
Pull the trigger!
Seriously? :blindfold:
$%#&ing @#!%!!!!!
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Mac Mall has if for $90 more & Butterfly Photo for $100 more. You might call and see if they'll price match. My guess is they will since this is probably last year's model and most of these guys will be trying to kill off inventory ahead of the new products that are just starting to show.
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The higher the contrast ratio of the screen, the better the color intensity on the LCD or Plasma. You get away with anything 800:1 and up and still have a great picture. Plasma's contrast ratios will be in the 10,000 and up range. But you are comparing apples to oranges there. This is something that manufactures really try and promote, but it's not as important as other features on LCDs.
Also, Stunner, search the forums on the site for credit cards. There is a thread that lists the best credit cards available and which ones have the best deals going on. No interest, free money, rewards, etc. It's always updated too. The guys will also mention who to stay away from and relay some of their experiences to others.
http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Samsung-40-LCD-HDTV-LN-T4042H/sem/rpsm/context/99001426/oid/174197/catOid/-12867/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do
So I assume 7000:1 is plenty for contrast ratio.
So I think I might try and get this one...good buy? I know it's 720p, but it's Samsung, so you know it's good. Good price too, I can pick it up in OP and save money on shipping.
Pull the trigger!
Seriously? :blindfold:
$%#&ing @#!%!!!!!
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Mac Mall has if for $90 more & Butterfly Photo for $100 more. You might call and see if they'll price match. My guess is they will since this is probably last year's model and most of these guys will be trying to kill off inventory ahead of the new products that are just starting to show.
That's a good idea.
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ati all in a wonder sounds good.
my dvr is gay, only 8 hours of HD recording. and doing a straight record to my PC is very unstable.
Does that have the cable card for HD? I really want one of those on my next PC. It is really not worth my time at this point to get a new one for my PC. Get one and tell me how it works.
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The higher the contrast ratio of the screen, the better the color intensity on the LCD or Plasma. You get away with anything 800:1 and up and still have a great picture. Plasma's contrast ratios will be in the 10,000 and up range. But you are comparing apples to oranges there. This is something that manufactures really try and promote, but it's not as important as other features on LCDs.
Also, Stunner, search the forums on the site for credit cards. There is a thread that lists the best credit cards available and which ones have the best deals going on. No interest, free money, rewards, etc. It's always updated too. The guys will also mention who to stay away from and relay some of their experiences to others.
http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Samsung-40-LCD-HDTV-LN-T4042H/sem/rpsm/context/99001426/oid/174197/catOid/-12867/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do
So I assume 7000:1 is plenty for contrast ratio.
So I think I might try and get this one...good buy? I know it's 720p, but it's Samsung, so you know it's good. Good price too, I can pick it up in OP and save money on shipping.
Lol, ya 7000:1 is plenty. Also be sure that the response time is below 8ms. Samsung is one of the makers of all LCDs, so they usually have great screens.
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Stunner......I just bought the 40 in. Samsung LCD. I got it for $1,079 at Sears because they did a price match for me. They originally are 1,600 and Sears had it down to 1,299. Pretty sweet. Actually.........really sweet. Find one and buy it. You'll love it.
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Having watched the new Pioneer for a few days now I can say with some authority, "Screw the cost, burn up mom's credit card and just get one."
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now i'm like most def seriously looking at one imo.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8254417&productCategoryId=abcat0101001&type=product&tab=1&id=1169512581955#productdetail
good/bad? why is the lcd equivalent more expensive? 15,000:1 contrast is good right? i like bright pictures.
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now i'm like most def seriously looking at one imo.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8254417&productCategoryId=abcat0101001&type=product&tab=1&id=1169512581955#productdetail
good/bad? why is the lcd equivalent more expensive? 15,000:1 contrast is good right? i like bright pictures.
Contrast ratios are meaningless as there's no standard by which they're measured, they're pure marketing hype. Besides, the human eye probably can't differentiate past about 10k:1 anyway.
Since you're burning up the credit line on mom's card just go for one of these. (http://www.plasmaconcepts.com/plasma-tv-store/Pioneer-PDP-6010FD/PD792.html) They're doing free shipping right now so it's practically a steal.
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now i'm like most def seriously looking at one imo.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8254417&productCategoryId=abcat0101001&type=product&tab=1&id=1169512581955#productdetail
good/bad? why is the lcd equivalent more expensive? 15,000:1 contrast is good right? i like bright pictures.
Contrast ratios are meaningless as there's no standard by which they're measured, they're pure marketing hype. Besides, the human eye probably can't differentiate past about 10k:1 anyway.
Since you're burning up the credit line on mom's card just go for one of these. (http://www.plasmaconcepts.com/plasma-tv-store/Pioneer-PDP-6010FD/PD792.html) They're doing free shipping right now so it's practically a steal.
I can't use mommy's credit card anymore, I need the best I can without going over 1000. Might have to reread the thread, although this (http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Samsung-40-LCD-HDTV-LN-T4042H/sem/rpsm/oid/174197/catOid/-12869/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do) is starting to look attractive again.
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now i'm like most def seriously looking at one imo.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8254417&productCategoryId=abcat0101001&type=product&tab=1&id=1169512581955#productdetail
good/bad? why is the lcd equivalent more expensive? 15,000:1 contrast is good right? i like bright pictures.
Contrast ratios are meaningless as there's no standard by which they're measured, they're pure marketing hype. Besides, the human eye probably can't differentiate past about 10k:1 anyway.
Since you're burning up the credit line on mom's card just go for one of these. (http://www.plasmaconcepts.com/plasma-tv-store/Pioneer-PDP-6010FD/PD792.html) They're doing free shipping right now so it's practically a steal.
I can't use mommy's credit card anymore, I need the best I can without going over 1000. Might have to reread the thread, although this (http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Samsung-40-LCD-HDTV-LN-T4042H/sem/rpsm/oid/174197/catOid/-12869/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do) is starting to look attractive again.
Oh in that case definitely spend the next 12-24 months drinking $0.50 draws and watching your HDTV at your local sports bar while saving your pocket change and waiting on Pioneer to release the 9th gen kuro they just showed at CES. The actual displayed black levels are darker than the unpowered screens on their 8th gen sets, they will be the killer app in the 1080p space for a loooong time.
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Here's all you need to know: on the left the current reigning champ of black levels & picture quality for all consumer flat panel displays, on the right the next model featuring infinite contrast:
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d163/YetAnother1/temp/kuro.gif)
:billypopcorn:
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http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/LG-37-LCD-HDTV-37LC7D/sem/rpsm/oid/174194/catOid/-12867/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do
Here's the one I got for xmas. I love it, but my viewing distance is not more than 10 feet so I don't know what it would look like in a big room.
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no. there's a couple main things to consider-
A) the type of tv: crt, lcd, plasma, and DLP/projection. they all vary in picture quality, no reason to buy an HDTV if the picture sux0rs.
B) the type of hd: 720p, 1080i, 1080p. usually this is a second consideration and money dictates where you end up on this scale. most people would have a hard time telling you the difference b/w a 720p and a 1080i/p.
the type of room you're putting the tv in should dictate what the answer to A is, how much you have to spend will determine the answer to B.
i've heard good things about the Olevia LCD's-
http://promotions.newegg.com/olevia/080307/index.html
I got an Olevia 32" for Christmas and i love it.
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I've had an Olevia 32" for about a year now. Have no complaints at all.
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http://shopper.cnet.com/4566-6485_9-0.html?filter=100021_9231540_&sort=lowPrice9+asc
I have seen thick projection TVs for around $600. 40".
Check best buys . They may not be selling them anymore though because everyone thinks they're ghetto I am guessing.
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I've been researching this for a long time, and it seems to me that if you want to go with a 42" Plasma than the Panasonic PX77U with the anti-glare coating is the way to go. I've never read a bad review and they all say that the SD picture quality is better than any other plasma. Not too expensive, and free shipping on amazon.
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http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-LNT4061F-1080p-LCD-HDTV/dp/B000N4Z42C/ref=pd_bbs_3?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1200512281&sr=8-3
http://www.amazon.com/Sony-KDL-40V2500-Bravia-1080p-HDTV/dp/B000HGQJZW/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1200512281&sr=8-1
Well, it's down to these 2. Fo realz this time. Azcat, please be serious :(
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http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-LNT4061F-1080p-LCD-HDTV/dp/B000N4Z42C/ref=pd_bbs_3?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1200512281&sr=8-3
http://www.amazon.com/Sony-KDL-40V2500-Bravia-1080p-HDTV/dp/B000HGQJZW/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1200512281&sr=8-1
Well, it's down to these 2. Fo realz this time. Azcat, please be serious :(
Those are both good sets in their price ranges. I'd go with the Sammy since Sony goods provide relatively poor bang-for-the-buck.
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stunner, either way it will be the best television you've ever owned. you can't go wrong.
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Go with the Samsung. They have the best picture. I got a Samsung 5054 a couple weeks ago and the Green Bay game last weekend was amazing in HD. Granted this is a plasma, but the picture is the same.
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the picture isn't the same b/w a lcd and a plasma. at all.
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Meant to say similar....got caught up in something else. My tv still rocks though. :dancin:
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got 12% off using this:
http://emailinfo.bestbuy.com/pp/editor_NET/v3/CampaignWrapper.aspx?E=9597%3B935402%3B1253273597%3B1%3B02&R=T1_CMP_9603&A=1007&ci=9603&ref=39&loc=01
40'' Sony 1080p for $1150...not bad.
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$1150
still to exp. to buy one.
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I've got an Olevia LCD. I want a Plasma, preferably a kuro or whatever Panasonic comes out with in the next few months.