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Title: Slightly OT: KSU Stadium/Sports Complex to get another new neighbor:
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 05, 2007, 03:04:00 PM



06/05/07 — KSU Foundation to build new office on Manhattan campus

The KSU Foundation is planning to purchase a tract of land from Kansas State University as the site for a new foundation office building. The purchase has been approved by the Kansas legislature and will be finalized during the summer. The purchase price will be determined by a statutory procedure that includes three independent appraisals. The 14-acre site is situated in the northwest quadrant of the intersection of Kimball and Denison avenues. It has approximately 712 feet of frontage on Kimball Avenue and 734 feet of frontage on Denison Avenue. It is located directly across the street west of the Manhattan Fire Station at 2000 Denison Avenue.

“The foundation has simply outgrown our facility,” said Paul Stephenson, Wichita, Kan., chairman of the foundation executive committee. “We have experienced tremendous growth in terms of annual fundraising and asset management and desperately need more space to conduct our work to support the university. In 1996, contributions to the KSU Foundation totaled $21.7 million and in 2006 the total contributions were $92.8 million. Our staff has grown from 35 to 100 during that same period of time, while our fundraising efficiency in terms of cost per dollar raised has remained relatively constant.”

“We are delighted to have the foundation in a very visible location on campus,” said K-State President Jon Wefald. “There is no question that private philanthropy is allowing the university to grow and excel in areas that would otherwise go unfunded. Approximately one quarter of the university’s operating budget comes from the state. The remainder of the operating budget comes from three sources: tuition, grants and contracts, and private philanthropic support given through the KSU Foundation. The collaborative efforts of the donors, the university staff and the foundation staff are providing a margin of excellence at K State. The truth is we have a great team at K-State on all fronts.”

A committee named by the foundation’s executive committee will oversee the process and make recommendations to the executive committee for action. Members are Dennis Law, dean, College of Architecture, Planning and Design; executive committee members Paul Stephenson, Wichita, Kan., Lee Harris, Leawood, Kan., and Curt Frasier, Beloit, Kan.; Charles Reagan, associate to the president; Lorne Render, director of the Beach Museum; and former foundation executive committee chairmen Dick Thiessen and Nelson Galle, both of Manhattan.

The building committee is overseeing the process of architect selection and building design. Letters soliciting interest were sent to every K-State architecture graduate. Those interested are participating in a selection process that will culminate in interviews with the building committee during June.

Funding for the new building will be generated from the sale of tax-exempt bonds issued by the foundation. Projections indicate the building will be approximately 50,000 square feet.

Susan Benz, Benz Resource Group, Austin, Texas, has been hired as the building project manager. A joint venture formed by GE Johnson, Colorado Springs, Colo., and Hutton Construction, Wichita, Kan. has been named as the project contractor. It is expected that construction could begin in the spring of 2008.

“This is an exciting chapter in the foundation’s 63-year history of serving Kansas State University,” said KSU Foundation CEO and President Gary Hellebust. “It is gratifying to know the reason we need to pursue a new building is due to the generosity of donors in support of the university. We have every intention of continuing to serve the university with increasing levels of philanthropic support.”

Hellebust added that parts of the foundation building, located at 2323 Anderson Avenue, are currently occupied by departments of the university. He expects that the entire building will be utilized by the university when the new foundation building is complete
Title: Re: Slightly OT: KSU Stadium/Sports Complex to get another new neighbor:
Post by: Pike on June 05, 2007, 03:06:36 PM
who cares
Title: Re: Slightly OT: KSU Stadium/Sports Complex to get another new neighbor:
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 05, 2007, 03:08:38 PM
Spoken like your typical clueless KSU student.

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Post by: michigancat on June 05, 2007, 03:10:04 PM
Where will the sheep go?
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Post by: fatty fat fat on June 05, 2007, 03:11:03 PM
Hopefully it looks nice.
Title: Re: Slightly OT: KSU Stadium/Sports Complex to get another new neighbor:
Post by: Pike on June 05, 2007, 03:11:35 PM
Spoken like your typical clueless KSU student.



We've got better things to worry about. Well, not right now but once school starts.
Title: Re: Slightly OT: KSU Stadium/Sports Complex to get another new neighbor:
Post by: pissclams on June 05, 2007, 03:26:03 PM
Spoken like your typical clueless KSU student.



We've got better things to worry about. Well, not right now but once school starts.
You go enjoy the next 10 weeks of preparing to worry about better things.
Title: Re: Slightly OT: KSU Stadium/Sports Complex to get another new neighbor:
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 05, 2007, 03:26:55 PM
Where will the sheep go?

And Rusty and Fatty nail it . . . I hope it looks nice, and what a great place to have a nice building.  Pike . . . look at these guys for guidance.   See, nothing tells your inner city urban based black athlete "you should come here man" like sheep pens and muddy grass parking lots.

Now, after years of waiting, the areas around our two main sports venues are getting a vital makeover.  Jardine is being totally renovated, the Bio Science Lab, the hospital expansion, the new Condos just to the Northeast. . . now if Grain Science would just get cracking and get their main new building built they'll be a nice encirclement of the sports complex of shiney new buildings.   This has me wondering aloud if the the Foundation will then move to purchase the plot of land across Kimball from the east parking lot and put in a retail center.   The athletic department is wanting to see this happen, they want a more accessible, year round official athletic store, and they'd like to see a resturant/sports bar go in there as well.  
Title: Re: Slightly OT: KSU Stadium/Sports Complex to get another new neighbor:
Post by: Pike on June 05, 2007, 03:34:13 PM
Spoken like your typical clueless KSU student.



We've got better things to worry about. Well, not right now but once school starts.
You go enjoy the next 10 weeks of preparing to worry about better things.

Livin' the dream
Title: Re: Slightly OT: KSU Stadium/Sports Complex to get another new neighbor:
Post by: Pike on June 05, 2007, 03:37:22 PM
Where will the sheep go?

And Rusty and Fatty nail it . . . I hope it looks nice, and what a great place to have a nice building.  Pike . . . look at these guys for guidance.   See, nothing tells your inner city urban based black athlete "you should come here man" like sheep pens and muddy grass parking lots.

Now, after years of waiting, the areas around our two main sports venues are getting a vital makeover.  Jardine is being totally renovated, the Bio Science Lab, the hospital expansion, the new Condos just to the Northeast. . . now if Grain Science would just get cracking and get their main new building built they'll be a nice encirclement of the sports complex of shiney new buildings.   This has me wondering aloud if the the Foundation will then move to purchase the plot of land across Kimball from the east parking lot and put in a retail center.   The athletic department is wanting to see this happen, they want a more accessible, year round official athletic store, and they'd like to see a resturant/sports bar go in there as well. 

Ok well I didn't think of it from a recruiting standpoint. That makes sense now. They need to knock out that damn feed mill on kimbal and Denison....that looks like crap. But, I guess all that plus the stadium renovations will make the area a lot nicer. And nothing looks cooler then that Pat Roberts building surrounded by fence.

I'm a grain science major btw :thumbsup:
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Post by: KSU4ME on June 05, 2007, 03:42:36 PM
The price for premium tailgating spaces just went up.
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Post by: chum1 on June 05, 2007, 03:48:26 PM
Here's a picture of the architect's model:

(http://wondertrail.com/Merchant2/graphics/Bachmann/45151_thumb.jpg)
Title: Re: Slightly OT: KSU Stadium/Sports Complex to get another new neighbor:
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 05, 2007, 03:53:41 PM
I think they're going with a green roof though, it will help business at the year round Christmas store.

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Post by: pissclams on June 05, 2007, 03:55:44 PM
The thing on the left looks like a red missle with a white cap on it.
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Post by: Pike on June 05, 2007, 03:57:13 PM
The thing on the left looks like a red missle with a white cap on it.

so it doesn't get rained on
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Post by: pissclams on June 05, 2007, 03:57:51 PM
i figured the white stuff was nitro glycerin
Title: Re: Slightly OT: KSU Stadium/Sports Complex to get another new neighbor:
Post by: catzacker on June 05, 2007, 03:58:28 PM
They are really ruining all the good places for the students to tailgate.  That surgical center on the West side of the stadium really screwed any and all good tailgating for students.  But I'm an alumni who can drink freely in the parking lot, so what do I care?  Put as many nice buildings around the stadium as possible.  
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Post by: ATLCAT21 on June 05, 2007, 03:59:42 PM
Where will the sheep go?

And Rusty and Fatty nail it . . . I hope it looks nice, and what a great place to have a nice building.  Pike . . . look at these guys for guidance.   See, nothing tells your inner city urban based black athlete "you should come here man" like sheep pens and muddy grass parking lots.

Now, after years of waiting, the areas around our two main sports venues are getting a vital makeover.  Jardine is being totally renovated, the Bio Science Lab, the hospital expansion, the new Condos just to the Northeast. . . now if Grain Science would just get cracking and get their main new building built they'll be a nice encirclement of the sports complex of shiney new buildings.   This has me wondering aloud if the the Foundation will then move to purchase the plot of land across Kimball from the east parking lot and put in a retail center.   The athletic department is wanting to see this happen, they want a more accessible, year round official athletic store, and they'd like to see a resturant/sports bar go in there as well. 

Ok well I didn't think of it from a recruiting standpoint. That makes sense now. They need to knock out that damn feed mill on kimbal and Denison....that looks like @#%$. But, I guess all that plus the stadium renovations will make the area a lot nicer. And nothing looks cooler then that Pat Roberts building surrounded by fence.

I'm a grain science major btw :thumbsup:

Are they trying to push tailgating further away from the stadium or just assuming football will fall back to pre-Snyder status?
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Post by: michigancat on June 05, 2007, 04:03:47 PM
They are really ruining all the good places for the students to tailgate.  That surgical center on the West side of the stadium really screwed any and all good tailgating for students.  But I'm an alumni who can drink freely in the parking lot, so what do I care?  Put as many nice buildings around the stadium as possible.   

Huh?

Grass lot b/w the rec and donors.
Title: Re: Slightly OT: KSU Stadium/Sports Complex to get another new neighbor:
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 05, 2007, 04:07:23 PM
Where will the sheep go?

And Rusty and Fatty nail it . . . I hope it looks nice, and what a great place to have a nice building.  Pike . . . look at these guys for guidance.   See, nothing tells your inner city urban based black athlete "you should come here man" like sheep pens and muddy grass parking lots.

Now, after years of waiting, the areas around our two main sports venues are getting a vital makeover.  Jardine is being totally renovated, the Bio Science Lab, the hospital expansion, the new Condos just to the Northeast. . . now if Grain Science would just get cracking and get their main new building built they'll be a nice encirclement of the sports complex of shiney new buildings.   This has me wondering aloud if the the Foundation will then move to purchase the plot of land across Kimball from the east parking lot and put in a retail center.   The athletic department is wanting to see this happen, they want a more accessible, year round official athletic store, and they'd like to see a resturant/sports bar go in there as well. 

Ok well I didn't think of it from a recruiting standpoint. That makes sense now. They need to knock out that damn feed mill on kimbal and Denison....that looks like @#%$. But, I guess all that plus the stadium renovations will make the area a lot nicer. And nothing looks cooler then that Pat Roberts building surrounded by fence.

I'm a grain science major btw :thumbsup:

Are they trying to push tailgating further away from the stadium or just assuming football will fall back to pre-Snyder status?

So the "good" tailgating is is on the corner of Denison and Kimball??   So that's the mission of KSU . . . provide good tailgating spots??  So when a stud recruit visits when there's no football season, the host just tells them to envision a "great tailgating spot" where sheep roam??

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Post by: ATLCAT21 on June 05, 2007, 04:15:04 PM
I get it, just trying to get away from the roots of being an ag school.  Brilliant!
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Post by: KSU4ME on June 05, 2007, 04:21:15 PM
Getting rid of the sheep doesn't really matter with the cattle staying at the same intersection.

At least the sheep weren't visible for recruits visiting on game day.
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Post by: catzacker on June 05, 2007, 04:22:01 PM
They are really ruining all the good places for the students to tailgate.  That surgical center on the West side of the stadium really screwed any and all good tailgating for students.  But I'm an alumni who can drink freely in the parking lot, so what do I care?  Put as many nice buildings around the stadium as possible.   

Huh?

Grass lot b/w the rec and donors.

That's still KSU property...so they still have greater control of what goes on there.  When the surgical center wasn't there and it was just an open grass area, it was entirely more student friendly....which is to say it was easier for the students to do whatever they wanted with mass quantities of alcohol.    
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 05, 2007, 04:24:34 PM
Yeah . . . why would anyone think KSU is an "ag school" with (when it's finished) a $75 million dollar Grain Science Complex, just down the street from the Vet School, with the proposed Equine Center just around the corner, and a huge Plant Sciences Center just down the road??

That just screams, "we're not an Ag School" doesn't it??

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Post by: fatty fat fat on June 05, 2007, 04:26:05 PM
I get it, just trying to get away from the roots of being an ag school.  Brilliant!

We should.
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Post by: pissclams on June 05, 2007, 04:28:22 PM
Why? Ag schools are cool, Michael Beasley and Bill Walker go to one.

So did Michael Bishop.
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Post by: michigancat on June 05, 2007, 04:29:38 PM
They are really ruining all the good places for the students to tailgate.  That surgical center on the West side of the stadium really screwed any and all good tailgating for students.  But I'm an alumni who can drink freely in the parking lot, so what do I care?  Put as many nice buildings around the stadium as possible.   

Huh?

Grass lot b/w the rec and donors.

That's still KSU property...so they still have greater control of what goes on there.  When the surgical center wasn't there and it was just an open grass area, it was entirely more student friendly....which is to say it was easier for the students to do whatever they wanted with mass quantities of alcohol.   

Um, sheep fields are KSU property.

I get it, just trying to get away from the roots of being an ag school.  Brilliant!

We should.

QFT.  You can support ag without having combines and sheep front and center.
Title: Re: Slightly OT: KSU Stadium/Sports Complex to get another new neighbor:
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 05, 2007, 04:32:00 PM
There's nothing wrong with being an Ag School . . . but in a roundabout way of agreeing with Fatty, there's no need to leave no doubt as KSU has done for years now around the sports complex.  That area needs to be turned into an area that looks like a major university that has an Ag School, not kept looking like a major university that has some old farm out on the edge of campus.

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Post by: pissclams on June 05, 2007, 04:34:45 PM
I think that's crap. These kids don't give a damn about a combine sitting front and center or anything else for that matter related to KSU being an AG school.
The only people who really care are the type of people that visit this board. 

USC is SCLA, should we build gangs, graffiti, and a swap meet around the complex to help facilitate recruiting?
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Post by: catzacker on June 05, 2007, 04:37:07 PM
They are really ruining all the good places for the students to tailgate.  That surgical center on the West side of the stadium really screwed any and all good tailgating for students.  But I'm an alumni who can drink freely in the parking lot, so what do I care?  Put as many nice buildings around the stadium as possible.   

Huh?

Grass lot b/w the rec and donors.

That's still KSU property...so they still have greater control of what goes on there.  When the surgical center wasn't there and it was just an open grass area, it was entirely more student friendly....which is to say it was easier for the students to do whatever they wanted with mass quantities of alcohol.   

Um, sheep fields are KSU property.

I know.  I didn't mean to imply that the sheep fields weren't, just that the space for student tailgating is quite limited now and since the surgical center went up, the fun factor has been quite limited, from what I've been told.  
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Post by: michigancat on June 05, 2007, 04:37:50 PM
I think that's crap. These kids don't give a damn about a combine sitting front and center or anything else for that matter related to KSU being an AG school.
The only people who really care are the type of people that visit this board.

No, the sheep could really make a difference.  Probably not as significant as eliminating the 2.5 hour drive, but still.
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Post by: ATLCAT21 on June 05, 2007, 04:39:30 PM
It will decrease our chances of sneaking in a ram when we are kicked out of the Big 12 and are reverted to playing our new arch rival Colorado State in conference play in the Mountain West.  Would PETA get upset with throwing sheep onto the field???
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 05, 2007, 07:55:56 PM
I think that's crap. These kids don't give a damn about a combine sitting front and center or anything else for that matter related to KSU being an AG school.
The only people who really care are the type of people that visit this board. 

USC is SCLA, should we build gangs, graffiti, and a swap meet around the complex to help facilitate recruiting?

Okay . . .  :thumbsup:
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Post by: pissclams on June 06, 2007, 08:16:25 AM
Sorry Dax, continue to play Pin The Tail On The Excuse.  FWIW, Arkansas is not in Arkansas, and Auburn is in NYC (or wherever a cool place is).
People talk about KSU fans and their inferiority complex because it's true. 
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Post by: michigancat on June 06, 2007, 08:26:18 AM
Sorry Dax, continue to play Pin The Tail On The Excuse.  FWIW, Arkansas is not in Arkansas, and Auburn is in NYC (or wherever a cool place is).
People talk about KSU fans and their inferiority complex because it's true. 

I don't think having a desire to put up a (hopefully) attractive building across the street from our athletic complex and displacing sheep in the process = inferiority complex.

Constant whining about Arthur Brown not coming, though....

I'm sure USC tries to downplay it's ghetto-ness, Arkansas and Auburn try to downplay their hickness, etc.  It just makes sense to do (simple) things that may help with recruiting.
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Post by: waks on June 06, 2007, 08:28:19 AM
No, it won't make one difference in recruiting but if it is an attractive building then I am all for having it replace the sheep pasture.
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Post by: chum1 on June 06, 2007, 08:37:54 AM
Anyone who thinks that the presence of a sheep field accross from USC's campus would adversely affect thier recruiting is disassociated from me effective immediately.
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Post by: pissclams on June 06, 2007, 08:39:52 AM
Sorry Dax, continue to play Pin The Tail On The Excuse.  FWIW, Arkansas is not in Arkansas, and Auburn is in NYC (or wherever a cool place is).
People talk about KSU fans and their inferiority complex because it's true. 

I don't think having a desire to put up a (hopefully) attractive building across the street from our athletic complex and displacing sheep in the process = inferiority complex.

Constant whining about Arthur Brown not coming, though....

I'm sure USC tries to downplay it's ghetto-ness, Arkansas and Auburn try to downplay their hickness, etc.  It just makes sense to do (simple) things that may help with recruiting.

Seems to me that this thread has gone away from putting up a cool building to let's get rid of any semblance of tractors, sheep, or fields or farm stuff.  Maybe I misinterpreted.  I love cool buildings.  
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Post by: michigancat on June 06, 2007, 08:43:15 AM
Seems to me that this thread has gone away from putting up a cool building to let's get rid of any semblance of tractors, sheep, or fields or farm stuff.  Maybe I misinterpreted.  I love cool buildings. 

Yeah, a typical message board leap of logic.  I'm just saying it's not a bad thing, it could potentially help recruiting (even if the effect is minimal), and it isn't necessarily throwing our land grant/ag roots away.
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Post by: catzacker on June 06, 2007, 08:53:08 AM
The sheep and cattle give us farm cred...without it Garth will disassociate himself from KSU. 
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Post by: pissclams on June 06, 2007, 09:00:59 AM
My dream is for our marketing team to have a calendar/schedule poster this year for our basketball squad with Beasley, Walker, Pullen, Hoskins, etc all decked out in overalls and straw hats sitting on tractors outside of an old barn and holding basketballs. 
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 06, 2007, 10:03:58 AM
This thread is funny.

I don't think adding some nice building on campus by the football stadium is going to make anyone think KSU doesn't have an Ag School.  Although calling KSU an "ag school" does that really fit anymore, considering that the School of Ag is only the 5th largest school on campus in terms of enrollment??   Albeit, it is by far and away the most capital intensive College within the greater University.

That being said, I don't think a huge walled sign on Kimball that says "International Grain Science Center" or whatever it says is going to let anyone forget that KSU doesn't have a College of Agriculture anytime soon.   Nor will buildings that say Co-Op Extension, Vet-Med Complex, Equine Center, Animal Science and Industry et. al.

 :users:

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Post by: TTownCatFan on June 06, 2007, 10:35:44 AM
It seems to me that the foundation will have many employees..which leads me to believe they will have lots of parking...and they dont work on saturdays do they?  So there should be another fair sized parking lot right next to the stadium now?  granted not as much as a crap filled tailgating field, but im personally all about tailgating where animals dont crap.
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Post by: stubborncat on June 06, 2007, 11:03:46 AM
It is nice to see the university growing to a point that we now see the university expanding north and the sports complex is no longer going to be "way out there" away from the rest of campus.  The downside to the growth for football game attending fans is parking will not be as easy to secure as it has.  We've been spoiled in that regard however when it is all said and done the parking will be better, people may just have to walk a little farther to get to that parking.

When the grain science complex is completed parking there will be twice what it is now.  When the Foundation building is done most of the sheep lot will be paved parking around the new building.  The new EquiCenter will have a huge paved parking area just behind the fire station on Kimball.  It will be a couple extra blocks to walk but the parking will be better.  If KSU/Manhattan gets selected for the new DHS research facility that will be built just north of the new biosecurity building (where the feed mill is now) so all of that ground will be lost for parking but the area will be a lot more attractive.  There are plans to upgrade the Agronomy farm across from the west parking lot with some additional classroom buildings and paved parking.  And, if the athletic department decides to redo the west parking lot as current HOK plans suggest there will be a reduction of parking in the west lot.  All of this will make the Kimball Avenue corridor of the campus look more like a college campus which is a good thing but I'm sure that won't stop many from complaining because they have to walk a little farther to park their car for a football game. 
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Post by: michigancat on June 06, 2007, 11:07:16 AM
I always park for free at the old hospital and walk, anyway.
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 06, 2007, 11:41:03 AM
It is nice to see the university growing to a point that we now see the university expanding north and the sports complex is no longer going to be "way out there" away from the rest of campus.  The downside to the growth for football game attending fans is parking will not be as easy to secure as it has.  We've been spoiled in that regard however when it is all said and done the parking will be better, people may just have to walk a little farther to get to that parking.

When the grain science complex is completed parking there will be twice what it is now.  When the Foundation building is done most of the sheep lot will be paved parking around the new building.  The new EquiCenter will have a huge paved parking area just behind the fire station on Kimball.  It will be a couple extra blocks to walk but the parking will be better.  If KSU/Manhattan gets selected for the new DHS research facility that will be built just north of the new biosecurity building (where the feed mill is now) so all of that ground will be lost for parking but the area will be a lot more attractive.  There are plans to upgrade the Agronomy farm across from the west parking lot with some additional classroom buildings and paved parking.  And, if the athletic department decides to redo the west parking lot as current HOK plans suggest there will be a reduction of parking in the west lot.  All of this will make the Kimball Avenue corridor of the campus look more like a college campus which is a good thing but I'm sure that won't stop many from complaining because they have to walk a little farther to park their car for a football game. 

When is the Grain Science Complex going to be completed??
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Post by: waks on June 06, 2007, 12:17:48 PM
It is nice to see the university growing to a point that we now see the university expanding north and the sports complex is no longer going to be "way out there" away from the rest of campus.  The downside to the growth for football game attending fans is parking will not be as easy to secure as it has.  We've been spoiled in that regard however when it is all said and done the parking will be better, people may just have to walk a little farther to get to that parking.

When the grain science complex is completed parking there will be twice what it is now.  When the Foundation building is done most of the sheep lot will be paved parking around the new building.  The new EquiCenter will have a huge paved parking area just behind the fire station on Kimball.  It will be a couple extra blocks to walk but the parking will be better.  If KSU/Manhattan gets selected for the new DHS research facility that will be built just north of the new biosecurity building (where the feed mill is now) so all of that ground will be lost for parking but the area will be a lot more attractive.  There are plans to upgrade the Agronomy farm across from the west parking lot with some additional classroom buildings and paved parking.  And, if the athletic department decides to redo the west parking lot as current HOK plans suggest there will be a reduction of parking in the west lot.  All of this will make the Kimball Avenue corridor of the campus look more like a college campus which is a good thing but I'm sure that won't stop many from complaining because they have to walk a little farther to park their car for a football game. 
Holy crap. Another Dax!

Have you by any chance been disassociated from the university recently?
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 06, 2007, 12:25:32 PM
You're all disassociated in your own way, you just don't know it yet.

 :loly:
Title: Re: Slightly OT: KSU Stadium/Sports Complex to get another new neighbor:
Post by: stubborncat on June 06, 2007, 12:46:59 PM
It is nice to see the university growing to a point that we now see the university expanding north and the sports complex is no longer going to be "way out there" away from the rest of campus.  The downside to the growth for football game attending fans is parking will not be as easy to secure as it has.  We've been spoiled in that regard however when it is all said and done the parking will be better, people may just have to walk a little farther to get to that parking.

When the grain science complex is completed parking there will be twice what it is now.  When the Foundation building is done most of the sheep lot will be paved parking around the new building.  The new EquiCenter will have a huge paved parking area just behind the fire station on Kimball.  It will be a couple extra blocks to walk but the parking will be better.  If KSU/Manhattan gets selected for the new DHS research facility that will be built just north of the new biosecurity building (where the feed mill is now) so all of that ground will be lost for parking but the area will be a lot more attractive.  There are plans to upgrade the Agronomy farm across from the west parking lot with some additional classroom buildings and paved parking.  And, if the athletic department decides to redo the west parking lot as current HOK plans suggest there will be a reduction of parking in the west lot.  All of this will make the Kimball Avenue corridor of the campus look more like a college campus which is a good thing but I'm sure that won't stop many from complaining because they have to walk a little farther to park their car for a football game. 

When is the Grain Science Complex going to be completed??


You will have to ask the Board of Regents and the State Legislature that question.  It was always the plan to use state funds to build the main teaching building of the new grain science complex and private funds to build the other four buildings on the new campus.  Money to build the new feed mill next to the new flour mill is currently being raised as part of the Changing Lives.  Unfortunately the feed industry has not jumped on the bandwagon and been as responsive as quickly as the milling industry was in providing funds for the new flour mill but I think they still hope to have the new feed mill built within the next three years.  As for the main teaching building it still is not showing up on the latest 5 year funding chart with the Board of Regents so it is a ways out.  As much of a struggle as it is becoming to secure money from the state for these types of buildings I suspect before it is all said and done the school will have to reach out to the private section to fund more of this building than they ever planned if they want it built anytime soon.  Unless the school can show that Shellenberger Hall is about ready to fall down I think it is going to be very tough to get $50 million out of the state anytime soon with the focus now on funding deferred maintenance projects. 
 
 
 
Title: Re: Slightly OT: KSU Stadium/Sports Complex to get another new neighbor:
Post by: Racquetball_Ninja on June 06, 2007, 01:51:57 PM
Spoken like your typical clueless KSU student.



QFT

Its about time, the old Foundation looks like a haunted manor.  A friend of mine is a DBA over so if I can get any inside info. I'll pass it along.  Not that any of you classless fockers would care.   :D
Title: Re: Slightly OT: KSU Stadium/Sports Complex to get another new neighbor:
Post by: purplehiatt on June 06, 2007, 05:07:44 PM
The foundation building as far as I know is also going to be LEED certified (green building).  I had saw the plans that "won" the "blind design competition" I thought it looked pretty nice, but those plans have basically been scrapped from what I have heard.  The firm I used to work for "won" the project...but are no longer in control of it now.
Title: Re: Slightly OT: KSU Stadium/Sports Complex to get another new neighbor:
Post by: ew2x4 on June 06, 2007, 05:31:25 PM
hiatt, Did you work for BBN? I used to work for AKA (they won the KSU oncall bid). I've been out of the loop. Who's doing it now?
Title: Re: Slightly OT: KSU Stadium/Sports Complex to get another new neighbor:
Post by: purplehiatt on June 06, 2007, 08:50:05 PM
No, I worked for a firm out of wichita...they won the initial blind design phase, but eventually lost the project, as ksu wanted to move in a different direction.
Title: Re: Slightly OT: KSU Stadium/Sports Complex to get another new neighbor:
Post by: Iceberg on June 09, 2007, 04:40:39 PM
Where will the sheep go?

Late post I know... (been "working" in Colorado this last week). The research centers are trying to mover further north. Don't knock me for knowing this, but I figured I would at to the conversation. The ag research units are trying to move further north for accomidate for other facilities... both educational and non-educational (aka, foundation). The sheep unit is moving north of the beef unit. The other facilities (North Farm) will remain mostly as is, becuase of the value of research use.
Title: Re: Slightly OT: KSU Stadium/Sports Complex to get another new neighbor:
Post by: CatWoman on June 11, 2007, 12:34:38 AM
They are really ruining all the good places for the students to tailgate.  That surgical center on the West side of the stadium really screwed any and all good tailgating for students.  But I'm an alumni who can drink freely in the parking lot, so what do I care?  Put as many nice buildings around the stadium as possible.  

I also think it'll ruin the tailgating atmosphere. They already screwed it up with the buildings directly across the street from the east paved lots. They are slowly ruining the absolute best tailgating in the BigXII. Seriously. I have been to all the stadiums in the conference, and NO ONE comes close to us. C'mon students. Start emailing and complaining to Welfald. At least maybe he won't let "anything else" take up anymore tailgate space.  :banghead:
Title: Re: Slightly OT: KSU Stadium/Sports Complex to get another new neighbor:
Post by: waks on June 11, 2007, 12:36:17 AM
I'd rather park on a paved lot than a sheep field. There isn't anything bad about this.
Title: Re: Slightly OT: KSU Stadium/Sports Complex to get another new neighbor:
Post by: CatWoman on June 11, 2007, 12:37:45 AM
waks, quit following me!  :-*
Title: Re: Slightly OT: KSU Stadium/Sports Complex to get another new neighbor:
Post by: waks on June 11, 2007, 12:44:48 AM
waks, quit following me!  :-*
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