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Sports => The Good, The Bad, and the "Meh" => Topic started by: catsfan20012002 on May 22, 2007, 01:42:35 PM
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http://www.kansascity.com/385/story/117995.html
Kansas City wants in on the Seattle Super Sonics.
Tim Leiweke, president of Anschutz Entertainment Group, which will manage the new downtown Sprint Center, said he was encouraged by comments made by Super Sonics chairman Clay Bennett in Monday’s editions of The Kansas City Star that he plans to consider the Kansas City market if his club moves from Seattle.
Bennett, who is an Oklahoma City businessman, has been frustrated at Seattle’s inability to come up with a plan for a new arena to replace outdated Key Arena, the second-smallest facility in the NBA. The Sonics’ lease does not expire until 2010, but the franchise could opt out for $75 million after the 2007-08 season. Bennett established an Oct. 31 deadline for another arena plan or he will move the team, and he has NBA Commissioner David Stern’s blessing to do. Oklahoma City enthusiastically supported the New Orleans Hornets during the past two seasons, but its Ford Center, a $90 million facility, will not produce the revenue streams the $276 million Sprint Center will provide.
The Sonics have some exciting players in Ray Allen (who is coming off ankle surgery that slowed him this season), Rashard Lewis (an unrestricted free agent whom they plan to re sign), Chris Wilcox (whom they recently re signed) and Luke Ridnour (whom they recently re signed). They're keeping that group together. Plus they've got Nick Collison to bring in the ku crowd and they're projected to get a Top 5 draft pick after tonight's lottery which could bring them another Gayhawk in Julian Wright if they don't manage to have Greg Oden or Kevin Durant fall into their lap.
:popcorn:
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kc will never get an nba team again.
we'll stick with the:
comets
blades
outlaws
brigade
t-bones
royals
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They gotta get something for that building and you better hope it's not the NHL if you want to actually see it. The NBA is more popular then it has been in awhile so why not give it another shot?
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I'm going on record today (5/22/07) and saying that Rusty's kickball team will be the anchor tenant of the Sprint Center.
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They gotta get something for that building and you better hope it's not the NHL if you want to actually see it. The NBA is more popular then it has been in awhile so why not give it another shot?
with all the fighting, kicking, beating up fans....
thugs..etc.
dont get me wrong..id love an NBA team....that why it wont happen.
NHL? that was a joke. hockey in KC? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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I would go to more NBA games at the Sprint Center than I would KSU bball and FB games combined (not even close).
I'm going on record today (5/22/07) and saying that Rusty's kickball team will be the anchor tenant of the Sprint Center.
:love:
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Bill Self, your 2008 KC SuperSonics head coach.
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They gotta get something for that building and you better hope it's not the NHL if you want to actually see it. The NBA is more popular then it has been in awhile so why not give it another shot?
with all the fighting, kicking, beating up fans....
thugs..etc.
dont get me wrong..id love an NBA team....that why it wont happen.
NHL? that was a joke. hockey in KC? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
No.....You're thinking of the NFL.
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Bill Self, your 2008 KC SuperSonics head coach.
I'm sure they'd change the name
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NBA, too many ku dorks.
That being said i'd probably go to 15-20 home games. The fact that you'd get to see some of the best athletes in the country perform individually is awesome. You can't get that w/ football and baseball.
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NBA, too many ku dorks.
Only when ku dorks play.
I think the talent gap between college basketball and NBA >>> any other pro sport.
The things NBA'ers can do is incredible, it's not like they're just a little bigger/faster like the NFL/MLBe.
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NBA, too many ku dorks.
Only when ku dorks play.
Uh..the Sonics?
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doh
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Please don't let this happen.
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Please don't let this happen.
It won't. Imagine that a Oklahoma City businessman is going to choose KC over his city?
Plus D.Stern loves Oklahoma Cityineases after they adopted his New Orleans club.
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Please don't let this happen.
It won't. Imagine that a Oklahoma City businessman is going to choose KC over his city?
Plus D.Stern loves Oklahoma Cityineases after they adopted his New Orleans club.
Good businessmen aren't the sentimental type. Dollar signs.
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Please don't let this happen.
It won't. Imagine that a Oklahoma City businessman is going to choose KC over his city?
Plus D.Stern loves Oklahoma Cityineases after they adopted his New Orleans club.
Good businessmen aren't the sentimental type. Dollar signs.
Don't tell Garth you really believe that.
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Garth wouldn't move KSU athletics to Ashland.
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Garth wouldn't move KSU athletics to Ashland.
It's good that Garth is sentimental.
EMAW!!!!!
:ksu:
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And the Sonics will be getting Kevin Durant.. Not too bad..
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And the Sonics will be getting Kevin Durant.. Not too bad..
You read my mind!
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And the Sonics will be getting Kevin Durant.. Not too bad..
You read my mind!
That's not funny.. :blank:
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Garth wouldn't move KSU athletics to Ashland.
Ashland, KS?
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Garth wouldn't move KSU athletics to Ashland.
Ashland, KS?
Yup
And the Sonics will be getting Kevin Durant.. Not too bad..
You read my mind!
Haha! :lol: :lol:
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http://www.kansascity.com/385/story/117995.html
Kansas City wants in on the Seattle Super Sonics.
Tim Leiweke, president of Anschutz Entertainment Group, which will manage the new downtown Sprint Center, said he was encouraged by comments made by Super Sonics chairman Clay Bennett in Monday’s editions of The Kansas City Star that he plans to consider the Kansas City market if his club moves from Seattle.
Bennett, who is an Oklahoma City businessman, has been frustrated at Seattle’s inability to come up with a plan for a new arena to replace outdated Key Arena, the second-smallest facility in the NBA. The Sonics’ lease does not expire until 2010, but the franchise could opt out for $75 million after the 2007-08 season. Bennett established an Oct. 31 deadline for another arena plan or he will move the team, and he has NBA Commissioner David Stern’s blessing to do. Oklahoma City enthusiastically supported the New Orleans Hornets during the past two seasons, but its Ford Center, a $90 million facility, will not produce the revenue streams the $276 million Sprint Center will provide.
The Sonics have some exciting players in Ray Allen (who is coming off ankle surgery that slowed him this season), Rashard Lewis (an unrestricted free agent whom they plan to re sign), Chris Wilcox (whom they recently re signed) and Luke Ridnour (whom they recently re signed). They're keeping that group together. Plus they've got Nick Collison to bring in the ku crowd and they're projected to get a Top 5 draft pick after tonight's lottery which could bring them another Gayhawk in Julian Wright if they don't manage to have Greg Oden or Kevin Durant fall into their lap.
:popcorn:
It looks like Kevin Durant is going to fall right into their laps. This will allow them to let Lewis go away!
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NBA, too many ku dorks.
Only when ku dorks play.
I think the talent gap between college basketball and NBA >>> any other pro sport.
The things NBA'ers can do is incredible, it's not like they're just a little bigger/faster like the NFL/MLBe.
It takes longer to crack the Majors than any other sport. How many guys go from starting college to starting MLB in consecutive seasons? Happens every year in the NBA and NFL.
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KC is nothing more than a bargaining chip to force Seattle to pony up for a new areana which they will eventually do.
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KC is nothing more than a bargaining chip to force Seattle to pony up for a new areana which they will eventually do.
"What a cheapcrap move."
Mario Lemeiux
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Garth wouldn't move KSU athletics to Ashland.
Ashland, KS?
Yup
And the Sonics will be getting Kevin Durant.. Not too bad..
You read my mind!
Haha! :lol: :lol:
i have relatives from ashland. thats why i asked.
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Ric Bucher was just on ESPNews talking about Oden and Durant when they also asked him about the Sonics. His prediction is that they're headed for OKC.
:violin:
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NBA, too many ku dorks.
Only when ku dorks play.
I think the talent gap between college basketball and NBA >>> any other pro sport.
The things NBA'ers can do is incredible, it's not like they're just a little bigger/faster like the NFL/MLBe.
This is the most retarded post you've ever made.
The MLB has a minor league system for a reason.
David Ortiz, perhaps the best hitter in baseball, didn't make any noise in the majors until 27.
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NBA, too many ku dorks.
Only when ku dorks play.
I think the talent gap between college basketball and NBA >>> any other pro sport.
The things NBA'ers can do is incredible, it's not like they're just a little bigger/faster like the NFL/MLBe.
This is the most retarded post you've ever made.
The MLB has a minor league system for a reason.
David Ortiz, perhaps the best hitter in baseball, didn't make any noise in the majors until 27.
What I'm saying is that NBA players can do things no other basketball players on the planet can do.
Example:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INpNwbRrMMc
There are thousands of players that can hit a home run and take a walk. What makes Ortiz great is that he can do it more consistently. He's not making incredible plays that no one else on the planet can make, like LeBron can.
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This is the most retarded post you've ever made.
The MLB has a minor league system for a reason.
David Ortiz, perhaps the best hitter in baseball, didn't make any noise in the majors until 27.
LOL. Excellent.
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No matter what Lebron does, the NBA will always blow until the playoffs.
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No matter what Lebron does, the NBA will always blow until the playoffs.
Even then, it still kind of sucks. Seriously, these playoffs have been awful.
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Just because Stern decided to &@#% up his best series and they don't reseed after the first round.
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No matter what Lebron does, the NBA will always blow until the playoffs.
Even then, it still kind of sucks. Seriously, these playoffs have been awful.
Root for Detroit vs. Hinrich, Gooden, Pollard, and hopefully Vaughn.
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NBA, too many ku dorks.
Only when ku dorks play.
I think the talent gap between college basketball and NBA >>> any other pro sport.
The things NBA'ers can do is incredible, it's not like they're just a little bigger/faster like the NFL/MLBe.
This is the most retarded post you've ever made.
The MLB has a minor league system for a reason.
David Ortiz, perhaps the best hitter in baseball, didn't make any noise in the majors until 27.
What I'm saying is that NBA players can do things no other basketball players on the planet can do.
Example:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INpNwbRrMMc
There are thousands of players that can hit a home run and take a walk. What makes Ortiz great is that he can do it more consistently. He's not making incredible plays that no one else on the planet can make, like LeBron can.
Lebron was doing those same things when he was in high school. He is athletic as all hell, no doubt about it. But that actually makes my point.
The immense development of skill and the sheer numbers, years and dollars of investment in young ballplayers who someday, maybe, possibly will turn into a superstar are incredible. The number of high school hurlers that throw in the 90s and can't even make a big league roster is incredible.
Dunking is a purely athletic thing. It really has nothing to do with skill or anything else. A walk or a homer is a skill that is dependent upon other players. The rim is always 10'. An at bat is much more dependent on the pitcher. Big league pitchers are nothing like high school/college/minor league pitchers.
You are right about so much, but on this you couldn't be more wrong.
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My goodness, how I love Kat Kid.
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Lebron was doing those same things when he was in high school. He is athletic as all hell, no doubt about it. But that actually makes my point.
The immense development of skill and the sheer numbers, years and dollars of investment in young ballplayers who someday, maybe, possibly will turn into a superstar are incredible. The number of high school hurlers that throw in the 90s and can't even make a big league roster is incredible.
Dunking is a purely athletic thing. It really has nothing to do with skill or anything else. A walk or a homer is a skill that is dependent upon other players. The rim is always 10'. An at bat is much more dependent on the pitcher. Big league pitchers are nothing like high school/college/minor league pitchers.
Dunking was just one example. Look at the jump shots Allen Iverson can get off or the passes Steve Nash can make:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrBr57LXmNE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trjJit37ucM&mode=related&search=
Granted, the rim is always 10 feet, but do you think a high school player can play defense as well as guys like Bruce Bowen?
I've seen guys like Dee Brown hit home runs against major league pitching, but I've never seen a guy like Jake Muelheisen dunk on Tim Duncan, much less get a shot off.
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Can high schoolers play defense as well as Bruce Bowen (generally regarded as the best in the league)? Probably not. But before the 19/one year rule that didn't stop the NBA from drafting high schoolers, foreigners, one-n-done college players and anyone else they thought was good enough to play and throwing them out on the court the season after they were drafted.
How much time did Kobe Bryant or Kevin Garnett spend down in the NBDL? How about players that clearly needed it like Wayne Simien or Kareem Rush? No. They came straight to the NBA.
For a major leaguer to make it to the big leagues they have to make it through the minors. The Royals are testing this theory (early returns are not looking good) but for the most part players in major league baseball are by far the most developed players in all of sports.
Baseball is played over 162 games. Of course it is about being consistent. Baseball doesn't have as much athletic movement or team play of course it doesn't compare well to the NBA. YOU said that the talent gap between the NBA and college/high school is soooo much greater than baseball where the players are just "a little bigger/faster." There are literally millions of people on this Earth faster than Randy Johnson (although much fewer "bigger") there are millions and millions of people "bigger" than Ken Griffey Jr. They have both developed highly specialized skills that may not be as "flashy" but are certainly much more significant than Dee Brown's homer. Deion Sanders "played" baseball, but that's kind of like saying Jacque Vaughn "plays" basketball in the NBA.
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The consistency aspect applies to MLB more than the bigger/faster thing...I'll admit that was poorly worded.
All I'm saying is I can see players hit home runs, strike people out with change ups, make great plays in centerfield, and steal bases at a T-Bones game. I can't see someone block shots like Ben Wallace, pass like Steve Nash, or shoot like Michael Redd at a USBL or CBA game.
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The consistency aspect applies to MLB more than the bigger/faster thing...I'll admit that was poorly worded.
All I'm saying is I can see players hit home runs, strike people out with change ups, make great plays in centerfield, and steal bases at a T-Bones game. I can't see someone block shots like Ben Wallace, pass like Steve Nash, or shoot like Michael Redd at a USBL or CBA game.
I bet I could block shots like Ben Wallace, pass like steve nash (but still not shoot like Michael Redd) in a 5th grade game of b-ball, the difference for both of us is the level of competition.
I don't understand why you seem to think that a home run at a T-bones game inspires the same amount of awe in you as at a big league game (royals don't really count). It clearly makes a difference for you with b-ball so I don't know what to tell you.
I think its a problem with you and not the game. Work on that. Or don't. Just try to make more sense like we all like you to do.
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I bet I could block shots like Ben Wallace, pass like steve nash (but still not shoot like Michael Redd) in a 5th grade game of b-ball, the difference for both of us is the level of competition.
No, no you couldn't, and LMAO for suggesting that. You also wouldn't be able to make cuts like Allen Iverson, make 12 foot bank hook shots from the post like Duncan, etc., etc., etc. Seriously, you think my original post was retarded?
:lol: :lol: :lol:
I don't understand why you seem to think that a home run at a T-bones game inspires the same amount of awe in you as at a big league game (royals don't really count). It clearly makes a difference for you with b-ball so I don't know what to tell you.
Um, never said that.
I don't have a problem w/ baseball, FWIW. There's a lot of good things about baseball - it's more like a "game" than any of the other major sports, and that makes it a lot of fun. You're just trying to make a stupid argument that really doesn't dispute what I'm trying to say and that I don't really disagree with.
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I think the talent gap between college basketball and NBA >>> any other pro sport.
Yes, well beyond retarded.
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Lebron was doing those same things when he was in high school. He is athletic as all hell, no doubt about it. But that actually makes my point.
The immense development of skill and the sheer numbers, years and dollars of investment in young ballplayers who someday, maybe, possibly will turn into a superstar are incredible. The number of high school hurlers that throw in the 90s and can't even make a big league roster is incredible.
Dunking is a purely athletic thing. It really has nothing to do with skill or anything else. A walk or a homer is a skill that is dependent upon other players. The rim is always 10'. An at bat is much more dependent on the pitcher. Big league pitchers are nothing like high school/college/minor league pitchers.
Dunking was just one example. Look at the jump shots Allen Iverson can get off or the passes Steve Nash can make:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrBr57LXmNE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trjJit37ucM&mode=related&search=
Granted, the rim is always 10 feet, but do you think a high school player can play defense as well as guys like Bruce Bowen?
I've seen guys like Dee Brown hit home runs against major league pitching, but I've never seen a guy like Jake Muelheisen dunk on Tim Duncan, much less get a shot off.
bruce bowen is a &@#%ing cheater. so yes i think there are lots of guys who can play defense much better than him only they cant get away with the bullcrap he does.
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I think the talent gap between college basketball and NBA >>> any other pro sport.
Yes, well beyond retarded.
heres where i disagree with that statement. the talent gap isnt as big, but the athleticism gap is. the nba is as much about talent as it is about athleticism whereas baseball is about skill and talent and not athleticism. in basketball you can make up for a lack of talent by being really athletic, see ben wallace or dennis rodman as an example. in baseball you can be athletic as hell but if you dont have the skills to hit a baseball it doesnt matter how many bases you can steal b/c you are pretty much worthless. the talent gap in terms of skill is greater in baseball between college and the pros than any other sport but the difference in terms of athleticism is probably greater in basketball than any other sport.
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The point stands that until the past year, it was common for a kid to go straight from High School to the NBA, and skip any development league.
This doesn't happen for MLB. Even out of college, the path to the bigs in MLB is much longer than for the NBA.
The comment about the talent gap may well go down as the single dumbest post in the history of KSUfans.com.
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The comment about the talent gap may well go down as the single dumbest post in the history of KSUfans.com.
No, there has definitely been dumber.
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I haven't been around long enough to see one.
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My god, I want an NBA team so bad.
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Can you imagine seeing Beasley play for a NBA team in KC?
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Or Durant
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The point stands that until the past year, it was common for a kid to go straight from High School to the NBA, and skip any development league.
This doesn't happen for MLB. Even out of college, the path to the bigs in MLB is much longer than for the NBA.
The comment about the talent gap may well go down as the single dumbest post in the history of KSUfans.com.
Your definition of "talent gap" is too narrow. (LOL)
And the fact that you think "time required in developmental leagues" is the best way to compare "talent gap" between a sport with a 2 (two) round draft and a sport with a 50 round draft goes well beyond retarded and into a whole new level of stupidity.
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I didn't think you could actually dig below the stupidity of your original post, but there you go.
The fact that the NBA only needs 2 rounds to keep rosters filled with enough talent just shows you how small the gap is. Baseball needs to draft over 50 prospects for each team because the talent gap is so wide that the fallout is tremendous, and even those that make it to the Majors take multiple years to get there. If the talent gap for MLB was similar to the NBA, there would be no need to draft 1500+ prospects a year, as you could easily project which ones would be successful in the league.
I'm actually more amazed that you're continuing this insane point. Is Aspergers common in your family?
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I didn't think you could actually dig below the stupidity of your original post, but there you go.
The fact that the NBA only needs 2 rounds to keep rosters filled with enough talent just shows you how small the gap is. Baseball needs to draft over 50 prospects for each team because the talent gap is so wide that the fallout is tremendous, and even those that make it to the Majors take multiple years to get there. If the talent gap for MLB was similar to the NBA, there would be no need to draft 1500+ prospects a year, as you could easily project which ones would be successful in the league.
I'm actually more amazed that you're continuing this insane point. Is Aspergers common in your family?
Stupid point to a stupid argument. You could just as easily make the argument that baseball needs 50 rounds because you don't really need to be an elite athlete to make it to the majors. You can just draft 50 a year and hope 3 or 4 of them make it.
There is no way that an NBA team could get many people with a prayer of being NBA quality past a fourth or fifth round. Heck, 2nd round picks get cut all the time.
I'm not saying that's the case, but your argument doesn't really dispute what I was trying to say, just like Kat Kid's.
Here's my basic point, which I didn't adequately address in my first "talent gap" post:
All I'm saying is I can see players hit home runs, strike people out with change ups, make great plays in centerfield, and steal bases at a T-Bones game. I can't see someone block shots like Ben Wallace, pass like Steve Nash, or shoot like Michael Redd at a USBL or CBA game.
Your minor league nonsense doesn't dispute that at all.
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I didn't think you could actually dig below the stupidity of your original post, but there you go.
The fact that the NBA only needs 2 rounds to keep rosters filled with enough talent just shows you how small the gap is. Baseball needs to draft over 50 prospects for each team because the talent gap is so wide that the fallout is tremendous, and even those that make it to the Majors take multiple years to get there. If the talent gap for MLB was similar to the NBA, there would be no need to draft 1500+ prospects a year, as you could easily project which ones would be successful in the league.
I'm actually more amazed that you're continuing this insane point. Is Aspergers common in your family?
Stupid point to a stupid argument. You could just as easily make the argument that baseball needs 50 rounds because you don't really need to be an elite athlete to make it to the majors. You can just draft 50 a year and hope 3 or 4 of them make it.
There is no way that an NBA team could get many people with a prayer of being NBA quality past a fourth or fifth round. Heck, 2nd round picks get cut all the time.
I'm not saying that's the case, but your argument doesn't really dispute what I was trying to say, just like Kat Kid's.
Here's my basic point, which I didn't adequately address in my first "talent gap" post:
All I'm saying is I can see players hit home runs, strike people out with change ups, make great plays in centerfield, and steal bases at a T-Bones game. I can't see someone block shots like Ben Wallace, pass like Steve Nash, or shoot like Michael Redd at a USBL or CBA game.
Your minor league nonsense doesn't dispute that at all.
basketball, specifically professional basketball, requires an athleticism level that most people do not have. baseball however requires a skill that can be developed by a much larger group of people. you dont have to be fast (which cant be taught) and you dont have to be able to jump (which cant be taught). almost anyone can learn how to throw a baseball and learning how to hit is a skill that can definitely be learned assuming you have hand eye coordination. probably not to the big league level but that is why it is harder to distinguish between the truly talented baseball players and the truly talented basketball players. you can watch a basketball team during warmups and tell who the most talented player is. i am extremely impressed by the truly great baseball players. they have a skill that is incredible to me, but most of them arent half the athlete that the typical nba basketball player is.
so in summary the fact that the nba only needs 2 rounds for a draft is b/c it is so obvious how many college and highschool basketball players arent athletic enough to make the nba. how often do you hear people talking about the mlb draft and discussing the potential upside of a player? it is a much more difficult task to determine who is really a good baseball player than it is to determine who is a really good basketball player.
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Stupid point to a stupid argument. You could just as easily make the argument that baseball needs 50 rounds because you don't really need to be an elite athlete to make it to the majors. You can just draft 50 a year and hope 3 or 4 of them make it.
There is no way that an NBA team could get many people with a prayer of being NBA quality past a fourth or fifth round. Heck, 2nd round picks get cut all the time.
I'm not saying that's the case, but your argument doesn't really dispute what I was trying to say, just like Kat Kid's.
Here's my basic point, which I didn't adequately address in my first "talent gap" post:
All I'm saying is I can see players hit home runs, strike people out with change ups, make great plays in centerfield, and steal bases at a T-Bones game. I can't see someone block shots like Ben Wallace, pass like Steve Nash, or shoot like Michael Redd at a USBL or CBA game.
Your minor league nonsense doesn't dispute that at all.
You are utterly and completely full of it. The reason the NBA doesn't draft more people is because they don't need to, not because the athletic skills aren't available. By drafting 2 people a year, a NBA team can keep a roster of 15 full of adequate players. That's not impressive, and indicates quite clearly that they're able to easily find this rare athlete...and the athlete is ready to contribute immediately to the highest level of basketball competition right out of college. If the NBA wasn't able to keep their roster full of legit talent, they would have more rounds. The gap is small, players can jump from high school and college (or scrub Euro leagues) immediately to the NBA.
If it was so hard to make it from college to the NBA, just name the last lottery pick that didn't play in the NBA due to talent. Every year there are PLENTY of MLB draft picks high in the first round that never get to the majors in their entire career, due 100% to talent. The simple fact is that there are several of high school kids right now with sufficient talent to play in the NBA immediately. This is simply not true for MLB.
As for the sheer lunacy of saying you can go find a guy that can mash homeruns, why isn't that guy playing for the Royals if he has the talent?
Jason Bennett blocked 16% of the 2 point jumpers taken while he was on the court. Ben Wallace doesn't do that. According to your genius, JB is NBA ready. Nathan Leeper could have dunked all over John Stockton, I guess Leeper was the NBA HOF'er, right?
And as for the insane notion that all it takes to play MLB is to develop a skill, prove it. Go make a MLB roster. Develop that skill, and drop your minimum wage job and start cashing 8 figure checks. If that's all it took, and didn't require any inherent abilities, the failure rate of baseball prospects wouldn't be so high.
The reality is that no amount of skill development would ever put your butt in the Majors, and you know it. That's why you're still scrubbing dishes and creating silly stats sites.
swish1 -- Why aren't you a MLB player earning millions if it's just a skill so many of us can develop? And the reason no one gets excited about MLB drafts is because the gap between college and the Majors is so immense it's pointless to really speculate on a prospect until he's spent a couple years in the minors. The reality is that only fools who have never seen MLB caliber pitching think that hitting .300 is just a matter of practicing a skill. There are tremendous college players that get drafted in the first round, and never play a minute on a major league roster. Name ONE college basketball stud that was drafted in the first by an NBA team and never played. Just one.
With the NBA you can look at a HS kid and see that he can contribute. That's a small gap.
You guys are ignoring reality in pursuit of a false strawman you've created. If the gap was so much greater for the NBA, the failure rate for prospects would be much, much higher. MLB has, by far, the highest failure rate for prospects of any major sport.
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^^Still not disputing my point.
You're kind of arguing with yourself right now.
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An NBA team would cripple the massive number of ku bandwagoners in KC. There are a lot of basketball fans in KC, and with ku being the only basketball team of any kind around, they're automatically drawn.
I hate, but can deal with, ku fans. ku bandwagoners are just horrible though. It's horrible trying to have an intelligent conversation about sports with them. They never know anything about the ku football team, and usually respond with something like "I'm not a college football fan, I love the Chiefs" or "I'm not a ku fan I just like their basketball team." But you can bet when basketball season rolls around, even if they don't even know the names of ku's starting five, they'll be talking trash. And then they mindlessly repeat what they read on the KC star and pretend like it's original thought and makes them sports experts. Soulless bastards.
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With the NBA you can look at a HS kid and see that he can contribute. That's a small gap.
You guys are ignoring reality in pursuit of a false strawman you've created. If the gap was so much greater for the NBA, the failure rate for prospects would be much, much higher. MLB has, by far, the highest failure rate for prospects of any major sport.
the fact that the failure rate isnt as high shows how obvious the talent gap is.