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Sports => Frank Martin's OOD sponsored by the "Angriest Fans in America" => Topic started by: catzacker on May 17, 2007, 10:42:54 AM
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Not good news from Frankie.
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I heard from a player "don't worry". HTH
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English Translation?
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Oppenheimer not coming? :confused:
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Oppenheimer not coming? :confused:
I'd say its a maybe at this time with a lean toward no.
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Oppenheimer not coming? :confused:
I'd say its a maybe at this time with a lean toward no.
:curse:
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Kent, Ohio > Manhattan, KS.
Kent freaking Ohio.
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Kent, Ohio > Manhattan, KS.
Kent freaking Ohio.
But not necessarily to Josh.
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I guess the package player he was supposed to be brining in is wavering.
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He's staying because of a player?
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Kent, Ohio > Manhattan, KS.
Kent freaking Ohio.
But not necessarily to Josh.
His wife must have drinking buddies in Kent.
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He's staying because of a player?
No, we're not taking him because he's not delivering the goods. Only reasonable explanation.
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this has sucked all the fun out of the hill/gtown thing.
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to the phog!
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Great day. Benneck leaves, VD is playing in Europe, and Oppenheimer is out because the wife won't come to Manhattan.
Why am I not surprised in the slightest. After all, WE ARE.....K-STATE!
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Blurb from the KC Star:
Also, Martin said Josh Oppenheimer is not yet an official member of his staff as one of his assistants. “We’re still trying to figure out if he can overcome some family issues,” Martin said of Oppenheimer, who has been an assistant at Kent State.
Martin said he is “still interviewing folks” for the assistant job.
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whats with these &@#%ing wives and manhattan.
god i hate wives.
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whats with these &*$@!ing wives and manhattan.
god i hate wives.
Women are pretty dumb. We never should have let them vote.
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End women's Suffrage! anyway. Remember one thing. Even if we didn't get this guy or Vdub, we still have the top recruit in the nation and Bill Walker. Life is good.
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End women's Suffrage! anyway. Remember one thing. Even if we didn't get this guy or Vdub, we still have the top recruit in the nation and Bill Walker. Life is good.
Yeah, we sure have gotten spoiled with this class. Imagine three years ago, we would have been estatic with a Sutton, Brown, or Pullen and now we are bitching because we don't see any other top 100 guys to add to our (already) number one recruitng class. Makes me appreciate the years I spent in Manhattan watching a team that probably didn't have one guy that would play any significant minutes on our current squad. Well, Manny Dies would be a welcome addition to this team.
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Kent, Ohio > Manhattan, KS.
Kent freaking Ohio.
Did Neil Young ever sing a song about K-State? No. We can't be expected to compete with that.
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Kent, Ohio > Manhattan, KS.
Kent freaking Ohio.
Did Neil Young ever sing a song about K-State? No. We can't be expected to compete with that.
Glenn Campbell?
Glenn Campbell - Manhattan Kansas
Manhattan, Kansas ain't no place to have a baby
When you got no man to give it his last name
And her folks back in Manhattan didn't want her or her bundle
So she took her child and caught an evenin' train
She found a job in Denver washing dishes in a diner
At least it buys her baby milk to drink
He once told her she was pretty but the only ring it got her
Was the ring of grease that runs around the sink
Yes she lay beside him gentle
'Cause he told her that he loved her
And he made her dance before the music played
But at least she didn't beg him
She'd rather wash her dishes
It makes her feel as if her hands are clean
At night she stands there thinkin'
'Bout the man back home in Kansas
And how her folks just turned away the shame
She stares down through the soap suds
Reaches down and pulls the drain plug
And watches as Manhattan drains away
Yes she lay beside him gentle
'Cause he told her that he loved her
And he made her dance before the music played
But at least she didn't beg him
She'd rather wash her dishes
It makes her feel as if her hands are clean
Yes it makes her feel as if her hands are clean
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to the phog!
:'(
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Hey, I'm not going to say one bad thing about Glen Campbell...the Rhinestone Cowboy...come on, that's solid country gold.
However, I doubt Op's old lady is a big country oldies fan.
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End women's Suffrage! anyway. Remember one thing. Even if we didn't get this guy or Vdub, we still have the top recruit in the nation and Bill Walker. Life is good.
Imagine three years ago, we would have been estatic with a Sutton, Brown, or Pullen and now we are bitching because we don't see any other top 100 guys to add to our (already) number one recruitng class. Makes me appreciate the years I spent in Manhattan watching a team that probably didn't have one guy that would play any significant minutes on our current squad. Well, Manny Dies would be a welcome addition to this team.
Thought I'd check 3 years ago. Curtis Allen, Fred Peete, Clent Stewart.
Estatic over Sutton? Yes.
Brown or Pullen? Not so much. Stewart/Allen (on paper) rated better than Brown/Pullen, FWIW.
And Peete was viewed pretty highly, better than Gilbert anyway. Plus we beat out OSU and OU for him.
Samuels would've been a pretty intriguing prospect then, but not estatic.
Again, the thing that makes this class is 2 top 10 players. That was literally inconcievable 3 years ago. Otherwise, the recruits we're getting are about the same as Wooly.
But the real difference maker IMO in recruiting is those Top 50 kids (and top 10, but those are incredible). My key for long term is to see if we continue to get top 50, let alone Top 10 kids.
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Somebody tell her that Manhattan is just like Carolina Coastal towns . . . she'll leave Ohio in a minute, every other freaking Ohio resident does.
:banghead:
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Again, the thing that makes this class is 2 top 10 players. That was literally inconcievable 3 years ago. Otherwise, the recruits we're getting are about the same as Wooly.
Yeah, it's stupid to analyze the 2007 class without Walker and Beasley included.
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if he buckles to her wants now he'll be doing it forever, and in OH no less. If he doesn't have the nads we're better off moving on.
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Well, they've been in Pittsburg (2 seasons), Newark (DE, 2 seasons), and Chicago (3 seasons) before Kent (2 seasons). Its possible she doesn't want to be in another small college town, but its also possible she's tired of moving (and their kids) after the last 10 years.
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Well, they've been in Pittsburg (2 seasons), Newark (DE, 2 seasons), and Chicago (3 seasons) before Kent (2 seasons). Its possible she doesn't want to be in another small college town, but its also possible she's tired of moving (and their kids) after the last 10 years.
Sounds like someone knows what they're talking about. PM me, please.
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Well, they've been in Pittsburg (2 seasons), Newark (DE, 2 seasons), and Chicago (3 seasons) before Kent (2 seasons). Its possible she doesn't want to be in another small college town, but its also possible she's tired of moving (and their kids) after the last 10 years.
She knows she married a basketball coach, right? It's not like he's an accountant for Ford Motor Company.
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Well, they've been in Pittsburg (2 seasons), Newark (DE, 2 seasons), and Chicago (3 seasons) before Kent (2 seasons). Its possible she doesn't want to be in another small college town, but its also possible she's tired of moving (and their kids) after the last 10 years.
I would not doubt this is exactly what is driving the decision and I appreciate all that having a family involves, especially in his line of work. That said, as the above post states, he's a college basketball coach and if moving up is at all his intent then moving is a necessity. In that it seems more likely that moving (or not in this case) is not what is truly driving this decision. If it is then his Mrs has slit his sack.
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Well, they've been in Pittsburg (2 seasons), Newark (DE, 2 seasons), and Chicago (3 seasons) before Kent (2 seasons). Its possible she doesn't want to be in another small college town, but its also possible she's tired of moving (and their kids) after the last 10 years.
I would not doubt this is exactly what is driving the decision and I appreciate all that having a family involves, especially in his line of work. That said, as the above post states, he's a college basketball coach and if moving up is at all his intent then moving is a necessity. In that it seems more likely that moving (or not in this case) is not what is truly driving this decision. If it is then his Mrs has slit his sack.
Ass.
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Again, the thing that makes this class is 2 top 10 players. That was literally inconcievable 3 years ago. Otherwise, the recruits we're getting are about the same as Wooly.
Yeah, it's stupid to analyze the 2007 class without Walker and Beasley included.
Ah yes. Heaven forbid GPC West take a hard look at anything that might compromise the way they wish to view their coaches. Maybe GPC West could use a blog from which they are able to make atrocious inferences about coaches and recruiting, too.
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Again, the thing that makes this class is 2 top 10 players. That was literally inconcievable 3 years ago. Otherwise, the recruits we're getting are about the same as Wooly.
Yeah, it's stupid to analyze the 2007 class without Walker and Beasley included.
Ah yes. Heaven forbid GPC West take a hard look at anything that might compromise the way they wish to view their coaches. Maybe GPC West could use a blog from which they are able to make atrocious inferences about coaches and recruiting, too.
Take a hard look then, chum. The only historical evidence is one class with 2 top 10 players.
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I think you've identified a trend.
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Ah yes. Heaven forbid GPC West take a hard look at anything that might compromise the way they wish to view their coaches. Maybe GPC West could use a blog from which they are able to make atrocious inferences about coaches and recruiting, too.
We had the number one PF/SF recruit in the country commit last June and a Top 10 SG/SF commit in June. You don't think that could have affected our chances of landing additional top 100 recruits at the 2-5 positions, do you?
It's also stupid to use the 2007 class alone to evaluate the coaches' recruiting ability, too (good or bad).
FWIW
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The three years back reference was arbitrary, not meant as that class in particular. However, even without Beas and BW, a class with one four star and four three stars would still have made us very pleased. (that class included two three stars and a no star) The nice thing is, we now basically have a team of guys rated three stars and above, whereas previously we would have a starting line-up of three star guys, and a bench full of one and no star guys.
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Ass.
I get it, you're saying that since it is for only an assistant job/pay that that is why he's not willing to move. Now that makes sense.
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I think you've identified a trend.
I'm confused as to your expectations. Are you expecting 2 top 10 players every year, and anything less is Wooly-like?
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The three years back reference was arbitrary, not meant as that class in particular. However, even without Beas and BW, a class with one four star and four three stars would still have made us very pleased. (that class included two three stars and a no star) The nice thing is, we now basically have a team of guys rated three stars and above, whereas previously we would have a starting line-up of three star guys, and a bench full of one and no star guys.
I don't get into the star rankings as much anymore beyond the 4 and 5 star guys. I seriously don't know how rivals does their rankings anymore, there is no way Peete shouldn't have been a 3 star player if Gilbert is. IMO Gilbert and Brown being 3 star players is a bit of a reach considering who recruited them. In those cases (3 star and below) I look more at who was offering kids besides us and if they made anyone's Top 100-150 rankings.
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The three years back reference was arbitrary, not meant as that class in particular. However, even without Beas and BW, a class with one four star and four three stars would still have made us very pleased. (that class included two three stars and a no star) The nice thing is, we now basically have a team of guys rated three stars and above, whereas previously we would have a starting line-up of three star guys, and a bench full of one and no star guys.
In 03-04 we had five 4-star players (Massey, Hayden, Martin, Richards & Willingham) the only players below 3 stars were Tim Ellis (way underrated by rivals, was the best player on the team that year), Tyler Hughes and Schyler Thomas. We were coming off three straight classes with multiple 4-star players in them. This class (minus BW and MB) would have merely been an average class for the time.
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We had the number one PF/SF recruit in the country commit last June and a Top 10 SG/SF commit in June. You don't think that could have affected our chances of landing additional top 100 recruits at the 2-5 positions, do you?
Outstanding. Tell me, which players were chomping at the bit to take the places of Beasley and Walker had they not come? You know, the real impact players. The top-50 guys that FAN is talking about.
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We had the number one PF/SF recruit in the country commit last June and a Top 10 SG/SF commit in June. You don't think that could have affected our chances of landing additional top 100 recruits at the 2-5 positions, do you?
Outstanding. Tell me, which players were chomping at the bit to take the places of Beasley and Walker had they not come? You know, the real impact players. The top-50 guys that FAN is talking about.
There were only 2 top 50 players unsigned when Huggins quit. Are you upset that the coaching staff couldn't get Patrick Patterson? :confused:
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We had the number one PF/SF recruit in the country commit last June and a Top 10 SG/SF commit in June. You don't think that could have affected our chances of landing additional top 100 recruits at the 2-5 positions, do you?
Outstanding. Tell me, which players were chomping at the bit to take the places of Beasley and Walker had they not come? You know, the real impact players. The top-50 guys that FAN is talking about.
The perfect example would be Herb Pope, who, IIRC, was reluctant to join Beasley and deal with a top 5 player at his position. It likely affected DeJuan Blair's decision, too.
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We had the number one PF/SF recruit in the country commit last June and a Top 10 SG/SF commit in June. You don't think that could have affected our chances of landing additional top 100 recruits at the 2-5 positions, do you?
Outstanding. Tell me, which players were chomping at the bit to take the places of Beasley and Walker had they not come? You know, the real impact players. The top-50 guys that FAN is talking about.
The perfect example would be Herb Pope, who, IIRC, was reluctant to join Beasley and deal with a top 5 player at his position. It likely affected DeJuan Blair's decision, too.
I guess you can indeed analyze the class without Walker and Beasley after all.
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you got him mjrod.
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someone send him an email with the link to manhattan being top ten places to retire to. then tell him to print it off and show the bitch
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I don't get into the star rankings as much anymore beyond the 4 and 5 star guys.
justin young has openly stated on the bball recruiting forum that he has no interest in evaluating beyond the top 150. not sure if the other guy feels the same.