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May 17, 2007, 01:55:49 PM
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Well, they've been in Pittsburg (2 seasons), Newark (DE, 2 seasons), and Chicago (3 seasons) before Kent (2 seasons).  Its possible she doesn't want to be in another small college town, but its also possible she's tired of moving (and their kids) after the last 10 years.


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May 17, 2007, 02:02:49 PM
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Well, they've been in Pittsburg (2 seasons), Newark (DE, 2 seasons), and Chicago (3 seasons) before Kent (2 seasons).  Its possible she doesn't want to be in another small college town, but its also possible she's tired of moving (and their kids) after the last 10 years.

She knows she married a basketball coach, right?  It's not like he's an accountant for Ford Motor Company. 

May 17, 2007, 02:12:52 PM
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Well, they've been in Pittsburg (2 seasons), Newark (DE, 2 seasons), and Chicago (3 seasons) before Kent (2 seasons).  Its possible she doesn't want to be in another small college town, but its also possible she's tired of moving (and their kids) after the last 10 years.


I would not doubt this is exactly what is driving the decision and I appreciate all that having a family involves, especially in his line of work.  That said, as the above post states, he's a college basketball coach and if moving up is at all his intent then moving is a necessity.  In that it seems more likely that moving (or not in this case) is not what is truly driving this decision.   If it is then his Mrs has slit his sack.
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May 17, 2007, 02:16:32 PM
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Well, they've been in Pittsburg (2 seasons), Newark (DE, 2 seasons), and Chicago (3 seasons) before Kent (2 seasons).  Its possible she doesn't want to be in another small college town, but its also possible she's tired of moving (and their kids) after the last 10 years.


I would not doubt this is exactly what is driving the decision and I appreciate all that having a family involves, especially in his line of work.  That said, as the above post states, he's a college basketball coach and if moving up is at all his intent then moving is a necessity.  In that it seems more likely that moving (or not in this case) is not what is truly driving this decision.   If it is then his Mrs has slit his sack.

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May 17, 2007, 02:17:26 PM
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Again, the thing that makes this class is 2 top 10 players.  That was literally inconcievable 3 years ago.  Otherwise, the recruits we're getting are about the same as Wooly. 

Yeah, it's stupid to analyze the 2007 class without Walker and Beasley included.

Ah yes.  Heaven forbid GPC West take a hard look at anything that might compromise the way they wish to view their coaches.  Maybe GPC West could use a blog from which they are able to make atrocious inferences about coaches and recruiting, too.

May 17, 2007, 02:20:04 PM
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Again, the thing that makes this class is 2 top 10 players.  That was literally inconcievable 3 years ago.  Otherwise, the recruits we're getting are about the same as Wooly. 

Yeah, it's stupid to analyze the 2007 class without Walker and Beasley included.

Ah yes.  Heaven forbid GPC West take a hard look at anything that might compromise the way they wish to view their coaches.  Maybe GPC West could use a blog from which they are able to make atrocious inferences about coaches and recruiting, too.

Take a hard look then, chum.  The only historical evidence is one class with 2 top 10 players. 

May 17, 2007, 02:21:25 PM
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I think you've identified a trend.

May 17, 2007, 02:22:34 PM
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Ah yes.  Heaven forbid GPC West take a hard look at anything that might compromise the way they wish to view their coaches.  Maybe GPC West could use a blog from which they are able to make atrocious inferences about coaches and recruiting, too.

We had the number one PF/SF recruit in the country commit last June and a Top 10 SG/SF commit in June.  You don't think that could have affected our chances of landing additional top 100 recruits at the 2-5 positions, do you?

It's also stupid to use the 2007 class alone to evaluate the coaches' recruiting ability, too (good or bad).

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May 17, 2007, 02:25:39 PM
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The three years back reference was arbitrary, not meant as that class in particular.  However, even without Beas and BW, a class with one four star and four three stars would still have made us very pleased.  (that class included two three stars and a no star)  The nice thing is, we now basically have a team of guys rated three stars and above, whereas previously we would have a starting line-up of three star guys, and a bench full of one and no star guys.  

May 17, 2007, 02:27:46 PM
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Ass.

I get it, you're saying that since it is for only an assistant job/pay that that is why he's not willing to move.  Now that makes sense.
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May 17, 2007, 02:28:44 PM
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I think you've identified a trend.

I'm confused as to your expectations.  Are you expecting 2 top 10 players every year, and anything less is Wooly-like?

May 17, 2007, 02:32:49 PM
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The three years back reference was arbitrary, not meant as that class in particular.  However, even without Beas and BW, a class with one four star and four three stars would still have made us very pleased.  (that class included two three stars and a no star)  The nice thing is, we now basically have a team of guys rated three stars and above, whereas previously we would have a starting line-up of three star guys, and a bench full of one and no star guys.  

I don't get into the star rankings as much anymore beyond the 4 and 5 star guys.  I seriously don't know how rivals does their rankings anymore, there is no way Peete shouldn't have been a 3 star player if Gilbert is.  IMO Gilbert and Brown being 3 star players is a bit of a reach considering who recruited them.  In those cases (3 star and below) I look more at who was offering kids besides us and if they made anyone's Top 100-150 rankings.  

May 17, 2007, 03:06:08 PM
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The three years back reference was arbitrary, not meant as that class in particular.  However, even without Beas and BW, a class with one four star and four three stars would still have made us very pleased.  (that class included two three stars and a no star)  The nice thing is, we now basically have a team of guys rated three stars and above, whereas previously we would have a starting line-up of three star guys, and a bench full of one and no star guys.  

In 03-04 we had five 4-star players (Massey, Hayden, Martin, Richards & Willingham) the only players below 3 stars were Tim Ellis (way underrated by rivals, was the best player on the team that year), Tyler Hughes and Schyler Thomas.  We were coming off three straight classes with multiple 4-star players in them.  This class (minus BW and MB) would have merely been an average class for the time. 

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May 17, 2007, 03:39:36 PM
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We had the number one PF/SF recruit in the country commit last June and a Top 10 SG/SF commit in June.  You don't think that could have affected our chances of landing additional top 100 recruits at the 2-5 positions, do you?

Outstanding.  Tell me, which players were chomping at the bit to take the places of Beasley and Walker had they not come?  You know, the real impact players.  The top-50 guys that FAN is talking about.

May 17, 2007, 03:47:13 PM
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We had the number one PF/SF recruit in the country commit last June and a Top 10 SG/SF commit in June.  You don't think that could have affected our chances of landing additional top 100 recruits at the 2-5 positions, do you?

Outstanding.  Tell me, which players were chomping at the bit to take the places of Beasley and Walker had they not come?  You know, the real impact players.  The top-50 guys that FAN is talking about.

There were only 2 top 50 players unsigned when Huggins quit.  Are you upset that the coaching staff couldn't get Patrick Patterson?    :confused:
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May 17, 2007, 03:49:47 PM
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We had the number one PF/SF recruit in the country commit last June and a Top 10 SG/SF commit in June.  You don't think that could have affected our chances of landing additional top 100 recruits at the 2-5 positions, do you?

Outstanding.  Tell me, which players were chomping at the bit to take the places of Beasley and Walker had they not come?  You know, the real impact players.  The top-50 guys that FAN is talking about.

The perfect example would be Herb Pope, who, IIRC, was reluctant to join Beasley and deal with a top 5 player at his position.  It likely affected DeJuan Blair's decision, too.

May 17, 2007, 07:56:10 PM
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We had the number one PF/SF recruit in the country commit last June and a Top 10 SG/SF commit in June.  You don't think that could have affected our chances of landing additional top 100 recruits at the 2-5 positions, do you?

Outstanding.  Tell me, which players were chomping at the bit to take the places of Beasley and Walker had they not come?  You know, the real impact players.  The top-50 guys that FAN is talking about.

The perfect example would be Herb Pope, who, IIRC, was reluctant to join Beasley and deal with a top 5 player at his position.  It likely affected DeJuan Blair's decision, too.

I guess you can indeed analyze the class without Walker and Beasley after all. 

May 17, 2007, 08:31:12 PM
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May 17, 2007, 09:01:02 PM
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someone send him an email with the link to manhattan being top ten places to retire to.  then tell him to print it off and show the bitch

May 18, 2007, 10:50:26 AM
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I don't get into the star rankings as much anymore beyond the 4 and 5 star guys.

justin young has openly stated on the bball recruiting forum that he has no interest in evaluating beyond the top 150.  not sure if the other guy feels the same.
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