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Title: "Riotville"
Post by: QuinnMac on May 02, 2007, 01:35:13 PM
The easy answer is b/c I was born between the two games, but why have I not heard of this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aggieville_Riots (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aggieville_Riots)
Title: Re: "Riotville"
Post by: WildCatzPhreak on May 02, 2007, 01:40:00 PM
The easy answer is b/c I was born between the two games, but why have I not heard of this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aggieville_Riots (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aggieville_Riots)
I don't know.  Those were pretty significant/infamous.

Luckily JTKSU was able to defend/cover up the K-state involvement for the most part, so most of the blame was placed on angry ku fans.  The truth is it was really MJ's fault.
Title: Re: "Riotville"
Post by: QuinnMac on May 02, 2007, 01:44:51 PM
I see, was anyone there?  I hear MJ can get a bit out of control at times, good thing we have upstanding citizens like JT to help guide us to the light of a greater KSU.
Title: Re: "Riotville"
Post by: Trog on May 02, 2007, 01:46:21 PM
The easy answer is b/c I was born between the two games, but why have I not heard of this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aggieville_Riots (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aggieville_Riots)

That would be pre Snyder and pre 30 game non-win streak.  Most people don't remember much from the era of 2-3 wins and we are happy.  I attended both riots  :ohno: and even helped some of the stores clean up broken glass after the second one.  
Title: Re: "Riotville"
Post by: WildCatzPhreak on May 02, 2007, 01:47:40 PM
What were the riots like?  I too, was born in between the two.
Title: Re: "Riotville"
Post by: Trog on May 02, 2007, 01:52:37 PM
some poor students VW bug got turned upside down.   Some windows broke, I don't remember being too concerned about saftety, we definitely don't do it up like Detroit.  As I remember a lot of the blame was put on HS kids -probably tennis players.  The year after the second riot was hilarious as they had fenced in aggieville with checkpoints to just get into the area.
Title: Re: "Riotville"
Post by: WildCatzPhreak on May 02, 2007, 01:55:07 PM
some poor students VW bug got turned upside down.   Some windows broke, I don't remember being too concerned about saftety, we definitely don't do it up like Detroit.  As I remember a lot of the blame was put on HS kids -probably tennis players.  The year after the second riot was hilarious as they had fenced in aggieville with checkpoints to just get into the area.
fatty sr? :peek:
Title: Re: "Riotville"
Post by: Trog on May 02, 2007, 01:58:04 PM
Or MJROD although he would have been a sophmore for the first riot.

An the tear gas shot into the crowd during #2, I believe, was pretty nasty.
Title: Re: "Riotville"
Post by: Trog on May 02, 2007, 02:01:58 PM
The easy answer is b/c I was born between the two games, but why have I not heard of this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aggieville_Riots (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aggieville_Riots)

Other historical events:  Ever hear of the 1982 season and the genius that was Coach Dickey?
Title: Re: "Riotville"
Post by: Poopley on May 02, 2007, 02:07:48 PM
The college kids blamed the high school kids and the high school kids blamed the GIs, who blamed the college students, specifically the Greeks. It was a combination of all + too much booze.
Title: Re: "Riotville"
Post by: Trog on May 02, 2007, 02:09:25 PM
The college kids blamed the high school kids and the high school kids blamed the GIs, who blamed the college students, specifically the Greeks. It was a combination of all + too much booze.
I think it was the crowd from Riley (not the Fort)
Title: Re: "Riotville"
Post by: Saulbadguy on May 02, 2007, 02:09:54 PM
Surely catfan28 remembers the riots.  or ksu_FAN
Title: Re: "Riotville"
Post by: Super Nintendo Chalmers on May 02, 2007, 02:11:36 PM
I was there. 84 was my sophomore year, and was in Aggieville when it happened. I honestly think it has grown in legend over the years. There weren't any real safety issues that I remember. My roommate said a bunch of people rushed a convenience store, started grabbing beer, and chips, and stuff. My roommate, ever a forward thinking person, grabbed gallons of milk, cold cuts, and bread...we ate like kings for a few weeks.
Title: Re: "Riotville"
Post by: Trog on May 02, 2007, 02:12:16 PM
We should institute either KSU history or Aggieville history as a required course much like the Texans and their high school "Texas History" requirement.
Title: Re: "Riotville"
Post by: Trog on May 02, 2007, 02:14:03 PM
I was there. 84 was my sophomore year, and was in Aggieville when it happened. I honestly think it has grown in legend over the years. There weren't any real safety issues that I remember. My roommate said a bunch of people rushed a convenience store, started grabbing beer, and chips, and stuff. My roommate, ever a forward thinking person, grabbed gallons of milk, cold cuts, and bread...we ate like kings for a few weeks.

ROTFLMAO - I can see it now a couple of drunk college students running down the street with bread and milk under their arms :lol: :lol: :lol:

Title: Re: "Riotville"
Post by: ksu_FAN on May 02, 2007, 02:14:26 PM
Surely catfan28 remembers the riots.  or ksu_FAN

I was still in grade school.  The main thing I remember is the pictures of the VW bug that was rolled over.

Title: Re: "Riotville"
Post by: Super Nintendo Chalmers on May 02, 2007, 02:15:04 PM
I was there. 84 was my sophomore year, and was in Aggieville when it happened. I honestly think it has grown in legend over the years. There weren't any real safety issues that I remember. My roommate said a bunch of people rushed a convenience store, started grabbing beer, and chips, and stuff. My roommate, ever a forward thinking person, grabbed gallons of milk, cold cuts, and bread...we ate like kings for a few weeks.

ROTFLMAO - I can see it now a couple of drunk college students running down the street with bread and milk under their arms :lol: :lol: :lol:



We made fun of him at first...but then quickly saw the wisdom in his action the next day!
Title: Re: "Riotville"
Post by: Saulbadguy on May 02, 2007, 02:15:19 PM
We should institute either KSU history or Aggieville history as a required course much like the Texans and their high school "Texas History" requirement.
Someone posted a link to a HUGE PDF that had the entire history of Aggieville, from the beginning to present. It was many pages.  I think it was here..i'll try and find it.
Title: Re: "Riotville"
Post by: Saulbadguy on May 02, 2007, 02:16:47 PM
Here we go. Cyclist posted it over a year ago.

Here's a pdf file about Aggieville:

http://www.unh.edu/geography/Pages/Campus%20Corners.pdf (http://www.unh.edu/geography/Pages/Campus%20Corners.pdf)

:beerchug:
Title: Re: "Riotville"
Post by: Saulbadguy on May 02, 2007, 02:17:17 PM
Damn. It's no longer there. :(
Title: Re: "Riotville"
Post by: QuinnMac on May 02, 2007, 02:19:07 PM
why did the University of New Hampshire have a pdf file about the history of Aggieville?
Title: Re: "Riotville"
Post by: Saulbadguy on May 02, 2007, 02:20:39 PM
why did the University of New Hampshire have a pdf file about the history of Aggieville?
It was a report on campus college life, or something like that.
Title: Re: "Riotville"
Post by: pissclams on May 02, 2007, 02:21:39 PM
There were pictures in Rusty's Outback of the riot.  hth.
Title: Re: "Riotville"
Post by: Trog on May 02, 2007, 02:22:28 PM
Surely catfan28 remembers the riots.  or ksu_FAN

I was still in grade school.  The main thing I remember is the pictures of the VW bug that was rolled over.



We were laughing at the bug when it was rolled mainly because there was much anticipation that a second riot might occur, and the streets were almost void of all cars, except for a lonely little beetle.  You felt sorry for the poor owner but what where they thinking? :banghead:
Title: Re: "Riotville"
Post by: QuinnMac on May 02, 2007, 02:25:32 PM
There were pictures in Rusty's Outback of the riot.  hth.

I'll have to check for them next time I stop in there.
Title: Re: "Riotville"
Post by: FBWillie on May 02, 2007, 02:27:33 PM
My boss was one of the ku alums arrested in the second riot... I hold it over him quite often.  That was the year that Kite's burnt down... correct?
Title: Re: "Riotville"
Post by: Trog on May 02, 2007, 02:32:45 PM
They were unrelated events, but i don't remember if it was the same year or not...they all run together after  :cheers: err, i mean time
Title: Re: "Riotville"
Post by: FBWillie on May 02, 2007, 02:35:06 PM
Considering I was 3 & 5 for each of them; I just have to go off of what people tell me. 
Title: Re: "Riotville"
Post by: Pike on May 02, 2007, 04:34:36 PM
"They were some of the earliest collegiate sports-related riots in the United States."

There's our tradition that the Corn claims we don't have
Title: Re: "Riotville"
Post by: Tulsa Cat on May 02, 2007, 05:08:20 PM
Bah, over blown.  We used to party hard then.  I remember running down the street with 30-40 people holding part of the goal post and ripping into cars.  No wait that was my car.  :confused:  Anyway.. yeah with a 18 drinking age the party after a victory (they were very hard to come by then ) was intense.  There were a few times my friends and I would party somewhere other than aggieville to avoid the "mess". :frown:
Title: Re: "Riotville"
Post by: kstate16 on May 02, 2007, 07:47:25 PM
"They were some of the earliest collegiate sports-related riots in the United States."

There's our tradition that the Corn claims we don't have
:dancin:
Title: Re: "Riotville"
Post by: Wildcat Jack on May 02, 2007, 08:28:42 PM
I was at all three games.

Didn't make the riot in '84 was a junior in HS and went with my folks, I did get on the north goalpost, when it came down I went home.

'86 was in Aggieville and was walking in the alley behind what is now Pat's BBQ, when a mad rush of the crowd came running at us, we ducked into a doorway to let 'em by and a tear gas hit about 50' from us...we hoofed it out of there, but caught a small whiff of the gas...quite an unpleasant experience.

'87 game was truly rotten.  Aggieville was a tomb.  We went and drank somewhere else.
Title: Re: "Riotville"
Post by: Trim on May 02, 2007, 09:47:19 PM
Damn. It's no longer there. :(

I saved that thing on my computer for some reason but don't have the slightest idea how I could link it.  Could e-mail it to somebody who can.
Title: Re: "Riotville"
Post by: mjrod on May 02, 2007, 09:53:38 PM
I see my name is being used again.

No, I didn't cause the riot.  I was just in the front when it all started.  I remember being near the VW when it was tipped.  It was a crazy night.  I was pretty well drunk.

And yes, I was a sophomore.

God, do I feel old.
Title: Re: "Riotville"
Post by: mjrod on May 02, 2007, 09:54:04 PM
Damn. It's no longer there. :(

I saved that thing on my computer for some reason but don't have the slightest idea how I could link it.  Could e-mail it to somebody who can.

E-mail me.

[email protected]

Title: Re: "Riotville"
Post by: mjrod on May 02, 2007, 10:10:32 PM
http://www.ksufans.com/docs/Campus_Corners.pdf
Title: Re: "Riotville"
Post by: WildCatzPhreak on May 02, 2007, 10:12:16 PM
I see my name is being used again.

No, I didn't cause the riot.  I was just in the front when it all started.  I remember being near the VW when it was tipped.  It was a crazy night.  I was pretty well drunk.

And yes, I was a sophomore.

God, do I feel old.

I knew you were involved.  You're so shady..

The birth of the classless cats = riotville?
Title: Re: "Riotville"
Post by: mjrod on May 02, 2007, 10:18:27 PM
I see my name is being used again.

No, I didn't cause the riot.  I was just in the front when it all started.  I remember being near the VW when it was tipped.  It was a crazy night.  I was pretty well drunk.

And yes, I was a sophomore.

God, do I feel old.

I knew you were involved.  You're so shady..

The birth of the classless cats = riotville?

I was classless before it was cool.
Title: Re: "Riotville"
Post by: doom on May 02, 2007, 10:40:16 PM
Jmart, I hope you're reading this.  It's the scoop of a lifetime.  MJROD and KSUfans are responsible for the riots in aggieville.
Title: Re: "Riotville"
Post by: CatWoman on May 03, 2007, 01:09:42 AM
http://www.ksufans.com/docs/Campus_Corners.pdf

WOW, MJ. Thanks for that link. Very informative and interesting. Wouldn't you LOVE to see pictures from begining to end? Or pics of the bonfires, rallies, riots, hippies sitting on the sidewalks, etc.? Anyone have any, or know where to find some?????   :-[
Title: Re: "Riotville"
Post by: Trog on May 03, 2007, 06:48:06 AM


I was classless before it was cool.

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Can we get a timeline here?  I'm having a hard time remembering when you hit "cool" :loly:
Title: Re: "Riotville"
Post by: mjrod on May 03, 2007, 02:05:59 PM
Quote

I was classless before it was cool.


Can we get a timeline here?  I'm having a hard time remembering when you hit "cool" :loly:

I remember everyone having to explain even the simplest things to you, so I can imagine why you're confused about this.

 :billypopcorn:
Title: Re: "Riotville"
Post by: mjrod on May 03, 2007, 02:14:27 PM
http://www.ksufans.com/docs/Campus_Corners.pdf

WOW, MJ. Thanks for that link. Very informative and interesting. Wouldn't you LOVE to see pictures from begining to end? Or pics of the bonfires, rallies, riots, hippies sitting on the sidewalks, etc.? Anyone have any, or know where to find some?????   :-[

I would have gotten some pictures but the camera on my cellphone didn't work.
Title: Re: "Riotville"
Post by: ECN on May 03, 2007, 02:33:18 PM
sure it was the camerphone that didnt work..or that it wasnt invented yet.?

(http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/5842/cellphoneoldho5.jpg)
Title: Re: "Riotville"
Post by: mjrod on May 03, 2007, 03:00:51 PM
sure it was the camerphone that didnt work..or that it wasnt invented yet.?

(http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/5842/cellphoneoldho5.jpg)

 :D
Title: Re: "Riotville"
Post by: billyzabka on May 03, 2007, 04:05:56 PM
Just finished reading all 47 pages - pretty interesting. Diane Meredith, the lady who owns The Dusty Bookshelf sounds like a b*&#h.
Title: Re: "Riotville"
Post by: Tulsa Cat on May 03, 2007, 04:48:27 PM
Picture?  You mean like photographs?  This was pre-digital.  Who in their right mind takes a camera to a riot? If you take any camera to a riot then the rioters would likely kick your ass for taking pictures.  Do you people not know riot etiquette?  Really!  Do us OLD guys have to explain? :shy: :users:
Title: Re: "Riotville"
Post by: coitus on May 03, 2007, 05:05:19 PM
"Baghdad on the Kaw"

awesome....has a whole new meaning now.
Title: Re: "Riotville"
Post by: QuinnMac on May 04, 2007, 02:05:36 AM
There were pictures in Rusty's Outback of the riot.  hth.
I was just there and looked around, couldn't find them in the outback we didn't check the other parts though.
Title: Re: "Riotville"
Post by: CatWoman on May 04, 2007, 02:21:11 AM
Picture?  You mean like photographs?  This was pre-digital.  Who in their right mind takes a camera to a riot? If you take any camera to a riot then the rioters would likely kick your ass for taking pictures.  Do you people not know riot etiquette?  Really!  Do us OLD guys have to explain? :shy: :users:

Like a news person couldn't have taken any pictures? Especially in 1986 when they were "prepared" for another POSSIBLE riot. Also, there REALLY should be some pictures somewhere of the very early years, rallies, etc.
Title: Re: "Riotville"
Post by: Tulsa Cat on May 04, 2007, 08:17:51 AM
Don't misunderstand, there were pictures.  News crews got attacked by mobs for taking them.  Some people were arrested for trying to get the cameras.  Let me clue some of you in.  During a riot its a mob mentality for most of the people present.  Normal behavior does not apply.  You have a camera and someone may just swing a bat at your head.  Its a very scary place to be.  It was dangerous there even for KSU fans.  ku fans literally ran like their lives depended upon it. They sorta did.  Lokking back it doesn't seem as bad.  But I clearly remember a lot of us having some very close calls.  The feeling at the time from most of us students was that it was a good time that was was taken out of control my a relatively small group of non-students high or drunk.  You have to remember the context of the times. Half the people I knew then were stoned by saturday night.
Title: Re: "Riotville"
Post by: Buddha_Cat on May 04, 2007, 10:01:15 AM
http://www.ksufans.com/docs/Campus_Corners.pdf
Read this and emailed the author to tell him I thought the paper was very informative and well written.  Small world, he is a professor at the University of New Hampshire and......  he graduated with a BS in Journalism from ku.....