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Title: Is Duke's Decade Of Dominance over?
Post by: chum1 on March 27, 2007, 06:56:30 AM
I think they're pretty screwed - at least for a little while.

http://www.bleacherreport.com/college/ncaa%11fb%11editorspicks/how-duke-basketball-lost-its-mojo-200703191094/ (http://www.bleacherreport.com/college/ncaa%11fb%11editorspicks/how-duke-basketball-lost-its-mojo-200703191094/)
Title: Re: Is Duke's Decade Of Dominance over?
Post by: CatsNShocks on March 27, 2007, 12:19:24 PM
Gawd, I hope so.
And I think it actually started last year.
They rode their reputation all year long this year.
Title: Re: Is Duke's Decade Of Dominance over?
Post by: michigancat on March 27, 2007, 12:27:15 PM
I'm indifferent at worst when it comes to Duke.  I don't get what the big deal is.
Title: Re: Is Duke's Decade Of Dominance over?
Post by: coitus on March 27, 2007, 12:36:39 PM
duke's 2007 class:

#5 kyle singler
#22 taylor king
#25 nolan smith

the 2006 class:
#10 gerald henderson
#20 lance thomas
#25 brian zoubek
#28 john scheyer

the 2005 class:
#1 josh mcroberts
#13 greg paulus
#39 eric boateng
#53 martynas pocius
#60 jamal boykin

boykin and boateng are no longer on the team.

sure they've had some misses, but recruiting 7 top 30 players in 2 years is not a recipe for disaster.

how would you feel if huggs signed 7 top 30 players over the next 2 years?
Title: Re: Is Duke's Decade Of Dominance over?
Post by: michigancat on March 27, 2007, 12:37:55 PM
how would you feel if huggs signed 7 top 30 players over the next 2 years?

Good.
Title: Re: Is Duke's Decade Of Dominance over?
Post by: chum1 on March 27, 2007, 12:41:47 PM
People dislike Duke basketball for the same sorts of reasons they dislike Notre Dame football. 
Title: Re: Is Duke's Decade Of Dominance over?
Post by: michigancat on March 27, 2007, 12:44:42 PM
People dislike Duke basketball for the same sorts of reasons they dislike Notre Dame football. 

Lack of success relative to their exposure?  I don't think Duke quite fits into that category.
Title: Re: Is Duke's Decade Of Dominance over?
Post by: coitus on March 27, 2007, 12:50:45 PM
People dislike Duke basketball for the same sorts of reasons they dislike Notre Dame football. 

i think the yankees might be a better comparison.
Title: Re: Is Duke's Decade Of Dominance over?
Post by: chum1 on March 27, 2007, 12:53:48 PM
People dislike Duke basketball for the same sorts of reasons they dislike Notre Dame football. 

Lack of success relative to their exposure?  I don't think Duke quite fits into that category.

No, people hate Notre Dame even when they are good.  It's things like being a media darling, getting more than their fair share of exposure, and perceived special treatment given.  It's not really about Duke (or Notre Dame) and what they do.  It's about how they're treated differently by others.

People dislike Duke basketball for the same sorts of reasons they dislike Notre Dame football. 

i think the yankees might be a better comparison.

If for the types of reasons above, I might agree.
Title: Re: Is Duke's Decade Of Dominance over?
Post by: michigancat on March 27, 2007, 12:59:36 PM
People dislike Duke basketball for the same sorts of reasons they dislike Notre Dame football. 

Lack of success relative to their exposure?  I don't think Duke quite fits into that category.

No, people hate Notre Dame even when they are good.  It's things like being a media darling, getting more than their fair share of exposure, and perceived special treatment given.  It's not really about Duke (or Notre Dame) and what they do.  It's about how they're treated differently by others.

"Special treatment" is always given to the elite.
Title: Re: Is Duke's Decade Of Dominance over?
Post by: ksu_FAN on March 27, 2007, 01:15:58 PM
People hate Duke b/c they are jealous of their program. 

Who wouldn't want the 68 NCAA tournament wins, 17 Sweet 16s (including 9 straight!), 11 Elite 8s, 10 Final Fours, 7 National Title game appearances, and 3 National Titles that they've had under Coach K.

Those are rediculous, and all while running what appears to be a clean program. 
Title: Re: Is Duke's Decade Of Dominance over?
Post by: chum1 on March 27, 2007, 02:10:23 PM
It's not just about the winning.  People didn't hate Carolina under Dean Smith the way that they hate Duke now.  Sure, Carolina didn't win as much as Duke, but they didn't receive nearly as much hate either.  Not even close. 
Title: Re: Is Duke's Decade Of Dominance over?
Post by: fatty fat fat on March 27, 2007, 02:18:08 PM
test
Title: Re: Is Duke's Decade Of Dominance over?
Post by: snart on March 27, 2007, 02:20:40 PM
Duke’s problem isn’t with the players, it’s with their coach.  Krewzajakouscyiziwakiozuitski is so overrated that it isn’t even funny anymore.  He has been getting multiple McDonald All-Americans each and every year and he always has both a line-up and bench full of them, but they play soft and they continually underachieve.  Give those players to a hard-nosed, demanding coach and Duke wins three out of every four Nation Championships.  But I don’t care much for Duke, and I have no compassion for their problems...
Title: Re: Is Duke's Decade Of Dominance over?
Post by: chum1 on March 27, 2007, 02:28:12 PM
That's a strong opinion.  Is Durham one big ghetto or something?
Title: Re: Is Duke's Decade Of Dominance over?
Post by: snart on March 27, 2007, 03:04:24 PM
What's your problem chum?  You pretty much act like an a$$hole all the time, don't you?
Title: Re: Is Duke's Decade Of Dominance over?
Post by: pissclams on March 27, 2007, 03:10:17 PM
Is Duke's Decade Of Dominance over? Heck Chum1, I don't know.  I don't know.
Could there be a little crumbling on the iron clad armor that is Duke 'hoops?  Sure seems like it.
Looks to me like a team called the Kansas State Wildcats won more games this season than the Dookies.  But that's ok, they're going to get their wins, their losses, some OT games that turn into real thrillers for people to remember the season about.  It's something called basketball lore.  Decode the decade is a term I often used when describing the Dookie's penchant for punishing people in the pivot.  That seems to be changing...McRoberts has declared himself eligible for the draft.  Next year Duke's pivot will be one man short, as McRoberts, the versatile sophomore forward, who averaged 13 points, 7.9 rebounds and 3.5 assists this past season, decided to forgo his final two years in Durham.  Don't forget that there is more to a team than the number of BURGERBOYS that sit on the bench of the number of stars next to a recruit's name.
Title: Re: Is Duke's Decade Of Dominance over?
Post by: slucat on March 27, 2007, 03:10:28 PM
I have wondered about Duke, its private, and quite difficult to get into; so its sort of surprising how so many AA have no problem getting in, playing ball and maintaining a decent GPA.
Title: Re: Is Duke's Decade Of Dominance over?
Post by: chum1 on March 27, 2007, 03:37:04 PM
What's your problem chum?  You pretty much act like an a$$hole all the time, don't you?

Can you do a rant on me?  You know, like the ones you do on Clifton, Coach K, and Nancy Zimpher.
Title: Re: Is Duke's Decade Of Dominance over?
Post by: chum1 on March 27, 2007, 03:38:17 PM
lore

Good point about the lore.  I forgot all about the lore.
Title: Re: Is Duke's Decade Of Dominance over?
Post by: pissclams on March 27, 2007, 03:42:43 PM
That was my best "Mac"
Title: Re: Is Duke's Decade Of Dominance over?
Post by: PurplePowerhouse on March 27, 2007, 06:43:07 PM
I think they're pretty screwed - at least for a little while.

http://www.bleacherreport.com/college/ncaa%11fb%11editorspicks/how-duke-basketball-lost-its-mojo-200703191094/ (http://www.bleacherreport.com/college/ncaa%11fb%11editorspicks/how-duke-basketball-lost-its-mojo-200703191094/)

Fine with me.  I f'n hate Duke, along with UNC, ku, etc.  I have no real reason for this, other than they remind me of ND in football.  At least the Dukies don't have their own exclusive network deal though.
Title: Re: Is Duke's Decade Of Dominance over?
Post by: kcnut on March 28, 2007, 03:25:50 AM
thank god their coach is a flameing homo he so gay the gay people say damn fag boy get out of our club. :twobirds:
Title: Re: Is Duke's Decade Of Dominance over?
Post by: Hugginsfan on March 28, 2007, 10:17:01 AM
This is always good for a few laughs

http://www.truthaboutduke.com/


Title: Re: Is Duke's Decade Of Dominance over?
Post by: snart on March 28, 2007, 10:29:39 AM
Ahhh.  I found it.  I thought that I had lost this precious picture:

(http://netfoo.net/~dunderwood/YeahBaby.jpg)