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Title: Our chances of bowling in 2007 are about 99.9%
Post by: ksuno1stunner on March 26, 2007, 07:31:54 PM
We've got three patsies and a game vs. Auburn, who will be rusty.  We've got Baylor at home, sure win.  We've got ISU on the road, sure win.  We've got CU at home, sure win.  MU at home could easily be a win.  ku at home is winnable.  At UT, OSU, and NU are far from impossible.

I don't see a game on our schedule that is a sure loss, and 6 sure wins.

If we don't go bowlin', this would be the biggest flop in the history of KSU football.  So leave yourself some vacation to go watch us play in a bowl.
Title: Re: Our chances of bowling in 2007 are about 99.9%
Post by: ds43fan on March 26, 2007, 07:37:12 PM
i agree, excpet Auburn and Texas are 10 % winnable
Title: Re: Our chances of bowling in 2007 are about 99.9%
Post by: GoldbrickGangBoss on March 26, 2007, 07:40:20 PM
Nuh uh.
Title: Re: Our chances of bowling in 2007 are about 99.9%
Post by: hemmy on March 26, 2007, 08:00:17 PM
Please provide work for those calculations.
Title: Re: Our chances of bowling in 2007 are about 99.9%
Post by: ds43fan on March 26, 2007, 08:11:06 PM
Sept. 1 at Auburn (ESPN) Auburn, Ala. .1
Sept. 8 San Jose State Manhattan, Kan. .9
Sept. 15 Missouri State Manhattan, Kan. .95
Sept. 29 at Texas Austin, Texas .1
Oct. 6 Kansas Manhattan, Kan. .75
Oct. 13 Colorado Manhattan, Kan. .9
Oct. 20 at Oklahoma State Stillwater, Okla. .65
Oct. 27 Baylor Manhattan, Kan. .85
Nov. 3 at Iowa State Ames, Iowa .6
Nov. 10 at Nebraska Lincoln, Neb. .45
Nov. 17 Missouri Manhattan, Kan. .65
Nov. 24 at Fresno State (ESPN) Fresno, Calif. .85
8.5 so an 8 or 9 win season sounds about right :billypopcorn:
Title: Re: Our chances of bowling in 2007 are about 99.9%
Post by: waks on March 26, 2007, 09:55:47 PM
We are more likely to lose to OSU than to beat them.
Title: Re: Our chances of bowling in 2007 are about 99.9%
Post by: AzCat on March 26, 2007, 10:10:55 PM
I see some of you have been hanging with the powertards again.  More like:

L Sept. 1 at Auburn (ESPN) Auburn, Ala.
W Sept. 8 San Jose State Manhattan, Kan.
W Sept. 15 Missouri State Manhattan, Kan.
L Sept. 29 at Texas Austin, Texas
W Oct. 6 Kansas Manhattan, Kan.
L Oct. 13 Colorado Manhattan, Kan.
L Oct. 20 at Oklahoma State Stillwater, Okla.
W Oct. 27 Baylor Manhattan, Kan.
W Nov. 3 at Iowa State Ames, Iowa
L Nov. 10 at Nebraska Lincoln, Neb.
L Nov. 17 Missouri Manhattan, Kan.
L Nov. 24 at Fresno State (ESPN) Fresno, Calif.

5-7 is probable, 6-6 if a miracle occurs.
Title: Re: Our chances of bowling in 2007 are about 99.9%
Post by: Pittcat on March 26, 2007, 10:13:59 PM
Sept. 1 at Auburn (ESPN) Auburn, Ala. .1
Sept. 8 San Jose State Manhattan, Kan. .9
Sept. 15 Missouri State Manhattan, Kan. .95
Sept. 29 at Texas Austin, Texas .1
Oct. 6 Kansas Manhattan, Kan. .75
Oct. 13 Colorado Manhattan, Kan. .9
Oct. 20 at Oklahoma State Stillwater, Okla. .65
Oct. 27 Baylor Manhattan, Kan. .85
Nov. 3 at Iowa State Ames, Iowa .6
Nov. 10 at Nebraska Lincoln, Neb. .45
Nov. 17 Missouri Manhattan, Kan. .65
Nov. 24 at Fresno State (ESPN) Fresno, Calif. .85
8.5 so an 8 or 9 win season sounds about right :billypopcorn:


Wow, My stats prof. would be proud.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Our chances of bowling in 2007 are about 99.9%
Post by: Pittcat on March 26, 2007, 10:16:29 PM
I see some of you have been hanging with the powertards again.  More like:

L Sept. 1 at Auburn (ESPN) Auburn, Ala.
W Sept. 8 San Jose State Manhattan, Kan.
W Sept. 15 Missouri State Manhattan, Kan.
L Sept. 29 at Texas Austin, Texas
W Oct. 6 Kansas Manhattan, Kan.
L Oct. 13 Colorado Manhattan, Kan.
L Oct. 20 at Oklahoma State Stillwater, Okla.
W Oct. 27 Baylor Manhattan, Kan.
W Nov. 3 at Iowa State Ames, Iowa
L Nov. 10 at Nebraska Lincoln, Neb.
L Nov. 17 Missouri Manhattan, Kan.
L Nov. 24 at Fresno State (ESPN) Fresno, Calif.

5-7 is probable, 6-6 if a miracle occurs.

Wow, you have absolutely no faith. 
Title: Re: Our chances of bowling in 2007 are about 99.9%
Post by: Pittcat on March 26, 2007, 10:19:13 PM
Just realized I like the word "wow."   :banghead:
Title: Re: Our chances of bowling in 2007 are about 99.9%
Post by: Houstoncat93 on March 26, 2007, 10:45:48 PM

If we don't go bowlin', this would be the biggest flop in the history of KSU football.  So leave yourself some vacation to go watch us play in a bowl.

That is quite a statement considering our past....
Title: Re: Our chances of bowling in 2007 are about 99.9%
Post by: AzCat on March 26, 2007, 10:57:11 PM
I see some of you have been hanging with the powertards again.  More like:

L Sept. 1 at Auburn (ESPN) Auburn, Ala.
W Sept. 8 San Jose State Manhattan, Kan.
W Sept. 15 Missouri State Manhattan, Kan.
L Sept. 29 at Texas Austin, Texas
W Oct. 6 Kansas Manhattan, Kan.
L Oct. 13 Colorado Manhattan, Kan.
L Oct. 20 at Oklahoma State Stillwater, Okla.
W Oct. 27 Baylor Manhattan, Kan.
W Nov. 3 at Iowa State Ames, Iowa
L Nov. 10 at Nebraska Lincoln, Neb.
L Nov. 17 Missouri Manhattan, Kan.
L Nov. 24 at Fresno State (ESPN) Fresno, Calif.

5-7 is probable, 6-6 if a miracle occurs.

Wow, you have absolutely no faith. 

I have a great deal of faith ... that we'll win 5 games (+/- 1) next season.
Title: Re: Our chances of bowling in 2007 are about 99.9%
Post by: Dirty Sanchez on March 26, 2007, 11:01:05 PM

If we don't go bowlin', this would be the biggest flop in the history of KSU football.  So leave yourself some vacation to go watch us play in a bowl.

That is quite a statement considering our past....

Not really.  The first 100 years weren't a flop.  I think you have to be up at some point to flop.
Title: Re: Our chances of bowling in 2007 are about 99.9%
Post by: Pittcat on March 26, 2007, 11:07:15 PM
I see some of you have been hanging with the powertards again.  More like:

L Sept. 1 at Auburn (ESPN) Auburn, Ala.
W Sept. 8 San Jose State Manhattan, Kan.
W Sept. 15 Missouri State Manhattan, Kan.
L Sept. 29 at Texas Austin, Texas
W Oct. 6 Kansas Manhattan, Kan.
L Oct. 13 Colorado Manhattan, Kan.
L Oct. 20 at Oklahoma State Stillwater, Okla.
W Oct. 27 Baylor Manhattan, Kan.
W Nov. 3 at Iowa State Ames, Iowa
L Nov. 10 at Nebraska Lincoln, Neb.
L Nov. 17 Missouri Manhattan, Kan.
L Nov. 24 at Fresno State (ESPN) Fresno, Calif.

5-7 is probable, 6-6 if a miracle occurs.

Wow, you have absolutely no faith. 

I have a great deal of faith ... that we'll win 5 games (+/- 1) next season.

Doom and gloom, doom and gloom.   :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Our chances of bowling in 2007 are about 99.9%
Post by: Houstoncat93 on March 26, 2007, 11:13:24 PM

If we don't go bowlin', this would be the biggest flop in the history of KSU football.  So leave yourself some vacation to go watch us play in a bowl.

That is quite a statement considering our past....

Not really.  The first 100 years weren't a flop.  I think you have to be up at some point to flop.
                   PF    PA
1905  6-2-0  149   52    Mike Ahearn
1906  5-2-0  103   37    Mike Ahearn
1907  5-3-0  135   56    Mike Ahearn
1908  6-2-0  182   74    Mike Ahearn
1909  7-2-0  320   11    Mike Ahearn
1910  10-1-0 336   23    Mike Ahearn

We had a nice little run during the "ought" years with Coach Ahearn......after that it was all flop.
Title: Re: Our chances of bowling in 2007 are about 99.9%
Post by: Houstoncat93 on March 26, 2007, 11:17:54 PM
I see some of you have been hanging with the powertards again.  More like:

L Sept. 1 at Auburn (ESPN) Auburn, Ala.
W Sept. 8 San Jose State Manhattan, Kan.
W Sept. 15 Missouri State Manhattan, Kan.
L Sept. 29 at Texas Austin, Texas
W Oct. 6 Kansas Manhattan, Kan.
L Oct. 13 Colorado Manhattan, Kan.
L Oct. 20 at Oklahoma State Stillwater, Okla.
W Oct. 27 Baylor Manhattan, Kan.
W Nov. 3 at Iowa State Ames, Iowa
L Nov. 10 at Nebraska Lincoln, Neb.
L Nov. 17 Missouri Manhattan, Kan.
L Nov. 24 at Fresno State (ESPN) Fresno, Calif.

5-7 is probable, 6-6 if a miracle occurs.

Wow, you have absolutely no faith. 

I have a great deal of faith ... that we'll win 5 games (+/- 1) next season.

Doom and gloom, doom and gloom.   :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

You are right...Az is way too pessimistic.  My more optimistic view is we win at least 6 games....maybe 7 if we find a shock the world type game ala Texas last year.
Title: Re: Our chances of bowling in 2007 are about 99.9%
Post by: Huskerfan on March 26, 2007, 11:22:24 PM
Your games with Nebraska, Texas, and Auburn are almost certain losses, you're playing better teams on the road.

Oklahoma State and Fresno State are probable losses, especially since they're on the road.
Missouri is a probable loss, they're just a better team.
Kansas and Iowa State are tossups.

So three certain losses, three more probable ones, and two tossups. Assuming you loss the games you should, and win one of the tossups, that puts you at 5-7. I actually think Freeman's talent might help you to win a game or two you shouldn't, so you might up doing as well at 7-5. That would make you bowl eligible.

The good news is that while you have some tough road games this year, assuming those are home and away series, you'll at least have those opponents in Manhattan for the '08 season.

Title: Re: Our chances of bowling in 2007 are about 99.9%
Post by: Pittcat on March 26, 2007, 11:27:02 PM
Maybe I'm a little too optimistic, but I think 8-4 or 9-3 is do-able.  Oh the power of talented QB & RB's + the will of a bunch of potentially underrated players out to prove people wrong = good season.  Not great, but good.  I've said it before:  We've done more with less in the past.


 :ohno: Oh no, we don't have a team full of 5 stars!!! Our season is ruined!
Title: Re: Our chances of bowling in 2007 are about 99.9%
Post by: Pittcat on March 26, 2007, 11:38:06 PM
So, assuming we lose to Auburn and Fresno State, should we revert back to the Snyder ways and schedule four gimme's.  I don't think so-A tough loss in a well played game against a high caliber team with national exposure, ie Auburn, is still better than an "oops" loss to Massachusetts School for the Blind.  Still, 8-4 or 9-3 is possible.
Title: Re: Our chances of bowling in 2007 are about 99.9%
Post by: WildCatzPhreak on March 26, 2007, 11:44:52 PM
We lose: (25%)Nebraska, (10%)Texas, (10%)Auburn
We win: (75%)Baylor, (90%)Missouri State, (75%)Colorado, (70%)Iowa State, (95%)San Jose State, (70%)Fresno State
Toss ups: (55%)Missouri, (60%)Kansas, (40%) Oklahoma State

I'm thinking 7 wins average, 6 wins minimum, 8 wins max.  Anything above 8, tear up Prince's contract and give him a better one.
Title: Re: Our chances of bowling in 2007 are about 99.9%
Post by: WildCatzPhreak on March 26, 2007, 11:46:22 PM
I don't get the "assuming we lose to Fresno" talk.

They beat us in 2004, when we won four games total and had a horrible team.

Fresno was bad last year.  No bowl game, and in a pathetic conference.  I don't see why that's pinned as a loss, even on the road.
Title: Re: Our chances of bowling in 2007 are about 99.9%
Post by: Pittcat on March 27, 2007, 12:01:48 AM
I don't get the "assuming we lose to Fresno" talk.

They beat us in 2004, when we won four games total and had a horrible team.

Fresno was bad last year.  No bowl game, and in a pathetic conference.  I don't see why that's pinned as a loss, even on the road.

That was completely hypothetical, mainly directed at bandwagon NU/Creighton and various local doom and gloomers.  I think we'll beat Fresno State.  I think we'll do better than alot of people on here think we will.
Title: Re: Our chances of bowling in 2007 are about 99.9%
Post by: Dan Rydell on March 27, 2007, 12:29:18 AM
Sept. 1 at Auburn (ESPN) Auburn, Ala. .1               Yeah, right.
Sept. 8 San Jose State Manhattan, Kan. .9            They're no Illinois State.
Sept. 15 Missouri State Manhattan, Kan. .95          Woot.
Sept. 29 at Texas Austin, Texas .1                       Hahahahahahahahaha!
Oct. 6 Kansas Manhattan, Kan. .6                         .1 for home field.  They'd be favored in Lawrence.
Oct. 13 Colorado Manhattan, Kan. .75                    I don't think Hawk turns it around quickly enough to win.
Oct. 20 at Oklahoma State Stillwater, Okla. .25       Gundys have that ship headed in the right direction.
Oct. 27 Baylor Manhattan, Kan. .85                       Ugh.
Nov. 3 at Iowa State Ames, Iowa .6                   
Nov. 10 at Nebraska Lincoln, Neb. .2                      Double the chance of winning at Auburn or Texas.  Ain't sayin' much.
Nov. 17 Missouri Manhattan, Kan. .5                      Late season slide time for Mizzou.  Hope it helps us.
Nov. 24 at Fresno State (ESPN) Fresno, Calif. .55    Yeah, going on the road to Fresno is TOTALLY easy!

Looks like about 6 wins.  Eyeballing it, that looks about right.
Title: Re: Our chances of bowling in 2007 are about 99.9%
Post by: waks on March 27, 2007, 12:41:50 AM
Sept. 1 at Auburn (ESPN) Auburn, Ala. L
Sept. 8 San Jose State Manhattan, Kan. W
Sept. 15 Missouri State Manhattan, Kan. W
Sept. 29 at Texas Austin, Texas L
Oct. 6 Kansas Manhattan, Kan. W
Oct. 13 Colorado Manhattan, Kan. W
Oct. 20 at Oklahoma State Stillwater, Okla. L
Oct. 27 Baylor Manhattan, Kan. W
Nov. 3 at Iowa State Ames, Iowa W
Nov. 10 at Nebraska Lincoln, Neb. L
Nov. 17 Missouri Manhattan, Kan. L
Nov. 24 at Fresno State (ESPN) Fresno, Calif. W

I can see us beating Mizzou or OSU and I can see us losing to anyone other than the two patsies. 7 or 8 wins sounds about right..
Title: Re: Our chances of bowling in 2007 are about 99.9%
Post by: Pittcat on March 27, 2007, 01:02:53 AM
Mark it on the calendar, this is the way it will be:


 Sept. 1 at Auburn (ESPN) Auburn, Ala.  Freeman has poor game, Campbell still adjusting to 3-4 L28-14
 Sept. 8 San Jose State Manhattan, Kan. Confidence booster for Soul Glo  W42-3
 Sept. 15 Missouri State Manhattan, Kan. Defense finds itself W45-0
 Sept. 29 at Texas Austin, Texas   Texas out for blood, KSU rallies in 2nd half but falls short L28-24
 Oct. 6 Kansas Manhattan, Kan.  Mangino dies on sidelines by choking on bologna sandwich, Patton burns birdies for 175 on ground.  W 31-13
 Oct. 13 Colorado Manhattan, Kan.  Freeman continues solid season, Buffs limp home W35-10
 Oct. 20 at Oklahoma State Stillwater, Okla.  Not a comeback this time, but close game W17-14
 Oct. 27 Baylor Manhattan, Kan.  Baylor's moving up but the team vet's want some redemption  W24-7
 Nov. 3 at Iowa State Ames, Iowa  The cats are on a roll but almost look past ISU, W17-14
 Nov. 10 at Nebraska Lincoln, Neb. Lucky back in hospital for no reason, defensive stops highlight of game for both sides L10-7
 Nov. 17 Missouri Manhattan, Kan.  All out battle, children avert your eyes, Cats pull ahead for good late in 4th W31-24
 Nov. 24 at Fresno State (ESPN) Fresno, Calif.  Cats role 'dogs with stellar all-around performance.  
W35-10

That's 9-3, Okie State and Missouri are swing games, but we will win atleast one of those two which would make it 8-4.  
Ladies and Gentleman THAT is our 2007 season.
Title: Re: Our chances of bowling in 2007 are about 99.9%
Post by: Snyderfanatic on March 27, 2007, 12:01:14 PM
At Auburn- 21 point loss in much the same fashion as the road losses in 2006, teams that do not have the desire or ability to play smashmouth football are not great road teams. 0-1

San Jose State- A very good team in 2006, not sure what they got this season. Dick Tomey will not be outcoached by Prince. KSU wins 27-20, 1-1

Missouri State- The Bears are a bad 1-AA team, easy win 51-3, 2-1

@ Texas- Payback for the Horns, could be a very ugly 2:30 game in Austin, Texas 47-13, 2-2 (o-1)

Kansas- Must win game to preserve a slight advantage over ku, probably the biggest game to date for Prince. a loss and he is on the hotseat, a win and he is o.k. KSU 20-10, 3-2 (1-1)

Colorado- The hunch is the Buffs will be the most improved team in the North. KSU lost a heartbreaker in 2005 to the Buffs, not gonna happen this time, Cats 31-20, 4-2 (2-1)

@ Oklahoma State- We were fortunate to win in Manhattan in 2006, this game will not be as bad as the Texas game, but yet another road loss in the South, OSU 34-17, 4-3 (2-2)

Baylor- Simply put, Baylor whipped KSU bad in Waco. Will not happen two years in a row, an easy 37- 10 win at Bill Snyder family Stadium for KSU. 5-3 (3-2)

@ Iowa State- The Clones have a good QB and WR, but always seem to be challenged on the defensive side. ISU can be a spoiler late in the season in Ames (MU last year, NU in 2002, KSU in 2005), not this time KSU 21-20, 6-3 (4-2)

@ Nebraska- This may be ugly, NU will be good, ready for Freeman and playing on Senior Day. NU rolls the Cats 40-13, Prince not feeling any love in his return to Nebraska. 6-4 (4-3)

Missouri- Last season the Tigers snapped a 13 game streak to KSU with total domination in Columbia. Mizzou has too many weapons for the Cats to pull off another home rally (Remember 2005), Tigers 38-27, 6-5 (4-4)   

@ Fresno State- The last time KSU visited the west coast in a regular season finale? 42-3 in Vegas. The Bulldogs slipped big time in 2006 and will not be bad two straight seasons. This will be a rugged environment against a really hard hitting and overly aggressive team. KSU loses 31-20, 6-6

Prediction: People will accept the .500 season if Freeman is improved and the Cats sneak into a minor bowl.
Title: Re: Our chances of bowling in 2007 are about 99.9%
Post by: Pittcat on March 27, 2007, 12:18:43 PM
No one expected us to do anything last season.  Well guess what: More talent, more experience, more motivation = better season. 
Title: Re: Our chances of bowling in 2007 are about 99.9%
Post by: Dan Rydell on March 27, 2007, 01:51:53 PM
No one expected us to do anything last season.  Well guess what: More talent, more experience, more motivation = better season. 

No one expected Colt McCoy to get injured in the first quarter of the KSU game, either.  It's amazing how one injury can drastically change the expectations for a team. 
Title: Re: Our chances of bowling in 2007 are about 99.9%
Post by: cireksu on March 27, 2007, 01:58:12 PM
we have 5 automatic losses on the sched.  @NU, @UA, @UT, Mizzou, and @OSU.  winning any of those games would be astronomically hard to do next year.
Title: Re: Our chances of bowling in 2007 are about 99.9%
Post by: fatty fat fat on March 27, 2007, 01:59:28 PM
No one expected us to do anything last season.  Well guess what: More talent, more experience, more motivation = better season. 

No one expected Colt McCoy to get injured in the first quarter of the KSU game, either.  It's amazing how one injury can drastically change the expectations for a team. 

Any team can play that game. We beat Texas fair n square.
Title: Re: Our chances of bowling in 2007 are about 99.9%
Post by: Dan Rydell on March 27, 2007, 02:06:49 PM
No one expected us to do anything last season.  Well guess what: More talent, more experience, more motivation = better season. 

No one expected Colt McCoy to get injured in the first quarter of the KSU game, either.  It's amazing how one injury can drastically change the expectations for a team. 

Any team can play that game. We beat Texas fair n square.

And that's why we shouldn't forget that we lost to Baylor and were pasted by ku and Mizzou last year while we're setting our expectations for next year. 
Title: Re: Our chances of bowling in 2007 are about 99.9%
Post by: fatty fat fat on March 27, 2007, 02:16:42 PM
I couldn't agree more. This is what I was trying to pound into hatter who was simply writing off the ku game because of Figurs.

Have you seen our WR depth THIS year? It's hilariously bad.
Title: Re: Our chances of bowling in 2007 are about 99.9%
Post by: chum1 on March 27, 2007, 02:25:44 PM
I love LaMark Brown?
Title: Re: Our chances of bowling in 2007 are about 99.9%
Post by: Pittcat on March 27, 2007, 02:29:01 PM
No one expected us to do anything last season.  Well guess what: More talent, more experience, more motivation = better season. 

No one expected Colt McCoy to get injured in the first quarter of the KSU game, either.  It's amazing how one injury can drastically change the expectations for a team. 




Any team can play that game. We beat Texas fair n square.

And that's why we shouldn't forget that we lost to Baylor and were pasted by ku and Mizzou last year while we're setting our expectations for next year. 


If teams only won the games they "should" the whole idea of sports would be pointless.  Any team can win/lose on any given day.  It's why the games are played.  Who's to say Auburn's entire starting defense won't come down with an extreme case of gonnasyphaherpelitis a day before the game?   Who's to say that we won't be plagued by injuries before the season even starts?  For that matter, what if we surprise even ourselves and go undefeated?  These things are all unlikely to happen, but that's why college football is so amazing.  Things happen, and nationwide the season never turns out the way it "should."


 :ksu: Keep the faith cats!
Title: Re: Our chances of bowling in 2007 are about 99.9%
Post by: fatty fat fat on March 27, 2007, 02:36:39 PM
No one expected us to do anything last season.  Well guess what: More talent, more experience, more motivation = better season. 

No one expected Colt McCoy to get injured in the first quarter of the KSU game, either.  It's amazing how one injury can drastically change the expectations for a team. 




Any team can play that game. We beat Texas fair n square.

And that's why we shouldn't forget that we lost to Baylor and were pasted by ku and Mizzou last year while we're setting our expectations for next year. 


If teams only won the games they "should" the whole idea of sports would be pointless.  Any team can win/lose on any given day.  It's why the games are played.  Who's to say Auburn's entire starting defense won't come down with an extreme case of gonnasyphaherpelitis a day before the game?   Who's to say that we won't be plagued by injuries before the season even starts?  For that matter, what if we surprise even ourselves and go undefeated?  These things are all unlikely to happen, but that's why college football is so amazing.  Things happen, and nationwide the season never turns out the way it "should."


 :ksu: Keep the faith cats!

True, but over the course of a season that averages out and for the most part, the better teams win more games than the worsier (sp?/word??) teams.

Title: Re: Our chances of bowling in 2007 are about 99.9%
Post by: WildCatzPhreak on March 27, 2007, 02:37:58 PM
I couldn't agree more. This is what I was trying to pound into hatter who was simply writing off the ku game because of Figurs.

Have you seen our WR depth THIS year? It's hilariously bad.
Really?  I was under the impression we had some really good receivers coming in.  What do we have, 3 juco receiver transfers?

I was thinking our 3 starting receivers would look something like this:

Jordy Nelson
Ernie Pierce (He's the burner JUCO transfer, right?  Runs a 4.3?)
Lamark Brown

Then we've got the other 2 juco transfers, and all of the other young guys that played last year.

Our offense should be a lot better than it was last year.  Leon Patton and JJ back.  O-line should be better with the younger guys bulking up more and the addition of the jucos.

I'm more worried about our defense.  A possible linebacker heavy defense with virtually no linebacker depth.  Our D-line is a big question mark.  Could be good, could be bad.  Rob Jackson is pretty good, but nose tackle and the other d end are question marks.

Not too worried about the backfield.  Watts, Chandler for safeties.  Our corners weren't too bad last year.  I like that freshman kid from Florida, although I can't remember his name.
Title: Re: Our chances of bowling in 2007 are about 99.9%
Post by: fatty fat fat on March 27, 2007, 02:40:29 PM
All I know is our offense was incredibly retarded w/o healthy/deep receivers.


**See last two games of the year (1 offensive TD...on the ground)


If you depend on newcomers, you're probably screwed, unless you are bringing in a bunch of blue-chips***

**See, at least I'm consistent***

***Basketball...we have newcomers sure...but they are blue-chippers so no worries.
Title: Re: Our chances of bowling in 2007 are about 99.9%
Post by: WildCatzPhreak on March 27, 2007, 02:49:02 PM
All I know is our offense was incredibly retarded w/o healthy/deep receivers.


**See last two games of the year (1 offensive TD...on the ground)


If you depend on newcomers, you're probably screwed, unless you are bringing in a bunch of blue-chips***

**See, at least I'm consistent***

***Basketball...we have newcomers sure...but they are blue-chippers so no worries.
Does Lamark count as blue chip?  He's on the top 150, but only four stars.

And what about jucos?  Do they count as newcomers?
Title: Re: Our chances of bowling in 2007 are about 99.9%
Post by: Pittcat on March 27, 2007, 02:49:19 PM
Maybe I've been corrupted PR propaganda, but I hope you guys are wrong.  Still, 8 wins is do-able.
Title: Re: Our chances of bowling in 2007 are about 99.9%
Post by: Dan Rydell on March 27, 2007, 02:51:40 PM
Maybe I've been corrupted PR propaganda, but I hope you guys are wrong.  Still, 8 wins is do-able.

I hope I'm wrong, too.  I'd love to not have to head up the Ron Must Go Committee.
Title: Re: Our chances of bowling in 2007 are about 99.9%
Post by: Pittcat on March 27, 2007, 02:52:18 PM
All I know is our offense was incredibly retarded w/o healthy/deep receivers.


**See last two games of the year (1 offensive TD...on the ground)


If you depend on newcomers, you're probably screwed, unless you are bringing in a bunch of blue-chips***

**See, at least I'm consistent***

***Basketball...we have newcomers sure...but they are blue-chippers so no worries.


If our newcomers prove worthy after the first couple games, (I'm not saying a win over Auburn), but prove they can play, will you change your tune?
Title: Re: Our chances of bowling in 2007 are about 99.9%
Post by: Pittcat on March 27, 2007, 02:57:58 PM
I'm not a KSU student, and I live four hours away, so I won't be able to get to the open practice this spring.  Surely we have plenty of guys on here that will give some unbiased reports, don't we?  relying on newspapers/kstate propaganda sucks.  Pray for a solid spring session.
Title: Re: Our chances of bowling in 2007 are about 99.9%
Post by: WildCatzPhreak on March 27, 2007, 03:02:34 PM
Didn't we rely on newcomers a lot last season, and get 7 wins when we were supposed to get 1-2?

Freeman
Leon Patton
James Johnson
Nick Stringer
Rob Jackson
J Mastrud
(2 cornerbacks, can't remember either of their names  :-X )
Title: Re: Our chances of bowling in 2007 are about 99.9%
Post by: fatty fat fat on March 27, 2007, 03:04:49 PM
Fine, then predict 7 wins again. Nothing wrong with that.
Title: Re: Our chances of bowling in 2007 are about 99.9%
Post by: Pittcat on March 27, 2007, 03:09:37 PM
Didn't we rely on newcomers a lot last season, and get 7 wins when we were supposed to get 1-2?

Freeman
Leon Patton
James Johnson
Nick Stringer
Rob Jackson
J Mastrud
(2 cornerbacks, can't remember either of their names  :-X )


Thankyou!!!
Title: Re: Our chances of bowling in 2007 are about 99.9%
Post by: WildCatzPhreak on March 27, 2007, 03:41:09 PM
Fine, then predict 7 wins again. Nothing wrong with that.

I'm thinking 7 wins average, 6 wins minimum, 8 wins max.  Anything above 8, tear up Prince's contract and give him a better one.
Already did.  ;)
Title: Re: Our chances of bowling in 2007 are about 99.9%
Post by: tmramrod91 on March 27, 2007, 04:06:48 PM
I'm thinking the newcomers will have a huge impact (either good or bad) on the season.  Our secondary will be by far our best unit, top 3 in the conference IMO. Special Teams will have to be special again this year to have success.
WR-we have Jordy and thats about it. And even then, he's coming off an injury plagued season. No proven deep threats, JUCO guys/Brown must step up or else Freeman will look very Brian Kavanaugheske
QB-gotta have someone to throw to
RB-very talented, lack of FB might hurt (even tho the FB has been pretty much elimanted from the playbook)
LB-uh oh
DL-little scary, jackson will be solid, but no proven NT...big problems for the 3-4
OL-might be a very pleasant surprise in year 2 with so many returning people, and lots of JUCO help, still unproven IMO

I think the backfield/qb and secondary talent will be enough to get to 6 wins. Anything more than that will be squarely on the shoulders of the newcomers at DL, LB, and OL.

I'm goin with 7 wins, and everyone will be ecstatic about bball.
Title: Re: Our chances of bowling in 2007 are about 99.9%
Post by: ds43fan on March 27, 2007, 05:11:10 PM
my prediction was made based on that prince should improve from year one to year 2
Title: Re: Our chances of bowling in 2007 are about 99.9%
Post by: Powercat Matt on March 27, 2007, 07:19:04 PM
Playing at Fresno kind of scares me, but i like our chances since it's later on in the season and if we play like we should, it'll be a W.  Missouri will be a win, i have no doubt...they're really only a threat at Faurot Field.  Auburn will be a loss, but with it being the first game of the year and at Jordan-Hare, i'm not going to put much stock into it if we lose handily...but heck if we at least make it close i'll be satisfied, and if we win i'll be extremely happy  :woohoo: same goes for the Texas game.

Bottom line, if we go 8-4 or 9-3 regular season i'll be satisfied...anything above that would be awesome, but i'm not getting my hopes up.  2008 is the year i've got circled...Freeman a seasoned junior along with a good experienced team, with both Oklahoma and Nebraska at home...i'm feeling good vibes about that season! but in the meantime i'll be okay with some moderate progress this season and hopefully a better bowl game.  :ksu:
Title: Re: Our chances of bowling in 2007 are about 99.9%
Post by: ksuno1stunner on March 27, 2007, 08:49:45 PM
Playing at Fresno kind of scares me, but i like our chances since it's later on in the season and if we play like we should, it'll be a W.  Missouri will be a win, i have no doubt...they're really only a threat at Faurot Field.  Auburn will be a loss, but with it being the first game of the year and at Jordan-Hare, i'm not going to put much stock into it if we lose handily...but heck if we at least make it close i'll be satisfied, and if we win i'll be extremely happy  :woohoo: same goes for the Texas game.

Bottom line, if we go 8-4 or 9-3 regular season i'll be satisfied...anything above that would be awesome, but i'm not getting my hopes up.  2008 is the year i've got circled...Freeman a seasoned junior along with a good experienced team, with both Oklahoma and Nebraska at home...i'm feeling good vibes about that season! but in the meantime i'll be okay with some moderate progress this season and hopefully a better bowl game.  :ksu:


Do you still like Nebraska?  Lame.
Title: Re: Our chances of bowling in 2007 are about 99.9%
Post by: jmlynch1 on March 27, 2007, 09:51:53 PM
Playing at Fresno kind of scares me, but i like our chances since it's later on in the season and if we play like we should, it'll be a W.  Missouri will be a win, i have no doubt...they're really only a threat at Faurot Field.  Auburn will be a loss, but with it being the first game of the year and at Jordan-Hare, i'm not going to put much stock into it if we lose handily...but heck if we at least make it close i'll be satisfied, and if we win i'll be extremely happy  :woohoo: same goes for the Texas game.

Bottom line, if we go 8-4 or 9-3 regular season i'll be satisfied...anything above that would be awesome, but i'm not getting my hopes up.  2008 is the year i've got circled...Freeman a seasoned junior along with a good experienced team, with both Oklahoma and Nebraska at home...i'm feeling good vibes about that season! but in the meantime i'll be okay with some moderate progress this season and hopefully a better bowl game.  :ksu:


Do you still like Nebraska?  Lame.
Stunner, PM me powercat Matt's name if he went to MHS
Title: Re: Our chances of bowling in 2007 are about 99.9%
Post by: fatty fat fat on March 27, 2007, 09:57:33 PM
why would one choose to go to UNL?
Title: Re: Our chances of bowling in 2007 are about 99.9%
Post by: Powercat Matt on March 27, 2007, 10:41:38 PM
why would one choose to go to UNL?

Scholarship $$ and internship opportunities relevant to what i want to go into pretty much sum it up.  Otherwise i'd be at k-state now. i'm planning on going to k-state for grad school once i'm done.
Title: Re: Our chances of bowling in 2007 are about 99.9%
Post by: jmlynch1 on March 28, 2007, 12:26:32 AM
UMASS :lol: :tongue: :lol:
Title: Re: Our chances of bowling in 2007 are about 99.9%
Post by: Powercat Matt on March 28, 2007, 12:32:44 AM
UMASS :lol: :tongue: :lol:

haha man that one hurts! at least they won their first posteason game in like 10 years, so i guess they're heading in the right direction...definitely not anywhere near the magnitude of k-state hoops though!