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Re: Rob Spoke To JL
« Reply #125 on: January 11, 2011, 05:19:50 PM »
Firing Cosh/Mo, hiring Leavitt, keeping Sean away from on-field coaching :dunno:

when did he do any of those things?  When did anyone but Fitz suggest that he might?  :dunno:

There was smoke from people other than Fitz. Did I maybe get false hopes up? Sure. But I'd prefer to have hope that a cacty situation is going to get better rather than have another depressing 3-5 years (or more) of mediocre to cac football. Cosh coming back, Sean getting on the field to coach, and Snyder going back to "old-timey" recruiting (read: this will get even WORSE than WRSOAT) are our worst fears being realized. This is the worst case scenario, and that's worth melting down about. You might well put us in the middle of the pack in the Sun Belt. If Bill is too myopic to realize this, he's no longer competent enough to lead the KSU football program.

So let me have my meltdown, goddammit. It's a BBSing right. eff you for trying to take away my rights, michigancat.
I'm with you 42.  I'm just lost right now.

I'm just really surprised that a great many KSU fans think that this is nothing to be concerned about. 

I mean, yeah, I know that by and large we're a pretty stupid bunch, but I didn't think we were that dumb.

I think it's more amazing that it's taken so many people this effing long to melt down about it.  I've been melting down pretty hard since Cosh got hired the second time 2 years ago.  Because hiring Cosh was just as Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) then as keeping him is now.

You apparently weren't on GPC at that time.  I was a pariah for what I said regarding Snyder coming back, specifically around Cosh.

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Re: Rob Spoke To JL
« Reply #126 on: January 11, 2011, 05:21:50 PM »
Firing Cosh/Mo, hiring Leavitt, keeping Sean away from on-field coaching :dunno:

when did he do any of those things?  When did anyone but Fitz suggest that he might?  :dunno:

There was smoke from people other than Fitz. Did I maybe get false hopes up? Sure. But I'd prefer to have hope that a cacty situation is going to get better rather than have another depressing 3-5 years (or more) of mediocre to cac football. Cosh coming back, Sean getting on the field to coach, and Snyder going back to "old-timey" recruiting (read: this will get even WORSE than WRSOAT) are our worst fears being realized. This is the worst case scenario, and that's worth melting down about. You might well put us in the middle of the pack in the Sun Belt. If Bill is too myopic to realize this, he's no longer competent enough to lead the KSU football program.

So let me have my meltdown, goddammit. It's a BBSing right. eff you for trying to take away my rights, michigancat.
I'm with you 42.  I'm just lost right now.

I'm just really surprised that a great many KSU fans think that this is nothing to be concerned about. 

I mean, yeah, I know that by and large we're a pretty stupid bunch, but I didn't think we were that dumb.

I think it's more amazing that it's taken so many people this effing long to melt down about it.  I've been melting down pretty hard since Cosh got hired the second time 2 years ago.  Because hiring Cosh was just as Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) then as keeping him is now.

You apparently weren't on GPC at that time.  I was a pariah for what I said regarding Snyder coming back, specifically around Cosh.

I was only on GPC for a month during the Huggins coaching search.  (I clowned the crap out of wichitacat back then.  He sucks.)

I really don't consider their opinions, like at all.

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Re: Rob Spoke To JL
« Reply #127 on: January 11, 2011, 05:25:50 PM »
Firing Cosh/Mo, hiring Leavitt, keeping Sean away from on-field coaching :dunno:

when did he do any of those things?  When did anyone but Fitz suggest that he might?  :dunno:

There was smoke from people other than Fitz. Did I maybe get false hopes up? Sure. But I'd prefer to have hope that a cacty situation is going to get better rather than have another depressing 3-5 years (or more) of mediocre to cac football. Cosh coming back, Sean getting on the field to coach, and Snyder going back to "old-timey" recruiting (read: this will get even WORSE than WRSOAT) are our worst fears being realized. This is the worst case scenario, and that's worth melting down about. You might well put us in the middle of the pack in the Sun Belt. If Bill is too myopic to realize this, he's no longer competent enough to lead the KSU football program.

So let me have my meltdown, goddammit. It's a BBSing right. eff you for trying to take away my rights, michigancat.
I'm with you 42.  I'm just lost right now.

I'm just really surprised that a great many KSU fans think that this is nothing to be concerned about. 

I mean, yeah, I know that by and large we're a pretty stupid bunch, but I didn't think we were that dumb.

I think it's more amazing that it's taken so many people this effing long to melt down about it.  I've been melting down pretty hard since Cosh got hired the second time 2 years ago.  Because hiring Cosh was just as Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) then as keeping him is now.

You apparently weren't on GPC at that time.  I was a pariah for what I said regarding Snyder coming back, specifically around Cosh.

I was only on GPC for a month during the Huggins coaching search.  (I clowned the cac out of wichitacat back then.  He sucks.)

I really don't consider their opinions, like at all.

Look at you, acting all badass and stuff.

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Re: Rob Spoke To JL
« Reply #128 on: January 11, 2011, 06:20:05 PM »
IT'S LEAVITT!
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Re: Rob Spoke To JL
« Reply #129 on: January 11, 2011, 06:48:33 PM »
Firing Cosh/Mo, hiring Leavitt, keeping Sean away from on-field coaching :dunno:

when did he do any of those things?  When did anyone but Fitz suggest that he might?  :dunno:

There was smoke from people other than Fitz. Did I maybe get false hopes up? Sure. But I'd prefer to have hope that a cacty situation is going to get better rather than have another depressing 3-5 years (or more) of mediocre to cac football. Cosh coming back, Sean getting on the field to coach, and Snyder going back to "old-timey" recruiting (read: this will get even WORSE than WRSOAT) are our worst fears being realized. This is the worst case scenario, and that's worth melting down about. You might well put us in the middle of the pack in the Sun Belt. If Bill is too myopic to realize this, he's no longer competent enough to lead the KSU football program.

So let me have my meltdown, goddammit. It's a BBSing right. eff you for trying to take away my rights, michigancat.
I'm with you 42.  I'm just lost right now.

I'm just really surprised that a great many KSU fans think that this is nothing to be concerned about. 

I mean, yeah, I know that by and large we're a pretty stupid bunch, but I didn't think we were that dumb.

I think it's more amazing that it's taken so many people this effing long to melt down about it.  I've been melting down pretty hard since Cosh got hired the second time 2 years ago.  Because hiring Cosh was just as Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) then as keeping him is now.

You apparently weren't on GPC at that time.  I was a pariah for what I said regarding Snyder coming back, specifically around Cosh.

I was only on GPC for a month during the Huggins coaching search.  (I clowned the cac out of wichitacat back then.  He sucks.)

I really don't consider their opinions, like at all.

Look at you, acting all badass and stuff.

:gocho:

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Re: Rob Spoke To JL
« Reply #130 on: January 11, 2011, 06:53:42 PM »
I enjoy michcat's role as goEMAW's BBSing hipster. But goddammit, I will have my meltdowns.

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Re: Rob Spoke To JL
« Reply #131 on: January 11, 2011, 07:04:21 PM »
FITZ knows nothing.
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Re: Rob Spoke To JL
« Reply #132 on: January 11, 2011, 07:46:34 PM »
FITZ knows nothing.
We knew all along about JL getting hired, but were told to tell people that he likely isn't coming by people in the K-State athletic department.

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Re: Rob Spoke To JL
« Reply #135 on: January 11, 2011, 08:04:20 PM »
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"Things will be cleared up soon enough," Leavitt said when asked about the possibility of coaching at Kansas State.


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Re: Rob Spoke To JL
« Reply #137 on: January 11, 2011, 08:07:26 PM »
He'll have a whole roster full of vagcats to choke out when he gets here

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Re: Rob Spoke To JL
« Reply #138 on: January 11, 2011, 08:10:36 PM »
I hope jim beats every single defensive player (cept arthur) to death
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Re: Rob Spoke To JL
« Reply #139 on: January 11, 2011, 08:21:13 PM »
Other folks may have said this already (I'm too lazy to look it up), but I'm starting to feel like Leavitt is the perfect hire for Currie in one or two years.

The shirt tucks love him because he was "Snyder's Choice".  From an actual 'resume' perspective, it's a defensible hire.  The guy wins.  He goes to bowl games.  He built a program from nothing, literally, to being an annual contender in an AQ conference.  He was once on the radar for the Alabama job.  And there's always the fallback cop out which is, "Well, it was the best we were going to do at Kansas State with our budget."

Money will keep coming in, buildings will keep being built, and JC's resume will keep growing in the areas that matter for SEC schools: money and buildings.  They can hire whoever they want because they have the money to do so; he doesn't have to have a great eye for coaches.  He just needs to keep the money coming in to hire the best and retain the successful coaches.  He extended Frank Martin.  He extended Brad Hill.  He promoted an obvious HCIW at KSU.  He got a practice facility built.  He worked and got a stadium renovated.

Honestly, I'm almost certain if JL is hired, he'll be the HC.  I don't think Currie is going to care.  It will be such a massively popular hire right now that if he even gets this defense remotely average in the next two years, all Currie has to do is sit back and count the donations because shirt tucks will be shoveling it at him.

Brilliant move by Snyder.  One last big eff you.  He knows how it works here, and he knows Currie is upwardly mobile.  Don't rock the boat, and the money will come, and you can get the Hell out of here.

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Re: Rob Spoke To JL
« Reply #140 on: January 11, 2011, 08:27:48 PM »
read an piece where levitt was in the running for the Tennesse position before Kiffin took it. Interesting, Currie may have already veted Levitt
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Re: Rob Spoke To JL
« Reply #141 on: January 11, 2011, 08:34:35 PM »
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Re: Rob Spoke To JL
« Reply #142 on: January 11, 2011, 08:44:20 PM »
I refuse to get all  :emawkid: ... I am a KAZHUU QHATS fan and reasonable crap doesn't happen to us. For now I will be a hybrid of  :ohno: and  :popcorn: and  :pray:
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Re: Rob Spoke To JL
« Reply #143 on: January 11, 2011, 08:45:58 PM »
If we get leavitt as D-coordinator I will be  :excited: :ksu: :kstatriot:.

If not, complete meltdown.

No in between here folks.


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Re: Rob Spoke To JL
« Reply #144 on: January 11, 2011, 08:51:30 PM »
If he's somehow destined to become a HC here, let's do it and get it over with. OB won't get any better style points for an exit than he will now.

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Re: Rob Spoke To JL
« Reply #145 on: January 11, 2011, 08:52:26 PM »
If he's somehow destined to become a HC here, let's do it and get it over with. OB won't get any better style points for an exit than he will now.

If Leavitt comes, he's gone in one or two years...max.

He's going to take his victory lap.

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Re: Rob Spoke To JL
« Reply #146 on: January 11, 2011, 08:53:40 PM »
Someone named "Cooper3" is fighting the good fight on the scout site.  Have to believe its one of our own from his posts.

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Yeah, Snyder is a legend.  He made us relevant.  We won a big XII title.  We had a bunch of 11 win seasons.  I am very grateful for those years.  That being said, he has failed miserably the last 4 seasons he has coached.

A 4 year record of 22-25 with one bowl appearance would undoubtedly get anyone else fired, as evidenced by the Ron Prince firing. And before you say "well he's having to clean up Prince's mess now" let me remind you that his worst two seasons in that 4 year stretch came on the heels of a Big XII championship.  A championship he clearly was not able to capitalize on in regards to recruiting or sustained on field success.

Snyder was at his best when surrounded by young, ambitious coaches who could relate to players and had a knack for recruiting. He now surrounds himself with his old cronies, most of whom are proven failures as coaches and all of whom have no idea what to do on the recruiting trail.  I don't know if he is incapable or unwilling to surround himself with competent coaches but he has proven that he will not.  This, combined with the fact that Sean is now rumored to be moving from an administrative position to a coaching position, has caused to believe that he is no longer able to surround himself with a staff capable of winning at this level.  Therefore, he needs to resign.
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Re: Rob Spoke To JL
« Reply #147 on: January 11, 2011, 08:55:35 PM »
I'm firmly with Dlew and KSUTOMMY.  Lotta solid bbs'ing in this thread right here.  Panjandrum makes a good point too.  Honestly, if he wasn't coming to KSU why wouldn't he just come out and say it?  What could possibly be holding him back from saying "as of right now I have no plans to be at KSU next year" or "I've not been in contact with Coach Snyder so I'd like to squash those rumors right now."  Why would he be all "no comment" unless it was a done deal?

eff me...if this falls through I'm prolly gonna like right some angry letters to somebody...or something.   :nono:
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Re: Rob Spoke To JL
« Reply #148 on: January 11, 2011, 08:58:56 PM »
I hate that the apparent decision is we either get levitt or continue with no changes.    So if Jim chooses the 49'ers and goes with Harbaugh, we are mumped.  No bowl, no nothing. 

mumped.

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Re: Rob Spoke To JL
« Reply #149 on: January 11, 2011, 09:00:15 PM »
wake me up when something really happens.  :zzz: