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Re: There is no positive spin to this one.
« Reply #25 on: December 18, 2010, 05:43:56 PM »
The only positive part of this game is the tweeting that will be coming from our players very soon.

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Re: There is no positive spin to this one.
« Reply #26 on: December 18, 2010, 05:44:00 PM »
Meanwhile Dom Sutton relishing the Cats failures via twitter.


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Re: There is no positive spin to this one.
« Reply #27 on: December 18, 2010, 05:44:16 PM »
usually you have to play well on both ends to call it a "best game".  but that's just me.  and save the "ball wasn't going" bullsh*t.  our offense is awful, the "ball not going in" is just the result.  we make offense so difficult because we can't run.

what did we not do today, that we normally do on offense?

i'm explaining why the offense is bad, in general.  missing shots only makes it worse.

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Re: There is no positive spin to this one.
« Reply #28 on: December 18, 2010, 05:44:54 PM »
This was the perfect game for guys like Dom, but instead we traded Dom for a jack leg like Freddy Assprilla.


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Re: There is no positive spin to this one.
« Reply #29 on: December 18, 2010, 05:45:37 PM »
usually you have to play well on both ends to call it a "best game".  but that's just me.  and save the "ball wasn't going" bullsh*t.  our offense is awful, the "ball not going in" is just the result.  we make offense so difficult because we can't run.

what did we not do today, that we normally do on offense?

i'm explaining why the offense is bad, in general.  missing shots only makes it worse.

You sound like you are about to start bitching about free throw %.

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Re: There is no positive spin to this one.
« Reply #30 on: December 18, 2010, 05:46:12 PM »
usually you have to play well on both ends to call it a "best game".  but that's just me.  and save the "ball wasn't going" bullsh*t.  our offense is awful, the "ball not going in" is just the result.  we make offense so difficult because we can't run.

what did we not do today, that we normally do on offense?

i'm explaining why the offense is bad, in general.  missing shots only makes it worse.

:lol:

the offense hasn't been what it was, and when you play teams that actually have athletes too, this is what happens.  OR we could just bank on mcgruds or irving or sprads taking turns shooting out of their ass every game

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« Reply #31 on: December 18, 2010, 05:46:53 PM »
usually you have to play well on both ends to call it a "best game".  but that's just me.  and save the "ball wasn't going" bullsh*t.  our offense is awful, the "ball not going in" is just the result.  we make offense so difficult because we can't run.

what did we not do today, that we normally do on offense?

i'm explaining why the offense is bad, in general.  missing shots only makes it worse.

You sound like you are about to start bitching about free throw %.

i could give a shi*t about FT%, our FTA's are a problem, though.

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Re: There is no positive spin to this one.
« Reply #32 on: December 18, 2010, 05:47:36 PM »
Yes sir, no doubt we missed instant offense Dom in this game :rolleyes: beside the fact, the trade was for Nino not Freddy.

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Re: There is no positive spin to this one.
« Reply #33 on: December 18, 2010, 05:47:57 PM »
usually you have to play well on both ends to call it a "best game".  but that's just me.  and save the "ball wasn't going" bullsh*t.  our offense is awful, the "ball not going in" is just the result.  we make offense so difficult because we can't run.

what did we not do today, that we normally do on offense?

i'm explaining why the offense is bad, in general.  missing shots only makes it worse.

:lol:

the offense hasn't been what it was, and when you play teams that actually have athletes too, this is what happens.  OR we could just bank on mcgruds or irving or sprads taking turns shooting out of their ass every game

If you banked on McGruds, Irving, (probably not Sprads) shooting out of their ass every time they have as many wide open shots as they had tonight, then you would be right a lot more often than you are wrong.

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Re: There is no positive spin to this one.
« Reply #34 on: December 18, 2010, 05:49:27 PM »
usually you have to play well on both ends to call it a "best game".  but that's just me.  and save the "ball wasn't going" bullsh*t.  our offense is awful, the "ball not going in" is just the result.  we make offense so difficult because we can't run.

what did we not do today, that we normally do on offense?

i'm explaining why the offense is bad, in general.  missing shots only makes it worse.

You sound like you are about to start bitching about free throw %.

i could give a shi*t about FT%, our FTA's are a problem, though.

There were very few fouls called on either side today. Seems like more of a product of the refs than performance.

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Re: There is no positive spin to this one.
« Reply #35 on: December 18, 2010, 05:50:56 PM »
usually you have to play well on both ends to call it a "best game".  but that's just me.  and save the "ball wasn't going" bullsh*t.  our offense is awful, the "ball not going in" is just the result.  we make offense so difficult because we can't run.

what did we not do today, that we normally do on offense?

i'm explaining why the offense is bad, in general.  missing shots only makes it worse.

You sound like you are about to start bitching about free throw %.

i could give a shi*t about FT%, our FTA's are a problem, though.

There were very few fouls called on either side today. Seems like more of a product of the refs than performance.

FLA doesnt foul and they dont get fouled.
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Re: There is no positive spin to this one.
« Reply #36 on: December 18, 2010, 05:52:45 PM »
usually you have to play well on both ends to call it a "best game".  but that's just me.  and save the "ball wasn't going" bullsh*t.  our offense is awful, the "ball not going in" is just the result.  we make offense so difficult because we can't run.

what did we not do today, that we normally do on offense?

i'm explaining why the offense is bad, in general.  missing shots only makes it worse.

You sound like you are about to start bitching about free throw %.

i could give a shi*t about FT%, our FTA's are a problem, though.

There were very few fouls called on either side today. Seems like more of a product of the refs than performance.

FLA doesnt foul and they dont get fouled.

I'm not complaining. The game was called like a tournament game and like every game should be called. Big 12 games will be called much tighter, though.

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Re: There is no positive spin to this one.
« Reply #37 on: December 18, 2010, 05:53:22 PM »
It's still football season for another week and a half.

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Re: There is no positive spin to this one.
« Reply #38 on: December 18, 2010, 05:54:54 PM »
 Florida has more talent.

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Re: There is no positive spin to this one.
« Reply #39 on: December 18, 2010, 06:02:52 PM »
Florida has more talent.

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Re: There is no positive spin to this one.
« Reply #40 on: December 18, 2010, 06:11:29 PM »
Everyone played bad, but some distinguished themselves. Kelly, 1 point on 0-5 shooting, 2 rebounds; McGruder, 3 points on 1 for 7 shooting, 8 rebounds but 7 were offensive rebounds were more than likely missed the follow; and Ojeleye, 0-1 and supposed energy gave up the easy baskets that really got Florida on a role and I'm sick of him; and Nick Russell, just a bunch of zeroes and his usual cac defense (seriously, it's time to see what 95 has).

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Re: There is no positive spin to this one.
« Reply #41 on: December 18, 2010, 06:14:00 PM »
We are a fringe top 25 team.  :frown:

We are, at best, the 4th best team in the conference.   :cry:

The KITN has landed.   :bawl:

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Re: There is no positive spin to this one.
« Reply #42 on: December 18, 2010, 06:31:09 PM »
Florida would finish 6th or 7th in the big XII

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Re: There is no positive spin to this one.
« Reply #43 on: December 18, 2010, 06:36:08 PM »
weird.


yeah, there were disappointments (aside from the loss), but it was best game we've played this year, imo.

No.  I won't disagree that for maybe 10 minutes we played the best JYC/defensive basketball we've played all year, but I can't get over that after that for a good portion of the game we played the worst offensive basketball of the Martin/Huggins era.

I agree that for at least part of that we missed a lot of open shots and that is correctable.  One particular stretch we missed a point blank lay-up and then over the course of a few possessions we missed 3 great looks from 3.  Granted, mixed in were some dumb TOs, but you hit a couple of those shots and even with a bad stretch we probably still are up nearly 10 at half.

But this is where the most alarming part comes; we let bad offense and missed shots affect our defense to the point we eventually folded up like a tent.  We allowed FL to take complete control in the 2nd half and had no answer, eventually giving up wide open lay-ups in transition b/c we were playing with no effort.  I can deal with missing shots and subpar offense, but to allow that turn in the game b/c in many ways we caved is unacceptable and embarrassing.

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Re: There is no positive spin to this one.
« Reply #44 on: December 18, 2010, 06:42:40 PM »
so, anyways...

the d was fantastic in the 1st.  kinda broke apart midway through the 2nd when they started to beat kstate in transition and then to really spread the court and move the ball.

rebounding was just ok.  certainly lost some boards, but i mean, uf has good players inside.

offense missed a ton of open shots in the 1st.  but they were good shots.  in the 2nd, uf did more to impact kstate's horrible shooting.  kstate looked sped up, out of rhythm and out of position from the full court pressure.  and kinda lost against the zone.  still had some easy shots not fall, especially off oboards, but you have to credit uf for a lot of that.  they're long, and they played physical.  it bothered kstate.

some other things.  kelly forcing up poor shots against doubles.  inability to run, at all.  etc, etc.  it certainly wasn't a perfect game, but it wasn't that bad.  as i said before, the best kstate has played this year.  did a good job not turning the ball over against a high pressure d.  played long periods of really good d themselves.  had times where they ran decent offense (although hindered by uf taking away the inside).

you're just not going to beat anyone when you shoot 27%, certainly not a good team away from home.
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Re: There is no positive spin to this one.
« Reply #45 on: December 18, 2010, 06:45:17 PM »

offense missed a ton of open shots in the 1st.  but they were good shots.  in the 2nd, uf did more to impact kstate's horrible shooting.  kstate looked sped up, out of rhythm and out of position from the full court pressure.  and kinda lost against the zone.  still had some easy shots not fall, especially off oboards, but you have to credit uf for a lot of that.  they're long, and they played physical.  it bothered kstate.


This is where we disagree on the impact.  You just seem to be blowing this off, but to me this is a sign of the lack of leadership and attitude of this team.  I think its a problem and maybe a big problem.  I was hoping this stretch would be where we got better, and even a competitive loss would've been okay.  But we were a soft, uncompetitive team in the 2nd half.  Period.
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Re: There is no positive spin to this one.
« Reply #46 on: December 18, 2010, 06:46:21 PM »
to allow that turn in the game b/c in many ways we caved is unacceptable and embarrassing.

martin really hammered on this in his postgame too.


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Re: There is no positive spin to this one.
« Reply #47 on: December 18, 2010, 06:51:27 PM »
This loss makes me sad.
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Re: There is no positive spin to this one.
« Reply #48 on: December 18, 2010, 06:52:18 PM »
really could have used a good version of wally in this game.  JHR and Asprilla are soft and terrible.  the only player who appeared to even try to get the ball into the post in the second half was Spradling.  its like no one else even considers the post players a viable option.  kelly needs more touches and more minutes to be effective.  

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Re: There is no positive spin to this one.
« Reply #49 on: December 18, 2010, 06:53:13 PM »


 But we were a soft, uncompetitive team in the 2nd half.  Period.

Frank has never seemed to be able to coach HBBIQ to his players, or great offense.  He's made his mark coaching toughness, hard defense, and general JYC basketball.  This was completely absent, not a wiff of it and that's what's alarming.  Florida is not the most physical team we'll play and they bullied us in the 2nd half.