Author Topic: 2012 Recruiting Thread (Read 776977 times)

Boom Roasted · « **Reply #2475 on:** October 31, 2011, 12:57:01 PM »

Kentucky's newest commit, Willie Cauley, may take some time to make a big impact at the college level.

Even though the 6-foot-11, 210-pound center is ranked ESPN's No. 32 recruit in 2012, it is based largely on the Cauley's potential. He still needs to add weight and strength to his slim frame, and that could take some time. He also must improve his offensive skills and develop some moves in the post to fully live up to his potential.

When Cauley takes the floor at UK, expect his greatest skill to initially be blocking shots. He has that long, lean Jelani McCoy type of frame that will make him an immediate defensive force. But to become a factor on offense and to improve as a rebounder in the rugged SEC, Cauley will first have to put in some work in the weight room and on the practice floor.

John Calipari and the Kentucky Wildcats love to recruit against Kansas. Willie Cauley (Spearville, Kan./Olathe NW) is the top talent in Kansas this year and his commitment would typically be a big feather in Calipari's cap except for one small detail: Kansas wasn’t a player for Cauley. Instead of besting recruiting rival Bill Self, Calipari snuck one by Frank Martin and the Kansas State Wildcats. Cauley was KSU’s top target.

Alabama, which also has a Top 50 player from Kansas on its roster, was heavily involved and Florida received a visit as well. However, the Mokan Elite standout, ranked No. 32 in the ESPNU 100, went with Kentucky. No, he’s not going to play football either, though UK could use him. Cauley, who lives with former NFL great Will Shields, played football for the first time this year.

Cauley is long, can run and is poised to be a defensive impact player. Offensively, Cauley has to find a scoring move and a comfort zone. If he can close his senior year in a role as dominant player and a big producer, he’ll be that much closer to reaching his potential. The kid has an NBA body.

Cauley told a number of coaches that were recruiting him that he wanted to be one and done. I get that, who doesn’t? The reality is while Cauley is a major talent; he’s going to need time to develop. You always hope that kids realize this when they make decisions.

WillieWatanabe · « **Reply #2476 on:** October 31, 2011, 01:00:37 PM »

great work Boom Roasted.

mcmwcat · « **Reply #2477 on:** October 31, 2011, 01:12:39 PM »

i guess i should have noted he was wearing blue at the tailgate. a kentucky blue. i'm too naive to think it meant something. sorry should have said something.

jmlynch1 · « **Reply #2478 on:** October 31, 2011, 01:26:11 PM »

KSTATEFREAK42!!!!!1!!!

Dr Rick Daris · « **Reply #2479 on:** October 31, 2011, 01:28:13 PM »

failing to close on cauley is not a good sign.

Fuktard · « **Reply #2480 on:** October 31, 2011, 01:33:22 PM »

I'm hoping that I can now continue to point out Cauley's flaws without getting jumped by the "stars mean everything" guys on this board. A good friend (who also was an assistant D1 bball coach) went to watch Cauley play football the other night. His text to me reiterated what I had seen with my own eyes....he's soft as a marshmallow. Maybe he's just a dominant, tenacious ass kicker on the bball court, but i doubt it. I wish we would have landed him because what he needs is Frank screaming at him. He's got no chance with Cal. I'd be shocked if he was ever a major contributor at UK.

420seriouscat69 · « **Reply #2481 on:** October 31, 2011, 01:40:29 PM »

Quote from: steve dave on August 10, 2011, 11:45:01 AM

Quote from: fanningksu on August 10, 2011, 11:44:28 AM
We'll end up going 0/100 on that ESPN list:

no we won't

Bump!

Skipper44 · « **Reply #2482 on:** October 31, 2011, 01:43:23 PM »

Quote from: Fuktard on October 31, 2011, 01:33:22 PM

I'm hoping that I can now continue to point out Cauley's flaws without getting jumped by the "stars mean everything" guys on this board. A good friend (who also was an assistant D1 bball coach) went to watch Cauley play football the other night. His text to me reiterated what I had seen with my own eyes....he's soft as a marshmallow. Maybe he's just a dominant, tenacious ass kicker on the bball court, but i doubt it. I wish we would have landed him because what he needs is Frank screaming at him. He's got no chance with Cal. I'd be shocked if he was ever a major contributor at UK.

Hoops version of Arthur Brown

mcmwcat · « **Reply #2483 on:** October 31, 2011, 02:52:19 PM »

#tsc

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Kaleb Tarczewski, the No. 1 center in the class of 2012 according to Rivals.com, picked Arizona over Kansas on Monday, according to multiple reports.

Read more: http://campuscorner.kansascity.com/node/2195#ixzz1cOIQ9uTX

steve dave · « **Reply #2484 on:** October 31, 2011, 03:22:28 PM »

Quote from: fanningksu on October 31, 2011, 01:40:29 PM

Quote from: steve dave on August 10, 2011, 11:45:01 AM
Quote from: fanningksu on August 10, 2011, 11:44:28 AM
We'll end up going 0/100 on that ESPN list:

no we won't

Bump!

yeah, we might. Upshaw

steve dave · « **Reply #2485 on:** October 31, 2011, 03:42:35 PM »

Quote from: mcmwcat on October 31, 2011, 02:52:19 PM

#tsc

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Kaleb Tarczewski, the No. 1 center in the class of 2012 according to Rivals.com, picked Arizona over Kansas on Monday, according to multiple reports.

Read more: http://campuscorner.kansascity.com/node/2195#ixzz1cOIQ9uTX

They allegedly had an offer for Upshaw. iirc they weren't on his list of finalists though.

Underdog Wildcat · « **Reply #2486 on:** October 31, 2011, 03:55:28 PM »

Yeah, AZ was thought to be Upshaw's leader until he cut his list to 4 last month and AZ mysteriously didn't make it.

His final 4 are L'vile, Fresno, G'town, and KSU Cats. He's already visited the first 3 listed and we'll get the last visit*. Having the last visit(2 actually) with Cauley didn't really help us. Just hope the visit goes well and we have a legit shot.

*Could still take 1 more(allowed 5 officials by NCAA) but haven't heard about him considering any others.

mcmwcat · « **Reply #2487 on:** October 31, 2011, 03:56:35 PM »

is Upshaw signing early or late period?

WillieWatanabe · « **Reply #2488 on:** October 31, 2011, 04:18:37 PM »

Ole DrJamesANaismith and DocHolliday are having a circle jerk on phog.net over this KSU/Mo-Kan thing.

Underdog Wildcat · « **Reply #2489 on:** October 31, 2011, 04:20:29 PM »

Quote from: mcmwcat on October 31, 2011, 03:56:35 PM

is Upshaw signing early or late period?

A couple months ago, he was saying that he was definitely going to decide late, but recently he has been saying that he is strongly considering signing early.

To best of my knowledge, no definite statement saying that he will sign early though.

420seriouscat69 · « **Reply #2490 on:** October 31, 2011, 04:24:58 PM »

Quote from: steve dave on October 31, 2011, 03:22:28 PM

Quote from: fanningksu on October 31, 2011, 01:40:29 PM
Quote from: steve dave on August 10, 2011, 11:45:01 AM
Quote from: fanningksu on August 10, 2011, 11:44:28 AM
We'll end up going 0/100 on that ESPN list:

no we won't

Bump!

yeah, we might. Upshaw

FranklyFrankYou · « **Reply #2491 on:** October 31, 2011, 04:37:16 PM »

Quote from: WillieWatanabe on October 31, 2011, 04:18:37 PM

Ole DrJamesANaismith and DocHolliday are having a circle jerk on phog.net over this KSU/Mo-Kan thing.

Examples?

WillieWatanabe · « **Reply #2492 on:** October 31, 2011, 04:39:03 PM »

Quote from: FranklyFrankYou on October 31, 2011, 04:37:16 PM

Quote from: WillieWatanabe on October 31, 2011, 04:18:37 PM
Ole DrJamesANaismith and DocHolliday are having a circle jerk on phog.net over this KSU/Mo-Kan thing.

Examples?

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DrJamesANaismith wrote:

.... someone dropped me this tidbit recently. Thoughts?

He moved from Spearville to Olathe by his AAU team (which is closely tied to KSU) after Brad Underwood (KSU assistant) convinced him to do so. He was living with his poor grandparents - and now he's living with Will Shields (who is also a good guy). His AAU team was parading him all around the country telling him he had offers that he didn't have - and using the kid to open up doors to their AAU program.

Well now - KSU is basically threatening the AAU team if the kid doesn't end up with them. The guy who runs the AAU team is controlling anything to do with his recruiting - because he knows KSU will quit placing foreigners with them - or help them get local kids that they have ties with.

Note - this is the same AAU team who's 17u assistant coach was just arrested for having sex with one of his High School students in the parking lot of Park Hill South High School.
http://www.nbcactionnews.com/d...y-perry-charged

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DoctorHolliday wrote:
Someone who dropped that on you has very good sources.

Given the level of involvement by KSU with his AAU program, I'm really surprised that he ended up anywhere but KSU.

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DrJamesANaismith wrote:

There's a lot more out there about this AAU team, foreign players and KSU.

mcmwcat · « **Reply #2493 on:** October 31, 2011, 04:46:12 PM »

THERE'S A LOT MORE!!!!!!

EMAWmeister · « **Reply #2494 on:** October 31, 2011, 06:59:01 PM »

If he wants to be a one and done, then it's no surprise at all he's at UK.

sonofdaxjones · « **Reply #2495 on:** October 31, 2011, 08:48:50 PM »

Doc is one of the true believers . . . everyone else cheats, ku never does.

sonofdaxjones · « **Reply #2496 on:** October 31, 2011, 08:55:57 PM »

I think it's pretty fantastic that K-State got a former Chief and a Nebraska Alum to carry water for the basketball program.

That's damn impressive.

bozocat · « **Reply #2497 on:** October 31, 2011, 09:17:21 PM »

Quote from: Fuktard on October 31, 2011, 01:33:22 PM

I'm hoping that I can now continue to point out Cauley's flaws without getting jumped by the "stars mean everything" guys on this board. A good friend (who also was an assistant D1 bball coach) went to watch Cauley play football the other night. His text to me reiterated what I had seen with my own eyes....he's soft as a marshmallow. Maybe he's just a dominant, tenacious ass kicker on the bball court, but i doubt it. I wish we would have landed him because what he needs is Frank screaming at him. He's got no chance with Cal. I'd be shocked if he was ever a major contributor at UK.

I wasn't really impressed by his videos either. Slow and soft. I didn't see the athleticism that others saw. All the same I wanted him bad. He's about as good as we can hope to get nowadays. I'd really like to keep the best in-state kids local. Ahhh, the eventual kick in the nuts.

sys · « **Reply #2498 on:** October 31, 2011, 09:36:02 PM »

Quote from: mcmwcat on October 31, 2011, 08:37:49 AM

i'd blame this loss on Old Ballz and his epic fail in the 3rd quarter on Saturday.

i've warned you people about snyder before.

Fuktard · « **Reply #2499 on:** October 31, 2011, 09:49:57 PM »

Quote from: bozocat on October 31, 2011, 09:17:21 PM

Quote from: Fuktard on October 31, 2011, 01:33:22 PM
I'm hoping that I can now continue to point out Cauley's flaws without getting jumped by the "stars mean everything" guys on this board. A good friend (who also was an assistant D1 bball coach) went to watch Cauley play football the other night. His text to me reiterated what I had seen with my own eyes....he's soft as a marshmallow. Maybe he's just a dominant, tenacious ass kicker on the bball court, but i doubt it. I wish we would have landed him because what he needs is Frank screaming at him. He's got no chance with Cal. I'd be shocked if he was ever a major contributor at UK.

I wasn't really impressed by his videos either. Slow and soft. I didn't see the athleticism that others saw. All the same I wanted him bad. He's about as good as we can hope to get nowadays. I'd really like to keep the best in-state kids local. Ahhh, the eventual kick in the nuts.

i agree and would love to keep the best talent in state. I think Frank could have made him a player. i was hopeful we could land Ellis...I think he'll end up being a much bigger contributor than Cauley.