2012 Recruiting Thread

[Mixed-Nutz]

Completely unofficial and unauthorized KSU Cat priority list for '12:

1. Cauley
1st recruit KSU offered in this class and KSU was 1st offer he received. Potential defensive stud(I'm hoping Jarvis Varnado type) who if he realizes his potential will be in the NBA in a few years. Hoping the KSU/Mokan friendliness pays off here.

2. Moose
The opportunity exists for some intrepid beat writer out there to be a hero and break the Moose to KSU commitment story and introduce him to the KSU Cat nation, 99% of whom probably haven't even heard of him before. Or just squash the rumor and let recruiting dorks like me know what the hell is going on with him.

2a. Macon
Fairly new name on the radar but apparently a lot of mutual interest here based on his pending visit. Bouncy, skilled, tough 4 man, Scout dudes swear up and down Pitt and W. Va will be tough to beat here, we'll just have to see.

2b. Upshaw
True 5 man who is actually pretty skilled. KSU Cats really haven't ventured out west much on the 'cruiting trail, would love to land him but a lot of other top programs are after him too. Has stated several times he won't decide until Spring.

5. Demetrius Henry
Not a ton of info out there on this athletic 4 man from the Orlando area. Rankin tweeted we offered him about 1 mo ago, more than likely a conditional offer, wait and see here I think.

6. AJPC
He may be #6 on th UWCUUPL, but he's  #6 with a bullet. If he can light up the prep school scene at Monteverde(FL) this year, he's probably ours to lose.

7. Nick Wiggins
Yes, he's our token Canadian JC kid but if landing him means we have a shot at little bro, who also happens to attend Huntington Prep along w/Macon, then I'm on board.

So Cauley over Upshaw.. I don't know about that, really like Upshaws game and he has put up monster numbers against great competition

[joda]

Four lottery picks in two years for KU.  Meanwhile, Pullen is brushing up on his Turkish and trying to find a way to get a sniff in the D-league. 

And how many of those lottery picks are actually doing well in the NBA?

Well, Cole and Xavier have only been in the league for one year.  Marcus and Markieff haven't had a chance to play yet thanks to the NBA lockout.  When was the last time K-State had someone drafted in the NBA?  


 

And Selby

[sys]

ffy,

your comment deserved ridicule chiefly because you asserted that ellis was overranked due to playing against inferior hs competition when, bossi aside, those doing the ranking have never seen him play hs bball, and don't give a rat's ass what his hs stats or competition were.

secondarily, because playing against inferior competition doesn't make you a bad player.  additionally because there are quality hs players in kansas, and quality hs teams in kansas.

it's not really a reason your comment was stupid, but it was also ironic that you chose to express your thoughts about kansas hs bball with the phrase "6'3" white guys" at a time when there's a top 100 (and prolly underrated) 6'3" white guy playing hs bball in wichita.

[MakeItRain]

absolutely underrated

[FranklyFrankYou]

ffy,

your comment deserved ridicule chiefly because you asserted that ellis was overranked due to playing against inferior hs competition when, bossi aside, those doing the ranking have never seen him play hs bball, and don't give a rat's ass what his hs stats or competition were.

secondarily, because playing against inferior competition doesn't make you a bad player.  additionally because there are quality hs players in kansas, and quality hs teams in kansas.

it's not really a reason your comment was stupid, but it was also ironic that you chose to express your thoughts about kansas hs bball with the phrase "6'3" white guys" at a time when there's a top 100 (and prolly underrated) 6'3" white guy playing hs bball in wichita.

If you are referring to Frankamp he is listed at a clean cut 6'0" in his rivals profile which probably lends him closer to 5'10"

[FranklyFrankYou]

Not to mention the fact that you wasted your keystrokes promoting KS HS bball yet your only example is Connor Frankamp...a 6"0" white guy. You ignore the fact that there is one team in the City League that has legit all around(debatable) talent. That doesn't prove the whole "KS HS bball is legit" comment.

[FranklyFrankYou]

Also, where did I say his rank was determined or undermined by his competition? I didn't I simply said that scoring and defending would be increasingly more difficult no matter where he played collegiately compared to "6'3" white guys" he played against on the wing in the city league

[sys]

50 states in the union, more than 300 million people.  in ks, less than 3 million.  two 2012 top 50 players, two 2013 top 100 players.

[FranklyFrankYou]

50 states in the union, more than 300 million people.  in ks, less than 3 million.  two 2012 top 50 players, two 2013 top 100 players.

Wow. How about you compare that to any of the states I listed. I would hope that over the last 10 years that KS would have a comparable amount of prospects but we all know that isn't true.  In fact, to use Cauley as well as Semi are almost cheating when the focus of our talk is on Wichita recruits. Especially since it started and has been spurred on by talk of the Wichita City League. Although I will allow it since the convo is KS kids.

But please don't try to compare KS to any legit state when it comes to HS bball such as Illinois or Florida or California or New York or Jersey etc, etc. KS does good for Ks but to pretend it even is remotely close to high level HS bball is lying to anyone who reads your posts and decreases your credibility

[chum1]

50 states in the union, more than 300 million people.  in ks, less than 3 million.  two 2012 top 50 players, two 2013 top 100 players.

Wow. How about you compare that to any of the states I listed. I would hope that over the last 10 years that KS would have a comparable amount of prospects but we all know that isn't true.  In fact, to use Cauley as well as Semi are almost cheating when the focus of our talk is on Wichita recruits. Especially since it started and has been spurred on by talk of the Wichita City League. Although I will allow it since the convo is KS kids.

But please don't try to compare KS to any legit state when it comes to HS bball such as Illinois or Florida or California or New York or Jersey etc, etc. KS does good for Ks but to pretend it even is remotely close to high level HS bball is lying to anyone who reads your posts and decreases your credibility

This.

[SoonerHoopsfan]

Edmond Memorial would kick anyteam in Kansas' ass, Kansas high school basketball sucks.

[jtksu]

Odd that you would insinuate that KC ball is superior to ICT ball.  City League basketball absolutely dominates 6A.  They've won like 22 of the last 34 titles.

[Rage Against the McKee]

50 states in the union, more than 300 million people.  in ks, less than 3 million.  two 2012 top 50 players, two 2013 top 100 players.

Wow. How about you compare that to any of the states I listed. I would hope that over the last 10 years that KS would have a comparable amount of prospects but we all know that isn't true.  In fact, to use Cauley as well as Semi are almost cheating when the focus of our talk is on Wichita recruits. Especially since it started and has been spurred on by talk of the Wichita City League. Although I will allow it since the convo is KS kids.

But please don't try to compare KS to any legit state when it comes to HS bball such as Illinois or Florida or California or New York or Jersey etc, etc. KS does good for Ks but to pretend it even is remotely close to high level HS bball is lying to anyone who reads your posts and decreases your credibility

He was saying that it's impressive that Kansas has 4% of the top 50 recruits while having less than 3% of the population. This would indicate that, at least this year, Kansas is an above average state for high school basketball recruits.

[michigancat]

HS basketball is a joke everywhere. No one in the recruiting business does in depth analysis based on HS games, nor should they.

[pissclams]

HS basketball is a joke everywhere. No one in the recruiting business does in depth analysis based on HS games, nor should they.

the recruiting business would be foolish to use HS games for their in depth analysis.  everyone knows they use recruits' mothers as thye basis for their analysis.

[stobblebobby]

Can someone please bump this whole quality of HS Basketball convo to another thread. It's worse than whether or not Judge was athletic.

[mcmwcat]

50 states in the union, more than 300 million people.  in ks, less than 3 million.  two 2012 top 50 players, two 2013 top 100 players.

Wow. How about you compare that to any of the states I listed. I would hope that over the last 10 years that KS would have a comparable amount of prospects but we all know that isn't true.  In fact, to use Cauley as well as Semi are almost cheating when the focus of our talk is on Wichita recruits. Especially since it started and has been spurred on by talk of the Wichita City League. Although I will allow it since the convo is KS kids.

But please don't try to compare KS to any legit state when it comes to HS bball such as Illinois or Florida or California or New York or Jersey etc, etc. KS does good for Ks but to pretend it even is remotely close to high level HS bball is lying to anyone who reads your posts and decreases your credibility

He was saying that it's impressive that Kansas has 4% of the top 50 recruits while having less than 3 1% of the population. This would indicate that, at least this year, Kansas is an above average state for high school basketball recruits.

fyp

[Rage Against the McKee]

50 states in the union, more than 300 million people.  in ks, less than 3 million.  two 2012 top 50 players, two 2013 top 100 players.

Wow. How about you compare that to any of the states I listed. I would hope that over the last 10 years that KS would have a comparable amount of prospects but we all know that isn't true.  In fact, to use Cauley as well as Semi are almost cheating when the focus of our talk is on Wichita recruits. Especially since it started and has been spurred on by talk of the Wichita City League. Although I will allow it since the convo is KS kids.

But please don't try to compare KS to any legit state when it comes to HS bball such as Illinois or Florida or California or New York or Jersey etc, etc. KS does good for Ks but to pretend it even is remotely close to high level HS bball is lying to anyone who reads your posts and decreases your credibility

He was saying that it's impressive that Kansas has 4% of the top 50 recruits while having less than 3 1% of the population. This would indicate that, at least this year, Kansas is an above average state for high school basketball recruits.

fyp

Thanks. I'm not sure what I was thinking there.

[Underdog Wildcat]

God bless you Bossi:

"More recently, three-star big man Laimonas Chatkevicius has been listed in a few places as a Kansas State commitment. While the Wildcats are involved and have plenty of interest, he has not yet committed to Kansas State or set up an official visit. "

Update also mentions Cauley is scheduled to visit KSU Oct 29.

http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1269137

[steve dave]

God bless you Bossi:

"More recently, three-star big man Laimonas Chatkevicius has been listed in a few places as a Kansas State commitment. While the Wildcats are involved and have plenty of interest, he has not yet committed to Kansas State or set up an official visit. "

Update also mentions Cauley is scheduled to visit KSU Oct 29.

http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1269137

Bossi is great

[Stevesie60]

God bless you Bossi:

"More recently, three-star big man Laimonas Chatkevicius has been listed in a few places as a Kansas State commitment. While the Wildcats are involved and have plenty of interest, he has not yet committed to Kansas State or set up an official visit. "

Update also mentions Cauley is scheduled to visit KSU Oct 29.

http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1269137

Settling for a 3*. Sounds about right.

[steve dave]

hard to accurately rate guys like Moose

[Stevesie60]

Macon commits to WVU. Again.

[Underdog Wildcat]

2012 Huntington Prep (WV) PF Elijah Macon has an in-home visit with West Virginia on Sunday. He will visit Kansas St on October 1st.

kline

Just hope he doesn't commit elsewhere(Pitt or W. Va. are prime suspects) before that visit, sorta joking, sorta not.

 

[sys]

i wonder if kstate will take both cauley and moose.  it'd be a lotta bigs in two years, but when mokan says take this/these recruit(s), kstate says how many.