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Re: 2012 Recruiting Thread
« Reply #2425 on: October 26, 2011, 10:39:07 AM »
I hope Moose reclassifies.  Too much of an unknown (other than being a MOKAN guaranteed stud)

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Re: 2012 Recruiting Thread
« Reply #2426 on: October 26, 2011, 10:43:37 AM »
I hope Moose reclassifies.  Too much of an unknown (other than being a MOKAN guaranteed stud)

That might be the best option for everybody, more scollys next year, more time for Moose to develop(another AAU circuit with the Cadillac of KC AAU Hoops), more time to evaluate Moose.  :thumbs:

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Re: 2012 Recruiting Thread
« Reply #2427 on: October 26, 2011, 02:08:18 PM »
So, a Cauley/Moose twofer?

Twofer as in?:

1. They're both visiting KSU this weekend

OR

2. They're both signing/going to KSU to play ball   

A definite "MAYBE" is the answer to both right now.



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Re: 2012 Recruiting Thread
« Reply #2428 on: October 26, 2011, 11:20:53 PM »
1 scolly to give(in the fall at least), 2 known outright offers are still on the board(Cauley and Upshaw), backup plans are in place(Moose, Henry, Durley, more?).

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Re: 2012 Recruiting Thread
« Reply #2429 on: October 27, 2011, 03:33:46 PM »
Changes in hoops recruiting regs. The biggest IMO are:

- Live evaluation periods(AAU events) added back to April. Evaluation periods shortened in July.

- Official visits can start taking place on Jan 1 of prospect's JR yr.

- Unlimited private electronic contact between coaches and recruits starting in prospect' SO yr

Sounds like majority of these changes will go into effect August 1, 2012

http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/public/ncaa/resources/latest+news/2011/october/board+revamps+mens+basketball+recruiting
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Re: 2012 Recruiting Thread
« Reply #2430 on: October 27, 2011, 06:02:00 PM »
Changes in hoops recruiting regs. The biggest IMO are:

- Live evaluation periods(AAU events) added back to April. Evaluation periods shortened in July.

- Official visits can start taking place on Jan 1 of prospect's JR yr.

- Unlimited private electronic contact between coaches and recruits starting in prospect' SO yr

Sounds like majority of these changes will go into effect August 1, 2012

http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/public/ncaa/resources/latest+news/2011/october/board+revamps+mens+basketball+recruiting

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Re: 2012 Recruiting Thread
« Reply #2431 on: October 27, 2011, 07:25:19 PM »
I don't know if you can look at this whole body of changes as the pertain specifically to KSU and say "Wow, that's great for us" or "Goddam, they're totally screwing us!"

I do know that there was a pretty strong movement from the coaching community to bring part of the live period back to April. They felt they were relying too much on "word of mouth" on player evaluations from the Spring and they felt the result was they were offering players prematurely. Another part of that argument, which clearly caught the NCAA's attention, was caoches wanted to see players develop from the Spring through the end of Summer. In the current system, coaches only get to see players in the circuit in July and the feeling was that such a condensed evaluation period was not as accurate as it could be. So by bringing April back into the live period, and cutting back a bit from July, the coaches get to see the players for approx the same amount of time overall but the complete evaluation is stretched over a longer period, which would provide a better indicator of a player's development and responses to different game situations and environments.

If there's 1 change here that I would say benefits KSU, it's the allowance of official visits, fully paid for by the school, on January 1 of the prospect's JR year. As it is now, prospects are only allowed to begin official visits in the Fall of their SR year and with the increasing amount of commitments coming before a prospect even reaches the Fall of his SR year, the thought was that the prospects were not getting the opportunity to explore all of their options before making a commitment. I linked an article a couple weeks back(linked again below here) outlining the increasing amount of "unofficial visits"(supposed to be soley financed by recruit's family or support group) and the increasing difficulty in regulating them.

I think simply due to KSU's relatively remote location, this moving up of the official visit calendar gives us the opportunity to legitimately host prospects that we may not have gotten a chance to receive a visit from in the past due to financing concerns.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/03/sports/ncaafootball/unofficial-visits-in-ncaa-recruiting-draw-concern-not-scrutiny.html?pagewanted=all

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Re: 2012 Recruiting Thread
« Reply #2432 on: October 27, 2011, 07:36:33 PM »
I don't know if you can look at this whole body of changes as the pertain specifically to KSU and say "Wow, that's great for us" or "Goddam, they're totally screwing us!"

I do know that there was a pretty strong movement from the coaching community to bring part of the live period back to April. They felt they were relying too much on "word of mouth" on player evaluations from the Spring and they felt the result was they were offering players prematurely. Another part of that argument, which clearly caught the NCAA's attention, was caoches wanted to see players develop from the Spring through the end of Summer. In the current system, coaches only get to see players in the circuit in July and the feeling was that such a condensed evaluation period was not as accurate as it could be. So by bringing April back into the live period, and cutting back a bit from July, the coaches get to see the players for approx the same amount of time overall but the complete evaluation is stretched over a longer period, which would provide a better indicator of a player's development and responses to different game situations and environments.

If there's 1 change here that I would say benefits KSU, it's the allowance of official visits, fully paid for by the school, on January 1 of the prospect's JR year. As it is now, prospects are only allowed to begin official visits in the Fall of their SR year and with the increasing amount of commitments coming before a prospect even reaches the Fall of his SR year, the thought was that the prospects were not getting the opportunity to explore all of their options before making a commitment. I linked an article a couple weeks back(linked again below here) outlining the increasing amount of "unofficial visits"(supposed to be soley financed by recruit's family or support group) and the increasing difficulty in regulating them.

I think simply due to KSU's relatively remote location, this moving up of the official visit calendar gives us the opportunity to legitimately host prospects that we may not have gotten a chance to receive a visit from in the past due to financing concerns.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/03/sports/ncaafootball/unofficial-visits-in-ncaa-recruiting-draw-concern-not-scrutiny.html?pagewanted=all

thanks. My initial reaction was :dunno:  but the visits ruling probably does help our chances at getting recruits on campus.
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Re: 2012 Recruiting Thread
« Reply #2433 on: October 27, 2011, 08:15:50 PM »
i would say all of those are good for kstate, with the visits being hugely, giantly good for kstate, the april being slightly good for kstate (because the current staff is more conservative than the staffs at many other schools and won't offer with minimal evaluation and has sometimes seemingly lost ground to more aggressive schools in the spring and june), and the e contact being good only in the sense that it isn't bad.
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Re: 2012 Recruiting Thread
« Reply #2434 on: October 28, 2011, 12:52:01 PM »
buzz and drew are going to text their asses off

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Re: 2012 Recruiting Thread
« Reply #2435 on: October 28, 2011, 02:05:36 PM »
does Cauley have a date set for his announce or is all we know 'sometime next week' ?

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Re: 2012 Recruiting Thread
« Reply #2436 on: October 28, 2011, 02:06:26 PM »
does Cauley have a date set for his announce or is all we know 'sometime next week' ?

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Re: 2012 Recruiting Thread
« Reply #2437 on: October 28, 2011, 02:09:19 PM »
Is OSU back in it?  I'm guessing not.

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Re: 2012 Recruiting Thread
« Reply #2438 on: October 28, 2011, 02:10:10 PM »
Is OSU back in it?  I'm guessing not.

oooh that'd make me mad

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« Reply #2439 on: October 28, 2011, 04:04:03 PM »
Is OSU back in it?  I'm guessing not.

pretty sure they aren't.

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Re: 2012 Recruiting Thread
« Reply #2440 on: October 28, 2011, 09:26:02 PM »
Cal at Cauley's game tonight  :frown:

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Re: 2012 Recruiting Thread
« Reply #2441 on: October 28, 2011, 09:29:19 PM »
Cal at Cauley's game tonight  :frown:

Last ditch effort.  Sad to see Cal this desperate. 
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Re: 2012 Recruiting Thread
« Reply #2442 on: October 28, 2011, 09:31:03 PM »
I have a bad feeling we are mumped  :frown:

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Re: 2012 Recruiting Thread
« Reply #2443 on: October 28, 2011, 09:44:17 PM »
Who Cal wants, Cal gets.  eff.

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Re: 2012 Recruiting Thread
« Reply #2444 on: October 29, 2011, 05:29:48 PM »
gpc poster claiming to have seen cauley revisiting.
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« Reply #2445 on: October 29, 2011, 05:30:40 PM »
gpc poster claiming to have seen cauley revisiting.

huh, thought i read he wouldn't be. Good sign if true.
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Re: 2012 Recruiting Thread
« Reply #2446 on: October 29, 2011, 06:34:21 PM »
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Re: 2012 Recruiting Thread
« Reply #2447 on: October 29, 2011, 08:24:43 PM »
gpc poster claiming to have seen cauley revisiting.

huh, thought i read he wouldn't be. Good sign if true.

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« Reply #2448 on: October 29, 2011, 08:36:40 PM »
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Chatkevicius says he will not explore other schools while he waits to make things officials with K-State.

no, well why would he?  team, state, conference.
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Re: 2012 Recruiting Thread
« Reply #2449 on: October 29, 2011, 11:28:50 PM »
gpc poster claiming to have seen cauley revisiting.

confirmed.  hung out at our tailgate for a while