for the "this team is ahead of last year's team" tards, myself included,

[sys]

last year's team has caught up.

[kougar24]

I'm targeting the UNLV game as the barometer for that comparo, myself.

[_33]

Denis just mooned this years team on the way by.

[kso_FAN]

Probably, but UNLV and FL will tell us a lot more. 3 top 50 kenpom wins is still nice though.

[I_have_purplewood]

Have to agree.  I'm getting kind of tired from telling myself that the last four games have been the/our Fort Hays St. game. 

[A-Lishious]

I said it before the season started... sigh. Hate being right.

KSU is last years texas... except you guys wont ever get to number one this year.

Listen theres plenty of  to make the hurt stop.

PM me for any bball related melt downs that require some kind of therapy. As a hawk fan I have endured far too much of that.

[catzacker]

 

[wetwillie]

I'm targeting the UNLV game as the barometer for that comparo, myself.

This

[slimz]

I still feel this year's team is ahead of last year's defensively. Offensively they're still a work in progress. Not having Denis' instant offense hurts, they're trying to figure out a consistent rotation, Pullen's showing his liabilities as a point combo.  On the plus side, we don't have the vortex of offensive suck consisting of Colon, Sutton, and Merriweather. At least this year's Energy can actually hit jump shots (including 3 pointers) when he's in the game.

It appears our upside for this year will depend on Spradling/Irving's ability to take over more of the point responsibilities as the year progresses and whether an offensive rotation gets established that "clicks." Still think the upside for this year's team is higher, because at any given time there's more overall talent on the floor.

[kso_FAN]

I still feel this year's team is ahead of last year's defensively. Offensively they're still a work in progress. Not having Denis' instant offense hurts, they're trying to figure out a consistent rotation, Pullen's showing his liabilities as a point combo.  On the plus side, we don't have the vortex of offensive suck consisting of Colon, Sutton, and Meriwether. At least this year's Energy can actually hit jump shots (including 3 pointers) when he's in the game.

It appears our upside for this year will depend on Spradling/Irving's ability to take over more of the point responsibilities as the year progresses and whether an offensive rotation gets established that "clicks." Still think the upside for this year's team is higher, because at any given time there's more overall talent on the floor.

Well said.

[Sugar Dick]

On the plus side, we don't have the vortex of offensive suck consisting of Colon, Sutton, and Merriweather. At least this year's Energy can actually hit jump shots (including 3 pointers) when he's in the game.

[pike]

Last year we had the sane record with an L to Ole Miss. This year our L is to Duke. Big difference

[hatingfrancisco]

I still feel this year's team is ahead of last year's defensively. Offensively they're still a work in progress. Not having Denis' instant offense hurts, they're trying to figure out a consistent rotation, Pullen's showing his liabilities as a point combo.  On the plus side, we don't have the vortex of offensive suck consisting of Colon, Sutton, and Merriweather. At least this year's Energy can actually hit jump shots (including 3 pointers) when he's in the game.

It appears our upside for this year will depend on Spradling/Irving's ability to take over more of the point responsibilities as the year progresses and whether an offensive rotation gets established that "clicks." Still think the upside for this year's team is higher, because at any given time there's more overall talent on the floor.

Had to read this twice because it was so rough ridin' on point.

[gatoveintisiete]

I still feel this year's team is ahead of last year's defensively. Offensively they're still a work in progress. Not having Denis' instant offense hurts, they're trying to figure out a consistent rotation, Pullen's showing his liabilities as a point combo.  On the plus side, we don't have the vortex of offensive suck consisting of Colon, Sutton, and Merriweather. At least this year's Energy can actually hit jump shots (including 3 pointers) when he's in the game.

It appears our upside for this year will depend on Spradling/Irving's ability to take over more of the point responsibilities as the year progresses and whether an offensive rotation gets established that "clicks." Still think the upside for this year's team is higher, because at any given time there's more overall talent on the floor.

Had to read this twice because it was so effing on point.

OMG

[michigancat]

frank needs to do a better job recruiting.

[WillieWatanabe]

frank needs to do a better job recruiting.

[fatty fat fat]

miserable human beings.

[pissclams]

A lot of squawks outing themselves in this thread

[sonofdaxjones]

Hard to play a guy much at point who is a .111 FT shooter.

[Arthur Carlson]

Still think we'll know plenty more right after the holiday break on what this team will be.  Martin & company have always made plenty of hay with the relaxed practice restrictions around this time.  Would be surprised if this year was any different.