Author Topic: The Royals (Read 5852234 times)

Kat Kid · « **Reply #7375 on:** October 02, 2013, 10:45:06 PM »

Quote from: sys on October 01, 2013, 11:26:08 PM

re. moose, katkid had an interesting if true post about him midseason. it was about the stats of a mean or median third baseman. they were shockingly horrible. i think a lot of people, like myself, became accustomed to the stats of players who augmented their natural talent with science. it is hard to recalibrate.

http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=3b&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=400&type=1&season=2013&month=0&season1=2013&ind=0&team=0&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0&sort=10,d

Moose was bad. Let's agree on that, but 3b was bad too. That is an underrated talking point about the offense that people seem overly skeptical about its improvement just because they are rightly skeptical about the pitching. Ater the top 10 in MLB you are talking really mediocre players. It isn't just the Royals, it is everyone at 3b. Even if Moustakas just gets back to last year (.242/.296 OBP/.700 OPS, 20 HR, 34 2b) he will be league average. He doesn't need to have some break out season. Just be league average and the offense will improve.

Let's look at the 3b by OPS tiers (min. 400PA):

1.000
Miguel Cabrera

.900
David Wright

.850
Josh Donaldson
Adrian Beltre

.800
Chris Johnson
Ryan Zimmerman

.750
Pedro Alvarez
Juan Uribe
Kyle Seager
Pablo Sandoval
Martin Prado

.700
Chase Headley
Manny Machado
Michael Young
Todd Frazier
David Freese
Brett Lawrie
Nolan Arenado
Alberto Callaspo
Trevor Plouffe

.650
Mark Reynolds
Conor Gillaspie
Matt Dominguez
Mike Moustakas

.600
Placido Polanco
Jeff Keppinger

.550
Yuni Betancourt

EMAWmeister · « **Reply #7376 on:** October 03, 2013, 12:40:09 AM »

So assuming we don't retain Erv, how much salary are we dumping this offseason?

Erv $12m
Hoch $4.56
Chen $4.5
Carroll $3.75
Kottaras $1

Anyone else? And what do we do with Guthrie? He's owed an extra $6m next year

Dub · « **Reply #7377 on:** October 03, 2013, 01:35:37 AM »

Quote from: EMAWmeister on October 03, 2013, 12:40:09 AM

So assuming we don't retain Erv, how much salary are we dumping this offseason?

Erv $12m
Hoch $4.56
Chen $4.5
Carroll $3.75
Kottaras $1

Anyone else? And what do we do with Guthrie? He's owed an extra $6m next year

We better make a qualifying offer on Erv or I'm going to flip crap.

Kat Kid · « **Reply #7378 on:** October 03, 2013, 06:45:18 AM »

Quote from: EMAWmeister on October 03, 2013, 12:40:09 AM

So assuming we don't retain Erv, how much salary are we dumping this offseason?

Erv $12m
Hoch $4.56
Chen $4.5
Carroll $3.75
Kottaras $1

Anyone else? And what do we do with Guthrie? He's owed an extra $6m next year

Well you are going to need to pay Guthrie that awful contract because that is what an MLB contract says. It is guaranteed money.

Crow, hoch, and a bunch of other guys are due for FA or arbitration so they will spend a decent chunk of that money just standing pat with Guthrie's increase.

They should be make a qualifying offer to Erv but they should also hope he gets more somewhere else.

TownieCat · « **Reply #7379 on:** October 03, 2013, 12:30:47 PM »

I'll take five so I can use them as Christmas gifts... http://www.sbnation.com/lookit/2013/10/3/4798784/now-you-can-buy-a-2013-royals-world-series-champs-shirt

'taterblast · « **Reply #7380 on:** October 03, 2013, 12:36:56 PM »

i just bought one. that's awesome. hell it's a good looking shirt.

mocat · « **Reply #7381 on:** October 03, 2013, 12:44:40 PM »

it's absolutely no less derpy than a TEXAS STATE CHAMPS shirt

'taterblast · « **Reply #7382 on:** October 03, 2013, 12:47:17 PM »

Quote from: mocat on October 03, 2013, 12:44:40 PM

it's absolutely no less derpy than a TEXAS STATE CHAMPS shirt

huh?

kitten_mittons · « **Reply #7383 on:** October 03, 2013, 01:02:57 PM »

Quote from: mocat on October 03, 2013, 12:44:40 PM

it's absolutely no less derpy than a TEXAS STATE CHAMPS shirt

It's 100% less derpy.

mocat · « **Reply #7384 on:** October 03, 2013, 01:06:51 PM »

Quote from: emawblast on October 03, 2013, 12:47:17 PM

Quote from: mocat on October 03, 2013, 12:44:40 PM
it's absolutely no less derpy than a TEXAS STATE CHAMPS shirt

huh?

i mean, if it was an officially sponsored royals shirt, it would be no more derpy than the officially sponsored ksu texas state champs shirt

EMAWmeister · « **Reply #7385 on:** October 03, 2013, 02:59:37 PM »

Quote from: mocat on October 03, 2013, 01:06:51 PM

Quote from: emawblast on October 03, 2013, 12:47:17 PM
Quote from: mocat on October 03, 2013, 12:44:40 PM
it's absolutely no less derpy than a TEXAS STATE CHAMPS shirt

huh?

i mean, if it was an officially sponsored royals shirt, it would be no more derpy than the officially sponsored ksu texas state champs shirt

It's not 'derpy' at all.

jtksu · « **Reply #7386 on:** October 04, 2013, 01:23:37 AM »

I'm not going to bother to read the last 8 pages. I'm sure it's full of incredibly insightful baseball opinions but whatever. I'll just be nice and to the point. This was a very successful season for the Royals and there's no reason to think they can't build on it and be a playoff team next year.

sonofdaxjones · « **Reply #7387 on:** October 04, 2013, 09:18:21 AM »

The Reds: Zeal to go beyond where they've been.

The Royals: A tepid, timid step to actually accomplish something

Cartierfor3 · « **Reply #7388 on:** October 04, 2013, 09:43:42 AM »

Quote from: sonofdaxjones on October 04, 2013, 09:18:21 AM

The Reds: Zeal to go beyond where they've been.

The Royals: A tepid, timid step to actually accomplish something

Dax: working really hard lately to troll on the Royals thread

TownieCat · « **Reply #7389 on:** October 04, 2013, 10:43:01 AM »

sys · « **Reply #7390 on:** October 04, 2013, 10:54:20 AM »

wait are people suggesting that yost should be fired because he uses weird lineups and strange tactical decisions in favor of dusty baker? because that'd be a very funny suggestion.

CHONGS · « **Reply #7391 on:** October 04, 2013, 12:24:33 PM »

The royals should hire Bobby Valentine. He's a tactical genius.

bones129 · « **Reply #7392 on:** October 11, 2013, 01:09:43 AM »

Quote from: Chingon on October 04, 2013, 12:24:33 PM

The royals should hire Bobby Valentine. He's a tactical genius.

Bobby is a psycho. His one year in Boston proved that. Ned is now entrenched for a couple of years. I hope it works.

Cartierfor3 · « **Reply #7393 on:** October 11, 2013, 08:37:02 AM »

Payrolls in the LCS:
(in millions)
Dodgers 216
Boston 159
Detriot 149
St. Louis 117

We suck

mocat · « **Reply #7394 on:** October 11, 2013, 08:43:50 AM »

Quote from: CartierFor3 on October 11, 2013, 08:37:02 AM

Payrolls in the LCS:
(in millions)
Dodgers 216
Boston 159
Detriot 149
St. Louis 117

We suck

yeah well, so what, you know?

yankees 228
dodgers 216
philadelphia 159
boston 158
detroit 149
SF 142
LAA 142
Texas 127
CWS 124
Toronto 118
st louis 116
Washington 112
Cincinnati 110
Cubs 104
Baltimore 91
Milwaukee 91
Arizona 90
Atlanta 89
Mets 88
Seattle 84
Cleveland 82
KC 80
Minnesota 75
Colorado 75
San Diego 71
Oakland 68
Pittsburgh 66
Tampa Bay 57
Miami 39
Houston 24

same amount of teams >$90m made the playoffs as <$90m

no excuses is my point, friend

mocat · « **Reply #7395 on:** October 11, 2013, 08:52:25 AM »

Quote from: mocat on October 11, 2013, 08:43:50 AM

Quote from: CartierFor3 on October 11, 2013, 08:37:02 AM
Payrolls in the LCS:
(in millions)
Dodgers 216
Boston 159
Detriot 149
St. Louis 117

We suck

yeah well, so what, you know?

yankees 228
dodgers 216 0-0
philadelphia 159
boston 158 5-2
detroit 149 10-9
SF 142
LAA 142
Texas 127
CWS 124
Toronto 118
st louis 116 1-3
Washington 112
Cincinnati 110 0-0
Cubs 104
Baltimore 91
Milwaukee 91
Arizona 90
Atlanta 89 2-2
Mets 88
Seattle 84
Cleveland 82 9-10
KC 80
Minnesota 75
Colorado 75
San Diego 71
Oakland 68 1-5
Pittsburgh 66 0-0
Tampa Bay 57 6-1
Miami 39
Houston 24

same amount of teams >$90m made the playoffs as <$90m

no excuses is my point, friend

royals record vs playoff teams added above. overal record vs all 10 playoff teams = 34-32

VIRTUALLY WON THE WORLD SERIES

Cartierfor3 · « **Reply #7396 on:** October 11, 2013, 08:57:09 AM »

Feels like it!

The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep · « **Reply #7397 on:** October 11, 2013, 03:02:32 PM »

to be fair, mocat, he did say the LCS. the rich teams are all in the LCS and beat the poors in the LDS.

mocat · « **Reply #7398 on:** October 11, 2013, 03:09:14 PM »

Quote from: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on October 11, 2013, 03:02:32 PM

to be fair, mocat, he did say the LCS. the rich teams are all in the LCS and beat the poors in the LDS.

i did notice that but i would party my face off to be Oakland right now and have the tying run on base in the bottom of the 9th in game 5 of the ALDS

The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep · « **Reply #7399 on:** October 11, 2013, 03:27:56 PM »

Quote from: mocat on October 11, 2013, 03:09:14 PM

Quote from: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on October 11, 2013, 03:02:32 PM
to be fair, mocat, he did say the LCS. the rich teams are all in the LCS and beat the poors in the LDS.

i did notice that but i would party my face off to be Oakland right now and have the tying run on base in the bottom of the 9th in game 5 of the ALDS

i wonder if billy beane said he felt like they just won the world series?