Author Topic: The Royals (Read 5772125 times)

nicname · « **Reply #750 on:** August 01, 2011, 12:20:36 AM »

Quote from: jtksu on August 01, 2011, 12:09:56 AM

Yeah and that kinda sucks, I like Getz alot. Dude plays hard, just wish he was a better hitter. Watched Gio play a minor league game a couple weeks ago- dude looks really good.

Getz is a good "clubhouse guy," problem is he doesn't have any real value as an average defensive second baseman who hits for no power with a low average and can only play one position. He might be a good utility guy if he could play SS, 3b, OF from time to time.

I think Gio will be pretty good.

jtksu · « **Reply #751 on:** August 02, 2011, 12:49:30 PM »

Yeh, I think Getz is pretty much just a placeholder for Johnny. Similar type players but Johnny is more talented in every facet.

j-dub · « **Reply #752 on:** August 02, 2011, 01:09:48 PM »

Quote from: jtksu on August 02, 2011, 12:49:30 PM

Yeh, I think Getz is pretty much just a placeholder for Johnny. Similar type players but Johnny is more talented in every facet.

They aren't similar at all actually. Getz is a good baserunner, decent fielder, no bat type. And Johnny is an above average bat, average runner, below average fielder.

By starting Johnny we sacrifice a little in the field and on the basepath but gain quite a bit at the plate.

Will be interesting to see where Navarro, the guy from the BoSox via Aviles, ends up. He's a true utility guy, able to play 2nd, short, 3rd and a little corner outfield.. Hopefully, KC just DFA's Getz and moves ahead with Gio and Navarro.

felix rex · « **Reply #753 on:** August 02, 2011, 01:31:04 PM »

Objectively observing Royals fans makes me uncomfortable about myself as a kstate fan.

Cire · « **Reply #754 on:** August 03, 2011, 12:22:54 AM »

these royals are very much like the 99-01 royals. Pray Management invests in the team this time.

j-dub · « **Reply #755 on:** August 03, 2011, 11:13:56 AM »

Quote from: Cire on August 03, 2011, 12:22:54 AM

these royals are very much like the 99-01 royals. Pray Management invests in the team this time.

spot on.

jtksu · « **Reply #756 on:** August 03, 2011, 11:31:59 PM »

Navarro started @ 3rd tonight and went 2 for 3.

j-dub · « **Reply #757 on:** August 04, 2011, 12:57:03 AM »

Quote from: j-dub on August 03, 2011, 11:13:56 AM

Quote from: Cire on August 03, 2011, 12:22:54 AM
these royals are very much like the 99-01 royals. Pray Management invests in the team this time.

spot on.

BITB wants to offer Hos $100 mill over the next ten years and lock him up.

don't think boras would let him do it

jtksu · « **Reply #758 on:** August 04, 2011, 01:00:00 AM »

10 yrs @ 10 mil per may end up being a sizable discount for KC if Hosmer continues to improve. Dude is a bad mother. (Look what the Twins had to pay Mauer to stick around and he's a hometown kid who grew up dreaming of playing for the Twins.)

WillieWatanabe · « **Reply #759 on:** August 04, 2011, 01:36:50 AM »

Man, Really wish we woulda traded Butler. Just a horrible player and teammate.

Rage Against the McKee · « **Reply #760 on:** August 04, 2011, 08:19:42 AM »

Quote from: WillieWatanabe on August 04, 2011, 01:36:50 AM

Man, Really wish we woulda traded Butler. Just a horrible player and teammate.

I agree completely.

kso_FAN · « **Reply #761 on:** August 04, 2011, 08:20:11 AM »

Quote from: WillieWatanabe on August 04, 2011, 01:36:50 AM

Man, Really wish we woulda traded Butler. Just a horrible player and teammate.

I kind of like the new nickname for Butler.

And it has a story similar to the OOD name: http://www.pinetarpress.com/?p=8913

j-dub · « **Reply #762 on:** August 04, 2011, 01:22:13 PM »

Quote from: ksu_FAN on August 04, 2011, 08:20:11 AM

Quote from: WillieWatanabe on August 04, 2011, 01:36:50 AM
Man, Really wish we woulda traded Butler. Just a horrible player and teammate.

I kind of like the new nickname for Butler.

And it has a story similar to the OOD name: http://www.pinetarpress.com/?p=8913

a friend of mine has tried to get "bam bam" to catch on for years.

but i'm lovin' me some country breakfast.

joda · « **Reply #763 on:** August 04, 2011, 08:53:01 PM »

Quote from: WillieWatanabe on August 04, 2011, 01:36:50 AM

Man, Really wish we woulda traded Butler. Just a horrible player and teammate.

Don't know if there's any team that would do it, but would love to try and package him with a prospect for a true front of the rotation starter over the winter.

jtksu · « **Reply #764 on:** August 04, 2011, 09:11:10 PM »

Would rather trade Melky and one of the prospects for a solid #2 or 3 guy. But, I also have no idea what type of deal we signed Melky to. I like Billy as a DH.

nicname · « **Reply #765 on:** August 04, 2011, 11:02:29 PM »

Anyone who doesn't want Butler is an idiot. Butler is 25 years old and won't hit his prime until 27 or so. Yet, he is still far and away one of the best DH's in the games. Obviously he is a turd of a 1-bagger, but he is fine to give Hosmer a rest once a week. Butler straight produces. He is third among all DH's with a 135 ops+, the only guys in front of him are Big Papi and Travis Hafner.

Cire · « **Reply #766 on:** August 04, 2011, 11:18:16 PM »

Keep melky until Cain is good and damned ready. Nothing wrong with keeping butler as a DH as long as he's reasonable about his salary. The Team needs starting pitching, and will have to go to the free agent market and spend some cash to be competitive.

nicname · « **Reply #767 on:** August 05, 2011, 12:04:30 AM »

The only way that you trade Butler is if KC gets a surefire #1 or high #2 starter. Butler doesn't bring that. Butler also has a club friendly contract.

BTW, Giavotella just got the call. <----

jtksu · « **Reply #768 on:** August 05, 2011, 12:12:42 AM »

Cain has been tearing up triple A, he should be ready next season. Any idea why Navarro has started the last 2 games? Moose dinged up?

j-dub · « **Reply #769 on:** August 05, 2011, 12:18:15 AM »

Quote from: Cire on August 04, 2011, 11:18:16 PM

Keep melky until Cain is good and damned ready. Nothing wrong with keeping butler as a DH as long as he's reasonable about his salary. The Team needs starting pitching, and will have to go to the free agent market and spend some cash to be competitive.

Billy is in the 1st year of a long term deal. He's not going anywhere. As far as Cain and Melky go, Cain is ready - he's batting over 300, OPSing over 850 and playing a great center field. But Melky is playing his ass off. I believe Melky signed a one year deal with a club option for a 2nd year. If I'm remembering that right, we will pick up that option and keep him around another year. I'd rather trade Frenchy, shift Melky to right and hand center over to Cain.

We desperately need a frontline starter, but this year's free agent class is pretty sorry. Best bet is to try and package a trade for someone like Clayton Kershaw.

nicname · « **Reply #770 on:** August 05, 2011, 12:49:55 AM »

I have a hard time believing that DM will trade Frenchy. I also have no problem with an OF rotation that includes Gordon, Melky, Frenchy, and Cain for next season. The problem is that Frenchy has said that he isn't willing to do a platoon, which is bad because he mashes vs LHP and is pretty bad vs. RHP. DM also likes "clubhouse guys" which Frenchy is.

I'd personally like to see KC keep all of them, Gordon can still play in field from time to time if need be, and having four quality OF is always a good thing.

WillieWatanabe · « **Reply #771 on:** August 05, 2011, 03:09:27 AM »

Quote from: ksu_FAN on August 04, 2011, 08:20:11 AM

Quote from: WillieWatanabe on August 04, 2011, 01:36:50 AM
Man, Really wish we woulda traded Butler. Just a horrible player and teammate.

I kind of like the new nickname for Butler.

And it has a story similar to the OOD name: http://www.pinetarpress.com/?p=8913

hopefully everyone picked up on my sarcasm, not looking like everyone did. Yes, love the nickname. Even got play on Baseball Tonight, apparently.

schreds21 · « **Reply #772 on:** August 05, 2011, 08:37:03 AM »

Quote from: jtksu on August 05, 2011, 12:12:42 AM

Moose dinged up?

Read that Yost wanted to give him a couple of days off to work on his swing with Seitz without having to deal with the pressure of game situations.

jtksu · « **Reply #773 on:** August 05, 2011, 10:17:38 AM »

Kinda of nice to actually have a logjam of talent in the OF. Mitch has also done a nice job this year, both pinch hitting and making spot starts.

j-dub · « **Reply #774 on:** August 05, 2011, 11:56:59 AM »

Quote from: jtksu on August 05, 2011, 10:17:38 AM

Kinda of nice to actually have a logjam of talent in the OF. Mitch has also done a nice job this year, both pinch hitting and making spot starts.

Lough is also playing really well at AAA. It would be a bit of a waste to keep both Frenchy and Melky. I want to keep Melky and flip Frenchy. But as nicname said above, DM is far too in love with French. With one or two well-above average starters, this team could take the division next year. Really looking forward to the day that being a Royals fan finally pays off..