Author Topic: The Royals (Read 5880068 times)

420seriouscat69 · « **Reply #65075 on:** July 28, 2016, 11:17:52 AM »

It amazes me that all of you guys aren't sitting in an mlb office somewhere. Beyond me. Bright minds all around.

ChiComCat · « **Reply #65076 on:** July 28, 2016, 11:18:52 AM »

Quote from: mocat on July 28, 2016, 11:07:09 AM

Chicat, tell us more about:

- why we should trade dick duffy

- how we could get suck town off the books

I mentioned Duffy when I thought he was gone after this year. Given that I was wrong about that, definitely keep him. (I rolled back on that position pretty quickly when I was corrected)

I don't think we can get suck town off the books but he is part of $46m in guaranteed shitty contracts in '18 that we should try to get rid of. Even if we just move Soria and Kennedy, we have a lot better chance of building a winning roster in '18 with $20m in shitty contracts than $46m.

If we sign a shitty Kennedy-level replacement, he will just screw us for half a season instead of 4.

420seriouscat69 · « **Reply #65077 on:** July 28, 2016, 11:19:51 AM »

Cartierfor3 · « **Reply #65078 on:** July 28, 2016, 11:20:46 AM »

Quote from: WackyCat08 on July 28, 2016, 11:17:52 AM

It amazes me that all of you guys aren't sitting in an mlb office somewhere. Beyond me. Bright minds all around.

I bet some of these dudes think they know more about football than LHC Bill Snyder. oscar has forgotten more about basketball than some of these clowns will ever even know am i right WC?

420seriouscat69 · « **Reply #65079 on:** July 28, 2016, 11:23:28 AM »

If you guys don't want to be realistic about this teams ceiling for the future, then I can't help you. Some moves are going to need to be made to stay competitive for awhile. I know you guys want to run a dynasty like the Yankees, but it's not realistic.

Cartierfor3 · « **Reply #65080 on:** July 28, 2016, 11:25:00 AM »

Quote from: WackyCat08 on July 28, 2016, 11:23:28 AM

If you guys don't want to be realistic about this teams ceiling for the future, then I can't help you. Some moves are going to need to be made to stay competitive for awhile. I know you guys want to run a dynasty like the Yankees, but it's not realistic.

no we want to use the best reliever in team history as something more than a vehicle for a salary dump because the team signed a league average pitcher to a bad deal

420seriouscat69 · « **Reply #65081 on:** July 28, 2016, 11:25:40 AM »

You have no idea the full extent of the deal yet, so stop being so damn dramatic.

Cartierfor3 · « **Reply #65082 on:** July 28, 2016, 11:26:28 AM »

Quote from: WackyCat08 on July 28, 2016, 11:25:40 AM

You have no idea the full extent of the deal yet, so stop being so damn dramatic.

yeah guys. this is no place for speculation or discussion.

Cartierfor3 · « **Reply #65083 on:** July 28, 2016, 11:27:19 AM »

Quote from: WackyCat08 on July 28, 2016, 11:23:28 AM

If you guys don't want to be realistic about this teams ceiling for the future, then I can't help you. Some moves are going to need to be made to stay competitive for awhile. I know you guys want to run a dynasty like the Yankees, but it's not realistic.

i'd love to hear about these moves

420seriouscat69 · « **Reply #65084 on:** July 28, 2016, 11:28:03 AM »

Calling people idiots, because they don't agree with your opinion, is pretty rough ridin' stupid tho. I like action, this season is over, so this trade stuff is the highlight of the rest of the year to me.

mocat · « **Reply #65085 on:** July 28, 2016, 11:29:21 AM »

as usual wacky, you are the only person calling anybody names

420seriouscat69 · « **Reply #65086 on:** July 28, 2016, 11:30:00 AM »

Quote from: sys on July 28, 2016, 10:37:37 AM

Quote from: ksupamplemousse on July 28, 2016, 10:28:53 AM
Why anyone would be excited by this is beyond me.

wc08 is genuinely stupid. i can't explain chicat.

Sure thing, Mocat.

mocat · « **Reply #65087 on:** July 28, 2016, 11:34:19 AM »

well i mean

mocat · « **Reply #65088 on:** July 28, 2016, 11:36:21 AM »

CF3 if you owned the royals would you get rid of Kennedy and pay another guy with the same skills the same amount of money, only because the other guy had maybe less of a tooth gap? i'd say maybe i would, but the gap is kind of endearing

mocat · « **Reply #65089 on:** July 28, 2016, 11:37:11 AM »

also he should grow his hair out again. he is too clean cut white guy right now

mocat · « **Reply #65090 on:** July 28, 2016, 11:38:49 AM »

which guy gives up more home runs?

A)

or

B)

mocat · « **Reply #65091 on:** July 28, 2016, 11:43:53 AM »

obviously it's A guys, come on

# of home runs given up this year:
1. Ian Kennedy 26

HR% given up this year:
1. Ian Kennedy 5.4%

Cartierfor3 · « **Reply #65092 on:** July 28, 2016, 11:53:26 AM »

Quote from: mocat on July 28, 2016, 11:36:21 AM

CF3 if you owned the royals would you get rid of Kennedy and pay another guy with the same skills the same amount of money, only because the other guy had maybe less of a tooth gap? i'd say maybe i would, but the gap is kind of endearing

First thing I'd do as owner would be ban Nebraska Day at the K and all of the other dumb days that bug me. My tooth gap policy is obviously I'm pro tooth gap

Cartierfor3 · « **Reply #65093 on:** July 28, 2016, 11:54:27 AM »

wetwillie · « **Reply #65094 on:** July 28, 2016, 11:59:07 AM »

Speaking of hypothetical ownership, what kind of a deal would you give hosmer? 7 years 125million?

Cartierfor3 · « **Reply #65095 on:** July 28, 2016, 12:59:51 PM »

Quote from: wetwillie on July 28, 2016, 11:59:07 AM

Speaking of hypothetical ownership, what kind of a deal would you give hosmer? 7 years 125million?

6 years max. money is no object.

sys · « **Reply #65096 on:** July 28, 2016, 01:02:32 PM »

how you give up less home runs is you move the fences back is how you give up less home runs.

Cartierfor3 · « **Reply #65097 on:** July 28, 2016, 01:09:23 PM »

I clearly remember bullpens filled up with Mike Macdougal type players. Jason Grimsley, Albie Lopez, Ambiorix Burgos, and all those losers we watched blow game after game. So, the importance of our pen is not lost on me. Without Wade, I don't think either WS appearance happens. BUT! Without selling Greinke, it doesn't happen either. And when we sold Zack, we sold him for young players with upside. Zack was on a team friendly deal, and we got back players to help us. We didn't use him to unload Jose Guillen's contract. So if we do use Wade as a way to unload Kennedy and not replenish the young talent, we've made a mistake.

But most of you already knew all of that

mocat · « **Reply #65098 on:** July 28, 2016, 01:14:12 PM »

another interesting thing about that 2010 trade was that the royals lost approximately a million games that year and the approximately million seasons before that one, and obviously needed young talent for the future, because in 2011 and 2012 the royals were going to suck with or without grienke.

Cartierfor3 · « **Reply #65099 on:** July 28, 2016, 01:15:06 PM »

that's a great point mocat