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420seriouscat69 · « **Reply #38525 on:** June 25, 2015, 02:10:15 PM »

This guy is one of our top prospects, but he plays SS. I'm not sure Raul can play 2nd, but I'd be willing to experiment with it.

ksupamplemousse · « **Reply #38526 on:** June 25, 2015, 02:15:47 PM »

Quote from: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on June 25, 2015, 09:04:28 AM

Quote from: ksupamplemousse on June 25, 2015, 08:00:19 AM
Esky still shouldn't hit leadoff.

1st place says otherwise

That's a stupid rough ridin' thing to say. Also, would rough ridin' LOVE to add Gomez. Holy crap what a squad we'd have.

sys · « **Reply #38527 on:** June 25, 2015, 02:20:37 PM »

Quote from: WackyCat08 on June 25, 2015, 02:10:15 PM

I'm not sure Raul can play 2nd, but I'd be willing to experiment with it.

pretty sure they're already experimenting with it.

sys · « **Reply #38528 on:** June 25, 2015, 02:22:08 PM »

i'd like someone to tell me why hosmer couldn't play 2nd, though. i'm sure he'd look stupid on double plays or whatever, but someone tell me why he'd be so bad that it wouldn't work at all.

Rage Against the McKee · « **Reply #38529 on:** June 25, 2015, 02:24:06 PM »

Quote from: sys on June 25, 2015, 02:22:08 PM

i'd like someone to tell me why hosmer couldn't play 2nd, though. i'm sure he'd look stupid on double plays or whatever, but someone tell me why he'd be so bad that it wouldn't work at all.

I think Hosmer would be really good in right field, too.

Dr Rick Daris · « **Reply #38530 on:** June 25, 2015, 02:26:04 PM »

Quote from: sys on June 25, 2015, 02:22:08 PM

i'd like someone to tell me why hosmer couldn't play 2nd, though. i'm sure he'd look stupid on double plays or whatever, but someone tell me why he'd be so bad that it wouldn't work at all.

if you can name one other left handed second baseman to ever play at the college level or above then i will answer your question.

steve dave · « **Reply #38531 on:** June 25, 2015, 02:27:17 PM »

Quote from: sys on June 25, 2015, 02:22:08 PM

i'd like someone to tell me why hosmer couldn't play 2nd, though. i'm sure he'd look stupid on double plays or whatever, but someone tell me why he'd be so bad that it wouldn't work at all.

Dr Rick Daris · « **Reply #38532 on:** June 25, 2015, 02:29:48 PM »

Quote from: WackyCat08 on June 25, 2015, 02:10:15 PM

This guy is one of our top prospects, but he plays SS. I'm not sure Raul can play 2nd, but I'd be willing to experiment with it.

of course a ss could play second. he's a freaking ss. 2nd to short is where you would have questions.

steve dave · « **Reply #38533 on:** June 25, 2015, 02:30:09 PM »

TOPICAL!

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The last left-handed thrower to play second base in a major league game was Don Mattingly, who was on the field for one batter when the Yankees and Royals resumed the famed “pine-tar” game in 1983. Bert Campaneris had been the Yankees’ second baseman during the original game on July 24, but he was on the disabled list when the game resumed on August 18. Note that Ron Guidry was the Yankees’ center fielder when the game resumed; Jerry Mumphrey, who was the center fielder when the original game concluded, had been traded in the interim. (It wasn’t Guidry’s first appearance in the outfield; he had played center in the ninth inning of a blowout win on the next-to-last day of the 1979 season.) At any rate neither Mattingly nor Guidry got near the ball as the Royals’ only batter after the game resumed, Hal McRae, struck out.

steve dave · « **Reply #38534 on:** June 25, 2015, 02:33:03 PM »

also check out this picture of mattingly playing third (played 2 games at third in 1986 because they had nobody else who could play it)

sys · « **Reply #38535 on:** June 25, 2015, 02:38:05 PM »

Quote from: Rick RowdyBoyy Daris on June 25, 2015, 02:26:04 PM

if you can name one other left handed second baseman to ever play at the college level or above then i will answer your question.

oh.

sys · « **Reply #38536 on:** June 25, 2015, 02:39:20 PM »

why is handedness so important?

steve dave · « **Reply #38537 on:** June 25, 2015, 02:39:36 PM »

baseball is actually pretty mean to lefties when you think about it. like, you should just train all lefties to pitch the second you figure out they are lefties. or make a clockwise base path all lefties league.

steve dave · « **Reply #38538 on:** June 25, 2015, 02:40:43 PM »

Quote from: sys on June 25, 2015, 02:39:20 PM

why is handedness so important?

a lefty can't catch because throwing to third is awkward. can't play third because charging a bunt and throwing to first is super awkward (see mattingly pic). making the turn on a double play is awkward as well which throws out ss and 2nd. make the base paths clockwise and it becomes a lefties game.

Dr Rick Daris · « **Reply #38539 on:** June 25, 2015, 02:43:40 PM »

Quote from: steve dave on June 25, 2015, 02:39:36 PM

baseball is actually pretty mean to lefties when you think about it. like, you should just train all lefties to pitch the second you figure out they are lefties. or make a clockwise base path all lefties league.

it really is pretty sad because the daris family is a middle infielder family but my son is left handed. half the positions in baseball immediately off the table and hey have fun in the outfield for the next fifty years bud.

sys · « **Reply #38540 on:** June 25, 2015, 02:44:29 PM »

Quote from: steve dave on June 25, 2015, 02:40:43 PM

a lefty can't catch because throwing to third is awkward. can't play third because charging a bunt and throwing to first is super awkward (see mattingly pic). making the turn on a double play is awkward as well which throws out ss and 2nd. make the base paths clockwise and it becomes a lefties game.

does moose throw with his right?

steve dave · « **Reply #38541 on:** June 25, 2015, 02:45:06 PM »

Quote from: sys on June 25, 2015, 02:44:29 PM

Quote from: steve dave on June 25, 2015, 02:40:43 PM
a lefty can't catch because throwing to third is awkward. can't play third because charging a bunt and throwing to first is super awkward (see mattingly pic). making the turn on a double play is awkward as well which throws out ss and 2nd. make the base paths clockwise and it becomes a lefties game.

does moose throw with his right?

yes

Dr Rick Daris · « **Reply #38542 on:** June 25, 2015, 02:45:30 PM »

Quote from: steve dave on June 25, 2015, 02:40:43 PM

Quote from: sys on June 25, 2015, 02:39:20 PM
why is handedness so important?

a lefty can't catch because throwing to third is awkward. can't play third because charging a bunt and throwing to first is super awkward (see mattingly pic). making the turn on a double play is awkward as well which throws out ss and 2nd. make the base paths clockwise and it becomes a lefties game.

catching bad also because most batters are right handers which means you're having to throw over them on throws to second.

Dr Rick Daris · « **Reply #38543 on:** June 25, 2015, 02:46:53 PM »

i really spent an entire year/two years debating on whether or not to let my son throw with his left before he started tball, etc.

sys · « **Reply #38544 on:** June 25, 2015, 02:47:40 PM »

Quote from: steve dave on June 25, 2015, 02:45:06 PM

yes

how long will it take for hosmer and rd's kid to learn to do that?

also i'm not really picturing in my head why being lefty would be so awkward for double plays very well. the royals should play hosmer there so i can see it demonstrated.

8manpick · « **Reply #38545 on:** June 25, 2015, 02:48:58 PM »

Quote from: sys on June 25, 2015, 02:44:29 PM

Quote from: steve dave on June 25, 2015, 02:40:43 PM
a lefty can't catch because throwing to third is awkward. can't play third because charging a bunt and throwing to first is super awkward (see mattingly pic). making the turn on a double play is awkward as well which throws out ss and 2nd. make the base paths clockwise and it becomes a lefties game.

does moose throw with his right?

Sys has a fair amount of good baseball observations and then comes out with this... Mind-boggling

420seriouscat69 · « **Reply #38546 on:** June 25, 2015, 02:51:22 PM »

Yeah, that surprised me too.

sys · « **Reply #38547 on:** June 25, 2015, 02:53:09 PM »

Quote from: 8manpick on June 25, 2015, 02:48:58 PM

Sys has a fair amount of good baseball observations and then comes out with this... Mind-boggling

i'm pretty good at watching and reading about baseball, but i have no idea what it's like to play it. i knew handedness was important for hitting, pitching and for playing first and catcher. i didn't realize it mattered for the other positions, so i never paid attention.

steve dave · « **Reply #38548 on:** June 25, 2015, 02:54:03 PM »

Quote from: sys on June 25, 2015, 02:47:40 PM

also i'm not really picturing in my head why being lefty would be so awkward for double plays very well.

probably easier for a ss coming to second to transition to 1st as a lefty. but them going to first running the other direction would be very lol. you want to throw across your body, not whatever the other way is called. a 2nd baseman coming to second would be spinning to his right and throwing across the base path to go to first. it would would be super awkward. I'm probably not painting a very good picture of what I'm seeing in my head.

420seriouscat69 · « **Reply #38549 on:** June 25, 2015, 02:56:28 PM »

Yeah, it would be by far the hardest thing to do in baseball. A lefty rolling a double play off the bag. I'd love to watch it tho, just not on my team.