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Re: Will Cali actually legalize pot???
« Reply #125 on: February 13, 2014, 02:29:01 PM »
I support full legalization.  :bigtoke:


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Re: Will Cali actually legalize pot???
« Reply #126 on: February 13, 2014, 02:32:55 PM »
the dui test they use is bullshit from my understanding, and can pop you if you've smoked within like a month or something.
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Re: Will Cali actually legalize pot???
« Reply #127 on: February 13, 2014, 02:47:56 PM »
just pull the toilet paper roll/rubber band/dryer sheet out of your briefcase :lol:

poke some holes in the bottom of a plastic bottle, stuff the bottle with dryer sheets, exhale into the mouth of the bottle.

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Re: Will Cali actually legalize pot???
« Reply #128 on: February 13, 2014, 04:34:03 PM »
When I go to CO I just smoke while driving. DGAF.

prolly not a good idea.

What is the method for giving people DUI's for weed in Colorado? Is it just a field test? Some sort of blood/breath test?

Could I just get super baked at my buddy's house in Durango then play bumper cars on the way to taco bell with absolutely no reprecussions(sp)?

they do have what is called a DUID (driving under the influence of drugs). the testing is fraught with difficulties, but involves a blood draw and analysis. largely unproven and attackable from a criminal defense standpoint (usually).

decent article explaining some of the struggles...

http://www.denverpost.com/marijuana/ci_25101187/colorado-marijuana-legalizations-impact-stoned-driving-unknown

that being said, the regulations come from a good place. respect that, even if you don't respect the drafting of the law.

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Re: Will Cali actually legalize pot???
« Reply #129 on: February 13, 2014, 04:39:06 PM »
When I go to CO I just smoke while driving. DGAF.

prolly not a good idea.

What is the method for giving people DUI's for weed in Colorado? Is it just a field test? Some sort of blood/breath test?

Could I just get super baked at my buddy's house in Durango then play bumper cars on the way to taco bell with absolutely no reprecussions(sp)?

they do have what is called a DUID (driving under the influence of drugs). the testing is fraught with difficulties, but involves a blood draw and analysis. largely unproven and attackable from a criminal defense standpoint (usually).

decent article explaining some of the struggles...

http://www.denverpost.com/marijuana/ci_25101187/colorado-marijuana-legalizations-impact-stoned-driving-unknown

that being said, the regulations come from a good place. respect that, even if you don't respect the drafting of the law.

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Re: Will Cali actually legalize pot???
« Reply #130 on: February 16, 2014, 01:28:50 PM »
Yeah. Stoned driving is definitely not harmless and deserves to be punishable by law.
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Re: Will Cali actually legalize pot???
« Reply #131 on: February 20, 2014, 09:26:19 PM »
Couldn't they just make "members only" clubs where they allow you to smoke inside? Isn't that basically what cigar bars do? Pay a fee at the door and become a member go inside and smoke.
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« Reply #132 on: February 20, 2014, 10:56:03 PM »
Hopefully KS will get its head out of its ass someday and do the same. That way TBL can focus on arresting  real criminals.
It's just like gambling; it's only a matter of time before the government gets involved.  Too much tax money they are missing out on.
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Re: Will Cali actually legalize pot???
« Reply #133 on: February 21, 2014, 10:19:53 AM »
Hopefully KS will get its head out of its ass someday and do the same. That way TBL can focus on arresting  real criminals.
It's just like gambling; it's only a matter of time before the government gets involved.  Too much tax money they are missing out on.

KS will probably be the 2nd to last state(behind OK or TX) to legalize it, see liquor laws.

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Re: Will Cali actually legalize pot???
« Reply #134 on: February 21, 2014, 10:27:02 AM »
When I go to CO I just smoke while driving. DGAF.

prolly not a good idea.

What is the method for giving people DUI's for weed in Colorado? Is it just a field test? Some sort of blood/breath test?

Could I just get super baked at my buddy's house in Durango then play bumper cars on the way to taco bell with absolutely no reprecussions(sp)?

they do have what is called a DUID (driving under the influence of drugs).


Do they call it a "Duuuuude"?
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Re: Will Cali actually legalize pot???
« Reply #135 on: February 21, 2014, 01:07:16 PM »
When I go to CO I just smoke while driving. DGAF.

prolly not a good idea.

What is the method for giving people DUI's for weed in Colorado? Is it just a field test? Some sort of blood/breath test?

Could I just get super baked at my buddy's house in Durango then play bumper cars on the way to taco bell with absolutely no reprecussions(sp)?

they do have what is called a DUID (driving under the influence of drugs).


Do they call it a "Duuuuude"?


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Re: Will Cali actually legalize pot???
« Reply #136 on: February 21, 2014, 03:18:21 PM »
Couldn't they just make "members only" clubs where they allow you to smoke inside? Isn't that basically what cigar bars do? Pay a fee at the door and become a member go inside and smoke.

i'm pretty sure that these are specifically prohibited, but i'm not sure. will check.

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Re: Will Cali actually legalize pot???
« Reply #137 on: February 21, 2014, 03:24:21 PM »
If I was a tourist, I'd just buy a box of brownies or something I didn't need to smoke.

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Re: Will Cali actually legalize pot???
« Reply #138 on: February 21, 2014, 03:28:23 PM »
If I was a tourist, I'd just buy a box of brownies or something I didn't need to smoke.

when i went, they didn't allow out of state people to buy edibles.  i don't know if that was a store rule or a state one.
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« Reply #139 on: February 21, 2014, 03:37:12 PM »
If I was a tourist, I'd just buy a box of brownies or something I didn't need to smoke.

when i went, they didn't allow out of state people to buy edibles.  i don't know if that was a store rule or a state one.

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Re: Will Cali actually legalize pot???
« Reply #140 on: February 21, 2014, 03:48:11 PM »
If I was a tourist, I'd just buy a box of brownies or something I didn't need to smoke.

when i went, they didn't allow out of state people to buy edibles.  i don't know if that was a store rule or a state one.

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Re: Will Cali actually legalize pot???
« Reply #141 on: February 23, 2014, 02:53:31 PM »
If I was a tourist, I'd just buy a box of brownies or something I didn't need to smoke.

when i went, they didn't allow out of state people to buy edibles.  i don't know if that was a store rule or a state one.

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« Reply #142 on: February 23, 2014, 03:41:38 PM »
If I was a tourist, I'd just buy a box of brownies or something I didn't need to smoke.

when i went, they didn't allow out of state people to buy edibles.  i don't know if that was a store rule or a state one.

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can confirm this is not a state rule.

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Re: Will Cali actually legalize pot???
« Reply #143 on: February 23, 2014, 08:48:47 PM »
Hopefully KS will get its head out of its ass someday and do the same. That way TBL can focus on arresting  real criminals.
It's just like gambling; it's only a matter of time before the government gets involved.  Too much tax money they are missing out on.

KS will probably be the 2nd to last state(behind OK or TX) to legalize it, see liquor laws.
While KS still has fairly conservative liquor laws, there are several states with more conservative laws. I'm currently in Indiana and couldn't buy alcohol today because it's a Sunday. I know Pennsylvania has some pretty strange laws. And then there's the south...

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« Reply #144 on: February 23, 2014, 10:07:57 PM »
Hopefully KS will get its head out of its ass someday and do the same. That way TBL can focus on arresting  real criminals.
It's just like gambling; it's only a matter of time before the government gets involved.  Too much tax money they are missing out on.

KS will probably be the 2nd to last state(behind OK or TX) to legalize it, see liquor laws.
While KS still has fairly conservative liquor laws, there are several states with more conservative laws. I'm currently in Indiana and couldn't buy alcohol today because it's a Sunday. I know Pennsylvania has some pretty strange laws. And then there's the south...

It's not uncommon in the northeast for beer to be exclusively sold in one store and liquor to be sold exclusively in another.

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« Reply #145 on: February 23, 2014, 11:08:57 PM »
Hopefully KS will get its head out of its ass someday and do the same. That way TBL can focus on arresting  real criminals.
It's just like gambling; it's only a matter of time before the government gets involved.  Too much tax money they are missing out on.

KS will probably be the 2nd to last state(behind OK or TX) to legalize it, see liquor laws.
While KS still has fairly conservative liquor laws, there are several states with more conservative laws. I'm currently in Indiana and couldn't buy alcohol today because it's a Sunday. I know Pennsylvania has some pretty strange laws. And then there's the south...

It's not uncommon in the northeast for beer to be exclusively sold in one store and liquor to be sold exclusively in another.
Yes. Very weird. In Pennsylvania all wine and spirit stores are state owned. If you want beer you have to go to a beer distributor. Even more odd (but kind of awesome) is that bars and restaurants can sell you six and twelve packs but the beer stores can only sell cases and kegs.

Back to the original topic... I was talking to a law enforcement guy at a bar and he was telling me that legalization in KS could come sooner than you might think, especially if Missouri legalizes it. He said this is largely because so much of their resources are being used to fight the weed coming in from Colorado (instead of meth/coke/heroin) that it is becoming an increasingly expensive and seemingly impossible fight to win.

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Re: Will Cali actually legalize pot???
« Reply #146 on: February 23, 2014, 11:59:57 PM »
Hopefully KS will get its head out of its ass someday and do the same. That way TBL can focus on arresting  real criminals.
It's just like gambling; it's only a matter of time before the government gets involved.  Too much tax money they are missing out on.

KS will probably be the 2nd to last state(behind OK or TX) to legalize it, see liquor laws.
While KS still has fairly conservative liquor laws, there are several states with more conservative laws. I'm currently in Indiana and couldn't buy alcohol today because it's a Sunday. I know Pennsylvania has some pretty strange laws. And then there's the south...

It's not uncommon in the northeast for beer to be exclusively sold in one store and liquor to be sold exclusively in another.
Yes. Very weird. In Pennsylvania all wine and spirit stores are state owned. If you want beer you have to go to a beer distributor. Even more odd (but kind of awesome) is that bars and restaurants can sell you six and twelve packs but the beer stores can only sell cases and kegs.

Back to the original topic... I was talking to a law enforcement guy at a bar and he was telling me that legalization in KS could come sooner than you might think, especially if Missouri legalizes it. He said this is largely because so much of their resources are being used to fight the weed coming in from Colorado (instead of meth/coke/heroin) that it is becoming an increasingly expensive and seemingly impossible fight to win.

yeah, i don't buy the "kansas will be the second to last state" argument.  "sin" laws in kansas are pretty average, and personal freedom (unless you're gay, but that's a different issue) is something that really resonates with the most voters.  the last 10=20 years or so, changes have been happening to blue laws and casinos to drive money away from MO and back to kansas, and most everyone is happy with the results.

if MO legalizes it, then there is just no way that KS won't succumb to the financial pressure.  it's not going to be next year, but i believe KS will be one of the first 25.
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Re: Will Cali actually legalize pot???
« Reply #147 on: February 24, 2014, 08:44:40 AM »
If they can't point to the bible for opposition to weed, it just might pass sooner than later.

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« Reply #148 on: February 24, 2014, 09:00:46 AM »
Texas will be the last to legalize weed.  We still don't have casinos. And last year they momentarily voted out the lottery until they realized they would need to raise taxes to cover the $2.2B that would be lost by lottery revenue.

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« Reply #149 on: February 24, 2014, 02:53:26 PM »
Kansas' new casino law is that if you win $20,000 over the course of the year while losing $50,000 then you have to claim that you gained $20,000 when you report your taxes. Missouri does not have that law. So I don't get the argument that we're trying to drive Missourians here because we have less harsh sin taxes.