Author Topic: Fire LHC Bill Snyder Master Thread (Read 81971 times)

theymightbegiants · « **Reply #400 on:** November 20, 2010, 05:23:21 PM »

Snyder not the problem, just a great variable to the solution (but definitely not the solution). He doesn't want to still be coaching. Shell out the money for an elite assistant coach of Snyder's choosing because he knows what it takes to succeed in Kansas, make promise to assistant that he will be head coach in 3 to 4 years to keep him here. Let Snyder take us to two or three more bowl games than hand over the program once his assistant learns how snyder does things. Problem is recruiting not coaches and Snyder knows how to get some good players here, manhattan regional airport expanding is going to be huge towards our success in the future.

catzacker · « **Reply #401 on:** November 20, 2010, 05:28:33 PM »

Quote from: michigancat on November 20, 2010, 05:07:10 PM

Quote from: jtksu on November 20, 2010, 05:02:04 PM
I just can't think of anyone we are going to be able to hire that is better than Snyder. I'd rather be where we're at right now than where we were 3 yrs ago and I am terrified we're going to end up with some douchebag like Prince again.

I can't think of anyone that would be any worse.

this. lots of average coaches out there that could the same job.

Cire · « **Reply #402 on:** November 20, 2010, 05:29:19 PM »

All I want is for LHC Bill Snyder to recruit a god damned good college quarterback.

steve dave · « **Reply #403 on:** November 20, 2010, 05:32:23 PM »

Quote from: theymightbegiants on November 20, 2010, 05:23:21 PM

Snyder not the problem, just a great variable to the solution (but definitely not the solution). He doesn't want to still be coaching. Shell out the money for an elite assistant coach of Snyder's choosing because he knows what it takes to succeed in Kansas, make promise to assistant that he will be head coach in 3 to 4 years to keep him here. Let Snyder take us to two or three more bowl games than hand over the program once his assistant learns how snyder does things. Problem is recruiting not coaches and Snyder knows how to get some good players here, manhattan regional airport expanding is going to be huge towards our success in the future.

Bill is the absolute last person I want having a say in who we hire next. Luckily, Currie agrees with me.

O-town Kat · « **Reply #404 on:** November 20, 2010, 05:34:00 PM »

I effing hate the HCIW concept

Trim · « **Reply #405 on:** November 20, 2010, 05:36:44 PM »

Change something. It's to the point where the only reason I follow KSU football at all is because I like goEMAW.com and KSU football is sometimes talked about there.

OK_Cat · « **Reply #406 on:** November 20, 2010, 05:40:52 PM »

I'm hoping for a gas leak in the Snyder household on Thanksgiving. When gramps leans over and lets one slip, the whole place goes boom....Gramps, The Old Lady, Shawn, and the horse-faced one.

Cartierfor3 · « **Reply #407 on:** November 20, 2010, 05:44:47 PM »

It sucks right now.

Snyder coached some great teams and brought us some great times. Remember 2002 against USC? How about 99 at Texas? Good times. When he left, it felt like the right time. His legacy was secure. When he came back I knew this point would come.

For whatever reason, he's not doing the job. We're improving from a 5-7 team with a horrible defense to a 7-5 team with a horrible defense in the 2 years he's been back. It's been painful. The team has gone backwards as the year went on. CCQ has improved slightly, we run the read option pretty good with CK, but other than that this team looks like they haven't been coached. Watching wide open recievers all year isn't a talent thing, its a coaching thing. That is what saddens me most.

I hate to admit it, but if we're ever going to compete again for a conference championship, it needs to be under new leadership. I'd love for him to announce that the bowl game will be his last game and to let someone else come in here.

As to who it will be? Doesn't matter. Yeah, Prince might happen again, but for us that's the risk we have to take. We have to get someone young and energized. Maybe they'll be in over their heads, maybe it will be a homerun. Just don't give us some old retread like Jim Levitt.

catzacker · « **Reply #408 on:** November 20, 2010, 05:51:42 PM »

Quote from: OK_Cat on November 20, 2010, 05:40:52 PM

I'm hoping for a gas leak in the Snyder household on Thanksgiving. When gramps leans over and lets one slip, the whole place goes boom....Gramps, The Old Lady, Shawn, and the horse-faced one.

if Leavitt and Stanbot could be visiting the Snyder household on that day too...well...I wouldn't need anything for Christmas.

hemmy · « **Reply #409 on:** November 20, 2010, 05:55:30 PM »

Quote from: mcmwcat on November 20, 2010, 04:50:18 PM

Quote from: jtksu on November 20, 2010, 04:45:45 PM
You may remember winning the conference in 2003. We just have to bring in more talented players and I don't think this staff is doing enough of that. We have about 10 nice recruits committed so far but we need like 20/yr to dig out of this talent deficit.

2003 was v nice. but Snyder coached us out of others in 1998 and 2002. both years ksu should have been in national championship game. he couldn't even win the division in 2002 with an amazing amount of talent. got clowned by Mack Brown in Manhattan that year.

We would not have went over Ohio State or Miami in 2002

jtksu · « **Reply #410 on:** November 20, 2010, 05:56:17 PM »

Leavitt is likely better than anyone we will end up with. We don'y get Huggs if he wasn't fired. And even then, he was only here for a year before he bent us over. We ended up with a guy who had never been a HC above the high school level. Yeah, we got crazy lucky with Frank but I kinda doubt we would get that lucky again. We're basically looking at dudes like Leavitt or Leach (though I doubt Leach would take this job) or some young, unproven coordinator. We may get lucky and hire some young hotshot that recruits like a mother and surrounds himself with a talented staff. Or we may end up with Prince. Or worse, Gill. I would say we should fire Cosh now but leave Snyder in until a nice hire is made available. Keep Snyder around for now because he's not that bad but start a secret coach search. If we get a guy we like, let Snyder know that it's time for him to step down. One last game for everyone to sucks his dick one last time and then in with whatever the new regime is. I don't want to cut Snyder loose and scramble to find his replacement. We would totally lose any decent recruits we have and that would set us back even further. You don't go car shopping when your car blows up, you go when you can take your time and find the exact right car for you.

Trim · « **Reply #411 on:** November 20, 2010, 05:58:58 PM »

We could just fire OB and competently interview coaching candidates and hire the best one. Really shouldn't be too difficult to avoid another RP.

CHONGS · « **Reply #412 on:** November 20, 2010, 05:59:53 PM »

If a HC with a losing record in the Big East is the best we can get then this season is acceptable.

mcmwcat · « **Reply #413 on:** November 20, 2010, 06:02:08 PM »

Quote from: jtksu on November 20, 2010, 04:55:54 PM

Mcmwcat brought up '98, I didn't.

in response to you bringing up 2003

jtksu · « **Reply #414 on:** November 20, 2010, 06:03:13 PM »

Dude, USF didn't even play football when he got there. Taking them from no program to a #2 ranking is damn impressive. If he can hire a capable OC, we could be very good, soon.

mcmwcat · « **Reply #415 on:** November 20, 2010, 06:04:04 PM »

Quote from: jtksu on November 20, 2010, 05:02:04 PM

I just can't think of anyone we are going to be able to hire that is better than Snyder.

confession time: i never thought we could get a decent hoops coach here to rationalize keeping Wooly around.

OK_Cat · « **Reply #416 on:** November 20, 2010, 06:05:22 PM »

most of our tard fanbase (like jtksu) have battered woman syndrome. "But but but....I can't get anyone better than him! So what if he punches me in the back of the head if the beans aren't hot enough!"

mcmwcat · « **Reply #417 on:** November 20, 2010, 06:05:48 PM »

Quote from: _33 on November 20, 2010, 05:15:02 PM

Quote from: catzacker on November 20, 2010, 04:47:59 PM
Quote from: jtksu on November 20, 2010, 04:20:15 PM
Yeah, because HOF coaches are beating down Curries door.

because the HOF can wait.

Should now change to "because the HOF doesn't want him anymore"

lol

CHONGS · « **Reply #418 on:** November 20, 2010, 06:07:18 PM »

Quote from: jtksu on November 20, 2010, 06:03:13 PM

Dude, USF didn't even play football when he got there. Taking them from no program to a #2 ranking is damn impressive. If he can hire a capable OC, we could be very good, soon.

What month was that #2 ranking? Where did they end up at the end of the year?

Who did they beat to deserve that ranking? Surely they wouldn't have lost their next THREE games! RIGHT?

catzacker · « **Reply #419 on:** November 20, 2010, 06:08:19 PM »

just look at him....

jtksu · « **Reply #420 on:** November 20, 2010, 06:10:44 PM »

Feel free to list the possible replacements. And only list the realistic ones, you rough ridin' retards.

jtksu · « **Reply #421 on:** November 20, 2010, 06:13:03 PM »

Wooly didn't do 1/10 the job Snyder has. Replacing a third tier coach is nowhere near the same as replacing a HOF coach. And lol that okcat equates a coaching search with wife beating. Those GC boys always have wifebeating in mind.

catzacker · « **Reply #422 on:** November 20, 2010, 06:16:49 PM »

is Bill in the HOF? bill's second tenure can be compared to wooly's entire tenure. WE AREN'T AS EMBARASSING AS WE ONCE WERE!!

OK_Cat · « **Reply #423 on:** November 20, 2010, 06:20:57 PM »

I love old Bill just like the next guy, but he's a "HOF Coach" who's won 1 conference championship. Let's not get carried away.

ChiComCat · « **Reply #424 on:** November 20, 2010, 06:25:23 PM »

No way we go for Leavitt. Currie will cut ties to the old regime to avoid this crap in the future. That is unless we get a home-run hire from the old regime (BV).